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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Two fifth-graders who looked at porn on a school computer may face criminal charges   (sltrib.com) divider line 143
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2009-04-16 02:12:42 AM
UTAH


/That is all.
//Oh, and "think of the children."
 
2009-04-16 02:20:31 AM
THANK GOD I am no longer in school.
I imagine many many many farkers also share this sentiment.

\College don't count.
 
2009-04-16 02:26:08 AM
Uchiha_Cycliste: THANK GOD I am no longer in school.
I imagine many many many farkers also share this sentiment.

\College don't count.


I think this all the freaking time. The person who should get in trouble is the stupid net admin that didn't have the proxy/filter set up right.
 
2009-04-16 02:28:30 AM
Gwendolyn: Uchiha_Cycliste: THANK GOD I am no longer in school.
I imagine many many many farkers also share this sentiment.

\College don't count.

I think this all the freaking time. The person who should get in trouble is the stupid net admin that didn't have the proxy/filter set up right.


T to tha H to tha Farkin' I-S
 
2009-04-16 02:28:57 AM
"Our main emphasis is not to hammer these kids," Ludlow said. "If we can get them into the juvenile justice system and make sure they're getting some counseling or other services, that's our end goal."

I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.
 
2009-04-16 02:30:42 AM
Jeebus... Rule 34 of the Internet more or less makes it a given that at any time, despite any and all filters, porn can always be accessed if one searches vigorously enough.
Judicial system? Charges? WTF? How about having "the talk" with the kids, like REAL PARENTS instead of going ballistic on the school?

Yeah, I'd better learn to take such shiat in stride, since I'll probably be a fully fledged teacher come August. The bright point is that I'll be a teacher in Denmark, outrage is a bit harder to come by here.
 
2009-04-16 02:31:05 AM
Urge to murder...rising...
 
2009-04-16 02:32:46 AM
Gwendolyn: "Our main emphasis is not to hammer these kids," Ludlow said. "If we can get them into the juvenile justice system and make sure they're getting some counseling or other services, that's our end goal."

I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.


Yeah, that one had me tongue tied (type tied?) as well. I guess parenting is as hot and modern as woven-grass horse shoes, these days?
 
2009-04-16 02:32:59 AM
Gwendolyn: "Our main emphasis is not to hammer these kids," Ludlow said. "If we can get them into the juvenile justice system and make sure they're getting some counseling or other services, that's our end goal."

I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.


So much so that I couldn't even reply right.
 
2009-04-16 02:37:21 AM
GAT_00: Urge to murder...rising...

Live, from Broadway, it's the Tony Awards, with your hosts Tyne Daly and Hal Linden!
 
2009-04-16 02:43:42 AM
Interesting. I don't recall a discussion involving criminal charges when I was caught with several magazines in my bag. Lots (lots) of conversation about straining God's patience with me, breaking my mother's heart, and 4 Saturdays of Breakfast Club...but not one goddamned word about "charges."

In the year 2009 and with a fast internet connection, I'm jaded enough as to offer my "wtf"s rarely and with good cause. This is one of times.

WTF
 
2009-04-16 02:47:06 AM
Gwendolyn: "Our main emphasis is not to hammer these kids," Ludlow said. "If we can get them into the juvenile justice system and make sure they're getting some counseling or other services, that's our end goal."

I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.


I'll tell you why it does, Gwendolyn: you've detected that this assclown is not specifically referring to "just do it at home instead of in school, kids". You've figured out that he wants to cleanse these fallen innocents!!! of their natural inclination to temptation!!!. They have had their first taste of the delights of lewd entertainment!!, apparently; the school dude sees that there's no time to waste in setting these little ones back on the path to ignorant childhood.

Granted, I don't think it's wise to tolerate kids checking out porn magazines in the school lunch room, but we all know this jerk has a broader agenda.
 
2009-04-16 02:48:35 AM
Gwendolyn: I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.

tee hee hee.
Whatcha all in for?
I stabbed by pa with a steak knife.
I was selling crack on the street corner.
We tried to rob a liquor store.
I was running with a gang.
My teacher caught me smoking crystal in the bathroom.
We...um...we looked at a naked lady.
Say what?!?
Yeah, we looked at a naked lady at school.
That's farked up yo...wanna learn to sell crack?
 
2009-04-16 02:55:02 AM
Uchiha_Cycliste: Gwendolyn: I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.

tee hee hee.
Whatcha all in for?
I stabbed by pa with a steak knife.
I was selling crack on the street corner.
We tried to rob a liquor store.
I was running with a gang.
My teacher caught me smoking crystal in the bathroom.
We...um...we looked at a naked lady.
Say what?!?
Yeah, we looked at a naked lady at school.
That's farked up yo...wanna learn to sell crack?


Somewhere, a kid who was busted for passing along his excess pot to his girlfriend's sister is getting a kick out of this reply.
 
2009-04-16 02:58:14 AM
EverWatcher: Gwendolyn: "Our main emphasis is not to hammer these kids," Ludlow said. "If we can get them into the juvenile justice system and make sure they're getting some counseling or other services, that's our end goal."

