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(Some Guy)   Trailer for the new "V" series. Hollywood still out of ideas, but at least it looks free of lens flare   (scifiwire.com) divider line 76
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2009-05-21 04:34:26 PM  
I am intrigued and would like to know more.
 
2009-05-21 04:45:25 PM  
I used to have nightmares as a kid after watching them peel their faces off.

/weren't these ones who required 2 males (at once!) to get pregnant?
 
2009-05-21 04:54:49 PM  
Isn't this the exact plot of "Earth: Final Conflict"?
 
2009-05-21 05:00:01 PM  
radiumsoup: I used to have nightmares as a kid after watching them peel their faces off.

Me too! Except I remember them peeling the underside of their arm off and there was something green underneath.

Crap. Is that Elizabeth Mitchell in the show? That means Juliet probably isn't coming back on "Lost". :(
 
2009-05-21 05:02:47 PM  
absoluteparanoia: Isn't this the exact plot of "Earth: Final Conflict"?

It's the basis of many stories, especially sci-fi. The benevolent-seeming stragers with a deadly ulterior motive is practically an archetype.
 
2009-05-21 05:20:35 PM  
absoluteparanoia: Isn't this the exact plot of "Earth: Final Conflict"?

I don't think Earth: Final Conflict even HAD a plot. sometime around season two they sorta/kinda found a plot that might have worked for 'em....but they just sort of dated and never consummated the relationship.

That said, the original plot points of V should be interesting indeed in the land of post 9/11 patriot act america that's terrified of its own shadow.
 
2009-05-21 05:40:55 PM  
Looks like it'll have a good first season and a huge cult following to keep it going for about 5 years with a few miniseries and webisodes. Same old 'Organized Religion is bad because it brainwashes the sheeple so rich powerful people can take over the world' story, though. Might be some good eye candy, though... I saw hawt chicks.
 
2009-05-21 05:46:14 PM  
Nice cans.
 
2009-05-21 05:46:31 PM  
coco ebert:
Crap. Is that Elizabeth Mitchell in the show? That means Juliet probably isn't coming back on "Lost".

The producers of "Lost" said they'd like to have her back for next season and are willing to work around her "V" schedule.
 
2009-05-21 05:46:55 PM  
It has Morena Baccarin so it can't be all that bad...
 
2009-05-21 05:47:50 PM  
The original V made it out to be like the aliens were Nazis.

Great show, none the less. First show we recorded on our fancy new Betamax.

/betcha didn't think *this* thread could be godwined
 
2009-05-21 05:49:20 PM  
cirby: coco ebert:
Crap. Is that Elizabeth Mitchell in the show? That means Juliet probably isn't coming back on "Lost".

The producers of "Lost" said they'd like to have her back for next season and are willing to work around her "V" schedule.


Actually, she's already finished filming "V" and she is listed as a guest star for next season (SPOILER ALERT!)
 
2009-05-21 05:49:52 PM  
coco ebert

Crap. Is that Elizabeth Mitchell in the show? That means Juliet probably isn't coming back on "Lost". :(

I'd love to clear the air regarding the subject but I don't wanna be a spoiler douche.

but yeah, Elizabeth Mitchell? I can thing of two big, sweaty reasons to watch this show. well, the third reason being that I love V.

 
2009-05-21 05:51:33 PM  
I didn't see a guinea pig.
 
2009-05-21 05:53:54 PM  
Tr0mBoNe: Looks like it'll have a good first season and a huge cult following to keep it going for about 5 years with a few miniseries and webisodes. Same old 'Organized Religion is bad because it brainwashes the sheeple so rich powerful people can take over the world' story, though. Might be some good eye candy, though... I saw hawt chicks.

I'd wait 'till we actually see more before making any assumptions. But if someone wanted to point out just how cult like the pro-torture/Dick Cheney crowd has become....well, I think it's a valid comparison to make.

Think about it. waterboarding, secret prisons, unrestricted wiretaps, FBI raids, DEA 'no knock' warrants, a culture that's increasingly hostile now that they're out of power, intolerance of anything different....there are republicans who STILL think it's ok to torture people and not contradict their pro-life beliefs. Tell me that isn't cult-ish behavior.
 
2009-05-21 05:56:16 PM  
radiumsoup:

/weren't these ones who required 2 males (at once!) to get pregnant?


That's Alien Nation (The Techtonese/Newcomers who dissolve in sea water). They have a third sex who looks male (The binaum) who is a catalyzer.
 
2009-05-21 06:02:41 PM  
blogs.coventrytelegraph.net

/unimpressed
 
2009-05-21 06:04:54 PM  
Weaver95: I'd wait 'till we actually see more before making any assumptions. But if someone wanted to point out just how cult like the pro-torture/Dick Cheney crowd has become....well, I think it's a valid comparison to make.

