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(AP)   Europe to apologize for slavery, but apology won't include $$$   ( divider line
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2001-09-07 01:54:47 PM  
1st b00bies
2001-09-07 01:55:01 PM  
Why does anybody have to apologize for slavery. It was rival African tribes that sold slaves to the whities in the first place. Africa should apologize to its self.
2001-09-07 02:03:22 PM  
Right, how many of these African slave trading nations are willing to 'fess up about their part in it? Hypocrisy is riding tall in the saddle today.
2001-09-07 02:04:37 PM  
I've got something long fat and white in my pants to suck on for any black (or white) person that thinks they deserve an apology.
2001-09-07 02:05:10 PM  
Why does anybody have to apologize for slavery.

Probably because those who actually bought slaves share the guilt of it. Just because they didn't actually capture those people and try to sell them doesn't mean that they're absolved of any guilt. It's just a different kind of guilt.
2001-09-07 02:07:29 PM  
Now, do the African countries and black people feel any better with an apology? Will they finally shut-up? No, not until they get money, that is all they want and they still won't be happy until they get more money and on and on. We all should just tell them to get over it, they are not getting anything so move on.
2001-09-07 02:07:58 PM  
Slippy:Probably because those who actually bought slaves share the guilt of it.

Really? Europe outlawed slavery over 150 years ago? Who would still be alive *to* feel guilty?
2001-09-07 02:11:01 PM  
2001-09-07 02:13:12 PM  
Tripper: True enough. But then that argument can also be applied to wanting the African tribes to apologize to themselves for selling people into slavery in the first place. Like Ann Heche, it swings both ways.

The big point of the article, I think, is that no reparations will be paid by the EU countries. That was made pretty clear:

African countries still were pushing for slavery and colonialism to be labeled ``crimes against humanity'' and for Western countries to pay reparations. The EU rejected both calls, Vervaeke said.

So it's just an apology for the crimes of generations long I said the other day, it doesn't make much of a difference in the long run, and certainly isn't going to heal any old wounds. (Of course, neither would any amount of money, realistically...)
2001-09-07 02:14:20 PM  
Honestly, what would the African countries do with money if they got it?!?!

Buy more guns so they can shoot and enslave each other?!?!

Anybody that thinks that the money would be spent on anything worth while like food, medicine, hospitals, education is farking stupid.

It's just a matter of time before disease and war wipe out everybody on that continent. If we hold out long enough, we won't have to say we're sorry.
2001-09-07 02:14:36 PM  
Europe to apologize for slavery, but apology won't include $$$

Oh crap. Now you will have Rev. Jessie Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton up your a$$ now...

Heheh, better you than us....
2001-09-07 02:19:05 PM  
Actually the majority of the money would go to the lawyers, much like the anti-tobacco lawsuits.
2001-09-07 02:29:35 PM  
I apologize for having slaves. Wait, that wasn't me.

I apologise that Africa has slaves. Wait, that's not me, either.

I apologize for having money. No, you can't have any. Go make your own.
2001-09-07 02:37:24 PM  
Hypocrisy is riding tall in the saddle today.

Its right up there with "every man is created equal" and "unalienable rights." At least in the US. The Buyer and Seller are guilty of slavery.
2001-09-07 02:37:52 PM  
Stuff like this irritates me. Same with the German gov't giving money to the Jews. I'm no neo nazi or anti-semite mind you, but their antagonists are a) all really old or dead now and b) a DIFFERENT government. That would be like Italy paying the jews for their suffering under the Roman Empire. In the same vein, the slave owners are all dead now as well, as are the victims. Ridiculous if you ask me (Yes, I am aware that no one asked me :P ) but then again that's just my opinion and you know what they say about them
2001-09-07 02:47:56 PM  
people! Live and learn! we realize that slavery is wrong and we abolish it! life goes on!

I dont beleive we have ANYTHING to apologize for... our ancestors, maybe, but us - NO.

