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2009-06-02 05:44:36 PM
The YouTube link in TFA doesn't appear to be working.
 
2009-06-02 05:46:26 PM
m1ke: The YouTube link in TFA doesn't appear to be working.

Prett sure thats a screen cap of a youtube video
 
2009-06-02 05:53:33 PM
chemical_angel: m1ke: The YouTube link in TFA doesn't appear to be working.

Prett sure thats a screen cap photoshop of a youtube video
 
2009-06-02 06:00:59 PM
i108.photobucket.com

/hot like I assume a tractor beam would be.
 
2009-06-02 07:47:26 PM
Oh, what a gullible breed..
 
2009-06-02 07:57:24 PM
i say NASA is the streetlight. UFO's are real.
 
2009-06-02 08:01:11 PM
What a load of garbage. Those 2 astronauts should be ashamed of themselves.

Here's some NASA astronauts who still have a soul, and what they're on record saying.

And here is the recent Edgar Mitchell admission that we've been visited by alien life, and NASA has been hiding it. He's since gone on to say quite a bit more.

Anyone who still falls for shiat articles like this, after all that, should be deemed mentally disabled.
 
2009-06-02 08:12:02 PM
J. Frank Parnell: Edgar Mitchell

Nuff said. That guy was a loon when he went to the moon, and he's only gotten worse.
 
2009-06-02 08:13:27 PM
J. Frank Parnell: What a load of garbage. Those 2 astronauts should be ashamed of themselves.

Here's some NASA astronauts who still have a soul, and what they're on record saying.

And here is the recent Edgar Mitchell admission that we've been visited by alien life, and NASA has been hiding it. He's since gone on to say quite a bit more.

Anyone who still falls for shiat articles like this, after all that, should be deemed mentally disabled.


From your link:
According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong, the Aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon. According to un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard. According to a former NASA employee Otto Binder, unnamed radio hams with their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets picked up the following exchange:

NASA: Whats there?
Mission Control calling Apollo 11...

Apollo11: These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous!
OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it!
I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there,
Lined up on the far side of the crater edge!
They're on the Moon watching us!



A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.

Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known
there was a possibility, the fact is, we were
warned off! (by the Aliens). There was never any
question then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?

Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their
ships were far superior to ours both in size and
technology - Boy, were they big! and menacing!
No, there is no question of a space station.

Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and
couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a
quick scoop and back again.


Yeah, that seems totally legit.
 
2009-06-02 08:19:59 PM
Yeah, the government says no UFO's. Sure. Do a google earth search on area 51 sometime. They sure do have a lot of strange drawings in the desert over there. It looks like a modern day Nazca. WTF is up with that? Or is that just normal for the government to make what looks like crop circle crap in the middle of nowhere? The pyramid they drew looks interesting too.
 
2009-06-02 08:24:12 PM
attackingpencil: Yeah, that seems totally legit.

Read and listen to everything there. People like Edgar Mitchel have come out and said in no uncertain terms that not only are UFOs and aliens real, but they've been visiting us and NASA is lying to everyone. What else do you need?
 
2009-06-02 08:26:03 PM
J. Frank Parnell: attackingpencil: Yeah, that seems totally legit.

Read and listen to everything there. People like Edgar Mitchel have come out and said in no uncertain terms that not only are UFOs and aliens real, but they've been visiting us and NASA is lying to everyone. What else do you need?


Mainly, people NOT like Edgar Mitchel to say it.
 
2009-06-02 08:26:37 PM
IF there is a race of people out "there" some place (and I am not saying that they are out "there"), it only stands to reason that they are much more highly advanced than we are because the trip they made to get here is beyond our ability.

Why would a race of people so far beyond our intelligence want to visit us? Are they slumming? Don't tell me they come here to experiment on us because I seriously doubt they would learn anything that they don't already know.

At best, the only segment of an advanced race that would visit here is the equivalent to our smart-assed teenagers. They buzz a few houses just to scare the "critters" inside.

It's intergalactic cow-tipping.
 
2009-06-02 08:28:31 PM
J. Frank Parnell: What else do you need?

Evidence.
 
