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2009-04-14 01:13:21 AM
boybunny: The chance that you were building web pages before 1996 is so tiny that you almost certainly did not.

It's amazing how this has morphed from FEMA death camp > standard 9/11 Truth flamewar > argument about the origin of the Web. Unexpected, but maintains a level of stupidity throughout.

The 1996 assertion is just so amazingly moronic that I had to reply. I had a personal Web page in June of 1995 -- it's moved hosts a few times, but I kept the date stamp. No big deal -- HTML 1.0 was a snap. You can even find the announcement I posted to comp.infosystems.www.announce a few weeks later (back in the good old days when people posted their URLs to USENET).

Plenty of people had Web pages before 1996.
 
2009-04-14 01:13:57 AM
ZipSplat: boybunny: Really? Well considering the Americans I talked to online in 1998 it was common in 1998 for monthly connections to cost $200-300 US.

If you were paying more than 19.95 per month for internet access and $10 for a separate phone line in 1998, you are an idiot who missed the memos about the new "Unlimited Access" plans.


Well I did know a lot of advanced users. I doubt that they would have missed such a great deal. Myself, I used the cheapest plan, the cheapest of 2 available in New Zealand at the time... as My future wife did... it cost a little over $500 US per month.

Until today, I have NEVER heard of $29 US accounts in USA before 1999. Which makes me believe that more than a few of you are lying. Of course, none of you will admit to it, since your whole persona depends so much on being hard core first net users... no matter when after 2000 you got online.

But as I am sure you, and many others have already read, It is either a truce now, or this argument will have no end... and I mean literally. I have been chased across threads on this one, so I am happy to learn from your mob and follow suit. If you really want me to point out that I believe that you are a liar in threads that have nothing to do with the early days of the internet, then go ahead, lets keep fighting.
 
2009-04-14 01:14:39 AM
maxheck: ChiliBoots:

You can follow me around all you want, it's no skin off my back. I have never put anyone on ignore and I won't be doing it for you either. Feel free to do so yourself though.

Your new internet stalker is the same guy who says he has a chart of structural steel modeling "on some old hard drive" that proves some of his claims. That's as close as he's come to sourcing anything in this thread.

Yet he still feels that you owe *him.*

I wonder if we can get a full-on "I've raped people for less!" meltdown out of him?

Yep, the deliberate troll / borderline emotional problems question is slowly tipping toward the latter.


Yeah, I kinda feel bad about giving some weirdo my old high school's number, that's going to be a bizarre call for the secretaries if he actually goes through with it. I'll probably get a timeout even if it is a public office number.

I'm going to have to forward the thread to my old classmates who wrote PDP-11 emulators for Ontario's nuclear plants (OPG didn't want to rewrite the control software for newer hardware). They should get a kick out the thermodynamics comments.
 
2009-04-14 01:15:21 AM
boybunny: Trust me, not going away...

You mean you're going to keep providing us with this wonderful entertainment? I thank you, sir.

You're either a clown, or a nut, but either way, I'm wondering just how long and far you're going to take this.
 
2009-04-14 01:16:02 AM
tryptik: HeartBurnKid: Once again, it's fact check time!

Tell me you guys are wasting time on him for fun...


Pretty much, yeah. I call it counter-trolling.
 
2009-04-14 01:17:23 AM
boybunny: Until today, I have NEVER heard of $29 US accounts in USA before 1999. Which makes me believe that more than a few of you are lying.

And, of course, I got the Internet Archive in on my lie, right? Everybody's against you, huh?
 
2009-04-14 01:19:00 AM
boybunny: Still pre release. So you received pre release software from a service that had no other options. You have proven your point (sarcasm). What part of "modern internet" are you missing? When did you first have to upgrade your software to remain compatible with the new HTML 1.0 standard?

That month, actually. And as much as you want to squirm about it, 0.9 was the general release of Mosaic Netscape. 1.0 came out in January 1995. Of course, I guess you can just waffle about what constitutes "modern internet" but to me it's anything past using gopher. HTML pages were out in 1993, by 1994 GNN was taking advertisements from MasterCard on its webpage.

boybunny: The IMSAI was useless junk... couldn't you have waited for a year for something with at least a keyboard and a screen for less cash?

