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(After Dawn)   Following in Fox's footsteps, Disney plans to remove all bonus content from rental DVDs. This'll be sure to curb piracy and improve sales   (afterdawn.com) divider line 69
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2009-05-03 07:11:48 PM
Because Morning Light, Confessions of a Shopaholic and Jonas Brothers: The Concert Experience needed deleted scenes or director's commentary.
 
2009-05-03 08:51:44 PM
People still rent DVDs?
 
2009-05-03 09:14:07 PM
Will they get rid of the 5 10 minutes of ads before the movie?

I didn't think so.
 
2009-05-03 09:40:36 PM
Why the outrage? Retailers can choose which version they want to buy, and they're cheaper without the extras.

Not like I care... I last rented a movie in any form back in 2001.
 
2009-05-03 10:35:54 PM
Tr0mBoNe: Why the outrage? Retailers can choose which version they want to buy, and they're cheaper without the extras.

Not like I care... I last rented a movie in any form back in 2001.


I don't rent either, but it's a cash grab to charge more for the extras. (They frame it as cutting a deal, but that's BS) Extras cost very little to add, outtakes and interviews don't cost much.

Really most extras are crap anyways, I never feel like looking at them after watching the movie. I've been getting (ahem) my movies without extras for years and don't feel like I've missed anything.
 
2009-05-03 10:50:11 PM
shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

Netflix counts.
 
2009-05-03 10:51:49 PM
shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?
 
2009-05-03 10:51:53 PM
I'm cool with this. For 90% of the movies I watch, I really don't give a frak about the bonus features. And for the movies where I do care, I usually buy them.

But yeah, kill the ads. Disney's about the worst on this.
 
2009-05-03 10:52:29 PM
pnjunction: Tr0mBoNe: Why the outrage? Retailers can choose which version they want to buy, and they're cheaper without the extras.

Not like I care... I last rented a movie in any form back in 2001.

I don't rent either, but it's a cash grab to charge more for the extras. (They frame it as cutting a deal, but that's BS) Extras cost very little to add, outtakes and interviews don't cost much.

Really most extras are crap anyways, I never feel like looking at them after watching the movie. I've been getting (ahem) my movies without extras for years and don't feel like I've missed anything.


Than aren't you happy? You can buy the cheaper dvd or rent it for even less.

/you can stick it to the man!
//by paying less
///teach them a lesson
 
2009-05-03 10:55:18 PM
Doesn't the increased cost of developing two different versions of the same movie on the same format defeat the purpose?
 
2009-05-03 10:58:16 PM
tchau: pnjunction: Tr0mBoNe: Why the outrage? Retailers can choose which version they want to buy, and they're cheaper without the extras.

Not like I care... I last rented a movie in any form back in 2001.

I don't rent either, but it's a cash grab to charge more for the extras. (They frame it as cutting a deal, but that's BS) Extras cost very little to add, outtakes and interviews don't cost much.

Really most extras are crap anyways, I never feel like looking at them after watching the movie. I've been getting (ahem) my movies without extras for years and don't feel like I've missed anything.

Than aren't you happy? You can buy the cheaper dvd or rent it for even less.

/you can stick it to the man!
//by paying less
///teach them a lesson


Chances are the cheaper DVD/Blu-ray will cost very close to the price of the current ones. And the ones with bonus content will cost more than the current ones.

/related: see food.
 
2009-05-03 10:59:12 PM
pnjunction: I don't rent either, but it's a cash grab to charge more for the extras. (They frame it as cutting a deal, but that's BS) Extras cost very little absolutely nothing to add and very little if anything to produce, outtakes and interviews don't cost much.

Many actors, directors, etc. now have put it in their contracts by the studios that they have to go into a recording studio for a commentary track so they'll have something to make you think you're getting a value with your four disc uber-special-elite-platinum-OMG I'm so special! edition DVD.
 
2009-05-03 11:01:47 PM
Sally Sparrow is screwed.
 
2009-05-03 11:05:57 PM
flaminio: I'm cool with this. For 90% of the movies I watch, I really don't give a frak about the bonus features. And for the movies where I do care, I usually buy them.

I could type 'this' but I get tired of doing that. So...TA-DA!
 
2009-05-03 11:07:13 PM
Harlan Ellison on how writers get screwed over on the whole "dvd extras" thing.