2009-06-02 08:33:51 PM
muck4doo: "Yeah, the government says no UFO's. Sure. Do a google earth search on area 51 sometime. They sure do have a lot of strange drawings in the desert over there. It looks like a modern day Nazca. WTF is up with that? Or is that just normal for the government to make what looks like crop circle crap in the middle of nowhere? The pyramid they drew looks interesting too."

Creationist: check.
UFO believer: check.

Where do you stand on werewolves, that's what I'd like to know.
 
2009-06-02 08:38:20 PM
FTA:

Yet not a single raised voice or mention of ETs or UFOs can be heard on the audio of this recording

Yea that's sound reasoning. I'm sure astronauts don't have a non-public channel to communicate with mission control.
 
2009-06-02 08:46:24 PM
You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.
 
2009-06-02 08:48:31 PM
J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

K. Got any evidence?
 
2009-06-02 08:48:50 PM
J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

There might be a good reason why you are the only one taking this stance. It's crazy and, by association, so are you.
 
Al!
2009-06-02 08:49:19 PM
J. Frank Parnell: Anyone who still falls for shiat articles like this, after all that, should be deemed mentally disabled.


"Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and
couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a
quick scoop and back again.
"

A "quick scoop and back again"? Apollo 12 was on the lunar surface for over 31 hours. Apollo 14 was on the lunar surface for over 34 hours. Apollo 15 was on the lunar surface for over 66 hours. Apollo 16 was on the lunar surface for over 71 hours. Apollo 17 was on the lunar surface for over 74 hours. That's 276 hours. 11 1/2 days spent on the surface of the moon after we were warned not to come back.

Apollo 11 was on the surface for the least amount of time, at 21 hours 31 minutes.

So let me get this right. Neil Armstrong said that there were most certainly aliens living on the moon and they told us to leave and never come back. We came back 5 more times, each time for longer and longer, but Neil insists that we were only there for a brief amount of time and we didn't cancel the program because it would have caused a panic. Neil and Buzz spent a grand total of 2 hours and 36 minutes outside of the lander, covering a couple thousand feet. Eugene Cernan and "Jack" Schmitt spent a total of 22 hours and 3 minutes outside the lander, covering over 21 miles.

I must be mentally disabled. Or you. I think I meant you.
 
2009-06-02 08:54:02 PM
Al!: I must be mentally disabled. Or you. I think I meant you.

Shh, stop attacking him!
 
2009-06-02 09:01:35 PM
ninjakirby: J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

K. Got any evidence?


In the other thread I got him to admit that the Armstrong one is fake. He ran away.
 
Al!
2009-06-02 09:02:36 PM
ninjakirby: Al!: I must be mentally disabled. Or you. I think I meant you.

Shh, stop attacking him!


I will as soon as he stops attacking the thousands of people that work in the space industry. Who am I to believe? People I have met and I can certify at least seem sane, or some guy going by the name of a small part character in a semi-obscure 1980's cult movie?
 
2009-06-02 09:17:29 PM
J. Frank Parnell: People like Edgar Mitchel have come out and said in no uncertain terms that not only are UFOs and aliens real, but they've been visiting us and NASA is lying to everyone.

He also says that he can read minds and that Atlantis was real, you can heal disease by having other people think happy thoughts at you and so on; it dilutes the message a bit IMHO.
 
2009-06-02 09:34:37 PM
erewhon: J. Frank Parnell: People like Edgar Mitchel have come out and said in no uncertain terms that not only are UFOs and aliens real, but they've been visiting us and NASA is lying to everyone.

He also says that he can read minds and that Atlantis was real, you can heal disease by having other people think happy thoughts at you and so on; it dilutes the message a bit IMHO.


Yea but you have to think, the guy went to the goddamn moon. I'm more inclined to believe what he says he saw than what some guy behind a desk here on earth says he saw.

The remote healing quackery is probably just the ramblings of an old man, and something he espoused in old age from a quick glance at some bio information. But think about how much screening they did to find astronauts back then, and still do today. I'm sure there's dozens of psych evaluations, physical evaluations, disease screenings, intelligence tests, etc. etc.

Some people might make the argument of "we just happened to shoot a quack into space", but I think it'd be particularly difficult for one to slip through the cracks with such an intensive screening process.

