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IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 01:38:40 PM

Phil Herup: What friends?

Seriously, we really do not have that many.

Not ANYMORE...

DarnoKonrad		2009-04-21 01:39:38 PM

Renart: Phil Herup: What has he done? Well he let the world know about our interrogation tactics

"They'll see everything! They'll see the big board!"

We must not have a torture gap!

Shaggy_C		2009-04-21 01:40:38 PM

Shadowknight: Next time one of OUR guys gets tortured, we can't claim it was wrong. We did it first. If we toss out some conventions, why not the ones banning Mustard Gas, then biatch impotently to the international community when our guys get another nerve agent sprayed on them.

Your "America! FARK YEAH WE'RE THE BEST, THAT'S WHY WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT!" attitude and lack of perspective are so astounding, I can only assume you are either a troll or an idiot.

Or Rudy Giuliani (new window)

PC LOAD LETTER		2009-04-21 01:41:33 PM

Phil Herup: There are plenty of other reasons besides the memos.

Apologizing to European leaders for nothing.

Not standing up to Pelosi and Reid

Constantly blaming the previous administration

Licking the asses of Chavez and Ortega.

He is the new Jimmy Carter.

Our allies deserve an apology for being forced to take over the military messes we created, and for treating them like dogshiat the past 8 years. Also for pissing off all the Islamics that live in their borders.

Agreed on the Pelosi/Reid business. I think "manage" is a better term than "stand up to".

The previous administration deserves blaming. Sorry. You farked up. BIG TIME. Now, like a father to his child, we are cleaning up the mess YOU created (mostly. I know the D's had a hand in it, but 6 years of complete GOP control folks)

Chavez has oil. He doesn't have a batshiat religious philosophy that makes his people want to fly planes into our buildings. Chavez will one day not be in power. Then we can have non-Islamic oil. Works for me! Ortega? Well, considering we committed murder in his own country, yeah, we should be nice to him. The Contras were the exact LAST people we should have gotten involved with. Murdering thugs.

New Jimmy WHO? No one farking cares about Jimmy Carter. That's like me comparing Bush to Hoover. NO ONE CARES.

Phil Herup		2009-04-21 01:41:42 PM

Shadowknight: As far as "weakening" our country, it's the torture that does that, not airing our dirty laundry.

Get back to us when we are chopping off fingers and hands to get information. OK?

Or electrocuting genitals, or ripping off fingernails.

Lets talk about real torture.

Waaaahhhh.... sleep deprivation weakens us as a country.......waaaahhh... lets make sure late term abortions are still on the menu though.

Lando Lincoln		2009-04-21 01:41:46 PM

fritton: What is with all the trolling headlines lately?

Drew is adding on a sun porch.

Elmo Jones		2009-04-21 01:43:05 PM

Renart: Phil Herup: What has he done? Well he let the world know about our interrogation tactics

[strangelove.jpg]

"They'll see everything! They'll see the big board!"

That's a laser-lighted disco ball of win.

Phil Herup		2009-04-21 01:43:16 PM

IXI Jim IXI: Not ANYMORE...

Jim, who should we be friends with that we are not anymore?

(they all come running to the US when they are in trouble though.)

MFL		2009-04-21 01:43:26 PM

IXI Jim IXI Yes, where Obama talks to our enemies, Bush pisses off our friends.

Didn't Sarkozy call Obama a guttless fish the other day?

PC LOAD LETTER		2009-04-21 01:43:39 PM

MFL: PC LOAD LETTER Here's the part where you rant about rampant deflation.

This is just the calm before the storm. Inflation is coming and it's going to happen on the heels of the "recovery".

When banks pull their excess reserves out of Federal Reserve accounts that pay 0% to .25%, and they start lending - to anyone, on any terms - the fractional reserve process will begin. Ben Bernanke & Co. will face the challenge of having to remove that liquidity from the system.

"The moment this fear of deflation turns into a fear of inflation, you'll find interest rates rise in the long end which is going to choke off the recovery. If we are successful [in reviving the economy] we are heading from the prospect of deflation to stagflation."-George Soros.

