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2009-04-28 02:07:26 PM
Only 28 percent consider last week's appeal by Coleman to the Minnesota Supreme Court "appropriate."

So we're up to 28% now

deus-ex-machinima.net
 
2009-04-28 02:14:50 PM
impaler: Only 28 percent consider last week's appeal by Coleman to the Minnesota Supreme Court "appropriate."

So we're up to 28% now


Came in to say this.
 
2009-04-28 02:31:31 PM
You're doing it wrong, Norm.

i39.tinypic.com
 
2009-04-28 02:36:32 PM
gizmodo.com

True Great American intrepid journalist,writer,comedian,commentator and now Senator. Al Franken.

Go get em tiger
 
2009-04-28 02:56:22 PM
Norm Coleman is a liar. Whether he was lying then or is lying now, he was lying at some point. Therefore he is a liar. Plain and simple.

Two days after the election, he had a razor-thin, less-than-300-vote lead when the votes were still being counted. He gave a press conference to claim victory, and said that if it were him on the bottom, he'd forgo the recount, and "step aside" to "let the healing begin." He chided Al Franken for going ahead with it, saying it would cost the taxpayers money. This, despite the fact that a recount is legally mandated in this state if the split in vote total is less than one-half of one percent of the total cast. Which it was. By several thousand votes.

Since then, despite the tables having tipped SKIGHTLY FURTHER in the other direction from where they were when HE was in the lead (not to mention the vote count having been under a microscope, and therefore much more accurate) he's been chucking every single monkey-wrench into the machine he possibly can in order to keep Franken from taking the seat that's rightfully his. Even though he knows there's not a chance in hell he can still win. Meanwhile, he's doing irreparable damage to himself, his party, and in fact, the whole country. All because the assholes in the GOP are terrified of that 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority. Because then they can't possibly continue to force their backward, revisionist agenda on the people who overwhelmingly rejected it at the polls.

To me, the fact that it's FRANKEN who is going to take it just makes it all the sweeter to me. The right puts him in the same box as Michael Moore and Bill Maher. So when he finally DOES get to take his seat, and serve the last 11/12ths of the term he was legally elected to to serve ALL of, I WILL BATHE IN THEIR TEARS.

You LOST, Republicans. Not because you didn't try hard enough, or because Obama is so popular. You lost because your social policies have hamstrung this country so badly that people rejected them wholesale. Plain and simple.
 
2009-04-28 03:20:34 PM
MaxxLarge: Norm Coleman is a liar. Whether he was lying then or is lying now, he was lying at some point. Therefore he is a liar. Plain and simple.

Two days after the election, he had a razor-thin, less-than-300-vote lead when the votes were still being counted. He gave a press conference to claim victory, and said that if it were him on the bottom, he'd forgo the recount, and "step aside" to "let the healing begin." He chided Al Franken for going ahead with it, saying it would cost the taxpayers money. This, despite the fact that a recount is legally mandated in this state if the split in vote total is less than one-half of one percent of the total cast. Which it was. By several thousand votes.

Since then, despite the tables having tipped SKIGHTLY FURTHER in the other direction from where they were when HE was in the lead (not to mention the vote count having been under a microscope, and therefore much more accurate) he's been chucking every single monkey-wrench into the machine he possibly can in order to keep Franken from taking the seat that's rightfully his. Even though he knows there's not a chance in hell he can still win. Meanwhile, he's doing irreparable damage to himself, his party, and in fact, the whole country. All because the assholes in the GOP are terrified of that 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority. Because then they can't possibly continue to force their backward, revisionist agenda on the people who overwhelmingly rejected it at the polls.

To me, the fact that it's FRANKEN who is going to take it just makes it all the sweeter to me. The right puts him in the same box as Michael Moore and Bill Maher. So when he finally DOES get to take his seat, and serve the last 11/12ths of the term he was legally elected to to serve ALL of, I WILL BATHE IN THEIR TEARS.