Those who do not learn from history are condemmed to repeat it, right?
2001-09-07 02:50:13 PM  
Are the Romans going to pay us Brits reparations for colonosing us 2000 years ago?
2001-09-07 02:51:27 PM  
thats the british spelling of colonising btw :]
2001-09-07 03:39:09 PM  
colonosing.... ewch... sounds painful
2001-09-07 03:49:48 PM  
BubbaFark: So true. These bastards couldn't give a shiat about the apology. They just want to sneak a free piece of whatever somebody's willing to give out. Sounds like lazy Americans aren't the only ones looking for free handouts.
2001-09-07 04:01:08 PM  
**pulls up soapbox**

2001-09-07 04:04:22 PM  
Stuff like this irritates me.

Hey Ash you might as well let the war criminals go too. Their victims are either old or dead. War reparations make perfect sense.

So if I kidnapped you and your family and worked you to death you wouldn't mind? Nice to know.
2001-09-07 04:10:20 PM  
If you think slavery is not around anymore you're wrong. It's still around yessirree, just not in countries we think of as first world types of countries.
This, I think, or I hope anyway, is a warm-up for the EU to have some basis upon which it can start to condemn slavery abroad.
But for the same African countries that have slavery to demand apologies, well that's pretty silly if you ask me.
2001-09-07 04:15:13 PM  
Here's my apology:

I apologize, on behalf of no one, to everyone who thinks that they are owed an apology for slavery, and issue this apology for the following reasons:

1. I apolgoize for slavery, despite the fact that it was YOUR OWN PEOPLE who sold you into slavery (all us whitey's did was take part in a process that, while morally ambiguous, resulted in cheap labour).

2. I apologize for the fact that I would sooner piss off every dollar I had on stupid shiat that is totally worthless, and do so to the point of bankruptcy, than let it go towards reparations.

3. I apologize for the fact that you can't quite living in the past.

4. I apologize for all of the respression that you fel....scratch that, you weren't alive yet, were you?

5. I apologize for the fact that you have to cry "Racism" in order to get ahead in the world.

There, hope everything's better now.


PS: For anyone who these apologies don't apply to (read, for those of you who aren't up in arms over reparations and/or who can/have made/make something of yourselves) I'm not apologizing, as it would be wasted breath.

PPS: For anyone whom the PS applies to, congratulations on not being an ass and on being the ones whom can look towards the future, instead of live in the past.
2001-09-07 04:57:15 PM  
I personally had no problem with reparations paid by the German govt. to concentration camp survivors, or of the reparations given for Japanese immigrants having been forced into camps during WWII here in the US. The difference between these settlements and slavery reparations is that they were PAID TO THE ONES AFFECTED. No, I don't buy the line that all blacks have had financial or social loss at the hands of the residual racism from slavery. And the idea of paying African nations for the damage done by the slave trade is just damn silly when slavery is still practiced there. This whole matter criminally trivialized by bickering for cash.
2001-09-07 05:09:30 PM  
pete and repete were in a boat...pete jumped out

...this was all said Wed, Thurs, Fri....

pete and repete were in a boat...pete jumped out

pete and repete were in a boat...pete jumped out

peopel copy and post the same crap

wait for it


My crap, copy and paste: " racist so and so..."
2001-09-07 05:18:40 PM  
Lets see my ancestors ( ugly vikings) took slaves from all over Europe... Then the rest of Europe took slaves from the rest of the world..Does this mean that I have to apologize to you all??
But wait some of these slaves are probably my ancestors as well as the slavers!!
To myself: I´m so sorry.
Reply to myself: Piss off!
2001-09-07 05:23:24 PM  
1. I apolgoize for slavery, despite the fact that it was YOUR OWN PEOPLE who sold you into slavery (all us whitey's did was take part in a process that, while morally ambiguous, resulted in cheap labour).

Slaves aren't labor. They're capital. [/nitpick off]
2001-09-07 05:54:30 PM  


I'm agreeing with you...
2001-09-07 06:59:20 PM  
I'm not apologizing for something I am personally not farking responsible for. So your ancestors were slaves, big farking deal. Somewhere along the generations, wayyyyy back when, someone in everybody's farking family was a goddamned slave. Shock, shock, there were white slaves too!
Get the fark over it, stop sniveling and no, I'm not handing over any farking money in reparation either.
2001-09-07 07:01:47 PM  
I am sorry.
Does every one feel better?
2001-09-07 07:35:33 PM  
awww, group hug everybody