Truly a dizzying intellect. For every George Soros, there's another Bernanke. No one has the slightest idea of what the hell they are doing. Obama's smart: it's better to be criticized for doing SOMETHING that for doing NOTHING. I don't care if it's a dog/pony show; he has to make the public believe that the Government is not fiddling while Rome burns (which is the Republican "recovery" plan.)

Shadowknight		2009-04-21 01:43:52 PM

Phil Herup: Licking the asses of Chavez and Ortega.

So boys and girls, so we are clear:

This is a President licking the ass of those who want America dead.
www.huffingtonpost.com

And this is a President who is just playing diplomatic.
andrewcg.files.wordpress.com

fricasseeing rabbit		2009-04-21 01:44:30 PM

I just wish uncreative insults like chimpy mcflightsuit and hopey mcchange could just go away.

there's lameness on both sides of this aisle.

Nudge		2009-04-21 01:44:45 PM

Random Reality Check: Shostie: However, it's not like there was a whole lot going on during Bush's first 100 days in 2000.

I think it went vacation vacation clear brush vacation vacation fall off bike vacation vacation ignore daily briefing golf vacation vacation fall off Segway vacation vacation.

I may have gotten the order incorrectly but I'm pretty sure I hit all the high points.

Choke on a pretzel. Don't forget that.

QU!RK1019		2009-04-21 01:44:57 PM

DarnoKonrad: Renart: Phil Herup: What has he done? Well he let the world know about our interrogation tactics

"They'll see everything! They'll see the big board!"

We must not have a torture gap!

Of course, the whole point of an interrogation memo is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, eh?!

Shadowknight		2009-04-21 01:45:10 PM

Phil Herup: Get back to us when we are chopping off fingers and hands to get information. OK?

Or electrocuting genitals, or ripping off fingernails.

Lets talk about real torture.

Waaaahhhh.... sleep deprivation weakens us as a country.......waaaahhh... lets make sure late term abortions are still on the menu though.

We're supposed to be the good guys. We can believe it all we want, but you can't expect others to do so unless we act like it.

someonelse		2009-04-21 01:46:57 PM

SynthLord: It's fair to judge a President on a number of standards, so long as they're rational.

This "First 100 Days" thing is distracting, media-driven, arbitrary marketing baloney barely worth comment.

There are vastly more substantial standards from which to judge President Obama, whether you support him or not.

The media is in a bit of a pickle on this one, as the article points out. If they suddenly say, "Hey, you know what? This "1st 100 days" thing is random and kind of pointless, and we're not gonna do it this time" they'd be accused of going easy on Obama, since every other president has been subjected to it.

I think when you're elected president, being judged by an arbitrary standard after 100 days is one of those annoying things up with which you simply must put.

Ablejack		2009-04-21 01:47:42 PM

some things in life should remain mysterious.

PC LOAD LETTER		2009-04-21 01:47:47 PM

Phil Herup: sleep deprivation weakens us as a country

I notice you didn't say waterboarding. Did you know Waterboarding was banned in Vietnam? We had 70,000+ people killed there. You would think that such a harmless technique would be used regularly to save all the lives we could save.

ChancesAre910		2009-04-21 01:48:24 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: tin_man: Hopey McChange is stupider than the Chimpy McFlightsuit crap.

Agreed... should be Hopey O'Change.

Hopey O'Change, like it.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 01:49:05 PM

Phil Herup: Jim, who should we be friends with that we are not anymore?

(they all come running to the US when they are in trouble though.)

Most of Europe seems to think less of now than in 2000, for one.

And yes, everyone runs to us. It's an imposition, but would you rather China held that kind of a role?

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 01:49:47 PM

MFL: Didn't Sarkozy call Obama a guttless fish the other day?

Well, that's France.

PC LOAD LETTER		2009-04-21 01:50:37 PM

IXI Jim IXI: And yes, everyone runs to us. It's an imposition, but would you rather China held that kind of a role?

NICE

madmann		2009-04-21 01:50:53 PM

HAI GUYZ! Is this the thread where the same 5 idiots who are always telling everyone that "it's too soon to judge Bush's legacy" are in here explaining why you can predict Obama's entire future history based on his first 100 days?

