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(Chicago Breaking News)   Year-long drug investigation on campus yields 21 arrests, 6.5 oz. of weed. That's some fine police work there, Lou   (chicagotribune.com ) divider line
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2009-05-02 10:08:00 AM  
Police seized 180 grams of marijuana, traces of cocaine, anti-anxiety pills, $3,100, two vehicles, three flat-screen televisions and two laptop computers, Acree said.

so basically the cops spend a couple hundred thousand dollars so that they could charge 21 college kids with a misdemeanor charge of possession. Oh, and confiscate themselves a couple of nice new televisions for themselves.

oh yes. that counts as a wonderful success in the war on drugs. Indeed - college kids will now completely stop drinking and smoking pot everywhere in the world because of this arrest.
 
2009-05-02 10:15:49 AM  
manufacturing and delivering marijuana

Manufacturing. Pick it, dry it, roll it up. Hey! just like tobacco!
 
2009-05-02 10:16:12 AM  
Tax Money spent: $1,670,000
Manpower Wasted: 12,100 hours
Lives Ruined: 21

Benefit to Society: WORTHLESS

/Statistics taken directly from ny butt
 
2009-05-02 10:26:41 AM  
That drug operation sounds smaller than the ones that supplied my high school of less than 1,000 students (we did love our weed though).

The only effect this had is that a few hundred people will have to switch to their backup dealer.
 
2009-05-02 10:30:20 AM  
Weaver95: war on drugs

Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.
 
2009-05-02 10:31:56 AM  
Luckily, the police were well prepared to deal with those 21 college students:

www.ci.san-marcos.tx.us
 
2009-05-02 10:37:31 AM  

eddyatwork: Weaver95: war on drugs

Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.


And you'll not be eligible to enlist in the armed forces without a waiver as well. But it's lax morals that create criminality, not society...
 
2009-05-02 10:42:30 AM  

eddyatwork: Weaver95: war on drugs

Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.


Ain't life in this country great?
 
2009-05-02 10:45:19 AM  
Oh and let's not forget the big thing. Employment applications. Even a misdemeanor limits job choice.
 
2009-05-02 11:10:10 AM  
They find 180 grams of weed between 21 people and they suspect some of them are "manufacturing" it? They must be growing very, very tiny little marijuana plants.
 
2009-05-02 11:11:32 AM  

Occam's Chainsaw: And you'll not be eligible to enlist in the armed forces without a waiver as well. But it's lax morals that create criminality, not society...


It's ridiculous. Someone is not moving down the Path O' Life as they should, so lets remove all the help for getting them back on! Yes! Brilliant plan.
 
2009-05-02 11:18:10 AM  

Epsilon: They find 180 grams of weed between 21 people and they suspect some of them are "manufacturing" it? They must be growing very, very tiny little marijuana plants.


Indeed...21 people with just under 9 grams each and 'traces of cocaine'?

Where I come from that's not a major drug operation, that's a party.
 
2009-05-02 12:01:09 PM  
img1.fark.net

The cops wanted the budget. Not the arrests.
 
2009-05-02 12:03:08 PM  
CPT Ethanolic

did you notice that cop with the m4 doesn't have a clip in his gun? maybe it's a training thing, but I thought it was funny
 
2009-05-02 12:03:49 PM  

pnjunction: That drug operation sounds smaller than the ones that supplied my high school of less than 1,000 students (we did love our weed though).

The only effect this had is that a few hundred people will have to switch to their backup dealer.


Word on the street is that there is some money to be made at U of I.
 
2009-05-02 12:04:10 PM  
Thank God. Our long national nightmare is over. I feel so much safer now.
 
2009-05-02 12:04:22 PM  
I bet you would find just as many drugs and make as many arrests just going door to door in a random dorm and searching every room.

That is not much more than a quarter per person, and more than likely one or two people had most of it.

And don't they have to prove that drug money bought those tvs and laptops before they seize them? Flatscreens and laptops are pretty standard for college students and in no way indicate drug wealth. Hell a nice flatscreen and laptop are worth more than all the drugs they found combined.
 
2009-05-02 12:04:27 PM  

Control_this: The cops wanted the budget. Not the arrests.


