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(Some Guy)   Quadriplegic wheelchair-bound Vietnam vet given $360 ticket for parking in handicapped space. They seen him rollin' and they hatin'   (kptv.com) divider line 141
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2009-05-12 10:39:41 PM
*drinks popcorn*
 
2009-05-12 10:42:14 PM
Wonder who he sold the valid placard to, and for how much. Unless he didn't, in which case this should be resolved in his favor. Not enough info (but plenty of precedent).
 
2009-05-12 10:46:53 PM
I thought they made permanent placards for people with clearly "not going to resolve, ever" mobility issues?

Outtaphase: Wonder who he sold the valid placard to, and for how much. Unless he didn't, in which case this should be resolved in his favor. Not enough info (but plenty of precedent).

Or that, I suppose. I've never heard of those cases but I suppose there's a market for everything...

Still, if you know the placard (or your plates for that matter) expire and you forget to renew it, I don't see how it's all that much more terrible a problem than forgetting to renew your registration sticker, and there's a fine for that. I suppose the fine is less?

But, guy should keep on top of his paperwork - his brain is fine, yes?
 
2009-05-12 10:57:11 PM
itazurakko: I thought they made permanent placards for people with clearly "not going to resolve, ever" mobility issues?

Probably dependent state-by-state. I just remember an expose they did around here for the black market in these things, and the crack-down that resulted. Can't accuse this guy of anything without more info than that.

FTA: Sgt. Dave Marzilli of the Washington County Sheriff's Office said it appears that his enforcement volunteers did the right thing.

I don't suppose they can comment on individual cases. Innocent until proven otherwise, he'll get his day, yadda yadda I'll shut up now.
 
2009-05-12 11:05:37 PM
If they look reeeeeeaaaaallllyyy carefully, they might see that there are some trees in that forest.
 
2009-05-12 11:31:59 PM
what a disabled parking enforcement team might look like:
megain.smugmug.com

i'd say these people need to get a life, but it seems they've already lived it, and are now content with just making everyone else's miserable. what a bunch of douchebags
 
2009-05-12 11:36:29 PM
In a fair and just world.. a judge would get word of this and throw it out, and have on hand a permanent placard for the guy and tell him "hey, next time use this".

..in a fair and just world..
 
2009-05-12 11:39:22 PM
Megain: what a bunch of douchebags

Agreed.. They are probably all tiny-dicked losers on a power trip, who failed their HOA board certification or something.

All they really had to do was issue the guy a warning to get the permit renewed within 10 days and the ticket would be dismissed.
 
2009-05-12 11:49:05 PM
markie_farkie: All they really had to do was issue the guy a warning to get the permit renewed within 10 days and the ticket would be dismissed.

The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.
 
2009-05-12 11:57:41 PM
RocketRod: markie_farkie: All they really had to do was issue the guy a warning to get the permit renewed within 10 days and the ticket would be dismissed.

The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.


you lost me. how exactly does it cost twice as much?
 
2009-05-13 12:01:16 AM
RocketRod: The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.

Had it been some healthy snot-nosed kid who "borrowed" granny's van with the placard, and taken advantage of the parking spot, definitely, slap his ass with a ticket.

If they are standing there while a guy who, 40 years ago had his life totally farked over while serving his country, rolls up in a wheelchair, and they STILL give him a ticket, then the parking enforcement people are total dickwads and deserve to be shipped off to Darfur, or Afghanistan, or any other shiathole for a couple years.
 
2009-05-13 12:06:42 AM
i575.photobucket.com
 
2009-05-13 12:25:44 AM
Megain: you lost me. how exactly does it cost twice as much?

Warnings are on one pad. Tickets are on the other.markie_farkie: If they are standing there while a guy who, 40 years ago had his life totally farked over while serving his country, rolls up in a wheelchair, and they STILL give him a ticket, then the parking enforcement people are total dickwads and deserve to be shipped off to Darfur, or Afghanistan, or any other shiathole for a couple years.

I'm with you on this guy's patriotism and level of service to his country... but that doesn't mean he's exempt from the laws of his community. Heck, he could be a total dickhead who's flaunting his Vet status to curry sympathy. Or I could just be playing Devil's Advocate.
 
