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(Arizona Star)   Arizona will spend $1.5 million stimulus money replacing obsolete metric signs with shiny new American signs   (azstarnet.com) divider line 200
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2009-04-26 11:19:46 AM
Why is this stupid subby? Didn't you get the memo. Government spending will get us out of this depression. THe more, the better. You just have to trust the people in Washington.
 
2009-04-26 11:38:13 AM
Crosshair: Why is this stupid subby? Didn't you get the memo. Government spending will get us out of this depression. THe more, the better. You just have to trust the people in Washington.

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2009-04-26 11:56:18 AM
That's cause metric is so faggy and not for real Muricans.


They already took our jerbs. We can't let them take our measurements.
 
2009-04-26 11:57:19 AM
As an engineer, I think the metric system >>>>>>>> the standard system.

We need to completely adopt one system and drop the other. That way I don't have to own two sets of wrenches to fix my car and space probes won't crash on Mars. . .
 
2009-04-26 11:57:31 AM
img91.imageshack.us

General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No, I don't think I do, sir, no.
General Jack D. Ripper: He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Metric infiltration, Metric indoctrination, Metric subversion and the international Metric conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
 
2009-04-26 11:59:48 AM
Now the illegals will have to travel 1.6X further....
 
2009-04-26 11:59:51 AM
Winktologist: Crosshair: Why is this stupid subby? Didn't you get the memo. Government spending will get us out of this depression. THe more, the better. You just have to trust the people in Washington.

Trolling? Maybe. But that is basically what they said.
 
2009-04-26 12:02:24 PM
Crosshair: Why is this stupid subby? Didn't you get the memo. Government spending will get us out of this depression. THe more, the better. You just have to trust the people in Washington.

FTA: "The department is continually looking at the age of signs," said Linda Ritter, spokeswoman for the Arizona Department of Transportation. "We place replacement priorities where signage is aging.

This signage has been deemed a priority."
That designation happened before the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funding was available.


So are you saying that a state shouldn't use stimulus money to help pay for infrastructure maintenance they were already planning before the stimulus? Oh that's right, you probably didn't read the article and just spewed out some Fark Independent verbal tripe without even thinking.
 
2009-04-26 12:02:45 PM
I don't speak metric.


Yea is superior system of measurement. But who is use to it?

Karma Chameleon:

How are you going to feel when the ball is on the 50 meter line, with 3 meters to go? or when the pitcher throws a 175 kph ball?
 
2009-04-26 12:05:09 PM
In other news, Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced that Maricopa County will abandon fingerprinting for Bertillon Anthropometric Measurement.
"It's kinda dehumanizing," Arpaio said, "and we like dehumanizing. Besides, prints are too easy to use to get people off, and we don't like it when people get off."
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2009-04-26 12:05:16 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: I can no longer sit back and allow Metric infiltration, Metric indoctrination, Metric subversion and the international Metric conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

Pure WIN in 3.
 
2009-04-26 12:05:46 PM
tonesskin: Winktologist:

Trolling? Maybe. But that is basically what they said.


I think the trolling aspect really comes from the fact that these people were fine trusting the boys in Washington when they were deciding what civil liberties were and were not required in the post-9/11 world, but when it comes to our tax dollars, then we can't trust Washington at all because they're corrupt abusers of power.
 
2009-04-26 12:06:48 PM
Twice Banned: I don't speak metric.


Yea is superior system of measurement. But who is use to it?

Karma Chameleon:

How are you going to feel when the ball is on the 50 meter line, with 3 meters to go? or when the pitcher throws a 175 kph ball?


I don't live in the US anymore, so I think I'll cope.
 
2009-04-26 12:08:41 PM
Its just a cover for updating the TACMARs so the Mexican General commanding the New World Order's armored units can find the airports, hospitals and Del Tacos.
 
2009-04-26 12:08:47 PM
Let's see... $1.5 million spent on local businesses, who employ others that spend the money in local businesses, who employ others...

Subby failed Econ101
 
2009-04-26 12:11:03 PM
I hate driving on I-19. 3 km to go? How the heck am I supposed to know how far that is?
 