Aren't stats grand? Hey we busted 21 drug dealers in a yearlong operation. Show us the money!


Is it too hard for the cops to go after the higher ups that provided the kids with that 6.5oz of weed?

 
2009-05-02 12:05:07 PM  
6.5 oz of weed between 21 students.

What's that... like less than a week's worth of pot?
 
2009-05-02 12:05:36 PM  
Pot! Small amount of pot!

i232.photobucket.com
 
2009-05-02 12:05:47 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: eddyatwork: Weaver95: war on drugs

And you'll not be eligible to enlist in the armed forces without a waiver as well. But it's lax morals that create criminality, not society...


Hmmm, all this time I thought it was bad laws that created criminals?
 
2009-05-02 12:06:11 PM  

kunf: CPT Ethanolic

did you notice that cop with the m4 doesn't have a clip in his gun? maybe it's a training thing, but I thought it was funny


Looks like the MP5 doesn't have a mag either...
 
2009-05-02 12:07:59 PM  

skinink: Control_this: The cops wanted the budget. Not the arrests.

Aren't stats grand? Hey we busted 21 drug dealers in a yearlong operation. Show us the money!

Is it too hard for the cops to go after the higher ups that provided the kids with that 6.5oz of weed?


If they solved the problem, they would no longer be able to justify their existence.
 
2009-05-02 12:09:48 PM  
"...and then the cops smoked the weed."
 
2009-05-02 12:09:55 PM  
"I would hope it would send a message to students that if you are selling drugs, there is a good chance you're going to get caught," Acree said.

UIUC has over 30k undergrads and another 10k of grad students.

21/40000 does not equal a good chance.
 
2009-05-02 12:10:22 PM  
farm4.static.flickr.com

Poor little college kids....
 
2009-05-02 12:10:54 PM  
I must be insane because it seems like fark is the only place that people are on the right side of the WOD. It is truly farking insane that this country has let it get this out of hand. We have got to get this shiat under control. One of the biggest problems in our little country right now IMHO.
 
2009-05-02 12:11:04 PM  

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: kunf: CPT Ethanolic

did you notice that cop with the m4 doesn't have a clip in his gun? maybe it's a training thing, but I thought it was funny

Looks like the MP5 doesn't have a mag either...



And that battering ram is totally not even loaded either. It's SWAT LARPers
 
2009-05-02 12:11:35 PM  

skinink: Control_this: The cops wanted the budget. Not the arrests.

Aren't stats grand? Hey we busted 21 drug dealers in a yearlong operation. Show us the money!
Is it too hard for the cops to go after the higher ups that provided the kids with that 6.5oz of weed?


It's not hard, but it's easier to shake down 21 kids and fine them 300 bucks each than it is to take down the large drug operations that fund the police force as a whole. If they are TOO effective, it becomes less profitable for both the police AND the drug dealers.

Just don't let it ever fall under any kind of OFFICIAL regulation. Then you'd REALLY see a reduction in drug use and related crime.
 
2009-05-02 12:11:51 PM  
This does bring up a lot of issues.
The number one is way to waste my tax dollars.

who polices the police is often asked here human rights folks thats who but we ignore what they say while i have never seen them wrong ever.

They said joe are pile of shiat the sheriff in phoenix kill people in there cells and the city has had to pay the victims of his crimes.
No one has done shiat.

The amount of laws we have to live under is a direct result of failure to do the right thing.
If you sell stale bread we will pass a law on how long it can stay on the shelf bread seller will cry its not fair but bread sellers failed to do the right thing.

when the people who police the police do there job and you fail to do yours you get what you get.

When cops waste your tax money you cry for more cops to fight the crime they dont get.

But that just gets you more cops not doing the right thing.
 
2009-05-02 12:11:57 PM  
Crap, I could look investigate the cushions of my couch right now and yield 6.5 ounces of weed.
 
2009-05-02 12:12:38 PM  
Good! Now throw them all in prison with the rapists and murderers. Here, take my credit card, if that will help.
 
2009-05-02 12:12:55 PM  

Il Douchey: Tax Money spent: $1,670,000
Manpower Wasted: 12,100 hours
Lives Ruined: 21

Benefit to Society: WORTHLESS

/Statistics taken directly from ny butt


Those statistics sound right to me.