Why wait? I couldn't see into the future a year to know that it would be coming out, eh? But it was hooked up to an old KSR33 that I was using with the ham rig, I couldn't afford a video terminal. Hell, I couldn't afford a TRS80. I got a deal on the IMSAI when the guys I was working for discovered they couldn't use it for the project they were working on at the time.



boybunny: I will keep this up for days on this thread. this whole argument was history days ago... but if you aresholes are going to bring it up every time you see me make a comment on any issue, then I WILL stand my ground for days... I WILL follow you from thread to thread as you lot have done to me... we either all stop the argument, or we all argue until someone leaves... I doubt it will be me. Put me on ignore, but you had all put me on ignore because if any of you chase me around Fark with this argument, then I will keep at you.

Yep, I'm thinking psychopath at this point. Incredibly, some of us did have computers. Hell, I even had access to mainframes at work, after hours. Nothing like pecking out your first BASIC program on the USCEC mainframes. On a KSR33. (might have been an ASR)

boybunny: I will start demanding that you post proud pics of a spotty teenager with his new second hand IMSAI box... because back then it was a big deal getting your first computer... someone would have taken photos of you with it.

Good luck with your demand. I don't think I have a half-dozen pics of me anywhere before the early 80's, but those that exist are family shots, no computer porn. By late 1979 you could have gotten a Radio Shack color computer or an Atari 400, it wasn't the big hairy newspaper photo deal you are making it out to be.

This is as much fun as that guy with OCD that couldn't stop in the haiku contest with me back in 2004. We went on for weeks until Drew finally cut the thread off. Good luck.
 
2009-04-14 01:21:45 AM
maxheck: boybunny:

Really? Well considering the Americans I talked to online in 1998 it was common in 1998 for monthly connections to cost $200-300 US. How could you have received $25 per month in 1993? If you had such a deal, why didn't every American use the same deal?

The only person I have ever known who paid that much for dialup was my brother's idiot roommate who was chatting up his fat out-of-state girlfriend 12 whom he met on AOL for 12 hours a day. That wasn't you, was it? Maybe where you met your wife perhaps?

There were *scads* of ISPs offering unlimited accounts... A five year contract at Erols in the D.C. area was $19 / month.

HeartBurnKid posted a 1996 EarthLink price schedule in his 2009-04-13 09:57:28 PM post.

Just because all you knew in 1998 was AOL does not mean that the web didn't exist before your parents bought that Packard Bell they kept in the family room.

Give it up kid... You can BS about "It takes a minimum of 6 hours for structural steel to soften!" all you like (ignoring that you can soften tool steel in minutes using charcoal and a good breeze) but you really can't tell a bunch of Farkers that they don't know what it's like being online.


You have not even gone to look up the original thread where this internet argument comes from. I described my early computer use in a little detail there. In fact my parents refused to buy a computer because they were things only weirdos used... turns out they were right... but unlike you, I had to work to buy my first machine after I left my parents place... That's what happens when you lose access to your parents basement... something your parents have obviously not had the spine to do yet.

I am suggesting a cease fire on the internet argument. I can and will continue it indefinitely if you wish. It is pointless, and so far off topic... it actually never WAS a topic here... just a personal attack brought here by an arsehole who wanted a way to attack me by bringing up an argument days old. I HAVE learned from that arsehole and will use the same tactics if people wish.

Oh, on the topic of steel, which at least has SOME relevance to the thread considering Popular Mechanics ruined its reputation over it. Try to remember that heat transfers. Heat transfers best along metals. How long do you believe that piece of steel would take to heat up if it were connected to 500 ton of steel acting like a massive heat sink?
 
2009-04-14 01:23:11 AM
boybunny:
Please get a brain and find out what you are arguing. We are talking about the modern net. Which can be pinpointed with the standardization of the HTTP standard in 1996.