Think about it. waterboarding, secret prisons, unrestricted wiretaps, FBI raids, DEA 'no knock' warrants, a culture that's increasingly hostile now that they're out of power, intolerance of anything different....there are republicans who STILL think it's ok to torture people and not contradict their pro-life beliefs. Tell me that isn't cult-ish behavior.


Well, they pass the Kool-Aid Test.
 
2009-05-21 06:08:56 PM  
tansa: The original V made it out to be like the aliens were Nazis.

Great show, none the less. First show we recorded on our fancy new Betamax.

/betcha didn't think *this* thread could be godwined


Actually, I was expecting it. Alot.
 
2009-05-21 06:11:10 PM  
The writer pissed me off right out of the gat eby saying the opening sequence was right out of Independence Day. The original V did it, then came Independence Day.

God, it's like a guy who has to buy his own stuff back when the burglars have a yard sale.
 
2009-05-21 06:12:50 PM  
I recently had the opportunity to see the pilot episode through a survey. I wrote a short review and it got posted on Ain't It Cool News.

Link (new window)
 
2009-05-21 06:13:44 PM  
I own the original miniseries on DVD.

/no point
 
2009-05-21 06:16:29 PM  
Tjos Weel: I own the original miniseries on DVD.

/no point


For a long time I thought the new Battlestar Galatica would be a pointless rehash of the same old thing. But I was wrong about that - the show turned out to be very well done indeed.

So i'm going to give V the benefit of the doubt. I'll watch the show and judge it on it's own merits, rather than dismissing it out of hand as a pointless remake.
 
2009-05-21 06:18:10 PM  
Diogenes: It's the basis of many stories, especially sci-fi. The benevolent-seeming stragers with a deadly ulterior motive is practically an archetype.

www.bigqueer.com
 
2009-05-21 06:30:03 PM  
This is why the real aliens won't reveal their existence to the general human population. They know we would freak out and try to blow them up.
 
2009-05-21 06:33:09 PM  
Sgt. Pepper:

That was an awesome Twilight Zone episode...
 
2009-05-21 06:35:10 PM  
CowboyNinjaD: This is why the real aliens won't reveal their existence to the general human population. They know we would freak out and try to blow them up.

we don't like it when our fellow humans pop up unexpectedly let alone some slime dripping reptilian Cthulthu worshipping fungi from Yuggoth.
 
2009-05-21 06:39:12 PM  
It's been a long time, but in the original mini-series wasn't the first Visitor to be "outed" - Willie (played by Robert Englund)?

As I recall, he ran into a burning building to save some people (or something along those lines) and as a result his artificial skin came loose/got damaged and his human girlfriend (the waitress) noticed it. He turned out to be working with the Fifth Columnist and worked with the humans to try and stop the massacre.

And yes, the "V" in the original stood for both Visitor and Victory, as the first person to flash the V hand signal was an old Jewish Guy (a holocaust survivor) whose family was being targeted. All scientist were put under suspicion and were being treated as conspirators and collaborators who had kept several great things from mankind for a profit motive. Charges cooked up by the Visitors to eliminate the one group of people who had a chance of overcoming the visitors with technology of their own.

Lastly, I always thought the the main characters mom (who was the rich ol biddy who was only too eager to sell out to the visitors) was a thinly disguised Nancy Reagan. The actress who played that part looked and acted a lot like ol' Nancy.
 
2009-05-21 06:51:14 PM  
Oh, the first version of "V" was a cool show, until the exact moment it turned into a laughably bad crapfest.

I expect exactly the same thing this go-round.
 
2009-05-21 06:57:57 PM  
SVenus,

I wish I could disagree with you about the first go-round. Loved the show and then all of a sudden it just went "kiddie" (in that it seemed to have lowered the bar to reach out to the younger audience.

I do know the creator left the series when they started pushing the far too unplausible storylines and elements due to "creative differences."

That whole star-baby thing was the ridiculous end to what could have been an otherwise excellent show. They probably should have just done the miniseries and a wrap up mini-series and left it at that.
 
2009-05-21 06:58:43 PM  
RocketRod: I didn't see a guinea pig.

www.strangecelebrities.com
"Those aliens insert it into the wrong end anyway"
 
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2009-05-21 06:59:05 PM  
I also watched the original as a kid, and it gave me the creeps. But being into sci-fi, I watched it. I'll probably give this a shot until it starts sucking (like someone else mentioned).
 
2009-05-21 07:01:54 PM  
Let me guess, it's not a stand alone movie but the two-hour start of a series?
 
2009-05-21 07:12:44 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: Let me guess, it's not a stand alone movie but the two-hour start of a series?

Limited run mini-series (6?) with an outside chance to make it an ongoing crapfest.
 