Not saying I believe everything he says, but I find it highly unlikely that we sent someone THAT mentally unstable to the moon. Or at least he was perfectly sane then, which lends some credibility to the UFO claims, but none to his remote healing garbage.
 
2009-06-02 09:40:20 PM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: The remote healing quackery is probably just the ramblings of an old man, and something he espoused in old age from a quick glance at some bio information.

The problem is - he started IONS two years after Apollo 14. This isn't recent with him. He was into it at that time. During the Apollo 14 mission, he was running ESP tests.

Carpenter was about as bad.
 
2009-06-02 09:41:39 PM
J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

I don't know if there is an alien moon base on the moon. I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.
 
Al!
2009-06-02 09:49:10 PM
badhatharry: J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

I don't know if there is an alien moon base on the moon. I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.


UFO does not mean Alien Space Craft. It means Unidentified Flying Object. Seeing a UFO does not mean seeing an alien craft. I have seen a UFO, several actually, and they all turned out to be normal objects once they were identified.
 
2009-06-02 09:50:24 PM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude:

Some people might make the argument of "we just happened to shoot a quack into space", but I think it'd be particularly difficult for one to slip through the cracks with such an intensive screening process.

Mission Specialist Capt. Lisa Marie Nowak disagrees.

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2009-06-02 09:56:09 PM
maxheck: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude:

Some people might make the argument of "we just happened to shoot a quack into space", but I think it'd be particularly difficult for one to slip through the cracks with such an intensive screening process.

Mission Specialist Capt. Lisa Marie Nowak disagrees.


I can see the stress of being in space and some love triangle driving someone nuts.

But as far as someone being full on crazy and being given control of millions of dollars of equipment shot at the moon....that seems unlikely.

And with regards to the ESP crap, the U.S. Government was spending millions doing tests of their own back in the 60's as well. Feeding people acid and having them go out on patrol and all that crazy shiat.
 
2009-06-02 10:02:27 PM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Some people might make the argument of "we just happened to shoot a quack into space", but I think it'd be particularly difficult for one to slip through the cracks with such an intensive screening process.

Not saying I believe everything he says, but I find it highly unlikely that we sent someone THAT mentally unstable to the moon.


After careful consideration of this part while soldering in a few parts here, I'm going to have to pop your bubble on psych evals and screenings, at least as far as military personnel go, contractors too for that matter.

I had many a friend in the Army in my MOS, which required a comparative lot of psych evals, who were into the fringier bits of rationality much like Dr Mitchell here. Being a bit oddball didn't seem to matter much to the psych tests. There's things they're screening out, but apparently a firm belief in astrology, tarot and Odin worship are not among them. I'm pretty sure the guy that said he was a Norse pagan really was, which if you ever see me going off into a sarcastic streak featuring Valhalla and worship of Heimdall as the patron Æsir of SIGINT, I'm channeling that guy.

And then there's Uncle Al. You don't want to know. Suffice it to say, even a General can spend your tax money on woo-woo crap you wouldn't believe and likely haven't heard about.
 
2009-06-02 10:08:42 PM
Al!: badhatharry: J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

I don't know if there is an alien moon base on the moon. I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.

UFO does not mean Alien Space Craft. It means Unidentified Flying Object. Seeing a UFO does not mean seeing an alien craft. I have seen a UFO, several actually, and they all turned out to be normal objects once they were identified.


There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world. These were not distant lights in the sky. These people are police officers, air traffic controllers, and engineers. Not just yokels or people on drugs. Their accounts are always dismissed as "unidentified" flying objects, mass hysteria, or hallucinations.
 
2009-06-02 10:12:40 PM
That a civilization in our galaxy has developed the ability to travel vast distances before we have that ability does not seem strange at all. The idea that humans will be the first to travel at the speed of light does seem crazy.
 
2009-06-02 10:13:50 PM
badhatharry: Al!: badhatharry: J. Frank Parnell: You people are farked. And i hate how i'm always swarmed by retards in threads like this when i know i'm not the only one who takes this stance here.

I don't know if there is an alien moon base on the moon. I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.