Ah, the 'no true scotsman' fallacy.

"No true Scotsman, or the self-sealing fallacy, is a logical fallacy where the meaning of a term is ad hoc redefined to tautologically make a desired assertion about it true."

BBSs are a different beast altogether, but I somehow believe that many people somehow confuse BBSs and larger BBS services as the "internet".

I'm referring to Archie. Veronica. Gopher. FTP. Usenet. All services on THE INTERNET. ALL of which I has access to in the 80's. Now, you've moved the goal posts by saying that 'wasn't the real scotsmanInternet'.

I also believe that anyone who compares what users had back then to the modern standardized internet and still claims that it was the net back then is a simpleton to be kind.

Sure. And what Ford invented? Certainly not an automobile! I mean, anyone who compares what he created to the modern standardized cars and still claims that it was a automobile back then is a simpleton to be kind.

I do doubt that you purchased the original Mac in 1984 though.

You're right, I didn't. My Mother did. I was around 13 at the time. Mac Plus, 1mb RAM, expandable to 4mb. 1 800kb floppy drive (she purchased a second, external floppy drive as well). A 9 (I think- I don't remember exactly) inch black-and-white screen. I saved up and bought a 30mb (megabyte) hard drive for it. And later, a 2400 baud modem. Then 9600baud, then 14.4.

If you truly did purchase one in 84, then blame the people who have jumped on the trendy Mac bandwagon by lying about their experience.
Not only did my mother buy one, she still owns it. And the Performa 450 that eventually replaced it. And the mac clone that replaced that.

She now owns a Dell.
 
2009-04-14 01:23:45 AM
boybunny: Well I did know a lot of advanced users. I doubt that they would have missed such a great deal.

*sigh*. Remember all those "AOL busy signal" jokes? Maybe they didn't make it down to New Zealand. That was when AOL, the largest ISP in the US at the time switched over to their unlimited plan on December 1, 1996. $19.95/month for all-you-can-eat.

If you're going to argue something as demonstrably false as this, well, good day to you.
 
2009-04-14 01:24:20 AM
boybunny:

Well I did know a lot of advanced users. I doubt that they would have missed such a great deal. Myself, I used the cheapest plan, the cheapest of 2 available in New Zealand at the time... as My future wife did... it cost a little over $500 US per month.

So, wait... You're in New Zealand and didn't even have an internet account until 1998.

You're coming in here telling a bunch of U.S. Farkers (who are in a position to know) about how much it cost to get an internet account in the U.S. years before that.

Not only that, but you are *so* very dead sure of yourself that you're spending hours calling us liars on a topic that you self-admittedly know nothing about.

Now THAT is some Independent Thinking! Not at all like troofers and AGW deniers.

Get help kid... Really.
 
2009-04-14 01:26:21 AM
These kind of people are EXACTLY why American schools need to teach things like rational thought, skepticism, and the scientific method. It's amazing; the people spewing this stuff have lost the ability to differentiate between reality and the imagination run amok inside their heads.

What really makes the while situation tragically ironic is how this conspiracy junk distracts people away from actually monitoring the government. They're so caught up in finding out what really happened September 2001 that the government's real schemes are hatched in broad daylight.
 
2009-04-14 01:28:04 AM
boybunny: I am suggesting a cease fire on the internet argument. I can and will continue it indefinitely if you wish. It is pointless, and so far off topic... it actually never WAS a topic here... just a personal attack brought here by an arsehole who wanted a way to attack me by bringing up an argument days old. I HAVE learned from that arsehole and will use the same tactics if people wish.

Ooooh... look at me, I'm shaking!

Seriously, let's do this dance again next time you spout off something truly retarded with no foundation in objective reality. It was really fun slapping you across the face with your own ignorance again. I can't guarantee I'll be there to slap you down next time, mind (I do have a life, after all), but hey, next time I see you being stupid, I'll make sure to point out that you're a troofer who was paying $500 a month for dialup in 1998.
 
2009-04-14 01:28:50 AM
boybunny: nuclear reactor professionals

That's not a real title. You realize that, right?
 
