I hate dogs.

Aulus: OK, I am a bit unclear as to just how the police got involved here.

Did the store manager call them? Did the customer call them? Were they there at the time? Oh, and has it been determined if the mutt was, in fact, as service dog or not?

I can see this going any number of ways, so it really is not clear who is in the wrong here.

Reading between the lines, it looks like the customer called because he felt his rights were being violated. "He wanted to press charges, but an officer explained that the manager didn't do anything wrong..."

Refusing to leave when asked and starting a scuffle puts the guy in the wrong.

As far as whether the dog was a service animal or not, he had nothing to prove that it was.

At a beachside restaurant in Cozumel, Mexico, there were about 5 cats lounging about, even helping themselves to jumping up on peoples' tables. It's been about 10 years, but I distinctly remember one of them having a missing eye.

/Mrrrawr

See, this is one thing I don't like about living in Austria (oder Österreich)

Dogs are allowed everywhere. In restaurants, shopping centers, public buses, you name it.

Not service dogs, just regular pets. I don't have any allergies but I imagine I'd be very upset if I did.

At a beachside restaurant in Cozumel, Mexico, there were about 5 cats lounging about, even helping themselves to jumping up on peoples' tables. It's been about 10 years, but I distinctly remember one of them having a missing eye.

/Mrrrawr

I was at a resort in Turkey (Green Beach Resort (new window), highly recommended.)
and they had this problem there too. The campus was huge, and there were about 5 cats that had each staked a claim to their own area. When I was down by the beach the Turkish bartender kept making the motions with his hands for me to throw one of the cats off the dock. Very friendly animals, didn't look sick at all.
Animals in Thailand were a different story..


/Seeing some cats around when you are in a developing nation is to be expected. If you don't than realize that the hotel has taken steps to poison and kill them.

krusader3z: Seeing some cats around when you are in a developing nation is to be expected.

I was amused by the kitties! Although I love my standard of living, and realize fully how lucky I am to have been born where and when I was, it was also neat to see a place so laid-back that cats could be hanging out with you in a restaurant; you'd never see this here in the U.S.

You're having an authentic burrito, and then a kitty strolls by in the manner of the restaurant's owner, looks at you non-chalantly as if to say "How you doin'?" Loved it.

I thought only blind people got dogs that were allowed in restaurants. If he was blind, clearly he would not be able to 'scuffle' with police. The guy's a jerk, and belongs in jail. I have a dollar says he never goes back to the shelter for the beloved dog.

anarchy_x: I thought only blind people got dogs that were allowed in restaurants. If he was blind, clearly he would not be able to 'scuffle' with police. The guy's a jerk, and belongs in jail. I have a dollar says he never goes back to the shelter for the beloved dog.

You can get hearing dogs for the deaf and dogs trained to perform tasks for those who suffer from mobility problems. It's not always obvious (you could have someone who seems ok but suffers from crippling arthritis at random times)

There's a woman who regularly comes to my theater with a service dog. Only it's a tiny tiny dog she holds in her arms most times.

Anyone have an idea what a tiny dog could be used for as a service dog? I've been curious, but I don't want to be rude.

/never had a thread I could ask this question in and be semi on-topic

StrikitRich: krusader3z: See, this is one thing I don't like about living in Austria (oder Österreich)

Dogs are allowed everywhere. In restaurants, shopping centers, public buses, you name it.

It's called 'Muslim Repellent.'

Two thumbs up.



/You racist

You racist

Muslims aren't a race, they are a religion. A seriously farked religion.

does your dog bite?

/zat is not my dog...

If someone asks you to leave McDonald's, they are doing you a favor.

bigd29: There's a woman who regularly comes to my theater with a service dog. Only it's a tiny tiny dog she holds in her arms most times.

Anyone have an idea what a tiny dog could be used for as a service dog? I've been curious, but I don't want to be rude.

/never had a thread I could ask this question in and be semi on-topic

I knew a woman who had a small service dog. It alerted her to impending epileptic seizures.

"Tasered, pepper sprayed and subdued by three police officers at a McDonald's restaurant after refusing to leave when a manager questioned him about his sleeping dog"

You people live in a police state, you do know that? Slag the English off about their Nanny State and all that shiate, but you're kidding no one.