2009-05-13 12:31:10 AM
RocketRod: I'm with you on this guy's patriotism and level of service to his country... but that doesn't mean he's exempt from the laws of his community.

Kinda that, yeah. I mean, he maybe doesn't need the full big ticket for FRAUD (which the hypothetical placard-swiping snot-nosed grandson would get) but surely he would get a ticket if his actual license plate registration ticket was expired, yeah? Or if he doesn't keep his lawn mowed, or any number of other things?

Seems to me, if he's in an area with the permanent tags he should just get 'em, but if not, well, all that sorta crap always needs renewals. I will say the penalty for not renewing it should be less than the normal cheater parker ticket though, sure.
 
2009-05-13 12:49:12 AM
"What are these spaces for? If they're not for me, who are they for, you know?"

They're for the elderly and overweight.
 
2009-05-13 12:50:14 AM
Megain: what a disabled parking enforcement team might look like:


i'd say these people need to get a life, but it seems they've already lived it, and are now content with just making everyone else's miserable. what a bunch of douchebags


You can just TELL that that biatch in the top row, 4th from the left, is a Republican coont.

/Despises old Republican coonts. And dicks.
 
2009-05-13 12:51:49 AM
markie_farkie: RocketRod: The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.

Had it been some healthy snot-nosed kid who "borrowed" granny's van with the placard, and taken advantage of the parking spot, definitely, slap his ass with a ticket.

If they are standing there while a guy who, 40 years ago had his life totally farked over while serving his country, rolls up in a wheelchair, and they STILL give him a ticket, then the parking enforcement people are total dickwads and deserve to be shipped off to Darfur, or Afghanistan, or any other shiathole for a couple years.


PRECISELY.
 
2009-05-13 12:55:30 AM
Fill out the proper paperwork. Period. No sympathy for anyone. Rules are rules.
 
2009-05-13 12:57:03 AM
yes who would ever hate on a disabled Vietnam vet in a wheel char?

upload.wikimedia.org


Oh right
 
2009-05-13 12:57:40 AM
FTFA:
"(It) kind of wrecked my day," Pike said. "What are these spaces for? If they're not for me, who are they for, you know?"


I thought they were for pregnant women.
 
2009-05-13 12:57:58 AM
jasonswick.com
disapproves.
 
2009-05-13 12:59:37 AM
The entire purpose of the parking permits is to identify someone who needs to be able to park there. If the person is already is in a wheelchair, and has an easily identifiable disability, only a douche who has to follow the law to the letter will give you a ticket. This case is a prime example.
 
2009-05-13 12:59:54 AM
in vietname he was patrolin' n trying to catch them VC riding dirty
 
2009-05-13 01:00:17 AM
Sounds like these idiots need to be in a disabled way for a while.. or permanently. And, given tickets for EVERYWHERE they park, no matter the location, including on their own property! See how they like it when the shoe is on the other foot - if they have a foot to put it on.
 
2009-05-13 01:00:26 AM
The sheriff's office said once a ticket has been written, a judge is the only person who can reduce the fine.

He needs to arrive in court with 40 or 50 of his close disabled friends and a reporter or two. The sheriff sounds like a dick.
 
2009-05-13 01:01:08 AM
I'm still trying to get my hands around the Sheriff's office not saying once they understood the situation "we'll make this right". Just makes them look like total asses.
 
2009-05-13 01:01:23 AM
It's only because the meter maid wanted to see a handicapped person make handicapped faces.
 
2009-05-13 01:02:16 AM
markie_farkie: RocketRod: The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.

Had it been some healthy snot-nosed kid who "borrowed" granny's van with the placard, and taken advantage of the parking spot, definitely, slap his ass with a ticket.

If they are standing there while a guy who, 40 years ago had his life totally farked over while serving his country, rolls up in a wheelchair, and they STILL give him a ticket, then the parking enforcement people are total dickwads and deserve to be shipped off to Darfur, or Afghanistan, or any other shiathole for a couple years.


When a parking officer sees a car without handicap status in a handicap spot, they write the ticket. I didn't RTFA, but I assume the guy was not immediately out there to stop them. Once they write that ticket, they can't take it back in today's technology.