2009-04-14 01:31:29 AM
boybunny: New Zealand

What boybunny may look like:
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2009-04-14 01:32:37 AM
redsquid: boybunny- I had people turn up from Europe occasionally and ask me for my autograph, and there was not one computer person anywhere in the world I could not contact through one friend or another.

Hey virgin- you owe me a keyboard! While your at it get some ice for that chest-thumping bruise.


hahaha :) That is just hilarious. A nerd claiming someone else is a virgin! Sorry, but out here in the real world, well we have these things call women... at a young age we call them girls... I am hapy t give details. I turned my first admirer down at 11 years old.. repeatedly. I was mainly worried about pregnancy. I had condoms at 12, but at 13 my mother found them and burned them one week before the second girl stripped and demanded sex... I turned her down, but got more condoms a week later (I lived in the country so trips to the pharmacy had to be planed)... A couple of months later I had a regular partner... I was a father a few days after my 17th birthday, but it was planned. Since then, I have spent probably 1 year out of 20 without someone living with me... you know, those things called women. Sometimes two women at the same time... but those arrangements do not last long normally. I have also fathered many children, and have turned down a few women who only wanted me to father children with no strings... though I have turned them down so far.

So nerd... let us know when you get to first base.

Oh, and I repeat... either a cease fire, or this continues indefinitely, because this argument has followed me around from thread to thread, I will return the favor. Trust me, it is not pleasant to not be arguing the thread you intended because someone decides to follow you around like a stalker.
 
2009-04-14 01:33:09 AM
Sigh.

Where do these toowfers get off?

This one time, I was on this thread and this toowfer tried to tell me that Saddam and Osama didn't plan 911 together, and that there were no weapons of mass destruction.

What kind of tard thinks the gubmint would ever lie to people?

Anyone who thinks Saddam didn't have nukes and lazers and warp technology is a tard and needs to get out of their moms basement and get a BJ.

teh schools should be teaching the kids good, so people don't come up with this whack job shiat.
 
2009-04-14 01:35:36 AM
Naked Hitler: What kind of tard thinks the gubmint would ever lie to people?

Probably the same kinds of tards who don't understand what a false dilemma is, just on the other side of the spectrum from the troofers, and a little less self-righteous.
 
2009-04-14 01:36:07 AM
ZipSplat: boybunny: Hypocrisy is not an admirable personality trait.

It's deliciously ironic that you say that, seeing as how you haven't posted anything resembling a substantiation of your claims.


But I was not asking YOU to add citations... without giving any citations... I was just pointing out YOUR hypocrisy. I ever expected you to actually supply a citation... since you were obviously a hypocrite.

Read the other replies... same offer and warning. Either stop being an arsehole, or get yourself your own thread stalker.
 
2009-04-14 01:37:32 AM
boybunny: redsquid: boybunny- I had people turn up from Europe occasionally and ask me for my autograph, and there was not one computer person anywhere in the world I could not contact through one friend or another.

Hey virgin- you owe me a keyboard! While your at it get some ice for that chest-thumping bruise.

hahaha :) That is just hilarious. A nerd claiming someone else is a virgin! Sorry, but out here in the real world, well we have these things call women... at a young age we call them girls... I am hapy t give details. I turned my first admirer down at 11 years old.. repeatedly. I was mainly worried about pregnancy. I had condoms at 12, but at 13 my mother found them and burned them one week before the second girl stripped and demanded sex... I turned her down, but got more condoms a week later (I lived in the country so trips to the pharmacy had to be planed)... A couple of months later I had a regular partner... I was a father a few days after my 17th birthday, but it was planned. Since then, I have spent probably 1 year out of 20 without someone living with me... you know, those things called women. Sometimes two women at the same time... but those arrangements do not last long normally. I have also fathered many children, and have turned down a few women who only wanted me to father children with no strings... though I have turned them down so far.

So nerd... let us know when you get to first base.

