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(Telegraph)   Ryanair finds themselves in a sticky wicket after paying too much for Lingus   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 23
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2009-06-03 03:21:32 AM
The best thing about Ryanair is it inspired me to get a better job so I can afford to not fly on Ryanair.

They're not even that much cheaper, once you add up all the "options" which will now include use of the *single* on-board toilet.
 
2009-06-03 07:07:54 AM
Ryanair found that the worse they made their customer experience, the more people flew with them.

They took that as causation, so turned it into a business strategy.

/ Please go bust. Pretty please.
 
2009-06-03 07:18:11 AM
Sound like they are earning their red wings.
 
2009-06-03 07:29:26 AM
RyanAir farking sucks. I do absolutely everything to avoid using them, but they force competitors out of routes, jack up the price, and leave me with no choice but to go on their shiatty planes.

God damn I hate RyanAir. Please go bust.

EasyJet are cheaper and better.
 
2009-06-03 08:12:45 AM
Cunning.
 
2009-06-03 09:11:19 AM
I never had any trouble with Ryan air the handful of times I've flown with them. When I pay 20 Euro for a 75-minute flight, I don't expect much. I'm used to flying Air Canada, so any kind of service surprises me greatly.

That said, I preferred to fly Easy Jet while I was in Holland, if only because they had Amsterdam as a location, while Ryan air had Eindhoven. Slightly less time to Amsterdam, and it's Amsterdam. Had little to do with how I found the service by comparison though.
 
2009-06-03 09:11:29 AM
ParadigmLeftShift: RyanAir farking sucks. God damn I hate RyanAir. Please go bust.

This. I made the mistake of flying RyanAir from London to Hamburg last year. Never again.
 
2009-06-03 09:24:29 AM
Doctor Jan Itor: Cunning.

Lingus...
 
2009-06-03 09:26:05 AM
CruiserTwelve: ParadigmLeftShift: RyanAir farking sucks. God damn I hate RyanAir. Please go bust.

This. I made the mistake of flying RyanAir from London to Hamburg last year. Never again.


Both of these!

fark Ryanair!! My 10 Euro flight from Dublin to Manchester ended up costing me 50 Euros, why??? Because I DIDN'T PRINT OUT THE BOARDING PASS!! Seriously, what the fark you asshats!!

Though, I do understand that's how they make their money, it's still really farked up.
 
2009-06-03 09:33:14 AM
Ryanair finds themselves in a sticky wicket after [mumble] too much [mumble] Lingus

Don't they make an ointment for that?
 
2009-06-03 09:36:22 AM
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2009-06-03 10:38:00 AM
Arent these the aceholes who allow talking on cell phones during flights?
 
2009-06-03 11:14:31 AM
You can get some really cheap flights with Ryan Air. I've snagged a few 1 Euro flights with no taxes.

What I really dislike is that they charge an additional 5euros per flight because I'm not an EU member, and they also charge 5 euros, per flight, for using a credit card to purchase the ticket. This practice is technically against Visa and MC merchant rules, but yet they continue to do this..

/No merchant is allowed to impose minimums or fees for using a credit card. Against Visa/MC policy. 1800 VISA 911 if this happens to you.
 
2009-06-03 11:37:11 AM
krusader3z: /No merchant is allowed to impose minimums or fees for using a credit card. Against Visa/MC policy. 1800 VISA 911 if this happens to you.

Legal in the UK, though not common. Call the US complaints line if you like.

Also done by that other bastion of customer service, Ikea.
 
2009-06-03 11:39:01 AM
That's what she said!
 
zz9
2009-06-03 11:56:57 AM
krusader3z: This practice is technically against Visa and MC merchant rules, but yet they continue to do this..

/No merchant is allowed to impose minimums or fees for using a credit card. Against Visa/MC policy. 1800 VISA 911 if this happens to you.


Not in the UK, and I assume, the EU.

Merchants have to display notices stating their policy of charging more for CC purchases, but they are allowed to do it.
 
2009-06-03 12:06:01 PM
but they've got that one flight attendant that does porn...
 
2009-06-03 12:10:12 PM
I don't know why everyone is so down on Ryan Air. I use them regularly and have never had any problems.
 
2009-06-03 12:46:01 PM
Purple_Jack: I don't know why everyone is so down on Ryan Air. I use them regularly and have never had any problems.

If you know their system (which only takes 2 or 3 flights), yeah it's great, but when you learn the hard way, man, you pay hard.

A friend of mine used RyanAir, and didn't know the weight limit was 15kg, and thought it was the standard 20kg...well it's 15 Euros for every kg over the limit, so he had to pay an extra 75 Euros for that.
 
zz9
2009-06-03 01:00:53 PM
I've flown Ryanair a few times and never had a problem.

You have to know the rules otherwise you will get hit by charges.
But every plane I've flown on has been brand new, they must have one of the newest fleets around, and has always been clean.

And I love flying from their small airports. The last one I flew from the walk from the drop off point in front of the terminal to the steps to the plane was about fifty yards. That's check in, security, lounge, across the tarmac...
At Heathrow the queue at check in is more than that!
 
2009-06-03 02:41:24 PM
You gets what you pays for. Never had a problem with them as a) I read and re-read the smallprint and b)my expectations were not terribly high.

but flying from Prestwick to Shannon for a few bucks is hard to argue with.
 
2009-06-03 02:44:55 PM
Like Ryanair is that different from where the US carriers are headed. Ryanair just got there first. Having said that: Easyjet, Helvetic FTW.

/europes got a lot of discount carriers. why doesn't north america?
 
2009-06-03 02:56:29 PM
trapped-in-CH: Like Ryanair is that different from where the US carriers are headed. Ryanair just got there first. Having said that: Easyjet, Helvetic FTW.

/europes got a lot of discount carriers. why doesn't north america?


Smaller distances. They can spread the fixed costs of operating the aircraft (pilots being only able to work for 8 hours at a time, for example) over more flights.

Also, I suspect that since European cities are closer to each other, there are more alternative jet capable airports one can use to go somewhere (for example, flying a discount airline to "Copenhagen" often lands you across the Oresund in Sweden). This makes it harder for legacy carriers to monopolize cities, like NW does to Minneapolis or USAir does to Pittsburgh.

There might be some regulatory arcana that I'm missing as well.
 
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