Cinaed: Mr. and Ms. Cheney can go out and fight Iran if they want.

Or invite them to go quail hunting. Mission Accomplished.

"If they believe the threat of military force is on the table that's frankly the only thing I've seen that convinces them they'd better get serious about sanctions," Elizabeth Cheney

The threat of military force is why they need the program in the first place.

Tell us, Liz, who's army will be fighting this war?

I Said:
/has heard the following uttered: "Walter Cronkite is the reason we lost Vietnam"

I always thought Giap was the reason we lost the vietnam war. Maybe they just haven't heard of him?

Danger Avoid Death: Cinaed: Mr. and Ms. Cheney can go out and fight Iran if they want.

Or invite them to go quail hunting. Mission Accomplished.

Ugh, I don't need birdshot to the face.

Lets see here...Dick Cheney who shunned the spotlight his whole career is now all over TV with he and his family attacking those who are against waterboarding. He claims that Obama is making us less safe, but only points to waterboarding and some vague apology nonsense.

Why do I think we are going to find out that Cheney is somehow directly responsible for waterboarding and probably for reasons other than obtaining actionable intelligence?

and this guy was our VP for 8 years, wow, I guess we all should consider ourselves lucky the whole world isn't a smoking crater right now and we only have a global recession...

PanicMan: SixPaperJoint: It truly must be stressful and embarrassing to see the fruition of your life's work and the ideals you held be so strongly challenged and refuted. Also to see the real place you will hold in the history books.

I don't know how he can stand the cognitive dissonance. He's clearly not stupid, but there's only so long you can insist that up is down before your intestines leap up into your skull and choke your brain.

That must be the reason he has come out so passionately to defend his actions. If he can sway the public perception to side with him in any degree it might help him sleep at night.

The Katrina aftermath interview where the guy said "Fark you, Mr. Cheney", the look on Cheney's face always made me believe that the Cheney inner-monologue was reciting the Few Good Men "You NEED me on that wall. You WANT me on that wall." Jack speech.

newebayer: Dick Cheney was a great vice president...



...yeah, and Pol Pot was a great Prime Minister.

Etchy333: Yes, Dick. That conspiracy is called the Democratic Party Americans.

It's the thing that got voted into office, because people lost faith in your party to lead their way out of a wet paper bag.

Better

bartink: Lets see here...Dick Cheney who shunned the spotlight his whole career is now all over TV with he and his family attacking those who are against waterboarding. He claims that Obama is making us less safe, but only points to waterboarding and some vague apology nonsense.

Why do I think we are going to find out that Cheney is somehow directly responsible for waterboarding and probably for reasons other than obtaining actionable intelligence?

You know, I'm all for waterboarding, it's an awesome sport...

...oh, you mean the "torture".

When did we become such pussies that "torture" means "heavy discomfort" and no longer "bodily harm".

Pussies.

All of you.

/end farksnark

What_do_you_want_now: When did we become such pussies that "torture" means "heavy discomfort" and no longer "bodily harm".

Have you been waterboarded?

Try it sometime, internet tough guy. I'm sure you would think its not torture, since you are sooooo strong and tough.

ghare: Etchy333: Yes, Dick. That conspiracy is called the Democratic Party Americans.

It's the thing that got voted into office, because people lost faith in your party to lead their way out of a wet paper bag voted for the party of handouts and government reliance.

Better

Much Better

The best part will be when he dies and discovers there's no heat in his freezing office as Satan's clark.

Dear Dick:

Eat a bag o' dicks.

Remember those playing cards?

You're the Jack, as in The JACK OFF.

Can't wait to see ya die in fire where you belong.

Fing DICK.

someonelse

No, he's still delusional. He's literally saying that the U.S. is the only country that doesn't want a nuclear-armed Iran. And his proof of that is that other countries do not share his perspective on how to deal with Iran. That's delusional. Equating him with truthers in this case is not inappropriate.

He's claiming that the European governments, in particular the UK, France, and Germany, are willing to live with a nuclear Iran, but rather than upsetting the US and some other countries by saying so they're willing to delay until it becomes a fait accompli. Similar things have gone on in international relations, and unlike the "thousands of squibs planted in the Twin Towers" crap, it is at least possible and plausible.

So yes, equating him with truthers is very inappropriate.

schattenteufel: newebayer: Dick Cheney was a great vice president...



...yeah, and Pol Pot was a great Prime Minister.

I hear Lucifer was a great angel too.