EatHam: Cormee: You people live in a police state, you do know that?

If someone is trespassing in my house, I would hope the police would remove them. See, here we are allowed to be secure in our homes, and are not required to serve intruders tea and help them make off with our valuables.



Not sure about you but the article I'm reading takes place in a McDonalds restaurant.

Cormee: You people live in a police state, you do know that? Slag the English off about their Nanny State and all that shiate, but you're kidding no one.

I live in a police state, so I get a kick out of your reply.

Really, if you consider Saudi Arabia a police state. It's a nice police state, though. I like it, at any rate, and can assure you that here the events of that article would not play out the same way here.

The hypothetical results of bringing your dog into a place where people eat, then getting righteous with the cops when they arrive in this state would involve a beating and a shooting for owner and dog, repectively, were anybody stupid enough to try. In a "police state" the police act like police and thump you when you defy authority. A "nanny state" is so called because of both the tender handling of criminals and their doggies (with rubber gloves and tasers and pepper juice lest the precious snowflakes be damaged) and the childish nature of the crimes it gives rise to.

beerbaron: You racist

Muslims aren't a race, they are a religion. A seriously farked religion.

All religions are serious farked
/my 2 cents

Ow My Balls: I was amused by the kitties! Although I love my standard of living, and realize fully how lucky I am to have been born where and when I was, it was also neat to see a place so laid-back that cats could be hanging out with you in a restaurant; you'd never see this here in the U.S.

Come visit us in Palm Beach. Kitties ALL OVER the place, but most of them seem to have decent manners and mind their own business.

EatHam: which is private property, just like my home is.

You live in a McDonalds?

Anyway, all joking aside - your argument is farking ridiculous - so, with that in mind I won't be discussing this any further with you.

Cormee: EatHam: which is private property, just like my home is.

You live in a McDonalds?

Anyway, all joking aside - your argument is farking ridiculous - so, with that in mind I won't be discussing this any further with you.

It's private property and covered by pretty much exactly the same laws that your home would be. You can ask anybody to leave at any time, deny entry to anybody and open/close whenever you want.

If some hobo and his dog stroll in and refuse to leave, that's trespassing.

Sometimes you just have to let sleeping dogs lie.

Does not approve.

bigd29: There's a woman who regularly comes to my theater with a service dog. Only it's a tiny tiny dog she holds in her arms most times.

Anyone have an idea what a tiny dog could be used for as a service dog? I've been curious, but I don't want to be rude.

/never had a thread I could ask this question in and be semi on-topic


Agoraphobia, seizures, that sort of thing. Kind of like moral support that you wouldn't get by asking your friends 10 times a day if they'll go out and run errands with you.

But back to the issue at hand, when I was working retail we had a lot of people who would bring their service dogs into the store. We knew all our regulars and their service dogs and didn't bother them unless it was to ask to give their pooch a little scratch under the chin... teehee. Of course, anyone else who brought a dog in had to be asked if Fido was a service dog. If yes, we said okay and let them go about their business. If no, we'd politely ask them to take Spot outside.

Now, as I understand it, under the law businesses are only allowed to simply ask if the person's animal is being used for service and nothing else. Prying into anything else, such as inquiring about the person's disability or even asking for identification violates the law. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the store I worked at was very adamant about us just asking the question and leaving it at that.

You can have a service dog for being bi-polar, schizophrenic, depressed, or for any other mental illnesses. I worked for a airline and in training we were told if someone said they had a service dog we didn't even need to ask for proof or charge a person extra for the dog as long as it sits on your lap and under 25lbs or something like that.

Man tells McDonald's manager his pet is a "service dog" in order to bring it inside restaurant. So-called service dog sleeps away as the man gets tasered for *resisting arrest for* trespassing

FTFY subby...

and lajimi...your attempt at a troll earns a 2/10

krusader3z: See, this is one thing I don't like about living in Austria (oder Österreich)

Dogs are allowed everywhere. In restaurants, shopping centers, public buses, you name it.

Not service dogs, just regular pets. I don't have any allergies but I imagine I'd be very upset if I did.

It's becaue they use them as protection against Dingos and Kangaroos.