2009-04-26 12:12:06 PM
mikeandeichmann: Crosshair: Why is this stupid subby? Didn't you get the memo. Government spending will get us out of this depression. THe more, the better. You just have to trust the people in Washington.

FTA: "The department is continually looking at the age of signs," said Linda Ritter, spokeswoman for the Arizona Department of Transportation. "We place replacement priorities where signage is aging.

This signage has been deemed a priority."
That designation happened before the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funding was available.

So are you saying that a state shouldn't use stimulus money to help pay for infrastructure maintenance they were already planning before the stimulus? Oh that's right, you probably didn't read the article and just spewed out some Fark Independent verbal tripe without even thinking.


I have an honest question for you. Do you think spending of this type will really stimulate the economy?
 
2009-04-26 12:12:50 PM
mikeandeichmann: I think the trolling aspect really comes from the fact that these people were fine trusting the boys in Washington when they were deciding what civil liberties were and were not required in the post-9/11 world, but when it comes to our tax dollars, then we can't trust Washington at all because they're corrupt abusers of power.

Given that the basic functions of government include both the maintenance of public facilities as well as the protection and enforcement of civil liberties and civil rights, these are both pretty important aspects.
 
2009-04-26 12:13:23 PM
marsgwar: I hate driving on I-19. 3 km to go? How the heck am I supposed to know how far that is?

www.theblackadder.co.uk
 
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2009-04-26 12:13:52 PM
3 km to go? How the heck am I supposed to know how far that is?

Multiply by five, divide by eight, borrow 1 from the left column, remember to put the decimal point in the... Hey! Stop calculating! You missed your exit!
 
2009-04-26 12:14:21 PM
Viva Italia: That way I don't have to own two sets of wrenches to fix my car and space probes won't crash on Mars. . .

So who is going to pay to redo all the infrastructure that has been built using feet and inches?

I'll go metric when the Europeans switch their electrical system over to 120 60hrz. Why? Because switching over involves lots of headaches and no real benefit over what we already have.

Hey, if going metric cured cancer and made everyone fart rainbows, that would be different. Metric is just as arbitrary as the English system, but at least the English system has more practical units.

Arguing over which one is better is like arguing over if Coke or Pepsi is better. Do we go with a system developed by illiterate farmers that used practical units of measurement involving grains of barely and a serving of beer, or do we go with a system developed by some pissed Frenchchman that was spread around the world at gunpoint and because it wasn't British.

The Metrics killer: The Decimal Inch

Manufacturing and some engineering disciplines have abandoned traditional measures as well, but not in favor of metrics. They have discovered an even better system of measure called the decimal inch. It has been discovered that the smallest distance of separation visible to the unaided eye is 0.01 inches, or 0.26 mm. What this means is that being accurate to within a hundredth of an inch is better than being within a millimeter. Four times better as a matter of fact. The only way metrics can be better is if rulers used half and quarter millimeters, but adding fractions defeats the whole purpose of decimal measurement. So now manufacturing and engineering have embraced the decimal inch, a standard inch divided into tenths and hundredths. This has set off a chain reaction, if manufacturing does not have to convert to metrics, why should we?

Surprise. People will use whatever unit is the easiest and most convenient for them.

Now, can we please go back to debating about more important things, like how Obama doesn't look like a chimp as much as Bush does.
 
2009-04-26 12:18:42 PM
marsgwar: I hate driving on I-19. 3 km to go? How the heck am I supposed to know how far that is?

1.86411358 miles

/roughly
 
2009-04-26 12:19:23 PM
mikeandeichmann: tonesskin: Winktologist:

Trolling? Maybe. But that is basically what they said.

I think the trolling aspect really comes from the fact that these people were fine trusting the boys in Washington when they were deciding what civil liberties were and were not required in the post-9/11 world, but when it comes to our tax dollars, then we can't trust Washington at all because they're corrupt abusers of power.


I wouldn't say that; though I didn't like the civil liberties thing, either. I just think that spending (with such a deficit) to get the economy rolling isn't the best idea. Or telling consumers to go out and "buy, buy, buy" while fighting over interest rates with credit cards and other borrowing agencies.