Imagine being a grown man, who is in law enforcement in this world where there is so much crime and injustice. And you spend your whole life plotting, planning, doing surveillance, wasting millions of tax-payer dollars, capturing, jailing, prosecuting, and destroying the life of a farking 18 year old who just wants to smoke some weed and play x-box in his farking dorm room.

And if you are not doing that, you are handing out parking/speeding tickets.

You must wake up everyday, look at your moustached face in the mirror, and say gotdamn - I am a farking douchebag, I might as well blow my own farking brains out.

But then again - in reference to the douche-bag part - that's why they went into "law enforcement" in the first place. And they wonder why they have such low respect with the public.
 
2009-05-02 12:13:49 PM  

bacongood: 21/40000 does not equal a good chance.


Explain to me how you concluded that there were 40000 people selling drugs there?

Look, mate. I don't agree with this whole drug war bullshiat, I'm just reminding you to use proper arguments. You can't fight bs with bs, it discredits the side you are on.
 
2009-05-02 12:14:12 PM  

eddyatwork


Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.


Preface: I am neither anti- nor pro-marijuana; I am ambivalent.

Here is what I don't understand: people know what the laws are at the moment, and what can happen to them if they get caught, yet they engage in activities that can have enormous negative effects on their lives. That seems like bad risk management, or at least a case of mismatched priorities.
 
2009-05-02 12:16:41 PM  
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
2009-05-02 12:18:09 PM  
http://www.hulu.com/watch/68615/family-guy-bag-of-weed


/puff, puff, pass
 
2009-05-02 12:18:51 PM  
I'm sure pot has a long life span in a college. People just keep it around to look at it.
 
2009-05-02 12:19:50 PM  
In the end the college is going to lose money. If students are forced to go off campus to get drugs, it is less likely that the drug dealer is going to spend some of his drug cash on campus goods because he wouldn't t be a student.
Also, 6.5 ounces is about what 1 pothead would smoke in 6 weeks. What a farking waste.
 
2009-05-02 12:21:14 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: eddyatwork

Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.


Preface: I am neither anti- nor pro-marijuana; I am ambivalent.

Here is what I don't understand: people know what the laws are at the moment, and what can happen to them if they get caught, yet they engage in activities that can have enormous negative effects on their lives. That seems like bad risk management, or at least a case of mismatched priorities.


All the negative effects are artificially created by its illegality.

I'd go on but I'm tired.

Just take a look at alcohol prohibition. It's the same situation.
 
2009-05-02 12:22:29 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: eddyatwork

Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.


Preface: I am neither anti- nor pro-marijuana; I am ambivalent.

Here is what I don't understand: people know what the laws are at the moment, and what can happen to them if they get caught, yet they engage in activities that can have enormous negative effects on their lives. That seems like bad risk management, or at least a case of mismatched priorities.


true, but it's called civil disobedience. people don't believe in drug laws, so they refuse to follow them, even if there is a huge risk involved. And yes weed is important enough to risk going to jail, because it is symbolic of the in appropriate control the government has over our lives. If someone wants to smoke a herb which alleviates pain and is by all accounts about as dangerous as alcohol, then that is their right and the government has no place telling them they can't.
 
2009-05-02 12:25:55 PM  
Anyone see that reality show (ala COPS) on the DEA?

My very first thought was they rounded up a bunch of gung-oh douchebag security guards and gave them weapons and authority.

"We need automatic weapons because the suspect is armed and on drugs" ...

*cut to the fat stoner with cheetos dust all over his wife beater. He's cleaning an old hunting rifle in front of the TV*
 
2009-05-02 12:28:15 PM  

JRoo: Englebert Slaptyback: eddyatwork

Don't forget that if you are convicted of possessing or selling drugs, you'll probably lose eligibility for financial aid. Lovely. Take away a major path to improving your lot in life because of a joint.


Preface: I am neither anti- nor pro-marijuana; I am ambivalent.

Here is what I don't understand: people know what the laws are at the moment, and what can happen to them if they get caught, yet they engage in activities that can have enormous negative effects on their lives. That seems like bad risk management, or at least a case of mismatched priorities.