/;-)

beerbaron: You racist

Muslims aren't a race, they are a religion. A seriously farked religion.

Yeah, religions aren't races. You can't rip on races because people can't help being whatever race they are born into.

You're totally allowed to rip on religions.

/Except the jews.
//Unless you're jewish.

The part most of you are missing, is the McDonalds manager followed policy and the law:

"Is that a service dog?" was all he asked, once told yes he left the guy alone.

Mr. Gimpy McHandicrapped on the other hand, got all uppity and self-righteous (as those types do in Madison, it's like mecca for them or something) and called the cops to come arrest the manager because he thought even asking was against some law.

Gimpy subsequently got pissy and pushy with the cops when he got told what he didn't want to hear, was then told by the manager he should leave (not because of the dog, but because now he's being an ass) and when the cops tried to get the guy out he escalated and got tazered.

This is a case of self-tazering, the guy was asking for it all the way.

/why the fark anybody would want to hang out in McDonalds in that neighborhood is beyond me, you are likely to lose your rims on your car and get shot or propositioned by a hooker.
//and not a good looking hooker either.

abigsmurf: anarchy_x: I thought only blind people got dogs that were allowed in restaurants. If he was blind, clearly he would not be able to 'scuffle' with police. The guy's a jerk, and belongs in jail. I have a dollar says he never goes back to the shelter for the beloved dog.

You can get hearing dogs for the deaf and dogs trained to perform tasks for those who suffer from mobility problems. It's not always obvious (you could have someone who seems ok but suffers from crippling arthritis at random times)

Some service dogs predict seizures. I asked an otherwise healthy looking woman once about her dog and that was his job.

All the people with service animals that I have met are very nice and open to talking about their dogs and why they need them. They have to be approved to have a dog, so some belligerent idiot who is unwilling to learn or be taught how to handle certain situations is unlikely to get a dog that an organization spent thousands of dollars training.

All the more reason to suspect the guy here is a lying prick.

WTF is wrong with people? I have never in my life know people as stupid as anyone in these Fark postings. It is beyond my measure of comprehension why would anyone keep pushing a lie to a point where they're not getting out of it except an arrest and an ass kicking.

As far as whether the dog was a service animal or not, he had nothing to prove that it was.

Whether the guy had anything indicating the dog was in fact a service animal wasn't stated in the article, they do carry cards. What the dog obviously wasn't wearing was a Service Dog Vest.

And for the person who thinks only the blind get service dogs, nope. They have service dogs for the deaf and physically handicapped as well. The dogs are trained to perform functions to aid specific types of disabilities. There is a wheelchair bound lady in my workplace that has a service dog to help her with functions she can perform because of her serverely deformed arms and legs.

jafiwam: The part most of you are missing, is the McDonalds manager followed policy and the law:

In New Mexico, it's not illegal to have a dog in a dining area. They're forbidden in the kitchen, but a restaurant owner gets to decide whether to allow dogs in the dining room. The manager was following corporate policy. But whether it was "the law" -- well I don't know Wisconsin's restaurant regulations. Got nothin.

CormeeEatHam: which is private property, just like my home is.

You live in a McDonalds?

Anyway, all joking aside - your argument is farking ridiculous - so, with that in mind I won't be discussing this any further with you.

It doesn't have to be somebody's house to be private property. Public property is property owned by any type of government entity. Private Property is everything not owned by the government.

I remember just a few years back seeing dogs all over Austrian supermarkets. It's changed a bit since then, but pretty much anywhere else you can bring a dog.

This is one thing I never understood about America, although it might be the shiat training I tend to see back there compared to the well-behaved dogs here...

dog: There he goes again. Why does he always have to make such a racket when I'm trying to get a snooze?

FTFA the Americans With Disabilities act allows business owners or managers to ask customers if an animal brought into a business is a service animal, or what kind of tasks the animal has been trained to perform, but can't ask about any special identification cards for the animal, or about the person's disability.

Really? Wow - I though they could ask for identification for the animal, but not about the dog's job or the persons DA. Hmph...

If they tried take my wife away from her Guide Dog, he would cry, whine, and screech like his heart was breaking. Someone in traffic though I was hurting him the other day, cause she asked me to take him outside without her.

No, he just REALLY misses his handler.