Oh, and I repeat... either a cease fire, or this continues indefinitely, because this argument has followed me around from thread to thread, I will return the favor. Trust me, it is not pleasant to not be arguing the thread you intended because someone decides to follow you around like a stalker.


Oh, brilliant! The Casanova maneuver too! I applaud you; truly, you are a god among ignorant psychotics.

And why would anybody want a cease-fire when it's so much fun to watch you backpedal, jive, and explode?
 
2009-04-14 01:38:56 AM
ZipSplat: boybunny: Investigate 7-Eleven - n

A simple single cell creature that has no argument of its own, so must disguise a direct insult in a way that looks intelligent.

See also "Arsehole".

God that was about as nuanced and witty as a dead dog.


As was the original. What is your point? Trying unsuccessfully to pretty up an insult only to complain about the same in return... hmm I could tell you what I think of your personality and intellect... but I am going to hold off, because if you have any sense, I expect that we may have a cease fire... if not, then I can let yo know.
 
2009-04-14 01:40:13 AM
boybunny:

Oh, and I repeat... either a cease fire, or this continues indefinitely, because this argument has followed me around from thread to thread, I will return the favor. Trust me, it is not pleasant to not be arguing the thread you intended because someone decides to follow you around like a stalker.

Ah, but you see... When someone goes around making wild, unsourced claims, then promises to become a stalker if they don't get underage pics of the people who told him he's full of it... It's just too funny to give up.

img11.imageshack.us

I don't even have to go back to the old thread to see how full of it you are, and you argue the 9/11 stuff exactly as you've argued the internet stuff.

It's not exactly helping your credibility.

Do I get stalked too? I'm still hoping for your meltdown.
 
2009-04-14 01:42:36 AM
boybunny: I ever expected you to actually supply a citation... since you were obviously a hypocrite.

1) Those two groups of words form neither a complete sentence or idea.
2) I told you, I'm making no claims. I'm ridiculing you. Your kind reject rational discourse like it's the wrong blood type. Trying to reason with you is wasted breath. My interest in you is ridicule for the sake of my entertainment.

Dance for me, fool.
 
2009-04-14 01:44:10 AM
ChiliBoots: Where on Wikipedia did you find that? Seriously, stop surfing the net trying to find proof of your weak at best argument. If you want to draw this out. Remember that I did not drag this old argument up. Your cohort did, and you have continued it. If you continue this, I will continue this. I will last days... and since this argument is not going to die, I can follow you around the threads as well, unless you just agree that we ignore each other as much as humanly possible.

You can follow me around all you want, it's no skin off my back. I have never put anyone on ignore and I won't be doing it for you either. Feel free to do so yourself though.


I am tallying up the arseholes now. No ignore list... my favorites list... it allows me to follow you from thread to thread. Since this is never going to go away... I will join the club... your club. I was not the one following people from thread to thread... congratulations... you have a fan... one that isn't giving up.
 
2009-04-14 01:46:16 AM
maxheck: It's just too funny to give up.

I still can't fathom the $500 a month account in 1998. As best I recall, I had a slip/ppp account in January 1995 for maybe 50 bucks a month, and that was in Atlanta. Maybe NZ was just backward. Hell by 1998 we had an ISDN account at our new business and it still wasn't $500 a month. Two channels, bonded. A whacking big 128K throughput.
 
2009-04-14 01:46:38 AM
erewhon: boybunny: ... did the Google gods smile favorably on you?

Naw, the "I've got degrees in engineering and physics gods" did, though. As well as years of practical experience.

boybunny: The charts that I may still be able to find archived on an old HDD show clearly that the time to weaken a girder of that size at the maximum temperature takes from six hours to 18 hours...the shortest time is six hours at the maximum temperature that the jet fuel burns at in artificial circumstances, and 18 hours is the maximum time it takes for jet fuel to burn at its theoretical maximum temperature before it weakens steel of equivalent size.

The hard drive you had it on is filled with nonsense, in that case. At least you're finally starting to realize the size of the steel is a factor. There are many others. That time could be substantially less than six hours. That's because temperature is not heat, although heat causes temperature. The whole thing comes down to heat flow, mass, and alloy characteristics. Not a fixed time.