Then again, I think building an entire economy on consumer spending instead of production is pretty stupid in the first place. Do American companies make these signs?
 
2009-04-26 12:19:58 PM
Somacandra: mikeandeichmann: I think the trolling aspect really comes from the fact that these people were fine trusting the boys in Washington when they were deciding what civil liberties were and were not required in the post-9/11 world, but when it comes to our tax dollars, then we can't trust Washington at all because they're corrupt abusers of power.

Given that the basic functions of government include both the maintenance of public facilities as well as the protection and enforcement of civil liberties and civil rights, these are both pretty important aspects.


While I would disagree that the role of government is to designate what civil liberties are less valuable than our safety, you're pretty much right. My point was not that one of those two things fell out of the realm of government responsibility, but rather that there is an extreme hypocrisy involved when someone is willing to trust government to selectively limit or allow certain freedoms (as was the case with Bush in the post-9/11 years) while not trusting them with our tax money simply because they're the government.

It doesn't make any sense, and reeks of partisan hackery.
 
2009-04-26 12:20:13 PM
marsgwar: I hate driving on I-19. 3 km to go? How the heck am I supposed to know how far that is?

I suppose that by not being retarded you would know.
 
2009-04-26 12:20:23 PM
Think about the hundreds of thousands(millions?) of people we could employ changing this country over to the metric system...
 
2009-04-26 12:21:41 PM
SharkTrager: I have an honest question for you. Do you think spending of this type will really stimulate the economy?

Absolutely I do. I think if anything, we aren't updating the infrastructure enough. Not only does it put people to work and get money flowing for goods and services, it fulfills a basic function of government largely ignored since the 1970's and provides a framework for future economic development. A flourishing private sector depends on a well-functioning public sector. This is centrist mainstream thought--should be no big surprise. Just ask Dwight D. Eisenhower. Do you honestly think our economic prosperity and efficient distribution of manufactured goods doesn't owe a great deal to his the interstate highway system?
 
2009-04-26 12:21:46 PM
crab66: Think about the hundreds of thousands(millions?) of people we could employ changing this country over to the metric system...

Plus, it would make it much easier to outsource!
 
2009-04-26 12:22:33 PM
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2009-04-26 12:24:01 PM
xennex

Interesting that the United States is black on that map. What kind of racial agenda are you trying to push?
 
2009-04-26 12:24:54 PM
mikeandeichmann: While I would disagree that the role of government is to designate what civil liberties are less valuable than our safety, you're pretty much right.

I'm not disagreeing with you in any sense, I think. I was referring to the protection of civil liberties by the Federal government from state and local infringement--in the sense of the post-Civil War Constitutional Amendments. I consider civil rights to be a direct consequence of civil liberties--the 1964 Civil Rights act was an act of Federal protection of that tradition, for example.
 
2009-04-26 12:25:06 PM
I love America, but for the love of God sometimes I hate my fellow Americans.

Especially when it comes to switching over to Metric. Something that should have been done like...post Civil War.

I HATE the English system of measurements.

They barely spend any time on it in school anymore; everything in science is in metric.

Get it the fark out of our country.

AZ should be a leader and be the first state to switch to Metric.
 
2009-04-26 12:26:13 PM
SharkTrager:

I have an honest question for you. Do you think spending of this type will really stimulate the economy?


To a degree. In all honesty, I think there are probably better places the money could be spent, but if they had already planned on doing this project before the stimulus, it does make a modicum of sense to use the stimulus money for pre-planned "shovel ready" projects.

That said, they will need workers to remove and place the signs, and with any luck we will get the signs from an American company (okay, so a lot of luck). Those are two of the primary objectives of the stimulus, so yeah, I think it will help somewhat.
 
2009-04-26 12:26:35 PM
SharkTrager: I have an honest question for you. Do you think spending of this type will really stimulate the economy?

Do you even know what the economy is? It is, by DEFINITION, the final value of all good and services BOUGHT in a given location (say, in America), in a given period of time (this fiscal year). If the government is paying for the signs, by definition, IT HAS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. As long as money is being spent, ie, people (human beings) are receiving money in exchange for goods or services, it's a good thing; the alternative, nobody spending any money, rising credit card, mortgage, and car payment delinquencies and the resulting spiral of even less money being spent, is unthinkably bad. Government spending isn't efficient, but it's all we've got right now. Please don't overthink it, it's that simple.
 