Hilarious
 
2009-05-03 11:14:39 PM
WFern: shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?


You're still on dial up, aren't you
 
2009-05-03 11:19:00 PM
PC LOAD LETTER
Sally Sparrow is screwed.

(Sigh) A man can dream...
 
2009-05-03 11:23:01 PM
I don't really see a problem with this. I like to watch bonus features, but I don't think I've ever watched them on a rented DVD (and I do still rent DVDs). The only problem I have is that none of the savings (which will be almost none) will be passed on to the consumer.
 
zz9
2009-05-03 11:25:15 PM
PC LOAD LETTER: Sally Sparrow is screwed.

Can I volunteer?
 
2009-05-03 11:30:24 PM
Disney's just trying to protect its products, since it knows it's losing money to the rental market already, and that things are only going to get worse as RedBox gets bigger.

With that said, I'm one of the many who resent film studios insisting that I experience their product their way, on their terms. I realized awhile back how pointless it is to own DVDs when you have a Netflix account -- the argument that, "I might want to watch this, and I won't be able to find a rental copy" flies right out the window. The whole "we're going to lecture you about piracy thing with every DVD you watch" has only made me more determined not to throw my money their way. Honestly, there are so many good OLD movies I need to catch up on that I really don't care about the new releases anymore, anyhow.
 
zz9
2009-05-03 11:31:04 PM
wookiemonster: Harlan Ellison on how writers get screwed over on the whole "dvd extras" thing.

Hilarious


I like Harlan, and I met him on the picket line and he was as nice as pie but...

Writers get treated like crap because they have no power. They have no power because they have no fanbase. They have no fanbase because most of the general public have no idea who wrote their favourite movie.

Look at a group staring at the posters outside a multiplex trying to decide what movie to see.
"That stars Christian Bale, he fantastic! Let's see that one!"
or
"That was directed by James Cameron, let's see that one"

Ever see anyone say "That was written by so and so, lets see that"? (Writer/Directors like Woody Allen and Tarrenteno don't count)

Until writers get recognition and have people wanting to see what they make Hollywood will carry on treating them as disposable irritations in the movie making process.

Sorry Harlan, you should be demanding you get featured on DVDs.
 
2009-05-03 11:32:20 PM
pnjunction:I don't rent either, but it's a cash grab to charge more for the extras. (They frame it as cutting a deal, but that's BS) Extras cost very little to add, outtakes and interviews don't cost much.


It's also a cash grab in that people are now less likely to buy secondhand copies from the rental places. And the presumably more likely to buy a new copy at the store.
 
2009-05-03 11:35:58 PM
zz9: wookiemonster: Harlan Ellison on how writers get screwed over on the whole "dvd extras" thing.

Hilarious

I like Harlan, and I met him on the picket line and he was as nice as pie but...

Writers get treated like crap because they have no power. They have no power because they have no fanbase. They have no fanbase because most of the general public have no idea who wrote their favourite movie.

Look at a group staring at the posters outside a multiplex trying to decide what movie to see.
"That stars Christian Bale, he fantastic! Let's see that one!"
or
"That was directed by James Cameron, let's see that one"

Ever see anyone say "That was written by so and so, lets see that"? (Writer/Directors like Woody Allen and Tarrenteno don't count)

Until writers get recognition and have people wanting to see what they make Hollywood will carry on treating them as disposable irritations in the movie making process.

Sorry Harlan, you should be demanding you get featured on DVDs.


You are correct. Most average people today think that the actors write their own lines. One of the reasons why movies today suck ass, is because on big blockbusters, there might be four or more writers.
 
2009-05-03 11:38:11 PM
WFern: shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?



A TV-out? What is that?
 
2009-05-03 11:41:26 PM
Honestly, there are so many good OLD movies I need to catch up on that I really don't care about the new releases anymore, anyhow.

Heck even the new releases are easy too, unless you really must see it right now. On Netflix when something is upcoming you put it on your list as a save, presumably you move higher in the queue for when it gets released. If you do see a "short wait" message, you simply move one of your older choices up that you can get now, and wait until the new release comes to you next.

Presumably if you are patient enough to not see something in theatres, you can stand to wait 2 more weeks for the demand to settle down.
 