UFO does not mean Alien Space Craft. It means Unidentified Flying Object. Seeing a UFO does not mean seeing an alien craft. I have seen a UFO, several actually, and they all turned out to be normal objects once they were identified.

There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world. These were not distant lights in the sky. These people are police officers, air traffic controllers, and engineers. Not just yokels or people on drugs. Their accounts are always dismissed as "unidentified" flying objects, mass hysteria, or hallucinations.


What's the proof that they were clearly spacecraft?
 
2009-06-02 10:17:14 PM
badhatharry: There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world.

See, this is where we would diverge. I might agree that people see things they cannot explain. I would stop at that point and say "Wow, that was something unexplainable given the conditions of the observation", note the details for later re-examination and stop. You jump to the conclusion that it was a "clearly a spacecraft not of this world".

I would pretty much have to have the thing land in front of me and disgorge 20 dancing tentacle women from Meepzorg to reach that conclusion - there's just so many other less unlikely conclusions to reach on the way there.

Hell, I've seen things like what I think you're describing, and was grilled for a couple of miserable days once over one of them. I just don't leap to the chance to attribute it to Reticulans.

It does make for a really spooky story to tell at night to your buddies when you're bored, and I kept my little charges awake at NTC once with the Tale of the Private Who Fell Asleep On Duty And Got Mutilated By Aliens. Now, THAT story has made the rounds for years, and it's way better than the hookman on lover's lane story. There's people that swear it's true. I'm surprised I've never heard it on Fark OR ATS.
 
2009-06-02 10:20:21 PM
badhatharry: There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world.

I will say that a crusty airman once said - "Most UFOs that aren't weather phenomena have the arcane runes 'No Step' on the side", not long before we were buzzed by something that would have made you leap to a conclusion.
 
Al!
2009-06-02 10:29:31 PM
badhatharry: There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world.

I will echo several people when I ask you to offer proof. I won't accept anecdotal evidence. I have seen UFOs and I have witnessed "paranormal" phenomenon. I can tell you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I do not believe that aliens have visited this planet any more than I believe in ghosts. I do not believe in ghosts.
 
2009-06-02 10:50:39 PM
Al!: badhatharry: There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world.

I will echo several people when I ask you to offer proof. I won't accept anecdotal evidence. I have seen UFOs and I have witnessed "paranormal" phenomenon. I can tell you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I do not believe that aliens have visited this planet any more than I believe in ghosts. I do not believe in ghosts.


I don't have proof. Neither do the witnesses. My point is that it has happened to so many people, I believe some of them are telling the truth. There is something out there that we do not understand. I have never seen a ufo. I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.
 
2009-06-02 10:51:29 PM
-welcome to totalfark, j. frank parnell.
 
2009-06-02 10:57:37 PM
badhatharry: Al!: badhatharry: There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world.

I will echo several people when I ask you to offer proof. I won't accept anecdotal evidence. I have seen UFOs and I have witnessed "paranormal" phenomenon. I can tell you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I do not believe that aliens have visited this planet any more than I believe in ghosts. I do not believe in ghosts.

I don't have proof. Neither do the witnesses. My point is that it has happened to so many people, I believe some of them are telling the truth. There is something out there that we do not understand. I have never seen a ufo. I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.


But you said they were "clearly spacecraft that were not of this world." If this was clear, than surely there would be some evidence, right? I mean, the car parked in front of my apartment was clearly made by Toyota, the proof is that it says "Toyota" in big metal letters. What is the clear evidence that these were alien spacecraft and not, say, American military planes or weather phenomenon?
 
2009-06-02 11:01:42 PM
attackingpencil: badhatharry: Al!: badhatharry: There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world.

I will echo several people when I ask you to offer proof. I won't accept anecdotal evidence. I have seen UFOs and I have witnessed "paranormal" phenomenon. I can tell you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I do not believe that aliens have visited this planet any more than I believe in ghosts. I do not believe in ghosts.

I don't have proof. Neither do the witnesses. My point is that it has happened to so many people, I believe some of them are telling the truth. There is something out there that we do not understand. I have never seen a ufo. I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.