2009-04-26 12:27:05 PM
Is it basically a case of old white people are afraid to change anything because it's communist?

The metric system is communist is what I am saying here. So is everything else.

It's all a communist plot.
 
2009-04-26 12:27:21 PM
im suprised some people still go slow enough in arizona to read signs...
 
2009-04-26 12:27:49 PM
tonesskin: xennex

Interesting that the United States is black on that map. What kind of racial agenda are you trying to push?


WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED BY THE GREENS!

/We're a minority now.
//We got rights.
 
2009-04-26 12:28:33 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: Its just a cover for updating the TACMARs so the Mexican General commanding the New World Order's armored units can find the airports, hospitals and Del Tacos.

Mexicans use the metric system.

/And we teach evolution in schools... And believe in it
//That's how evil we are
 
2009-04-26 12:28:37 PM
Don't worry, Obama will just print more money. You'll get over it.
 
2009-04-26 12:28:53 PM
ms9vy: If the government is paying for the signs, by definition, IT HAS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.

No it doesn't.
 
2009-04-26 12:29:26 PM
crab66: Think about the hundreds of thousands(millions?) of people we could employ changing this country over to the metric system...

img1.picturewizard.com

"You know, I vaguely recall seeing footage somewhere of something exactly like this that, uh... leads me to believe this probably won't work."
 
2009-04-26 12:32:01 PM
tonesskin: ms9vy: If the government is paying for the signs, by definition, IT HAS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.

No it doesn't.


Yes it is.
 
2009-04-26 12:32:23 PM
It's actually kind of nice.. I was driving down I-19 yesterday and had no idea if I was speeding or not
 
2009-04-26 12:32:44 PM
CygnusDarius: tonesskin: ms9vy: If the government is paying for the signs, by definition, IT HAS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.

No it doesn't.

Yes it is.


No it wasn't.
 
2009-04-26 12:32:58 PM
detfrost1: Especially when it comes to switching over to Metric. Something that should have been done like...post Civil War.

I agree but its just too late. My car gets 5 Kennings to the Rod and that's the way I like it.
 
2009-04-26 12:33:02 PM
Crosshair: The Metrics killer: The Decimal Inch

Manufacturing and some engineering disciplines have abandoned traditional measures as well, but not in favor of metrics. They have discovered an even better system of measure called the decimal inch. It has been discovered that the smallest distance of separation visible to the unaided eye is 0.01 inches, or 0.26 mm. What this means is that being accurate to within a hundredth of an inch is better than being within a millimeter. Four times better as a matter of fact. The only way metrics can be better is if rulers used half and quarter millimeters, but adding fractions defeats the whole purpose of decimal measurement. So now manufacturing and engineering have embraced the decimal inch, a standard inch divided into tenths and hundredths. This has set off a chain reaction, if manufacturing does not have to convert to metrics, why should we?


I know you're just trollin', but damn, that's some ISO-9000-certified, industrial-strength stupid there.
 
2009-04-26 12:33:19 PM
Outlaw2097: im suprised some people still go slow enough in arizona to read signs...

We only do that when we're behind snowbirds.
 
2009-04-26 12:33:24 PM
HDDriller: It's actually kind of nice.. I was driving down I-19 yesterday and had no idea if I was speeding or not

They let mentally retarded people drive? How farking hard is it to figure out if you are speeding? Dear lord.
 
2009-04-26 12:33:24 PM
Crosshair: Why is this stupid subby? Didn't you get the memo. Government spending will get us out of this depression. THe more, the better. You just have to trust the people in Washington.

The fact that they are engaging in Keynesian spending is not the stupid part. The fact that they could spend it on something else that would also invest in future economic growth is what is stupid.

Feel free to take a principles of macroeconomics class sometime.
 
2009-04-26 12:34:17 PM
CygnusDarius: tonesskin: ms9vy: If the government is paying for the signs, by definition, IT HAS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.

No it doesn't.

Yes it is.


It is not.



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