2009-05-03 11:46:16 PM
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2009-05-03 11:48:56 PM
Because pirates never include special features, am I right?
 
2009-05-03 11:49:52 PM
I rent because my grandmother has bought me a $50 blockbuster gift card every christmas for as long as I can remember. I'd feel like a bastard not using it and she likes to hear about what movies I watch with her present.
 
2009-05-03 11:55:26 PM
WFern: shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?


Amazingly enough, my laptop has a VGA out and my surround sound system has a computer input.

I watch good quality movies on my TV through my computer.

Technology is awesome, Luddite!
 
2009-05-04 12:06:56 AM
considering most of the DVDs that i buy are used ones from blockbuster...i'm really not getting a kick out of this
 
2009-05-04 12:09:16 AM
but it's got rapidplay - where it goes straight into 20 minutes of advertisements then plays the movies! what a great feature!
 
2009-05-04 12:12:23 AM
As has been said before, most of the bonus content is crap anyway.

You used to get commentaries like Fight Club - Fincher, Norton, Carter, Pitt - and The Thing - Russell, Carpenter. Now they don't even get people you recognize. It's all "amazing commentary from the editor and the key grip!" Maybe some publicity garbage thrown on top.

The worse is added content to the movie itself. Some Director's Cuts are better than the original films - but a lot more had content cut for good reason. They at least could give you the original release along with it, but they realize now how badly their farking up your favorite movies so they make sure to gouge you now if you want the unaltered version.
 
2009-05-04 12:23:57 AM
The Angry Hand of God: WFern: shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?

Amazingly enough, my laptop has a VGA out and my surround sound system has a computer input.

I watch good quality movies on my TV through my computer.

Technology is awesome, Luddite!


My laptop has an HDMI cable, 1 cable hi def straight to the LCD. love it
 
2009-05-04 12:24:27 AM
WFern: What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?

Nah negro, stealing 1080P blu-ray rips and then burning them to play on my PS3.
 
2009-05-04 12:28:35 AM
Cathedralmaster: As has been said before, most of the bonus content is crap anyway.

You used to get commentaries like Fight Club - Fincher, Norton, Carter, Pitt - and The Thing - Russell, Carpenter. Now they don't even get people you recognize. It's all "amazing commentary from the editor and the key grip!" Maybe some publicity garbage thrown on top.

The worse is added content to the movie itself. Some Director's Cuts are better than the original films - but a lot more had content cut for good reason. They at least could give you the original release along with it, but they realize now how badly their farking up your favorite movies so they make sure to gouge you now if you want the unaltered version.


Fight Club is my favourite example for commentary. Spinal Tap is another excellent purchase - I think the commentary is even funnier than the movie.

I don't usually care about the deleted scenes because I'm assuming they were cut for a good reason. And most behind the scenes featurettes are 75% movie clips anyways.

But I'll always trust a Cameron Crowe flick. I love his commentary and the Almost Famous Bootleg Cut is full of awesomeness, including fantastic commentary with his mom. It's one of the few great movies made even better by the extended version, but very understandable why there was a lot of deleted scenes.
 
2009-05-04 12:30:41 AM
I don't rent movies to see the bonus content.
 
2009-05-04 12:34:11 AM
Is there a snigglet for the time spent between putting a DVD in and the actual start of the movie?
 
2009-05-04 12:43:11 AM
ferro_man: considering most of the DVDs that i buy are used ones from blockbuster...i'm really not getting a kick out of this

Yeah, but they're only $7.99, $8.99, right?
 
2009-05-04 12:44:40 AM
Gangway Fathead: Is there a snigglet for the time spent between putting a DVD in and the actual start of the movie?

cine-beerrun
 
2009-05-04 12:50:57 AM
This kind of angers me, except I can't remember the last time I rented a Disney movie. Before DVD was common, I think. But, in general, I like the option of watching extras.

The extras on movies like LotR are nerdy enough for me to enjoy. And, while sometimes commentary tracks are a POS, sometimes they're just amazing. The characters Merry and Pippen play a drinking game on their commentary of the LotR, all of the commentary tracks on Firefly are just fun to listen to, the commentary on BSG adds to the episodes as well as the experience, the commentary on the first Pirates of the Caribbean (the track with Johnny Depp) is worth a few chuckles as well.

