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(Wikipedia)   Many people calling Sonia Sotomayor first Hispanic Supreme Court Justice. These people are wrong: The estimable Justice Benjamin Cardozo, nominated by Hoover in 1932, had that honour. Please make a note of it   (en.wikipedia.org ) divider line
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2009-05-26 11:04:15 AM  
And he had better remembered quotes in his opinions than Sotomayor will ever have.
 
2009-05-26 11:04:54 AM  
Pete, Re-Pete and Insta-Pete all bonked heads above the well...
 
2009-05-26 11:05:53 AM  

Shaggy_C: I thought she was the first hispanic one with Boobies??


This is important!
 
2009-05-26 11:06:02 AM  
Hispanic and gay(Celibate my ass). The media loves to ignore the past, don't they.
 
2009-05-26 11:06:41 AM  
Sotomayor is a first-generation US Citizen, born to parents who were from Puerto Rico.
Cardozo was born 130 years after his family came to America from Portugal.
Little bit different.
 
2009-05-26 11:06:58 AM  
Um, I don't think so. The family emigrated 120 years before he was born. Part Hispanic, certainly. But depending on parents and grandparents, could be as little as 25 percent.
 
2009-05-26 11:07:00 AM  
Subby = img1.fark.net
 
2009-05-26 11:07:17 AM  
so...

being of portuguese descent is Hispanic now? really? Is everyone from a European country Hispanic, or just the ones close enough to Spain to sound spanish?
 
2009-05-26 11:07:23 AM  
Sephardic Jew ≠ Hispanic

Please make a note of it.
 
2009-05-26 11:07:50 AM  
Ha! The filter has doomed Shaggy_C to the basement. He's innocent, I tell ya, innocent!
 
2009-05-26 11:08:05 AM  
The entry says Benjamin Cardozo was of Portuguese Jewish descent, and his family had been in the US since the 1740s.

Not exactly what's understood these days as "Hispanic." Technically, perhaps, but practically? No.
 
2009-05-26 11:08:13 AM  
Born in New York City to Albert and Rebecca Nathan Cardozo, Benjamin was a twin, with his sister Emily. Some of Cardozo's ancestors were Portuguese Jews who immigrated to Britain's North American colonies in the 1740s and 1750s from Portugal[1] via the Netherlands and England. The surname Cardozo (Cardoso) is of Portuguese origin.

Where in this does it say he was hispanic? That's a very loose link you're claiming there.
 
2009-05-26 11:08:30 AM  
Some of Cardozo's ancestors were Portuguese Jews who immigrated to Britain's North American colonies in the 1740s and 1750s from Portugal[1] via the Netherlands and England.

Does that really count?
 
2009-05-26 11:08:54 AM  

Emrick: Sephardic Jew ≠ Hispanic

Please make a note of it.


media-2.web.britannica.com
What a hispanic judge may look like?
 
2009-05-26 11:09:21 AM  

Theaetetus: Sotomayor is a first-generation US Citizen, born to parents who were from Puerto Rico.
Cardozo was born 130 years after his family came to America from Portugal.
Little bit different.


Isn't Puerto Rico part of the US and aren't all born in Puerto Rico citizens?
 
2009-05-26 11:09:34 AM  
And they would be wrong anyway. She is not a Supreme Court Justice. She is a nominee. Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we? Or is the new dictator going to appoint her without hearings?
 
2009-05-26 11:09:34 AM  

vsavatar: And he had better remembered quotes in his opinions than Sotomayor will ever have.


That's true for 99% of all SCOTUS justices -- Cardozo is one of the legends. The only one right off the top of my head who has more famous opinions and quotes is Holmes.
 
2009-05-26 11:09:44 AM  
Hmm...

"Portuguese Jew" = "Hispanic"

Were you aware?
 
2009-05-26 11:10:03 AM  
Meh. It's only an affirmative action hire.
 
2009-05-26 11:10:08 AM  
Well, Cardozo's family originally came from the Iberian peninsula, so that makes him Hispanic in a generic sense. The current usage of the term "Hispanic," however, is limited to Spanish- or Portuguese-speaking persons from Central and South America and the Caribbean region. I suppose "Amerispanic" or "New World Hispanic" would be more accurate, but we're stuck with "Hispanic" as the term used in general discourse. So Cardozo was "Hispanic" in the general sense but not in the modern sense of the term.
 