I the amount of stupid in this quote astounds me.

I'll tell you why it does, Gwendolyn: you've detected that this assclown is not specifically referring to "just do it at home instead of in school, kids". You've figured out that he wants to cleanse these fallen innocents!!! of their natural inclination to temptation!!!. They have had their first taste of the delights of lewd entertainment!!, apparently; the school dude sees that there's no time to waste in setting these little ones back on the path to ignorant childhood.

Granted, I don't think it's wise to tolerate kids checking out porn magazines in the school lunch room, but we all know this jerk has a broader agenda.




Yup. Who cares about their education - it's the SOUL we have to worry about first, then comes the lernin'!
 
2009-04-16 03:30:37 AM
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Al Swearengen wanted for questioning.
 
2009-04-16 03:43:00 AM
Shouldn't the parents be suing the school for allowing porn through their filters? That's how these stories usually go.
 
2009-04-16 03:43:12 AM
My computer teacher in high school - we were lucky enough to be on computers that *didn't* have filters, and we knew it - put it simply:

"I know you might "accidentally" click on something inappropriate, but you should be smart enough to tell from the url if it's safe or not. And you shouldn't be downloading attachments or clicking links you don't know anyway.

As for www.whitehouse.com, I'll forgive you the first time. Not the second."

One kid made it to the second time. The yelling we heard from her closed office was awesome. But he didn't face charges, or even suspension. He just got chewed out enough where he wouldn't do it again.

And I didn't even graduate *that* long ago.

Damn happy I'm not in high school now.
 
2009-04-16 03:43:41 AM
Looking at porn is now criminal? Only in Utah.
 
2009-04-16 03:47:24 AM
"...but some people are wondering how they were able to access the images in the first place."

People actually think content filters work?
 
2009-04-16 03:47:44 AM
From the article: "It's a little disappointing to hear people say, "Boys will be boys.' ... I don't know what the magic age is when people can stop saying 'Well, boys will be boys.'"

Here. I'll make this easier.

They're still boys.
 
2009-04-16 03:49:23 AM
Speaking as a parent of eleven children in Utah, which I am not, this is exactly why I don't let my kids go to school!
 
2009-04-16 03:54:13 AM
The incident came to light when one child told a parent and another told the principal.

Beat them to a bloody pulp
 
2009-04-16 03:56:54 AM
they is not that bad of a preson everyboby makes musates they a great boys she should have not done what they did but everybodt dose rong
 
2009-04-16 03:57:09 AM
This is Utah we're talking about. "Lesbian porn" there means "two women looking at each other".
 
2009-04-16 03:58:16 AM
/gis "lesbians"...

I'll be in my bunk.
 
2009-04-16 03:58:52 AM
Instead of saying you are happy you aren't in school now, how about saying you are happy you don't live in Utah. All jokes aside, it's hard to imagine a worse place to live. The alcohol is watered down, you live surrounded by Mormons, and apparently everyone walks around with purity rings on.
 
2009-04-16 04:01:37 AM
Cashew: The incident came to light when one child told a parent and another told the principal.

Beat them to a bloody pulp


A kid who tells on another kid is a dead kid.
 
2009-04-16 04:02:55 AM
ftfa "Boys will be boys.'



img.photobucket.com
 
2009-04-16 04:03:36 AM
Actually, it's not that they looked at porn. It's that they showed it to nine classmates.
And since when do fifth graders have access to the internet at school?
 
2009-04-16 04:07:30 AM
Otto's_Jacket: $#&!^%*#@%$%&!*#!$*!!!!


This kind of shiat makes me want to just hammer the


Patron Anejo, Blanton's, Appleton...who took this photo of my home bar?
 
2009-04-16 04:07:31 AM
Dammit Utah, this is why the rest of us can't have nice things! Just chew the kids out, tell the parents, let them chew the kids out, and forget about it.

/got in trouble looking up 'porn' in high school
//I was looking up Da Vinci's 'Vitruvian Man' for art class
 
2009-04-16 04:08:20 AM
This is actually quite scary to me because heck, isn't is something a lot of 5th graders would do if they had the chance? Recalling back to ancient history when I was a 5th grader, if internet had existed back then, I would have definetly tried to type in boobies or something along that same topic to see what comes up. With the filter off, obviously p0rn would have come up and I would have shown it to all my classmates. And 5th graders would probably all react along the lines of : "oh, gross, disgusting, that's what adults do?" I wasn't a rowdy kid by any means in 5th grade. It's just normal curiosity. 5th graders don't think of consequences...they're kids.

And now, I suppose to these utter morans in the school district in question, it's a criminal offense. Unbelievable. I would like to think the DA will decide not to charge these kids - but I am not hopeful at all.
 
2009-04-16 04:08:59 AM
Police were called last week after two 11-year-old boys at Forbes Elementary School pulled up images of sexual acts on a school computer

Well Thank God for the swift action of the police protecting us from the diabolic plans of these two hardened criminals. I feel safer already.
 