/Parking Wars on A&E. I watch it too much, so I can pretend to be an expert.
 
2009-05-13 01:02:32 AM
FTA--The sheriff's office said once a ticket has been written, a judge is the only person who can reduce the fine.

Hopefully the judge he gets has an ounce of common sense and half a brain.
 
2009-05-13 01:02:37 AM
Godammit this isn't 'Nam there are RULES!
 
2009-05-13 01:05:24 AM
Perhaps he wasn't being as xian as they'd wanted.

i242.photobucket.com

Shine on you crazy diamond.
 
2009-05-13 01:05:54 AM
This whole "rules are rules" thing is just an excuse not to use the unique capability of a human brain to reason.
 
2009-05-13 01:06:46 AM
this will end badly PR-wise for these wanna-be cops...
 
2009-05-13 01:07:26 AM
As far as I understand law enforcement, fines are meant to keep people from doing something that they should not do, correct? You know, to deter problematic behavior, and to encourage doing the socially right thing, right?
Or do they look to fine anyone the can, logical or not, bureaucratic errors or not, in order to meet their quotas and make sure they stay employed?
Farking glorified tax collectors.
 
2009-05-13 01:07:31 AM
i48.photobucket.com

Do your worst, you sea devils. I'll make my stand with Old Freebie. You can crush me but you can't crush my spirit!" *is crushed* "Argh, my spirit
 
2009-05-13 01:08:18 AM
RocketRod: markie_farkie: All they really had to do was issue the guy a warning to get the permit renewed within 10 days and the ticket would be dismissed.

The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.


And now, thanks to this being on Fark, on the local news, and who knows where else on the internets, everybody (except for you, apparently) thinks the Portland Oregon parking enforcement and Sherrif's Department are worthless low-life scum-sucking douchebags. I think blowing off the 360 bucks would've been money well spent.
 
2009-05-13 01:09:30 AM
If I get a ticket for not renewing my tags, inspection, or whatever, it's perfectly fine.

If a disabled person gets a ticket for not renewing his disabled tags, it's an outrage?

Disabled != lazy. Tragic as his disability is, if he wants to use the parking space, he needs to have valid tags.
 
2009-05-13 01:13:34 AM
Well, serves him right for not winning the war.
 
2009-05-13 01:14:18 AM
www.dan.se
 
2009-05-13 01:15:04 AM
Aren't Vietnam vets supposed to go all postal and start shooting people when they get upset - PTSD and all that. Maybe this could be one of those times.

It's not like anyone would miss a few parking cops.
 
2009-05-13 01:16:45 AM
www.3click.tv
 
2009-05-13 01:19:36 AM
itazurakko: Seems to me, if he's in an area with the permanent tags he should just get 'em, but if not, well, all that sorta crap always needs renewals.

Why shouldn't he get permanents anyway? Shouldn't a note from a doctor that says "This man is paralyzed for life." be sufficient grounds to give him one?


itazurakko: Still, if you know the placard (or your plates for that matter) expire and you forget to renew it, I don't see how it's all that much more terrible a problem than forgetting to renew your registration sticker, and there's a fine for that. I suppose the fine is less?

Fines in many of these cases are horeshiat ways for the county to collect extra money from citizens. My roommate didnt get his newest reminder for his registration on his plates because the DMV shipped it to the wrong address. It's a $250 fine and they can threaten to tow your car away and then keep it for a penalty of $100 + a day. Sounds A LITTLE excessive for forgetting a sticker, no?

Megain: i'd say these people need to get a life, but it seems they've already lived it, and are now content with just making everyone else's miserable. what a bunch of douchebags

People like these are what make me curse humanity. "He's crippled from serving this country in a war that maybe we shouldn't have done in the first place."

"Yea! But the son of a biatch didn't fill out form ZX-75 section 12."

I hope there is a special place in hell for people like that.

RocketRod: Or I could just be playing Devil's Advocate.

Or as it's known on the intertubes..."trolling".
 
2009-05-13 01:21:40 AM
darth_shooter

Amen. Guaranteed one less cripple-hater in the world. Cripple-haters suck.
 