You LOST, Republicans. Not because you didn't try hard enough, or because Obama is so popular. You lost because your social policies have hamstrung this country so badly that people rejected them wholesale. Plain and simple.


I am standing and applauding you, sir!
 
2009-04-28 03:48:00 PM
MaxxLarge: Norm Coleman is a liar. Whether he was lying then or is lying now, he was lying at some point. Therefore he is a liar. Plain and simple.

Two days after the election, he had a razor-thin, less-than-300-vote lead when the votes were still being counted. He gave a press conference to claim victory, and said that if it were him on the bottom, he'd forgo the recount, and "step aside" to "let the healing begin." He chided Al Franken for going ahead with it, saying it would cost the taxpayers money. This, despite the fact that a recount is legally mandated in this state if the split in vote total is less than one-half of one percent of the total cast. Which it was. By several thousand votes.

Since then, despite the tables having tipped SKIGHTLY FURTHER in the other direction from where they were when HE was in the lead (not to mention the vote count having been under a microscope, and therefore much more accurate) he's been chucking every single monkey-wrench into the machine he possibly can in order to keep Franken from taking the seat that's rightfully his. Even though he knows there's not a chance in hell he can still win. Meanwhile, he's doing irreparable damage to himself, his party, and in fact, the whole country. All because the assholes in the GOP are terrified of that 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority. Because then they can't possibly continue to force their backward, revisionist agenda on the people who overwhelmingly rejected it at the polls.

To me, the fact that it's FRANKEN who is going to take it just makes it all the sweeter to me. The right puts him in the same box as Michael Moore and Bill Maher. So when he finally DOES get to take his seat, and serve the last 11/12ths of the term he was legally elected to to serve ALL of, I WILL BATHE IN THEIR TEARS.

You LOST, Republicans. Not because you didn't try hard enough, or because Obama is so popular. You lost because your social policies have hamstrung this country so badly that people rejected them wholesale. Plain and simple.


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2009-04-28 03:50:27 PM
MaxxLarge:

You could have called him a Republican and dispensed with all that typing

.
 
Bf+
2009-04-28 04:00:56 PM
So what? If Coleman ever paid attention to what Minnesota wanted, he would have been elected senator.
 
2009-04-28 04:01:04 PM
Well, to be fair, only 64% in the poll want Normie to quit his losing battle, so he must continue the battle.
 
2009-04-28 04:03:39 PM
Jacobin: Well, to be fair, only 64% in the poll want Normie to quit his losing battle, so he must continue the battle.

That is only 2/3 of the people and neither 2 or 3 is a very large number.
 
2009-04-28 04:06:01 PM
Nemo's Brother
Jacobin: Well, to be fair, only 64% in the poll want Normie to quit his losing battle, so he must continue the battle.

That is only 2/3 of the people and neither 2 or 3 is a very large number.


I knew if someone applied some math to this issue, it would become clear and you have done so with irrefutable equations. The numbers 2 and 3 are quite small, and no doubt smaller than the population of Oregon, so I rest my case.
 
2009-04-28 04:06:01 PM
Nemo's Brother: Jacobin: Well, to be fair, only 64% in the poll want Normie to quit his losing battle, so he must continue the battle.

That is only 2/3 of the people and neither 2 or 3 is a very large number.


Ridiculous. How are you supposed to divide 3 into 2, they are completely different numbers.

Therefore Coleman must go on!
 
2009-04-28 04:07:37 PM
I guess it's just "GTW" in this case.
 
2009-04-28 04:08:05 PM
How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.
 
2009-04-28 04:09:15 PM
What's the deal with the 4,400 votes anyways? I assume they were spoiled or something.
 
2009-04-28 04:10:22 PM
phinphanatic.com

Coleman has become the Brett Favre of politics.

Just, you know, without any of that initial success.
 
2009-04-28 04:10:44 PM
randomjsa:

How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.