Ah, it is.... good. Familiarity is comforting.

And, just for the record, his first 100 days, while statistically unimportant, have marked some pretty good progress.

GanjSmokr		2009-04-21 01:52:25 PM

rcain: Well, he sure as hell has ~~done~~spent a lot more than Bush did in his first hundred days in office.

So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

HeartBurnKid		2009-04-21 01:53:45 PM

Considering Obama's first 100 days were all tied up with damage control from the past 8 years of abuses, I think it's fair to cut him a little slack.

CrankMyBlueSax		2009-04-21 01:53:47 PM

Subby's butthurt just gave me a schadenboner.

blogs.e-rockford.com

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 01:56:33 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: NICE

Some people always biatch about how we're constantly saving the world, but they forget that it shows that we are strong, kind, and possibly worth emulating. It might not be the people we are helping that get that message at that time, but it's a message worth pushing...especially after Bush tried to strong-arm that message in Iraq.

Anti_illuminati		2009-04-21 01:56:59 PM

HeartBurnKid: Considering Obama's first 100 days were all tied up with damage control from the past 8 years of abuses, I think it's fair to cut him a little slack.

Seriously. And let the guy have a beer for f*ck's sake.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 01:57:31 PM

GanjSmokr: So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

Imagine that. After the last guy runs the country into the ground, he has to pay for repairs.

Anti_illuminati		2009-04-21 01:57:39 PM

IXI Jim IXI: PC LOAD LETTER: NICE

Some people always biatch about how we're constantly saving the world, but they forget that it shows that we are strong, kind, and possibly worth emulating. It might not be the people we are helping that get that message at that time, but it's a message worth pushing...especially after Bush tried to strong-arm that message in Iraq.

THIS.

Phil Herup		2009-04-21 01:59:07 PM

IXI Jim IXI: Most of Europe seems to think less of now than in 2000, for one.

And yes, everyone runs to us. It's an imposition, but would you rather China held that kind of a role?

Most of Europe are spineless non-confrontational left wing loons. Their Gallic laziness combines with there Latinate voluptuousness with the result that they would rather eat and make love with their faces than do the right thing.

As far as running to us when they need us, they have short memories.

someonelse		2009-04-21 01:59:18 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Phil Herup: sleep deprivation weakens us as a country

I notice you didn't say waterboarding. Did you know Waterboarding was banned in Vietnam? We had 70,000+ people killed there. You would think that such a harmless technique would be used regularly to save all the lives we could save.

Not to mention the fact that the U.S. convicted Japanese prison camp officers of waterboarding U.S. troops.

shirtsbyeric		2009-04-21 01:59:24 PM

Erebus1954: Trollomite: He has pissed off everybody! Including his base, which I find hilarious! I still have my guns, gays are still living in twice the sin, he isn't going to prosecute anyone from the previous administration.

He's the real McSame.

HuSame

Phil Herup		2009-04-21 02:00:14 PM

IXI Jim IXI: After the last guy runs the country into the ground, he has to pay for repairs.

Caveat emptor.

tedbundee		2009-04-21 02:01:45 PM

BladBoy: The 'Liters are drinking and submitting again.

Good thing the Moderators/Administrators/Monkeys in Suits are on the ball.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:02:13 PM

Phil Herup:

Most of Europe are spineless non-confrontational left wing loons. Their Gallic laziness combines with there Latinate voluptuousness with the result that they would rather eat and make love with their faces than do the right thing.

As far as running to us when they need us, they have short memories.

Who else do you suggest we ally ourselves with? Do we have more in common with the Russians?

danwiseman		2009-04-21 02:02:33 PM

ok back the fudge up. Obama has DONE a ton of stuff (to attempt)to move the country in the right direction. Unlike the first 100 days of dubya, where basically nothing happened except for a few religion-backed policy changes.

Whether or not what he's doing will help is still up for debate, but he's an extremely active president.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:02:56 PM

Phil Herup: Caveat emptor.

If only someone would have been throwing that phrase around in 2003.