2009-05-26 11:10:21 AM  
As an adult, Cardozo no longer practiced his faith (he identified himself as an "agnostic"), but remained proud of his Jewish heritage.

Now that that's sorted out...
 
2009-05-26 11:10:44 AM  
So to be technically and politically correct instead of saying Hispanic he should introduce her as the first Spic justice?

/LOLRAZA
//*runs*
 
2009-05-26 11:10:47 AM  
Since when does European = Hispanic.

I thought Hispanic basically meant you were from Latin America.
 
2009-05-26 11:11:03 AM  
I refuse to believe she's hispanic until I see her from behind!!!
 
2009-05-26 11:11:30 AM  

Theaetetus: Sotomayor is a first-generation US Citizen, born to parents who were from Puerto Rico.
Cardozo was born 130 years after his family came to America from Portugal.
Little bit different.


Puerto Rico has been part of the US for about 100 years, so yeah, only a little bit different.
 
2009-05-26 11:11:30 AM  

Nakito: He's innocent, I tell ya, innocent!


Or...am I? ;P
 
2009-05-26 11:11:39 AM  
She may have 8 boobies...

'cause I think she is going to be a lapdog.
That's what he was looking for....
 
2009-05-26 11:11:42 AM  
When are we, as a nation, going to get beyond our obsession with "First [some race / ethnicity] to be [insert occupation / award / activity]"? I don't give a crap what sex, color, ethnicity, or sexual orientation people in the news are. It's getting really old.
 
2009-05-26 11:13:16 AM  
Isn't A-Rod on the Supreme Court?
 
2009-05-26 11:13:51 AM  
From Wiki:

"The U.S. Office of Management and Budget currently defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race".[14] This definition excludes people of Portuguese origins, such as Portuguese Americans and Brazilian Americans. However, they are included in some government agencies' definitions. For example, the U.S. Department of Transportation defines Hispanic to include, "persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race."[15] This definition has been adopted by the Small Business Administration as well as many federal, state, and municipal agencies for the purposes of awarding government contracts to minority owned businesses. Still other government agencies adopt definitions that exclude people from Spain. Some others include people from Brazil, but not Spain or Portugal."

You're welcome.

the rest of us hispanic farkers would like to thank you for your diligent research before submitting this link.
 
2009-05-26 11:13:55 AM  

Emrick: Sephardic Jew ≠ Hispanic

Please make a note of it.


If the story links to Wiki, then I can source from Wiki... yes???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic#Definitions_in_the_United_States
"The U.S. Office of Management and Budget currently defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race".[14] This definition excludes people of Portuguese origins, such as Portuguese Americans and Brazilian Americans. However, they are included in some government agencies' definitions. For example, the U.S. Department of Transportation defines Hispanic to include, "persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race."[15] This definition has been adopted by the Small Business Administration as well as many federal, state, and municipal agencies for the purposes of awarding government contracts to minority owned businesses. Still other government agencies adopt definitions that exclude people from Spain. Some others include people from Brazil, but not Spain or Portugal."
 
2009-05-26 11:14:27 AM  
He has a Z in his name, dammit! That means he was brown and unwelcomed here by the Minutemen. Make a note of it.
 
2009-05-26 11:14:48 AM  
She would be the first Boricuan justice.

Expect the Puerto Rican parade in NYC to be extra loco this year.
 
2009-05-26 11:14:53 AM  
Cardozo was placed on the court by a Republican so he wasn't a "real" hispanic any more than Sandra Day O'Connor was a woman or Clarence Thomas was black.
 
2009-05-26 11:14:53 AM  
PORTUGUESE
http://tinyurl.com/pgzhss
(copy and paste)

JEWISH
http://tinyurl.com/o8rh7h
(copy and paste, NSFW)
 
2009-05-26 11:14:58 AM  
Odd that those on the Left, who pride themselves on not judging people by their race, are absolutely obsessed with doing just that in every decision they make.

Why don't we judge her on her merits as opposed to her sex and ethnicity? I guess that makes me intolerant ironically.
 