But you said they were "clearly spacecraft that were not of this world." If this was clear, than surely there would be some evidence, right? I mean, the car parked in front of my apartment was clearly made by Toyota, the proof is that it says "Toyota" in big metal letters. What is the clear evidence that these were alien spacecraft and not, say, American military planes or weather phenomenon?


If a 200 foot diameter flying saucer hovered over your patrol car about 50 feet above your head, you would know for sure that it was an alien space craft.
 
2009-06-02 11:03:09 PM
badhatharry: If a 200 foot diameter flying saucer hovered over your patrol car about 50 feet above your head, you would know for sure that it was an alien space craft.

Except that didn't happen to me, and I've seen no evidence that it's happened to anyone else.
 
2009-06-02 11:07:44 PM
badhatharry: If a 200 foot diameter flying saucer hovered over your patrol car about 50 feet above your head, you would know for sure that it was an alien space craft.

No, you wouldn't. You would know for certain that you saw a 200 foot saucer shaped object hovering over a car. It's origins would be unknown.
 
2009-06-02 11:10:39 PM
people used to believe that the world was flat.

people used to believe that manned spaceflight was fantasy.

people used to believe that a black man would never be president of the united states of america.

-never.

you can have an open mind...or not.

having seen an "orb" of unknown origin and a "black triangle", fifty feet above my head...i can say with some certainty that many of you have quite an awakening ahead.

you will be scared, i absolutely guarentee it.

-then...perhaps...you will make the best of it.

oh yes...you will be scared....more than you are now, living in your denial.

you do not know fear until you are looking at the underside of something totally alien.

-alone.

11:30 at night, next to a pond.

you do not know fear.

many of you would probably have eaten a bullet by now.

i will tell you one thing...

-you will never look at the planet earth in the same light.
 
2009-06-02 11:12:36 PM
HMM infinite expansive universe, trillion upon trillions of planets and stars; Aliens, of course not.

It's almost retarded to be so closed minded that you think nothing is out there. Now do I believe that joe shmoe got drunk in hicksville and aliens diddled his rear in a field, not really.
 
2009-06-02 11:14:24 PM
Bauer: people used to believe that the world was flat.

Until evidence proved them wrong.

Bauer: people used to believe that manned spaceflight was fantasy.

Until evidence proved them wrong.

Bauer: people used to believe that a black man would never be president of the united states of america.

Until evidence proved them wrong.

Notice a trend? Notice what your claims lack?
 
2009-06-02 11:15:27 PM
Here is a credible expert that has scientifically studied the subject.

Link (new window)
 
2009-06-02 11:16:44 PM
badhatharry:

There have been many sightings that were clearly spacecraft that were not of this world. These were not distant lights in the sky. These people are police officers, air traffic controllers, and engineers. Not just yokels or people on drugs. Their accounts are always dismissed as "unidentified" flying objects, mass hysteria, or hallucinations.


Sounds a lot like...

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"That was a UFO beamin' back at ya! Me and Eric Heisman was down in Mexico but 2 weeks ago and we'd seen 40 of 'em flying in formation. They...they...they've got bases all over the world now, you know. They've been coming here ever since 1946 when the scientists first started bouncing radar beams off of the moon. And they have been living and working among us in vast quantities ever since. The government knows all about 'em."

/Venusians, et al.
//Just as crazy now as it was then
///Proof. Put up or shut up
 
2009-06-02 11:18:23 PM
Zamboro: muck4doo: "Yeah, the government says no UFO's. Sure. Do a google earth search on area 51 sometime. They sure do have a lot of strange drawings in the desert over there. It looks like a modern day Nazca. WTF is up with that? Or is that just normal for the government to make what looks like crop circle crap in the middle of nowhere? The pyramid they drew looks interesting too."

Creationist: check.
UFO believer: check.

Where do you stand on werewolves, that's what I'd like to know.


What makes you think I'm a creationist?
 
2009-06-02 11:23:57 PM
keep your eyes and minds open, deniers.

that's your best defence.

-when the shock is more than you can stand...stay the hell away from my house.

crazy, paniced populace...with it's head up it's ass, shooting at shadows.

-you farkers are going to shiat yourselves.

the denial is so thick in the states...which is obvious.

it explains the popularity of shia labeouf.
 
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