All the negative effects are artificially created by its illegality.

I'd go on but I'm tired.

Just take a look at alcohol prohibition. It's the same situation.


that's what folks who give that excuse refuse to understand. YES, they refuse to understand it. There is no other interpretation. Prohibition creates the black market which leads to corrupt business dealings.
Making weed illegal leads to crime!!
 
2009-05-02 12:28:58 PM  

JRoo


All the negative effects are artificially created by its illegality.


That was actually the point. The laws are what they are*, and people know that a drug conviction can hose them up thoroughly for a very long time, yet they willingly put themselves at risk of exactly that. This differs from other legally risky behavior: even a speeding ticket for going 120mph will eventually stop affecting the driver's life.


* Yes, they can be changed; I'm talking about the laws as they stand right now, as in the context of TFA.
 
2009-05-02 12:29:03 PM  

quierosteak: And yes weed is important enough to risk going to jail, because it is symbolic of the in appropriate control the government has over our lives. If someone wants to smoke a herb which alleviates pain and is by all accounts about as dangerous as alcohol, then that is their right and the government has no place telling them they can't.


Three generations of Americans have little respect for the law because of the absurdity of the war on marijuana. How can you grow up in a nation where everyone smokes pot, and not laugh at pathetic Johnny Law waggling his nightstick in an impotent rage over it?

/inappropriate
 
2009-05-02 12:31:52 PM  
Tissot: Imagine being a grown man, who is in law enforcement in this world where there is so much crime and injustice. And you spend your whole life plotting, planning, doing surveillance, wasting millions of tax-payer dollars, capturing, jailing, prosecuting, and destroying the life of a farking 18 year old who just wants to smoke some weed and play x-box in his farking dorm room. And if you are not doing that, you are handing out parking/speeding tickets. You must wake up everyday, look at your moustached face in the mirror, and say gotdamn - I am a farking douchebag, I might as well blow my own farking brains out. But then again - in reference to the douche-bag part - that's why they went into "law enforcement" in the first place. And they wonder why they have such low respect with the public.

Heynow, just to clarify, I am not anti-police; they don't make the laws and some are working to end the problem (new window). Blame politics and special interest groups (read:the alcohol industry)
 
2009-05-02 12:32:04 PM  
6.5 oz after it makes it to evidence was probably like 65 lbs before
 
2009-05-02 12:32:17 PM  
Marijuana fights lung cancer.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Marijuana fights brain cancer.
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/brain-cancer/news/20090401/marijuana-chemi​cal-may-f i ght-brain-cancer

Marijuana fights breast cancer.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312132,00.html

Marijuana may stop all cancer.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090401181217.htm

Marijuana unlikely to cause cancer.
http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20000508/marijuana-unlikel​y-to-caus e -cancer
 
2009-05-02 12:33:55 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: JRoo

All the negative effects are artificially created by its illegality.


That was actually the point. The laws are what they are*, and people know that a drug conviction can hose them up thoroughly for a very long time, yet they willingly put themselves at risk of exactly that. This differs from other legally risky behavior: even a speeding ticket for going 120mph will eventually stop affecting the driver's life.


* Yes, they can be changed; I'm talking about the laws as they stand right now, as in the context of TFA.


Weed can be super fun and the chances of getting caught are incredibly small.
 
2009-05-02 12:36:21 PM  

boobsrgood: quierosteak: And yes weed is important enough to risk going to jail, because it is symbolic of the in appropriate control the government has over our lives. If someone wants to smoke a herb which alleviates pain and is by all accounts about as dangerous as alcohol, then that is their right and the government has no place telling them they can't.

Three generations of Americans have little respect for the law because of the absurdity of the war on marijuana. How can you grow up in a nation where everyone smokes pot, and not laugh at pathetic Johnny Law waggling his nightstick in an impotent rage over it?

/inappropriate


I think it's more than just a lack of respect for the law but a total lack of respect for government. We are in the middle of a recession yet congress still thinks its important to waste taxpayer money on stopping a few college kids from smoking a J despite the fact that all available evidence suggests its essentially harmless. its farking retarded.
 
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