What_do_you_want_now: Oh hi. I'm a Fark Threadshiatter. I'm a coward and stupid and I represent the worst of America.

Come on over, I'll waterboard you and you can decide if it's torture.

schattenteufel: newebayer: Dick Cheney was a great vice president...



...yeah, and Pol Pot was a great Prime Minister.

2 million cambodians cant be wrong

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: schattenteufel: newebayer: Dick Cheney was a great vice president...



...yeah, and Pol Pot was a great Prime Minister.

2 million cambodians cant be wrong

Is that where they got all those skulls for the Lord Of the Rings movie?

bartink: What_do_you_want_now: When did we become such pussies that "torture" means "heavy discomfort" and no longer "bodily harm".

Have you been waterboarded?

Try it sometime, internet tough guy. I'm sure you would think its not torture, since you are sooooo strong and tough.

Actually, I've been "aggressively interrogated"

Let me explain what that is. You see, they tie you down in a chair, put a wet towel around your neck so you don't suffer any spinal problems and proceed to beat the living hell out of you to make you tell them whatever they want to know.

All this is done behind a one way mirror with the rest of your class watching, waiting for their turn.

You get 20 minutes or until you break. If you break, you get to try again. You can't pass until you make it the whole 20 minutes.

Yes, this class is real, and yes, members of the US military still take it when they've been trusted with information and are ordered to go into other countries.

No, I'm not spec-ops, I was a goddamn maintainer of intelligence equipment and had to go to some pretty remote places in my tenure.

So, how about you take getting beaten to a pulp for 20 minutes and then we'll talk about this "torture".

/remember, it's 80% mental, 20% physical

I think Jon Stewart said it best, when he pointed out that it isn't "tyranny" when the duly elected representatives, that outnumber you, are going forth implementing their policies - even if you happen to disagree with them.

It's simply called "Losing." Something the Democrats did a lot of from 1994 until 2006, and the Republicans weren't used to doing at all. Many of the Republican members of the House had never been in office prior to 1994 and had no idea what it was like to not be able to control the agenda with an iron fist (something Gingrich and DeLay, and yes, Pelosi, are doing). And they don't like it.

The sheer number of Republican retirements from the House and Senate are in large part representative of a party that had forgotten what it was like to not be able to control the agenda of government, and doesn't like it. The fact that the Democrats aren't listening to them, after the Democrats were flat-out ignored from 2000-2006, isn't tyranny or fascism. The fact that the Democrats are stripping away some of their policies, doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy to destroy America. It's simply that they won.

When things don't make sense- always, follow the money. If you don't see the money, you aren't looking deep enough.

"You can follow the action, which gets you good pictures. You can follow your instincts, which'll probably get you in trouble. Or, you can follow the money, which nine times out of ten will get you closer to the truth. "

my movie hero, Jake Gittes

I Said: has heard the following uttered: "Walter Cronkite is the reason we lost Vietnam"

Jesus Christ, Walter, why does everything have to be about Vietnam?

The Third Man: Not to mention black people, white people, Puerto Ricans, Samoans...

Anyone eligible to do the Humpty Dance is sick of GOP bullcrap, am I hearing you right?

What_do_you_want_now 2009-05-14 04:16:23 PM
ghare: Etchy333: Yes, Dick. That conspiracy is called the Democratic Party Americans.

It's the thing that got voted into office, because people lost faith in your party to lead their way out of a wet paper bag voted for the party of handouts and government reliance against the party of Wall Street handouts with no oversight and government subsidies of the oil and war industries.

Better

Much Better

Even better than that.

ghare: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: schattenteufel: newebayer: Dick Cheney was a great vice president...



...yeah, and Pol Pot was a great Prime Minister.

2 million cambodians cant be wrong

Is that where they got all those skulls for the Lord Of the Rings movie?

yup. also the skulls for the terminator movies

What_do_you_want_now: bartink: What_do_you_want_now: When did we become such pussies that "torture" means "heavy discomfort" and no longer "bodily harm".

Have you been waterboarded?

Try it sometime, internet tough guy. I'm sure you would think its not torture, since you are sooooo strong and tough.

Actually, I've been "aggressively interrogated"

Let me explain what that is. You see, they tie you down in a chair, put a wet towel around your neck so you don't suffer any spinal problems and proceed to beat the living hell out of you to make you tell them whatever they want to know.

All this is done behind a one way mirror with the rest of your class watching, waiting for their turn.