You sir are the gift that just keeps giving. You really are. Don't ever change.
 
2009-04-28 04:11:15 PM
randomjsa: How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.

not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.
 
2009-04-28 04:11:18 PM
The random telephone survey of 1,042 Minnesota adult produced a sample consisting of 20 percent Republicans, 36 percent Democrats and 37 percent independents, with 6 percent offering no self-identification.

Fark Independents?
 
2009-04-28 04:12:03 PM
randomjsa: How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.

LOL

Why do you hate MN voting laws? Are you some kind of Marxasocialfacist?
 
2009-04-28 04:13:44 PM
Not living in the state and not caring if they get farked by having only 1 senator I say fight on Coleman! your shenanigans have been entertaining thus far and I can only conclude that they will be in the future as well...
 
2009-04-28 04:13:55 PM
HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.

LOL

Why do you hate MN voting laws? Are you some kind of IslamoMmarxasocialfacist?


Fixed
 
2009-04-28 04:15:30 PM
whereisian: What's the deal with the 4,400 votes anyways? I assume they were spoiled or something.

Coleman thinks everyone who was in that tv show should get to vote.
 
2009-04-28 04:15:38 PM
Nemo's Brother: Jacobin: Well, to be fair, only 64% in the poll want Normie to quit his losing battle, so he must continue the battle.

That is only 2/3 of the people and neither 2 or 3 is a very large number.


Agreed.
 
2009-04-28 04:16:14 PM
Headso: Not living in the state and not caring if they get farked by having only 1 senator I say fight on Coleman! your shenanigans have been entertaining thus far and I can only conclude that they will be in the future as well...

Especially when he loses. Even if he gets a magical do-over that he seems to be aiming for, he'll have to climb out of the pit he's dug by being an hypocritical bastard. Franken would probably still kick his ass with no problems.

The only thing that could make this better is if Olympia Snowe or a few other RINOs ditched the party and went over to Democratic so the Filibuster could go through anyway. The resulting hilarity of Norm being dropped by his friends as they try to spin this into something manageable would be hilarious.
 
2009-04-28 04:17:22 PM
And the rest of you: If you don't like how we settle our election, no one cares, it's none of your business! Don't like it? Move here.
 
2009-04-28 04:18:51 PM
randomjsa: How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.

Not only did he not win, as far as winning is defined by, you know, winning but his post election behavior and outright dishonesty and hipocrisy has exposed him as a person not suited to represent people in the Senate.

Float another Republican candidate next time but Coleman is not a worthy man.
 
2009-04-28 04:19:56 PM
Shut up Randomjsa, you cock.
 
2009-04-28 04:20:35 PM
randomjsa: How about we let Coleman get back to being a Senator? Since he, you know, won and everything.

www.mrdowling.com
 
2009-04-28 04:21:07 PM
MaxxLarge: Norm Coleman is a liar. Whether he was lying then or is lying now, he was lying at some point. Therefore he is a liar. Plain and simple.

Two days after the election, he had a razor-thin, less-than-300-vote lead when the votes were still being counted. He gave a press conference to claim victory, and said that if it were him on the bottom, he'd forgo the recount, and "step aside" to "let the healing begin." He chided Al Franken for going ahead with it, saying it would cost the taxpayers money. This, despite the fact that a recount is legally mandated in this state if the split in vote total is less than one-half of one percent of the total cast. Which it was. By several thousand votes.

Since then, despite the tables having tipped SKIGHTLY FURTHER in the other direction from where they were when HE was in the lead (not to mention the vote count having been under a microscope, and therefore much more accurate) he's been chucking every single monkey-wrench into the machine he possibly can in order to keep Franken from taking the seat that's rightfully his. Even though he knows there's not a chance in hell he can still win. Meanwhile, he's doing irreparable damage to himself, his party, and in fact, the whole country. All because the assholes in the GOP are terrified of that 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority. Because then they can't possibly continue to force their backward, revisionist agenda on the people who overwhelmingly rejected it at the polls.

