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spamdog		2009-04-12 12:45:35 PM

There is shiat in the meat.

torch		2009-04-12 12:48:33 PM

I guess there goes my idea for a free-range pork sushi bar.

SilentStrider		2009-04-12 12:48:51 PM

Did you ever eat just one pistachio?

spamdog		2009-04-12 12:50:30 PM

Free range is not necessarily natural. And neither is its taste. In fact, free range is like piggy day care, a thoughtfully arranged system designed to meet the needs of consumers who despise industrial agriculture and adore the idea of wildness.

Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Funsucker		2009-04-12 01:07:19 PM

I cook my pork. I tend not to do that with my peanut butter.

notmtwain		2009-04-12 01:33:06 PM

Can you get salmonella from salmon?

// A quick search turned up the fact that the disease was named after Daniel Elmer Salmon, who helped isolate the bacteria in 1885.

///The more you know.

BrIcK908		2009-04-12 02:14:59 PM

I am a direct descendant of Mr. Salmon and actually his technician found the bacteria, but Elmer was adamant that all published works out of his lab be primarily credited to his work. Yeah he was kind of a di(k.

teto85		2009-04-12 03:00:03 PM

I don't have a problem with that. I found a place that sells kosher pork without the salmonella.

SF_iris		2009-04-12 03:33:19 PM

use everything but the squeal!

/time to re-read The Jungle

Gecko Gingrich		2009-04-12 03:35:38 PM

mmmmm...pork sashimi

JoeLinux		2009-04-12 03:36:18 PM

FunSucker

I cook my pork. I tend not to do that with my peanut butter.

Came in here to say this. If we are going to eliminate all potential sources of salmonella, goodbye to all chicken and eggs.

Nothing to see here, move along.

The Grinch		2009-04-12 03:38:01 PM

Shocker: free-range/organic/natural foods have their drawbacks just like industrially produced ones do. I'm glad we needed a frontpage link to some batshiat idiot's conspiracy blog (and really, is there any other kind?) to tell us that.

UnspokenVoice		2009-04-12 03:38:17 PM

The organic market is part of the green industry which, honestly, is about making green dollars and not one bit about doing anything to improve anything. It never has been about that, and never will. People are eating this stuff because it's the hip thing to do. I am, again, amused.

Sword and Shield		2009-04-12 03:41:57 PM

BrIcK908: I am a direct descendant of Mr. Salmon and actually his technician found the bacteria, but Elmer was adamant that all published works out of his lab be primarily credited to his work. Yeah he was kind of a di(k.

Pretty normal, actually. Name recognition helps when publishing- look how many authors a paper in JAMA may have, when only one grad student did the bulk of the work.

When I submitted a paper to the journal Development, my name was second to last of 13, and the only one who actually did the work. The others were the other grad students, and my PI.

portscanner		2009-04-12 03:43:11 PM

JoeLinux: FunSucker

I cook my pork. I tend not to do that with my peanut butter.

Came in here to say this. If we are going to eliminate all potential sources of salmonella, goodbye to all ~~chicken and eggs~~ food.

Nothing to see here, move along.

FTFY

RhineStoneTaco		2009-04-12 03:48:17 PM

I'm outraged and appalled.

Back to the industrial-farming for me! Clearly it is the best way.
From now on I am not going to eat any organic or green or free-range products! It's all just one big scam. They just want your money to feed to their trees. I bet they like animals more than people. Just like PeTA! Why do they hate capitalisWHARRBLGRBL.

MorseCodeNowInHiDef		2009-04-12 03:48:19 PM

Maybe we can get past the bullshiat that is this stupid ass "100% Certified organic"fark organicfark green
... and fark you, hippie!

H_is_for_Heretic		2009-04-12 03:48:27 PM

spamdog: Free range is not necessarily natural. And neither is its taste. In fact, free range is like piggy day care, a thoughtfully arranged system designed to meet the needs of consumers who despise industrial agriculture and adore the idea of wildness.

Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

I don't ever want to stop easting meat, and have slaughtered my own, but I don't like the idea of creating life to do nothing but suffer before it serves us. Slowly getting back to natural meat would be healthier, although it would taste different and most people couldn't afford to have meat at every meal. (which is a very modern thing anyway)

/helps I abhor the taste and smell of pork

lohphat		2009-04-12 03:49:05 PM

There's shiat in the veggies and spices too; it's not just about meat.