You get 20 minutes or until you break. If you break, you get to try again. You can't pass until you make it the whole 20 minutes.

Yes, this class is real, and yes, members of the US military still take it when they've been trusted with information and are ordered to go into other countries.

No, I'm not spec-ops, I was a goddamn maintainer of intelligence equipment and had to go to some pretty remote places in my tenure.

So, how about you take getting beaten to a pulp for 20 minutes and then we'll talk about this "torture".

/remember, it's 80% mental, 20% physical


Suuure you were. I know a liar when I see one.

Uchiha_Cycliste: EvilEgg: I Said: It's the GOP vs the liberals, the scientists, the elitists, europe, the middle east, the media, the unions, historians, education, and every other group on the planet.

I can't believe you left out the Illuminati

also the Mason and the Stonecutters.

As an Illuminati, I would prefer our organization not to be in the same text block as the Stonecutters.

We hate those guys.

Why is a nuclear armed Pakistan ok, but a nuclear armed Iran is bad?

What am I missing here?

ghare: What_do_you_want_now: Oh hi. I'm a Fark Threadshiatter. I'm a coward and stupid and I represent the worst of America.

Come on over, I'll waterboard you and you can decide if it's torture.

Oh, you mean I represent the demographic that would survive in the event of the apocalypse(nuclear, economic, etc.)"

Thanks, but no thanks. How about I beat you with a baseball bat in the kneecaps and we decide if what the mafia did was worse than psychological discomfort.

What_do_you_want_now: ghare: What_do_you_want_now: Oh hi. I'm a Fark Threadshiatter. I'm a coward and stupid and I represent the worst of America.

Come on over, I'll waterboard you and you can decide if it's torture.

Oh, you mean I represent the demographic that would survive in the event of the apocalypse(nuclear, economic, etc.)"

Thanks, but no thanks. How about I beat you with a baseball bat in the kneecaps and we decide if what the mafia did was worse than psychological discomfort.

Ohhh, Internet Tough Guy on the loose! And a liar!

This monkeyfarker should be tried for treason. Enough already.
I can't believe that his LESBIAN daughter would be seen in public with him after his attempts to legislate her equality away.

/best bumper sticker ever - "Impeach Bush, Torture Cheney"

ghare: What_do_you_want_now: bartink: What_do_you_want_now: When did we become such pussies that "torture" means "heavy discomfort" and no longer "bodily harm".

Have you been waterboarded?

Try it sometime, internet tough guy. I'm sure you would think its not torture, since you are sooooo strong and tough.

Actually, I've been "aggressively interrogated"

Let me explain what that is. You see, they tie you down in a chair, put a wet towel around your neck so you don't suffer any spinal problems and proceed to beat the living hell out of you to make you tell them whatever they want to know.

All this is done behind a one way mirror with the rest of your class watching, waiting for their turn.

You get 20 minutes or until you break. If you break, you get to try again. You can't pass until you make it the whole 20 minutes.

Yes, this class is real, and yes, members of the US military still take it when they've been trusted with information and are ordered to go into other countries.

No, I'm not spec-ops, I was a goddamn maintainer of intelligence equipment and had to go to some pretty remote places in my tenure.

So, how about you take getting beaten to a pulp for 20 minutes and then we'll talk about this "torture".

/remember, it's 80% mental, 20% physical


Suuure you were. I know a liar when I see one.

Yes, that's called a "reflection", little one.

You're cute, you know that. Not in the "cute 18yo girl" way, but the cute in the "retard" way.

What_do_you_want_now: Actually, I've been "aggressively interrogated"

Let me explain what that is. You see, they tie you down in a chair, put a wet towel around your neck so you don't suffer any spinal problems and proceed to beat the living hell out of you to make you tell them whatever they want to know.

All this is done behind a one way mirror with the rest of your class watching, waiting for their turn.

You get 20 minutes or until you break. If you break, you get to try again. You can't pass until you make it the whole 20 minutes.

Yes, this class is real, and yes, members of the US military still take it when they've been trusted with information and are ordered to go into other countries.

No, I'm not spec-ops, I was a goddamn maintainer of intelligence equipment and had to go to some pretty remote places in my tenure.

So, how about you take getting beaten to a pulp for 20 minutes and then we'll talk about this "torture".

/remember, it's 80% mental, 20% physical

So its torture then, right? You go on and on to talk about how difficult your interrogation session was, yet claim it wouldn't be torture?