So, what sort of troofer are you? A thermitian, a fusionite, or an explosionist? Well, you could be a satellite energy beam guy but you seem to be able to put whole sentences together so I'm discounting that one.


You are the one who never mentioned the ammount of steel. My "nonsense" considers the size of the reinforcing steel... It has not been an issue, at least not for me, until you start comparing a tiny tool to hundreds of tons of metal.
 
2009-04-14 01:47:58 AM
ZipSplat: Dance for me, fool.

Ok, now that one has me laughing.
 
2009-04-14 01:48:11 AM
boybunny: I am tallying up the arseholes now. No ignore list... my favorites list... it allows me to follow you from thread to thread. Since this is never going to go away... I will join the club... your club. I was not the one following people from thread to thread... congratulations... you have a fan... one that isn't giving up.

As mentioned before, that's fine. I just replaced the hard drive in my home laptop that crashed last week and I've been busy at work though, so I don't know what all this hullabaloo is about, but it sure sounds sporting.
 
2009-04-14 01:48:13 AM
boybunny: I am tallying up the arseholes now. No ignore list... my favorites list... it allows me to follow you from thread to thread. Since this is never going to go away... I will join the club... your club. I was not the one following people from thread to thread... congratulations... you have a fan... one that isn't giving up.

It would be creepy if it seemed at all that he was serious. But since the obvious implication is that he's trying to intimidate people on the internet by threatening this "thread stalking", it's just pathetic. And that being the case, it's all the more entertaining to me.
 
2009-04-14 01:49:54 AM
ZipSplat: boybunny: I am tallying up the arseholes now. No ignore list... my favorites list... it allows me to follow you from thread to thread. Since this is never going to go away... I will join the club... your club. I was not the one following people from thread to thread... congratulations... you have a fan... one that isn't giving up.

It would be creepy if it seemed at all that he was serious. But since the obvious implication is that he's trying to intimidate people on the internet by threatening this "thread stalking", it's just pathetic. And that being the case, it's all the more entertaining to me.


And to me. I think I'm going to have to have a grinectomy when all is said and done.

farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2009-04-14 01:50:24 AM
This is going to be like Skookum's list in reverse.

"You're ALL GOING ON MY FAVORITES!!!"
 
2009-04-14 01:50:37 AM
boybunny: You are the one who never mentioned the ammount of steel. My "nonsense" considers the size of the reinforcing steel... It has not been an issue, at least not for me, until you start comparing a tiny tool to hundreds of tons of metal.

I think you're mixing me up with another guy here.

From my Boobies to you..I think...

"The thing is to reach a particular temperature in the area you need to weaken to cause that failure. And how long THAT takes is pretty tough to predict in terms of a structure. But some of the factors would include whether the steel is insulated there, the steel's cross-section, the specific heat of that alloy, how hot the adjacent areas of the beam(s) are to get the conducted losses, how hot, dense, and fast moving the gases are around the beam to get the convectional losses, how hot the background is to get the radiative losses etc. When you know all that, you could estimate how long it takes to reach the temperature where the steel will lose x% of its STP strength, with all the major heat inputs and outputs going on in the area of interest.

Unless you make a lot of simplifying assumptions, it's going to likely involve a system of differential equations, too, which would suck ass to solve, because all your sources and sinks are going to be affecting each other."
 
2009-04-14 01:51:56 AM
So whatta you all think... Should we tell him about the Farq, or do we let him carry out his threat now that he's laid out his clever plan?
 
2009-04-14 01:56:52 AM
Looks like he's slowing down (methinks his head finally a splode), and I do have work tomorrow, so I'm gonna call it a night.

Here's hoping for more entertainment tomorrow. boybunny, don't disappoint.
 
2009-04-14 01:58:53 AM
maxheck: So whatta you all think... Should we tell him about the Farq, or do we let him carry out his threat now that he's laid out his clever plan?

Ok - I got in trouble last time I lured a Farker into their own doom by giving them what they asked for. Grant you, it was some farker named "Che" asking for Tom Ridge's home phone number, so the example isn't exact.
 
