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(CNN)   We aren't even halfway through the season, but its time for the MLB farm teams to sell their players to the Sox, Cubs and Yanks   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 22
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2009-06-02 05:29:24 PM
Right.... because small market teams already have all of their games sold out. Might as well get rid of those players that could still draw fans.

Of course it's not like the Yankee's need the help to sell out their new stadium.
 
2009-06-02 05:48:09 PM
.500 does not equal losing record. White Sox were .500 on June 1. Sure it was like 10 p.m., but still June 1.
 
2009-06-02 05:53:57 PM
So according to this guy, teams that are building for next year should give up right now and fark their futures "just because"
 
2009-06-02 05:57:13 PM
Killerclaw: So according to this guy, teams that are building for next year should give up right now and fark their futures "just because"

I think he's saying if they're out of it anyway, the earlier you trade the better value you get back. It is more like, "We're already farked this season, maybe we can get the pieces we need to be competitive next season."

At least that's how I read it.
 
2009-06-02 06:03:04 PM
Wise_Guy: I think he's saying if they're out of it anyway, the earlier you trade the better value you get back. It is more like, "We're already farked this season, maybe we can get the pieces we need to be competitive next season."

At least that's how I read it.


That's how I read it, too. But Oakland will never get the pieces they need to be competitive as long as Bob Geren is managing that team. They have so much potential to be a good team, but they stink because of Geren's bad choices (Beane is partly to blame, too). At this point, I'd trade away Bobby Crosby and Raj Davis for a bag of cotton candy.
 
2009-06-02 06:04:17 PM
.500 does not equal losing record. White Sox were .500 on June 1. Sure it was like 10 p.m., but still June 1.

Was gonna say the same thing. I'm excited for the Sox again. They're playing really well.

/Go Sox!
 
2009-06-02 06:23:12 PM
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/English is hard, I guess
 
2009-06-02 06:32:39 PM
It isn't like those teams get nothing out of it.

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2009-06-02 06:36:12 PM
i hear the Yanks are interested in Pavano
 
2009-06-02 06:39:35 PM
The Cubs don't have a whole lot of payroll flexibility right now, especially with the sale of the club being more than two years in the making.
 
2009-06-02 06:51:28 PM
Kiddo Young: Wise_Guy: I think he's saying if they're out of it anyway, the earlier you trade the better value you get back. It is more like, "We're already farked this season, maybe we can get the pieces we need to be competitive next season."

At least that's how I read it.

That's how I read it, too. But Oakland will never get the pieces they need to be competitive as long as Bob Geren is managing that team. They have so much potential to be a good team, but they stink because of Geren's bad choices (Beane is partly to blame, too). At this point, I'd trade away Bobby Crosby and Raj Davis for a bag of cotton candy.


Count me in for reading it that way as well.

And it's not really Beane's fault. The whole Moneyball philosophy still makes sense, it just doesn't work as well now (partially because of the book, amusingly enough). There's really not much more he could do.

tdpatriots12: It isn't like those teams get nothing out of it.

Yep. Or look at the (first) Teixeira trade.
 
2009-06-02 07:22:57 PM
But the Pirates no longer even have anyone worth trading...

/cry
 
2009-06-02 07:23:28 PM
The Cubs? They may be a large market, but the way they run that team is as small market as it gets. The Cubs have'nt made a good mid season move since Rick Sutcliffe in 1984. They do waste money in the offseason though, good example is Milton Bradley this year.
 
2009-06-02 07:35:48 PM
Now that I looked up payrolls for 09 and see the Cubs are 3rd I may have to rebut my last statement. The Cubs do spend money, just poorly spent.
 
2009-06-02 07:48:04 PM
Itys: Now that I looked up payrolls for 09 and see the Cubs are 3rd I may have to rebut my last statement. The Cubs do spend money, just poorly spent.

They love signing players to bad contract extensions.

I mean, seriously, Zambrano is making 17.75 mil this season. Lee is making 13 mil.
 
2009-06-02 08:07:23 PM
DeWayne Mann: They love signing players to bad contract extensions.

I mean, seriously, Zambrano is making 17.75 mil this season. Lee is making 13 mil.


Neither of them piss me off as much as Soriano ($14mil) does. It's a f*cking slider...how have you not learned that it will not be a strike yet? The fact that anyone throws him anything but low and outside pitches absolutely astonishes me. He will either hit a weak grounder to short or swing and miss.

/great. Milton Bradley just got hurt.
 
2009-06-02 08:19:36 PM
markyp09: Neither of them piss me off as much as Soriano ($14mil) does. It's a f*cking slider...how have you not learned that it will not be a strike yet? The fact that anyone throws him anything but low and outside pitches absolutely astonishes me. He will either hit a weak grounder to short or swing and miss.

He has NEVER hit that pitch, yet has always tried. I saw him play for AA Norwich in the Yankees system, and he still continually swung at that stupid slider off the plate.

Still, it's hard to say he's overpaid. Fangraphs has a value calculator (bottom of the page) that suggests he's been worth 20, 23 & 14 mil for the last three seasons. Their system isn't perfect, but he was probably worth somewhere in that ballpark.

This year he kinda sucks, but there was no real reason for anyone to expect that (unlike the problems with Z & Lee).
 
2009-06-02 09:00:17 PM
Kornchex: The Cubs don't have a whole lot of payroll flexibility right now, especially with the sale of the club being more than two years in the making.

Hell, who would want to buy a team with a crappy old stadium with no realistic chances of getting a new one?
 
2009-06-03 12:47:57 AM
Itys: The Cubs? They may be a large market, but the way they run that team is as small market as it gets. The Cubs have'nt made a good mid season move since Rick Sutcliffe in 1984. They do waste money in the offseason though, good example is Milton Bradley this year.

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Begs to differ...
 
2009-06-03 11:50:28 AM
Itys: The Cubs? They may be a large market, but the way they run that team is as small market as it gets. The Cubs have'nt made a good mid season move since Rick Sutcliffe in 1984. They do waste money in the offseason though, good example is Milton Bradley this year.

Aramis Ramirez and Rich Harden would like to have a word with you. Both of those trades were absolute steals.

0/10 on the troll attempt.
 
2009-06-03 03:19:34 PM
This just in...

Popular teams dissed by Farkers.

Quick. To the RomeroCopter!
 
2009-06-04 07:15:00 PM
Billings Mustangs = Cincinnati Reds AA Farm Team. Cheap beer, $6-$9 tickets and the glorious new stadium we voters passed. Still miss Cobb Field - new one looks too sterile as opposed to creaky bleachers about to break and grass that was goat-mowed (not joking) until 1977.

Did I mention that it was like going back in time where there were GASP! ACTUAL TAPS CONNECTED TO KEGS IN THE BASEMENT?! I didn't?

That's because there WEREN'T.
 
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