2009-05-13 01:21:42 AM
itazurakko: RocketRod: I'm with you on this guy's patriotism and level of service to his country... but that doesn't mean he's exempt from the laws of his community.

Kinda that, yeah. I mean, he maybe doesn't need the full big ticket for FRAUD (which the hypothetical placard-swiping snot-nosed grandson would get) but surely he would get a ticket if his actual license plate registration ticket was expired, yeah? Or if he doesn't keep his lawn mowed, or any number of other things?

Seems to me, if he's in an area with the permanent tags he should just get 'em, but if not, well, all that sorta crap always needs renewals. I will say the penalty for not renewing it should be less than the normal cheater parker ticket though, sure.


Aren't there LICENSE PLATES with the little handicapped logo on them for Oregon?

My ex has spina bifida, is in a wheelchair, very obviously handicapped. His van has these plates.

We never had to worry about a little hanger or sticker-
just the lazy-ass motherfarkers who'd park their regular (non-handicapped)-licensed, sticker/hangerless vehicles in the HANDICAPPED VAN ONLY spots...

/ I'd end up letting him out at the door of wherever we were going (often holding up traffic in the process...but what are ya gonna do?) and then go find a spot to park...sometimes at the other end of the parking lot.
 
2009-05-13 01:21:55 AM
why is some quadriplegic guy with crazy war flashbacks allowed to drive a car in the first place?
 
2009-05-13 01:22:06 AM
I love that these expire. Like they are going to get healed and not need it anymore. Do these have the pictures on it like ours do?
 
2009-05-13 01:24:14 AM
In Virginia, I believe you have to renew your handicap plates, and they're sticklers about giving them to multiple vehicles (unless you happen to be old.)

Knew a girl who due to birth defects had a spine that pretty much tried to eat itself, so was paraplegic and wheelchair bound. One of the laziest people I've ever seen in my entire life. Wouldn't even get handicap plates because she didn't want to go to the DMV, because apparently it was "alot of work", so instead she'd just let the tickets for handicap parking pile up and get them dismissed because she was handicapped. Didn't have a job, obviously, because of her condition, but at the very same time, I worked with another wheelchair bound guy at a movie theatre, and all he did was sit in the booth and sell tickets.
I knew her through school, also paid for by whatever government scholarship they give those people, and she was a drain on every single project I ever had the misfortune of working with her on. I sincerely hope that biatch failed out of school and got all of her aid taken away.
It just sucks, because there's not ANY way of calling a paraplegic lazy without looking like Zombie Hitler at a bar mitzvah.

My great-grandma on the other hand, was 88, and the DMV must have handed those things out like candy, because her two cars and two of her childrens' cars had a handicap plate.
 
2009-05-13 01:24:42 AM
markie_farkie: RocketRod: The paper a warning is printed on costs money. The ticket paper costs the same. Why would you want to spend twice as much money just to spare someone's feelings. That's not a municipal government's responsibility.

Had it been some healthy snot-nosed kid who "borrowed" granny's van with the placard, and taken advantage of the parking spot, definitely, slap his ass with a ticket.

If they are standing there while a guy who, 40 years ago had his life totally farked over while serving his country, rolls up in a wheelchair, and they STILL give him a ticket, then the parking enforcement people are total dickwads and deserve to be shipped off to Darfur, or Afghanistan, or any other shiathole for a couple years.


This.

I don't know whether the man has sold his placard or not, but for the love of Fark, he's a vet in a wheelchair, at least give him a warning first.
 
2009-05-13 01:25:25 AM
I want to know the exchange when he returned to find them (which means plural) waiting for him. I'm betting they were dickwads who treated him like crap and went out of their way to lord it over him.

If they could wait for him to return, they could wait to complete the ticket. If they given him a warning fixit ticket,and suggested that he get himself to the DMV, this wouldn't be in the news.

Parking enforcement people are rarely friendly, often power hungry. Every town in the US seems to have a jobsworth that licks his lips watching the second hand hit the 30min, 1, 2, or 4 hour mark just so they get to spooge a new ticket.
 
2009-05-13 01:25:27 AM
ilikeracecars: I love that these expire. Like they are going to get healed and not need it anymore. Do these have the pictures on it like ours do?

Our new president has brought Hope.
 
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