The science commentary track on the movie Sunshine is just purely entertaining education.

And, for people like me that actually own a few rental DVDs because they get sold cheaper, this is a stupid thing to do. If I think a DVD isn't worth $20, but is worth $5 with the extras, I'll wait for the sale and buy the cheap copy. But, if it's just a striped down bare version that I can probably see on Hulu in the next ten years then, well, I'm not even going to bother picking it up.

/Fox and Disney just seem to love shooting themselves in the feet with every shotgun they can find
 
2009-05-04 01:03:19 AM
I have yet to see a movie where the bonus content was really worth it anyways.

Most of the time, the deleted scenes are stupid and were cut for a reason, and I don't care what the director thinks about the lighting and the cinematography.
 
2009-05-04 01:36:50 AM
WFern: shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?


xbmc anyone?
 
2009-05-04 01:47:52 AM
DeathByGeekSquad: Because pirates never include special features, am I right?

That's what I'm saying!
 
2009-05-04 02:49:53 AM
WFern: shanrick: People still rent DVDs?

What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?


Isn't that what all the Internet wanna-be rebels do?
 
2009-05-04 03:49:26 AM
WFern: What's your alternative? Stealing compressed, shoddy ripoffs online and watching them on your computer?

Hahaha, you download compressed ones?

How's dialup working for you?
 
2009-05-04 03:50:19 AM
Well, to be fair, video store customers don't -want- benefits.

Me/Blockbuster employee: Sir, I know it sounds odd but you can -purchase- this very movie you want to rent for less then the rental price.
Customer: No thank you.
My brain: I hate you for being stupid.
 
2009-05-04 03:53:31 AM
Pave_the_Planet I have yet to see a movie where the bonus content was really worth it anyways.

Fair point. I watched a DVD of one of the mindless Lethal Weapon movies. One of the deleted scenes was two seconds of Glover's bare torso. Yeah...um. Ok.


Most of the time, the deleted scenes are stupid and were cut for a reason, and I don't care what the director thinks about the lighting and the cinematography.


For the latter, I would only if the director was interesting, like Kevin Smith. For the former, I watched the deleted scenes for 'Dungeons and Dragons'. If they had been left in, the movie would have made sense, instead of being ninety minutes of hysterical babbling. Very odd how they carefully removed all the logic (not much but it was there) from the movie.
 
2009-05-04 04:06:19 AM
the Jonas Brothers premium DVD, with digital copy and bonus features, has a MSRP of $39.99 USD while the single disc rental version will have the movie only, and has an MSRP of $29.99 USD.


What the fark? When was the last time anyone had the balls to try selling any DVD for more than $20?

It's complete bullshiat to say they're offering a stripped down version for less money. They're offering a stripped down version for the same money (more if those MSRPs are correct) and charging $10 more for the same shiat they've been putting out for the past decade.fark Disney. fark the Disney Vault. fark those Nazi-sympathizing, HUAC-cooperating, Song-of-the-South-conveniently-forgetting pieces of shiat.

The day Mickey Mouse enters the public domain will be one of the truly great days in history.
 
2009-05-04 04:44:46 AM
CowboyNinjaD: the Jonas Brothers premium DVD, with digital copy and bonus features, has a MSRP of $39.99 USD while the single disc rental version will have the movie only, and has an MSRP of $29.99 USD.


What the fark? When was the last time anyone had the balls to try selling any DVD for more than $20?

It's complete bullshiat to say they're offering a stripped down version for less money. They're offering a stripped down version for the same money (more if those MSRPs are correct) and charging $10 more for the same shiat they've been putting out for the past decade.fark Disney. fark the Disney Vault. fark those Nazi-sympathizing, HUAC-cooperating, Song-of-the-South-conveniently-forgetting pieces of shiat.

The day Mickey Mouse enters the public domain will be one of the truly great days in history.


Yep. And it will happen the day after the day on which Pansy Division performs "The Cocksucker Club" unedited on an live episode of "The 700 Club".
 
2009-05-04 05:27:49 AM
CowboyNinjaD: The day Mickey Mouse enters the public domain will be one of the truly great days in history.

Never happen. They have enough money and lobbyists that the corporate whores in Congress will simply keep extending the time limit for copyright law.
 
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