2009-04-14 01:59:16 AM
HeartBurnKid:

Looks like he's slowing down (methinks his head finally a splode), and I do have work tomorrow, so I'm gonna call it a night.

He's out signing autographs from European computer professionals and turning down women who want to have his baby...
 
2009-04-14 02:00:26 AM
HeartBurnKid: Looks like he's slowing down (methinks his head finally a splode), and I do have work tomorrow, so I'm gonna call it a night.

Geez, no wonder my wife wandered in here wondering why I was chortling like a loon (thanks Zip). It's 1AM. Adios.
 
2009-04-14 02:01:39 AM
erewon:

Ok - I got in trouble last time I lured a Farker into their own doom by giving them what they asked for. Grant you, it was some farker named "Che" asking for Tom Ridge's home phone number, so the example isn't exact.

Well, no one followed him into this thread, and no one here *asked* to be followed into other threads, so, I doubt he could cry entrapment...

Hopefully he'll take the hint though.
 
2009-04-14 02:04:57 AM
ZipSplat: Dance for me, fool.

Oh such win!

So are we all in agreement about the internment camps or what? The thing is, the government doesn't need camps- we're all to busy arguing about stupid shiat to pose any real threat to anyone; except maybe boybunny's fragile mental state.

FARK- I saw the best minds of my generation make fart jokes and laugh at death.
 
2009-04-14 02:12:03 AM
boybunny- Sometimes two women at the same time... but those arrangements do not last long normally.

When your mommy gives you and your little sister a bath at the same time it is not considered a threesome. Now go make some coffee so you can keep this going.
 
2009-04-14 02:14:24 AM
boybunny: Myself, I used the cheapest plan, the cheapest of 2 available in New Zealand at the time... as My future wife did... it cost a little over $500 US per month.

Well, duh- your in New farking Zealand.

Until today, I have NEVER heard of $29 US accounts in USA before 1999. Which makes me believe that more than a few of you are lying. Of course, none of you will admit to it, since your whole persona depends so much on being hard core first net users... no matter when after 2000 you got online.

COmpuserve:
During the early 1990s the hourly rate fell from over $10 an hour to $1.95 an hour. ... AOL, however, introduced a far cheaper flat-rate, unlimited-time, advertisement-supported price plan ...CompuServe responded with a similar plan of its own at $24.95 per month in late 1997.

AOL:
Originally, AOL charged its users an hourly fee, but in 1996 this changed and a flat rate of $19.99 a month was charged.
 
2009-04-14 02:16:56 AM
Looks like he's done. Another Truther sucks his thumb in the bottom bunk tonight.

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2009-04-14 02:59:41 AM
airsupport: albo:
the conspiracy has been around since the 1950s. i think the UN troops in the Detroit salt mines were North Koreans back then

They've gotta be pretty weak and sickly by now.


Zack never gets tired... Never.

havaniceday: it's gas station surveillance, with that paticular side of the pentagon in it's view, and the video was privately owned by the gas station owner. They come and snatch it away and *ta-da* the only video evidence of what happened to that side of the pentagon gone forever.

Do you mean the one that was released after the Moussaoui trial was over and it was no longer needed as evidence? This one (^)? Then there's the Doubletree motel video (^) that was released after the same trial. Neither one shows very much because a) they are watching their own property with the Pentagon in the background and b) they're designed to record at no more that 1 second per frame as opposed to 24 frames so they are choppy as hell.

watch loose change, which is what I was talking about originally, before you get all "whharrrgarbl"

Loose Change is pure whharrrgarbl.

boybunny: and that the steel to be weakened needs to be at that temperature for six hours before it is weakened.

Fire at a paper mill:

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Warped steel, no jet fuel, got so hot, so fast, that the wood didn't have time to burn up all the way.

Oh, and as I have already explained... YOU did not look up the science around melting points of steel, but I did. It takes steel, heat and TIME to weaken or melt steel... six hours to weaken a girder is the time it takes.