Phil Herup		2009-04-21 02:03:35 PM

someonelse: Not to mention the fact that the U.S. convicted Japanese prison camp officers of waterboarding U.S. troops.

What else did the Japanese do to our men? clicky (pops)

Waterboarding was refreshing compared to most of the other crimes they suffered.

NeverDrunk23		2009-04-21 02:04:22 PM

IXI Jim IXI: GanjSmokr: So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

Imagine that. After the last guy runs the country into the ground, he has to pay for repairs.

ZOMG, stop bringing Bush into this! He's out of office and he cannot do anything to you anymore! Move on! Stop 'But Bushing!' everything! AUGH!

Oh, by the way, let me systematically list the 15 bajillion things Bush had to deal with when first taking office all thanks to Clinton screwing up. Bush tried to do his best, BUT CLINTON left him such a huge mess.

What...? Obama is trying to recover from Bush's terms...? I really don't see what Bush has to do with anything Obama is deciding on. Stop bringing Bush up. Now, that Clinton though.....

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:04:57 PM

GaryPDX: Right now it's Venezuela.

Nice try, but no...unless receiving a book from someone means they're married.

Corvus		2009-04-21 02:05:20 PM

????

Phil Herup		2009-04-21 02:05:25 PM

IXI Jim IXI: Who else do you suggest we ally ourselves with? D

I am not suggesting any other allies at all, merely that we need not apologize to anyone for anything.

Nemo's Brother		2009-04-21 02:05:36 PM

Edsel: Ex Parte Gilligan: Edsel: I think he's done a fine job so far, particularly given the circumstances that he's had to work with. The thing I would have like to have seen him address, at least in a preliminary sense, is entitlement reform but that is going to be a heavy lift so I'm willing to give it a chance.

Meh. The man can spread himself a bit too thin, but yeah nothing wrong in my opinion with putting a stake in the ground on this subject. I do kinda wish he had upped his 100M mark to 1B; that coulda been managed much better. He could have done something like focus on each of the "down-market" departments like Interior, Agriculture; reviewed objectives AND asked for 100M in savings from each department.

Lost in the discussion of the 100M cuts was his announcement that over the next few months some departments will be cut entirely - the final spending cuts will probably be a lot more.

The departments will be cut to funnel that money into other projects. Nothing will be cut. You are a teasing yourself if you believe that. If Obama cuts $100,000,000 and the budget is still bigger than last year's, is it really a cut?

tin_man		2009-04-21 02:06:58 PM

Chimpy McChange: tin_man: Hopey McChange is stupider than the Chimpy McFlightsuit crap.

Might I offer a compromise?

YES!!!

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:07:27 PM

NeverDrunk23: ZOMG, stop bringing Bush into this! He's out of office and he cannot do anything to you anymore! Move on! Stop 'But Bushing!' everything! AUGH!

If you don't think Obama has major repairs to take care of, or if you think that Bush was handed the controls in anything NEAR the situation Obama was, you're crazy.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:08:06 PM

GaryPDX: Dude, Obama, Carter and Chavez all share the same ideology, Mutant Marxism.

I thought he was a facist?

MFL		2009-04-21 02:08:55 PM

PC LOAD LETTER Truly a dizzying intellect. For every George Soros, there's another Bernanke. No one has the slightest idea of what the hell they are doing.

George Soros is farking the real life Dr. Evil. But the guy knows currencies better than anyone.

Obama's smart: it's better to be criticized for doing SOMETHING that for doing NOTHING. I don't care if it's a dog/pony show; he has to make the public believe that the Government is not fiddling while Rome burns (which is the Republican "recovery" plan.

A. Rome isn't burning...yet.

B. The government isn't fiddling, it's acquiring and controlling.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:10:14 PM

Phil Herup: I am not suggesting any other allies at all, merely that we need not apologize to anyone for anything.

Well, I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on that. The torture thing alone shows great disrespect to the few allied who backed us in Iraq.

IXI Jim IXI		2009-04-21 02:10:57 PM

GaryPDX: lol..I said it was Mutant. Nazi's were National Socialists. It's a mutation and it's lunacy. But hey..I'm just a troll.

So...is he still sekrit muslim, too? :D

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