2009-05-26 11:15:31 AM  

AiryAnne: Theaetetus: Sotomayor is a first-generation US Citizen, born to parents who were from Puerto Rico.
Cardozo was born 130 years after his family came to America from Portugal.
Little bit different.

Isn't Puerto Rico part of the US and aren't all born in Puerto Rico citizens?


Yes. we're American spics. but spics none the less! (not portuguese)
 
2009-05-26 11:15:57 AM  
I guess Obama had better withdraw the nomination then. It was a requirement that the nominee be the first Hispanic.
 
2009-05-26 11:16:07 AM  
Butterflew, you beat me, but I provided a link... Hat tip to you all the same, mate.
 
2009-05-26 11:16:41 AM  

Meet Us at the Stick: Since when does European = Hispanic.

I thought Hispanic basically meant you were from Latin America.


No, it means you are descended from Europeans who came from the Iberian peninsula. Which was once the Roman province of Hispania. Hence the name. And if you are that, odds are you live in a country once controlled by the Spanish empire, and you probably speak Spanish. But not always.

It also means that if you're Hispanic you're basically a slightly tan European descended white guy.

So, Benjamin Cardozo's family was once from what was once Hispania. Therefor he is Hispanic. Just because he doesn't fit some folks preconceived notions of what "Hispanic" is, doesn't mean he isn't.
 
2009-05-26 11:17:18 AM  
The lever you have pulled - "brakes"- is not in service. Please make a note of it.
 
2009-05-26 11:17:26 AM  
I don't see why her being the first (or second) Hispanic Supreme Court Judge is a big deal. Alberto Gonzales was the first Hispanic Attorney General, and look what a disaster he turned out to be.
 
2009-05-26 11:17:30 AM  
Really getting out ahead of this one, eh?
 
2009-05-26 11:17:42 AM  
as long as she's hispanic and is not qualified. that's all i care about.
 
2009-05-26 11:18:08 AM  
To add to the FAIL pile:

The expansion of the Spanish Empire between 1492 and 1898 brought thousands of Spanish migrants to the conquered lands, creating a large settlement that stretches all over the world and producing several multiracial populations. The term Hispanic is sometimes applied to the populations of these places. This is not necessarily so for people of Portuguese ancestry. Portuguese Americans are not considered "Hispanic" by the United States Census Bureau.
 
2009-05-26 11:18:35 AM  

Butterflew: so...

being of portuguese descent is Hispanic now? really? Is everyone from a European country Hispanic, or just the ones close enough to Spain to sound spanish?


It's sort of like a European African-American.
 
2009-05-26 11:18:41 AM  

Butterflew: AiryAnne: Theaetetus: Sotomayor is a first-generation US Citizen, born to parents who were from Puerto Rico.
Cardozo was born 130 years after his family came to America from Portugal.
Little bit different.

Isn't Puerto Rico part of the US and aren't all born in Puerto Rico citizens?

Yes. we're American spics. but spics none the less! (not portuguese)


Wait, Ricans can be spics too? I though only wetbacks and scratchbacks could be spics.

// My father taught me wrong.
 
2009-05-26 11:18:56 AM  
"I refuse to believe she's hispanic until I see her from behind!!!"

The ONLY definitive test proposed yet!!
 
2009-05-26 11:19:00 AM  

Spade: Meet Us at the Stick: Since when does European = Hispanic.

I thought Hispanic basically meant you were from Latin America.

No, it means you are descended from Europeans who came from the Iberian peninsula. Which was once the Roman province of Hispania. Hence the name. And if you are that, odds are you live in a country once controlled by the Spanish empire, and you probably speak Spanish. But not always.

It also means that if you're Hispanic you're basically a slightly tan European descended white guy.

So, Benjamin Cardozo's family was once from what was once Hispania. Therefor he is Hispanic. Just because he doesn't fit some folks preconceived notions of what "Hispanic" is, doesn't mean he isn't.


By that definition, everyone in the world is Middle Eastern.
 
2009-05-26 11:19:02 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I don't see why her being the first (or second) Hispanic Supreme Court Judge is a big deal. Alberto Gonzales was the first Hispanic Attorney General, and look what a disaster he turned out to be.


I wonder if he is still having trouble finding a job, and yeah I am too indifferent to go see myself.
 
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