2009-05-21 07:13:27 PM  
i can't wait i loved the show when i was a kid
 
2009-05-21 07:14:41 PM  
Repeat.

This was greenlit yesterday.

Link (new window)
 
2009-05-21 07:17:24 PM  
I was in college when the original was on, they had one of the early versions of what we now call "viral" ad campaigns. One day, I get on the subway, and there's all these cryptic posters showing smiling guys in bad sunglasses and jumpsuits and all it says is "The Visitors are our friends". These were up for a couple weeks when suddenly they all get a V spray-painted all over them, generated a lot of buzz, but people just thought it was vandalism, the papers and TV news eventually did a story about it NOT being vandalism... then the show with eating small rodents and flavin...

I thought it was stupid but there wasn't much other original SF available to watch at the time, what with only three networks.

Much preferred Alien Nation later. Great show.
 
2009-05-21 07:35:27 PM  
Pet Peeve #67:

Aliens with intergalactic space travel and super-advanced technology need a ridiculously complex plan to destroy humanity; couldn't just show up, use some super-weapon, and be done with it.
 
2009-05-21 07:39:37 PM  
V for Vendetta!


Great film if you haven't seen it.
 
2009-05-21 07:44:47 PM  
radiumsoup: I used to have nightmares as a kid after watching them peel their faces off.

/weren't these ones who required 2 males (at once!) to get pregnant?


That was Alien Nation.
 
2009-05-21 07:45:10 PM  
euphonicnight: Pet Peeve #67:

Aliens with intergalactic space travel and super-advanced technology need a ridiculously complex plan to destroy humanity; couldn't just show up, use some super-weapon, and be done with it.


What if "wiping out" humanity involved taking our natural resources and every available body as either food or cannon fodder for wars on other worlds?

That'd be boring though. Where are the hot chicks to stare at while I turn my brain off?
 
2009-05-21 07:46:00 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: Let me guess, it's not a stand alone movie but the two-hour start of a series?

that's how science fiction shows roll, biatch
 
2009-05-21 07:50:34 PM  
euphonicnight: Pet Peeve #67:

Aliens with intergalactic space travel and super-advanced technology need a ridiculously complex plan to destroy humanity; couldn't just show up, use some super-weapon, and be done with it.


You mean like "Independence Day". Blow up a city, move to the next. Pretty simple plan and works great when you a huge technological advantage. Though it's a big surprise that they hadn't developed antivirus software.
 
2009-05-21 07:50:50 PM  
My prediction: more lukewarm milquetoast broadcast network bilge for retarded people. But I could be wrong.
 
2009-05-21 08:10:39 PM  
I had a friend get his hands on a DVD set of the original "V" mini series a few years ago. We were in jr high when it first aired so we both thought the show was 6 kinds of awesome. After watching only the first 2 eps he warned me never to see it as an adult. It's waaaay too cheesey. Not even worthy of MST3K'ing.

I can only hope the remake corrects for this somehow. The sequel ("V : Final Battle" ?) was better IMO. Prolly even more cheese but at least it had an ending. Mike Ironsides at his badassed best.

/Magenta color copier toner saves the world !!!
 
2009-05-21 08:30:34 PM  
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Repeat.

This was greenlit yesterday.

Link (new window)


Report it instead of biatching (new window)
 
2009-05-21 08:31:35 PM  
Ron Moore created the template for a do-over (reboot) of an old stale series.

You basically tell the fans who think that the old series was real to fark off and jettison all the crap and focus on what modern audiences (who are pretty smart actually) will accept.

Star Trek (2009) was a pretty damn good flick.

Here's hoping they take some other mythologies and make them better.

DO YOU HERE ME SPACE 1999! UFO!!!!
 
2009-05-21 08:32:57 PM  
M Bison: I recently had the opportunity to see the pilot episode through a survey. I wrote a short review and it got posted on Ain't It Cool News.

Link (new window)


Torrent please
 
2009-05-21 08:34:58 PM  
Hooray! V is back! V is back! V is back!

/V fan
 
2009-05-21 08:41:23 PM  
lawboy87: It's been a long time, but in the original mini-series wasn't the first Visitor to be "outed" - Willie (played by Robert Englund)?

As I recall, he ran into a burning building to save some people (or something along those lines) and as a result his artificial skin came loose/got damaged and his human girlfriend (the waitress) noticed it. He turned out to be working with the Fifth Columnist and worked with the humans to try and stop the massacre.


It was freezer burn as I recall, but it was Robert Englund. His skin didn't peel off, but plenty of people were surprised that he could tolerate such temperature extremes.

In hindsight, his character was remarkably well-drawn compared to other minor characters of the day. Not only was he an introvert, but he couldn't speak English so well because he was supposed to be sent to a different country. End result: a quirky alien with plenty of opportunity for malaprops.
 
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