To me, the fact that it's FRANKEN who is going to take it just makes it all the sweeter to me. The right puts him in the same box as Michael Moore and Bill Maher. So when he finally DOES get to take his seat, and serve the last 11/12ths of the term he was legally elected to to serve ALL of, I WILL BATHE IN THEIR TEARS.

You LOST, Republicans. Not because you didn't try hard enough, or because Obama is so popular. You lost because your social policies have hamstrung this country so badly that people rejected them wholesale. Plain and simple.


img518.imageshack.us


/continuing the applaud theme
 
2009-04-28 04:21:37 PM
All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.
 
2009-04-28 04:21:58 PM
idsfa

And the rest of you: If you don't like how we settle our election, no one cares, it's none of your business! Don't like it? Move here.

Pointing and laughing is still ok, right?

Seriously, friend... Your lousy system and the GOP's lawyers are keeping a senator out of congress. So yes, this is something that goes further than Minnesota, and we have a right to give a darn.
 
2009-04-28 04:25:08 PM
randomjsa: All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.


You mean the majority Republican committees who looked over the ballots?

According to the laws of MN, such a close election means an automatic recount. Franken was determined the winner after a recount. It's like an automatic play review in a sport. The first call is reviewed and can be reversed. If you get given a penalty and then the call is reversed, you didn't really get a penalty, now did you?

According to the laws of Minnesota, Franken won. According to the laws of Florida, Bush won in 2000. Franken won because after a mandated recount he carried more votes.
 
2009-04-28 04:25:30 PM
randomjsa: All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.


Demonstrated bias? Oh... you mean the canvassing board which was appointed by Republican Tim Pawlenty?
 
2009-04-28 04:25:31 PM
randomjsa: All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.


Unlike many right-leaning blogs and commentators, Coleman makes no claim of partisan funny business by the five members of the Canvassing Board, which has only one clearly identified Democrat. Coleman's lawyer once praised the panel's makeup, in fact.

We are all laughing at you, randomjsa.
 
2009-04-28 04:25:51 PM
randomjsa: Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved?


As you well know, on election day, and the week after and the week after, until today, there was no winner. By Minnesota Law. The recount... required by Minnesota Law. That "small group of people with demonstrated bias", also determined by Minnesota Law (not to mention their 'bias' skewed Republican, by political affiliation).

Someone already asked it: do you really think Minnesota Law should not be followed in the case of a Minnesota election?
 
2009-04-28 04:26:46 PM
Jacobin: Nemo's Brother
Jacobin: Well, to be fair, only 64% in the poll want Normie to quit his losing battle, so he must continue the battle.

That is only 2/3 of the people and neither 2 or 3 is a very large number.

I knew if someone applied some math to this issue, it would become clear and you have done so with irrefutable equations. The numbers 2 and 3 are quite small, and no doubt smaller than the population of Oregon, so I rest my case.


We're measuring in Oregons again? Dammit.
 
2009-04-28 04:27:31 PM
Quick, come up with another wedge issue, that will save us!
---GOP
 
2009-04-28 04:27:35 PM

I agree with Maxx

et al, but this poll is kind of like asking a bunch of Americans if they like America.

The Star readers are mostly democrats, so it's no shock the results turned out like they did.

That being said, Coleman needs to stfu and donate his organs for the eatification of the Republican party per the preceding thread.
 
2009-04-28 04:27:42 PM
MaxxLarge: Norm Coleman is a liar. Whether he was lying then or is lying now, he was lying at some point. Therefore he is a liar. Plain and simple.

Two days after the election, he had a razor-thin, less-than-300-vote lead when the votes were still being counted. He gave a press conference to claim victory, and said that if it were him on the bottom, he'd forgo the recount, and "step aside" to "let the healing begin." He chided Al Franken for going ahead with it, saying it would cost the taxpayers money. This, despite the fact that a recount is legally mandated in this state if the split in vote total is less than one-half of one percent of the total cast. Which it was. By several thousand votes.