2001-09-07 07:47:16 PM  
Ok Now Europe can apologize to me, for what they did to my ancestors the Irish and the Scots,
2001-09-07 08:15:54 PM  
Slavery is still widely practiced in Africa,governments keeping the people half starved and paying them in food to fight their little wars and uprisings.Im glad to see all the Farkers here already know that.
2001-09-07 08:21:39 PM  
I say pay the whining lazy-ass babies in Euros. That'll shut'em up. I can see them now down at the liquor store trying to get a bottle of gin with a handful of Euro dollars. "But dis is my SLAVE moneys. I earneds dis!"
2001-09-07 08:22:34 PM  
NOBODY ALIVE TODAY should have to applogize for slavery......

that is PC, liberal bullshiat......
2001-09-07 08:23:28 PM  
slavery in the US at least....

the rest of the world is not our concern.... deal within FIRST, then outside
2001-09-07 10:27:43 PM  
ibbity dibbity...hibbi...hop
2001-09-07 10:33:45 PM  
An apology and further condemnation of slavery is good,but how much aid has the EU and the US given to Africa already?
Quite a lot,I would reckon.I don't think there a whole lot of wiggle room to ask for reparations.
2001-09-07 11:06:52 PM  
Note to descendants of a church in Northern Indiana, near Rochester.

I'm sorry my great great great grandfather threw a dead skunk in a burlap bag into your sanctuary during a service over a hundred years ago.

Is the stink gone yet?
2001-09-07 11:12:50 PM  
Perhaps white Americans should consider filing suit against subsaharan African countries for selling us defective goods?
2001-09-07 11:35:59 PM  
Europe apologizes for slavery. Hmmm. Aren't these the same farkheads that would have lost WWII if it weren't for us kicking the fark out of Hitler? Let's talk about WHO would have been slaves if it weren't for us. I bet the UN racism council is having a field day with this one.

Coward farking Bastards. Wait, don't tell me, France surrenders. AGAIN.
2001-09-07 11:58:05 PM  
Even the African-American Africans don't want the stinkin' Euros.
2001-09-08 12:04:34 AM  
Well I made my comments lower. Those who care will read it.

But in summary, an apology hurts no one.

Respect is the key, and it costs nothing. People rise to your vision of the best they can be.

Respect. A simple concept.

Smell my finger?

~ Pinky ~
2001-09-08 01:19:49 AM  
Batcar - read a little history and stop embarrassing yourself.

Sorry, everything that needs to be said has been said here.. Perhaps the reparations should be something along the lines of a middle finger, because that's all that's needed.
And am I the only person noticing that the people asking for an apology now were never enslaved, and very likely aren't even REMOTELY descended from the people who were? YOU: IN AFRICA. SLAVES: IN EUROPE/NORTH AMERICA. This ends the logic lesson. Western blacks are more deserving of an apology, and they live in countries with pretty decent standards of living - they can't complain about their current lot, only previous grievances that they can't imagine.
Besides, they're winning the war.. Look at all the stupid white kids who keep trying to be black.
2001-09-08 01:20:34 AM  
StinkyPinky - speaking of respect, wouldn't it be fair to argue that it's disrespectful to demand an apology and MONEY for something so absurd?
2001-09-08 01:27:38 AM  
Batcar01, you're an idiot, did you learn you history from American movies?
2001-09-08 02:34:42 AM  
Rikk: Why don't you ask Eric Clapton that question?

Methinks thou art a jerk.

You need to masturbate excessively or find someone who might hug you. I'm not doin' it.

Smell my finger?

~ Pinky ~
2001-09-08 02:37:06 AM  
Rikk writes: "Look at all the stupid white kids who keep trying to be black."

Uhmn, ever heard of Eric Clapton, boy?
2001-09-08 07:38:36 AM  
I want (no, DEMAND) a farking apology and some $$$ for what everyone did to my ancestors. My poor grandad drank himself to death after coming over from Ireland and being labelled "Green nubian" by the locals.......

Seriously tho.... I suggest that anyone seriously considering offers of cash, or ass kissing apologies read Jim Goad's "Red Neck Manifesto." It's a politically incorrect, subversive, eye opener.
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