Aaaand you might want to re-think that...

FINALLY.... WHERE THE fark DID THE SUPER THERMITE COME FROM?!?!?!

WHAT THE FARK IS SUPER THERMITE?!?!?!?!? See, I can go all caps too.

E.S.Q.: I missed the explanation of how the BBC reported on the collapse of WTC3 20 minutes before it came down. The building is standing tall in the background as the reporter is discussing it's fall.

Lil help with this one?


It was reported by FDNY at least an hour before it collapsed (NBC reported it was in danger of collapsing almost an hour before it actually collapsed) that they thought it was going to collapse soon. In the havoc of that day they reported it as it had collapsed. Pretty simple really. They also reported truck bombs going off near the offices of the Secretary of State earlier that morning. Just going for the scoop without verifying the facts. It happened a lot that day.
 
2009-04-14 03:27:59 AM
boybunny: ZipSplat: boybunny: Really? Well considering the Americans I talked to online in 1998 it was common in 1998 for monthly connections to cost $200-300 US.

If you were paying more than 19.95 per month for internet access and $10 for a separate phone line in 1998, you are an idiot who missed the memos about the new "Unlimited Access" plans.

Well I did know a lot of advanced users. I doubt that they would have missed such a great deal. Myself, I used the cheapest plan, the cheapest of 2 available in New Zealand at the time... as My future wife did... it cost a little over $500 US per month.

Until today, I have NEVER heard of $29 US accounts in USA before 1999. Which makes me believe that more than a few of you are lying. Of course, none of you will admit to it, since your whole persona depends so much on being hard core first net users... no matter when after 2000 you got online.

But as I am sure you, and many others have already read, It is either a truce now, or this argument will have no end... and I mean literally. I have been chased across threads on this one, so I am happy to learn from your mob and follow suit. If you really want me to point out that I believe that you are a liar in threads that have nothing to do with the early days of the internet, then go ahead, lets keep fighting.


WE HAVE REACHED OUR LEVEL OF BULLshiat!

New Zealand? New Zealand?!
Really?

You've dug yourself so far deep into your internet debate that you finally admitted that you're from New Zealand... How are you such an expert on American pricing if you're half a world away?

Wow, you're fun.

By the way, going way back to my "you win, here's a list of conspiracies" post. You may want to look up the definition of hyperbole because boy did you fail at that one.
 
2009-04-14 03:28:43 AM
ZipSplat: What an "Independent Thinker" may look like:

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BoyBunny's response:

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ZipSplat: It's deliciously ironic that you say that, seeing as how you haven't posted anything resembling a substantiation of your claims.

Truthers and their ilk never do.
 
2009-04-14 04:24:57 AM
Coyote
If that's true, it could easily be chalked up to video delay. Considering they were probably cut to the collapse, they were probably in the middle of reviewing things for the five millionth thing, then cut to the report while the video was laggy in catching up.

I am reminded of the other thread where the pron theif mugshot slabs and the camera info do not match up.
 
2009-04-14 04:27:04 AM
Coyote
You've dug yourself so far deep into your internet debate that you finally admitted that you're from New Zealand... How are you such an expert on American pricing if you're half a world away?


Dude, he DOES have internet access.

/But he's still a dingaling.
 
2009-04-14 06:55:24 AM
fredup1984: FEMA Camp Bill

Obviously this bill isn't real, or else Congress is full of conspiracy nuts too, right?


SHUT UP YOU! We'll have none of that here. You can't back up your crazy wrongheadedness with FACTS! You obviously hacked into govtrack to plant "evidence" of baseless nutjob conspiracies.

/ignore the man behind the curtain
//go back to sleep
 
2009-04-14 07:45:48 AM
A whole conspiracy theory thread and no one posted this meme yet...?

www.unisrv.net

/Oooo... I know... because there's a conspiracy not to post it!
 
2009-04-14 09:20:51 AM
and yet like all great myths there is a grain of truth to the story:

Halliburton got a $385 million contract to build just such facilities in Jan 2006 (new window)
 
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