Since then, despite the tables having tipped SKIGHTLY FURTHER in the other direction from where they were when HE was in the lead (not to mention the vote count having been under a microscope, and therefore much more accurate) he's been chucking every single monkey-wrench into the machine he possibly can in order to keep Franken from taking the seat that's rightfully his. Even though he knows there's not a chance in hell he can still win. Meanwhile, he's doing irreparable damage to himself, his party, and in fact, the whole country. All because the assholes in the GOP are terrified of that 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority. Because then they can't possibly continue to force their backward, revisionist agenda on the people who overwhelmingly rejected it at the polls.

To me, the fact that it's FRANKEN who is going to take it just makes it all the sweeter to me. The right puts him in the same box as Michael Moore and Bill Maher. So when he finally DOES get to take his seat, and serve the last 11/12ths of the term he was legally elected to to serve ALL of, I WILL BATHE IN THEIR TEARS.

You LOST, Republicans. Not because you didn't try hard enough, or because Obama is so popular. You lost because your social policies have hamstrung this country so badly that people rejected them wholesale. Plain and simple.


I and these soldiers salute you:

i78.photobucket.com
 
2009-04-28 04:28:59 PM
randomjsa: All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.


Yeah, those damned biased laws! Grr!
 
2009-04-28 04:29:16 PM
One small flaw with the headline...

Because of Coleman's constant appeals and obvious douchenozzlery, Franken technically needs to start work, not get back to it.

/Republican ads in 2014: Democrat Al Franken did absolutely nothing the first five and a half months after he was elected.
 
2009-04-28 04:29:30 PM
randomjsa: All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.


I had to read that three times to make sure the dyslexia wasn't kicking.

Excellent troll, will rage again.
 
2009-04-28 04:35:56 PM
randomjsa: All2morrowsparTs: not according to the voters. Maybe to you, but not to the voters.

Well no, not according to the opinion polls of voters now who don't care any longer, but according to the voters on election day? Well, Coleman did win.

Tell me, who was the winner until a small group of people with demonstrated bias got involved? Hmm? Go ahead. Tell me.


Franken according to MN law.
 
2009-04-28 04:38:48 PM
"You must ask yourself why you seek the senate seat? Is it for Minnesota's glory, or for your own?"
 
2009-04-28 04:41:38 PM
I hope Coleman loses this appeal and appeals for cert in SCOTUS. I hope SCOTUS, primarily in the form of Antonin "I'm a Fascist and I don't Care Who Knows It" Scalia and his buddy Clarence "Scalia" Thomas, tell him to fark off and EABOD. I hope Pawlentry's tears ever so slightly smudge the election certificate that will bear Franken's name (and Pawlenty's own signature). I hope Coleman-ites WHAAAARGAAAAARBL about this election as long as us Dems did about Gore (~4 years for most of the die-hards) and we nourish ourselves on the tears. I hope Franken's first vote is to block a filibuster of National (single-payer, plz) Health Care.

// I hope to wrangle a threeway with myself, Diora Baird and Kate Beckinsale
 
2009-04-28 04:42:05 PM
As much as I admire Franken and would like him to be sworn in ASAP, polls don't determine, laws do. Let the legal process complete and then we'll see where we stand. It's more important to have a clean winner.
 
2009-04-28 04:48:46 PM
This is reminiscent of Ellen Saurbrey's campaign. Basically she campaigned, and she lost, which would have been just like any other campaign except that she was on every gol-darned talk show on NPR (which sort of puts the lie to the whole "liberal bias" thing) complaining about... Well, that she lost.

She ended up being the Bush Administration's UN representative for women's health.

Yep. this was the horror that GWB thought best represented women.

There are people in Maryland who want to punch you Minnesotans, just saying.
 
2009-04-28 04:49:16 PM
Norm knows he lost.



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