2009-04-16 04:17:02 AM
theFrakamazog: Police were called last week after two 11-year-old boys at Forbes Elementary School pulled up images of sexual acts on a school computer

Well Thank God for the swift action of the police protecting us from the diabolic plans of these two hardened criminals. I feel safer already.


Yes. We all know there is no redeeming feature whatsoever about sexual acts. Nope, not one benefit whatsoever. They're just evil and wrong and we should have as little knowledge of them as possible, because that won't lead to ANY problems further down the road, no, not at all.
 
2009-04-16 04:22:03 AM
Southern Atheist: Otto's_Jacket: $#&!^%*#@%$%&!*#!$*!!!!


This kind of shiat makes me want to just hammer the

Patron Anejo, Blanton's, Appleton...who took this photo of my home bar?



Someone forget the likes of the Jameson's, fer frkk sake??
 
2009-04-16 04:24:11 AM
I keep coming to the conclusion: EVERYONE is a criminal because so many acts were created out of whole cloth into criminal violations of state and federal law.

I have also come to the conclusion that there are crimes in the common law sense (thou shalt not), and there are violations of regulations which are classified as misdemeanors and felonies. Of course there are new behaviors which are novel and classified as crime in the square peg-round hole sense.

Of course there is the other legal fiction of children being able to behave in ways which can be construed as criminal intent which is really little more than prosecutorial misconduct writ large.
 
2009-04-16 04:25:44 AM
America, Land of the FreeTM
 
2009-04-16 04:26:09 AM
SirEattonHogg: Recalling back to ancient history when I was a 5th grader, if internet had existed back then, I would have definetly tried to type in boobies or something along that same topic to see what comes up.

Hey, at that age I got a thrill typing 5318008 into a calculator and turning it upside down.
 
2009-04-16 04:28:31 AM
Pretty much everything that happened in my entire childhood, good and bad- at home, at school and with friends is now considered illegal, child abuse or both.

And I'm still under 30.

How the fark do people think the human race survived until now?
 
2009-04-16 04:35:57 AM
Christ on a cracker! They're 11 year old boys, it's normal that they are curious about things sexual. Singling them out for punishment could possibly harm their development. I can't believe that they are considering criminal charges. If anyone needs punishing, the person in charge of IT at the school should be the one to be punished.

When I was in 6th grade, one of the boys in my class, whose uncle was a merchant marine, brought in a deck of cards with ladies with big boobs having it off with men with their faces blanked out (why do/did they do that, blanking out faces of the guys and not the women?). One of the nuns saw what we were looking at and all she did was take them away. No police, no suspension. Several decades of the rosary and mandatory confession was all the punishment we got, plus a 'phone call to our parents.
 
2009-04-16 04:36:52 AM
I'm a pretty conservative guy, but come on.
It's not a big deal. Boys are curious.

The moron says he doesn't want to hammer them yet he follows it with this: "If we can get them into the juvenile justice system and make sure they're getting some counseling or other services, that's our end goal." That's not hammering them?

Since when do boys need counseling for wanting to see some nice hot, soft, naked and curvy....wait where was I?

Whatever happened to telling kids "don't do it again."?

I hate prudes.
 
2009-04-16 04:42:54 AM
King Something: UTAH

'Nuff said.
 
2009-04-16 04:53:30 AM
When you don't teach kids what things like "lesbians" are, then they'll try to find out for themselves. But then again Heavenly Father strictly forbids curiosity of any kind (since it leads straight to damnation and goat worship) so they'd best make an example out of them.
 
2009-04-16 05:17:34 AM
binaryhermit: Actually, it's not that they looked at porn. It's that they showed it to nine classmates.
And since when do fifth graders have access to the internet at school?


Since like 1996 man
 
2009-04-16 05:22:28 AM
...they typed the word "lesbian" into a search engine and were able to pull up pictures...

Yo, it's a good thing that I've had exposure to online porn since way back in the Nineteen Hundred and Eighties when you had to dial up to Compuserve. Nowadays, porn is so available that I'm all porned out, dudes. Keep it real, playaz!
 
2009-04-16 05:24:36 AM
They have the interwebs in Utah now?
 
vhx
2009-04-16 05:26:52 AM
So kids interested in sex deserve criminal charges? The prosecutor sounds like a Grade A douchebag.
 
2009-04-16 05:35:35 AM
ZurkisPhreek: Jeebus... Rule 34 of the Internet more or less makes it a given that at any time, despite any and all filters, porn can always be accessed if one searches vigorously enough.
Judicial system? Charges? WTF? How about having "the talk" with the kids, like REAL PARENTS instead of going ballistic on the school?

Yeah, I'd better learn to take such shiat in stride, since I'll probably be a fully fledged teacher come August. The bright point is that I'll be a teacher in Denmark, outrage is a bit harder to come by here.


...How hard is it to obtain citizenship, and how hard is Danish to learn?
 
2009-04-16 05:51:41 AM
They want to send kids to JAIL for looking at porn? (I think Juvie counts.) Good lord, this country has gone down the toilet. Everybody I know would have been locked up, had this sort of nonsense been around when I was in school.
 
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