Btw, there is a big difference between being "harshly interrogated" in a safe, clinical environment and having it done when you are in the hands of the enemy.

Surely you know that.

I read that as "Disney Channels FreeRepublic", and was very curious...

ghare: What_do_you_want_now: ghare: What_do_you_want_now: Oh hi. I'm a Fark Threadshiatter. I'm a coward and stupid and I represent the worst of America.

Come on over, I'll waterboard you and you can decide if it's torture.

Oh, you mean I represent the demographic that would survive in the event of the apocalypse(nuclear, economic, etc.)"

Thanks, but no thanks. How about I beat you with a baseball bat in the kneecaps and we decide if what the mafia did was worse than psychological discomfort.

Ohhh, Internet Tough Guy on the loose! And a liar!

I thought everyone knew how to use baseball bats. Maybe your parents should have had you do sports instead of ballet.

"We fail to recognize the fact that we're alone out there in terms of trying to achieve the objective of forcing the Iranians to give up their nuclear weapons," Cheney said

I love how he casual posits that such weapons exist. Pretty sneaky, sis.

What_do_you_want_now: Hi, I'm a lying cowardly sack of crap threadshiatter.

We all know bullshiat when we hear it snd see it. You are a coward and a liar.

What_do_you_want_now: bartink: What_do_you_want_now: When did we become such pussies that "torture" means "heavy discomfort" and no longer "bodily harm".

Have you been waterboarded?

Try it sometime, internet tough guy. I'm sure you would think its not torture, since you are sooooo strong and tough.

Actually, I've been "aggressively interrogated"

Let me explain what that is. You see, they tie you down in a chair, put a wet towel around your neck so you don't suffer any spinal problems and proceed to beat the living hell out of you to make you tell them whatever they want to know.

All this is done behind a one way mirror with the rest of your class watching, waiting for their turn.

You get 20 minutes or until you break. If you break, you get to try again. You can't pass until you make it the whole 20 minutes.

Yes, this class is real, and yes, members of the US military still take it when they've been trusted with information and are ordered to go into other countries.

No, I'm not spec-ops, I was a goddamn maintainer of intelligence equipment and had to go to some pretty remote places in my tenure.

So, how about you take getting beaten to a pulp for 20 minutes and then we'll talk about this "torture".

/remember, it's 80% mental, 20% physical

This the toughest internet tough guy in history.

What_do_you_want_now: Hi, I'm back lying and showing how full of shiat I am

Boooo-ring.

ghare 2009-05-14 04:22:35 PM
Suuure you were. I know a liar when I see one.

No, it's true! He and I used to surf professionally and one day while we were boinking the Swedish Bikini Team, he told me that very same story. In his modesty, he neglected to mention we single-handedly eliminated a grave threat to the United States from a highly-trained pack of robot ninjas using only a paperclip and a Bazooka Joe comic.

HotWingConspiracy: This the toughest internet tough guy in history.

I'm not military, but I'd love for some military guys to verify this dude. I have my doubts.

Either way, he is wrong.

bartink: So its torture then, right? You go on and on to talk about how difficult your interrogation session was, yet claim it wouldn't be torture?

Btw, there is a big difference between being "harshly interrogated" in a safe, clinical environment and having it done when you are in the hands of the enemy.

Surely you know that.

True, when something broke (not noses, those broke often enough and are fixable enough to just live thru) they did stop the training.

Doctors and other medical professionals are also on hand during these sessions with our unlawful combatants. You really think we're going to let one of them die with the information we want to know?

Lord_Baull: ghare 2009-05-14 04:22:35 PM
Suuure you were. I know a liar when I see one.

No, it's true! He and I used to surf professionally and one day while we were boinking the Swedish Bikini Team, he told me that very same story. In his modesty, he neglected to mention we single-handedly eliminated a grave threat to the United States from a highly-trained pack of robot ninjas using only a paperclip and a Bazooka Joe comic.

Oh, that was YOU guys! Well done!

Lord_Baull: No, it's true! He and I used to surf professionally and one day while we were boinking the Swedish Bikini Team, he told me that very same story. In his modesty, he neglected to mention we single-handedly eliminated a grave threat to the United States from a highly-trained pack of robot ninjas using only a paperclip and a Bazooka Joe comic.

You told me he used only his 18" penis.

Liar.

maniacbastard: Why is a nuclear armed Pakistan ok, but a nuclear armed Iran is bad?

What am I missing here?

the israel factor