There's actually a FDA limit for the amount of rodent droppings allowed in pepper due to the nature of collecting peppercorns.

Also, spider and insect eggs in figs.

Nature is nature, but the brain-dead "organic movement" (heh heh I said "movement") is for young ignorant darwin-award nominees who suffer from inter-gnerational amnesia.

Before pasturization and processing, a lot of people got sick and died from eating tainted food.

Same for the anti-vaccination idiots. They weren't around during summer polio outbreaks which crippled thousands of kids. I'd be happy to let their crotch fruit get sick and cull the herd if it wasn't for the fact that they're endangering other kids around them.

The diluted science curricula in this country has spawned the development of weapons-grade stupid in the US.

satanicsantoku		2009-04-12 03:50:22 PM

oh good, i thought i'd wasted my opportunity to post this in another thread.
badgerblogger.com

/the straws, you grasp at them

Xlr8urfark		2009-04-12 04:03:42 PM

I can has poop-free cheezburger?
images.icanhascheezburger.com

DrForrester		2009-04-12 04:07:31 PM

I'm making pork sausage links this afternoon, so I'm getting a kick...

Hey, subby, next time let us know that pretty much the entire article is already included in the headline so we don't have to go hunting for it like a damn Easer egg.

DrForrester		2009-04-12 04:08:13 PM

Or, Easter egg.

RY28		2009-04-12 04:14:13 PM

The best part of pork is the part that they use to make ice cream .

irishdncr83		2009-04-12 04:15:08 PM

...Did anyone else turn up a link about the Pope and condoms? >.>

jaderaven		2009-04-12 04:16:17 PM

Pope condoms...

Chucklz		2009-04-12 04:22:20 PM

Hrist		2009-04-12 04:23:31 PM

Salmonella is very common in pigs. It rarely causes actual disease, but is present in pretty much all pig excretions. This isn't newsworthy or surprising at all.

Salmonella is one of those reasons your parents told you to wash your hands before you eat. Because its farking EVERYWHERE outdoors.

And honestly? Its not even a 100% chance you'll come down with symptoms if you ingest it. I can't remember the estimated percentage, but its somewhere below 50%.

FrankTheYank		2009-04-12 04:36:03 PM

Okay, off-topic, did anyone follow the link in the top post and find out that the head of the WHO HIV/AIDS office is Dr. Kevin De Cock? This is the same organization that used to be run by a Dr. Mahalingam, which if I remember my Kama Sutra right, means Dr. Great Phallus. Is that an international aid organization or a fraternity?

pisceandreamer		2009-04-12 04:49:17 PM

When I can, I buy free range pork from a local farmer. Haven't gotten sick yet, because I know how to cook.

What I get always tastes great, it's competitively priced, and I'm happy to support a small farm when I can.

I don't hate America or large industrial farms - I'm pretty sure my buying a rasher of bacon from the local guy isn't going to put the big guys out of business.

grimnir		2009-04-12 04:49:53 PM

lohphat: Nature is nature, but the brain-dead "organic movement" (heh heh I said "movement") is for young ignorant darwin-award nominees who suffer from inter-gnerational amnesia.

Before pasturization and processing, a lot of people got sick and died from eating tainted food.

What are you talking about? "Organic" doesn't mean not pasteurized or not processed.

fusillade762		2009-04-12 04:50:48 PM

jaderaven: Pope condoms...

Don't eat them. They have salmonella.

SwiftFox		2009-04-12 05:08:30 PM

Even if the texture conferred on pork by this choice does lead to improved tenderloin, the enhanced taste must be weighed against the increased health risks.

Interesting. Yet he seems to have no trouble with the massive feeding of antibiotics to pigs so that they can grow better in extremely crowded conditions, or the commonly rampant disease spread under those conditions that makes it a near requirement.

Methinks he complaineth too much.

theodicey		2009-04-12 05:14:13 PM

Just read the comments on the Pope condoms article, it's a hotbed of idiocy.

It's terribly sad that the quality of discourse on one of the largest conservative blogs, run by a coterie of important law professors, and one of the top 50 most cited blogs on the internet, is below the level of Fark.

And why is the link a broken link to a link to an opinion piece?

Higher quality links, please.

biglot		2009-04-12 06:15:24 PM

One way or another, we' doomed.

Gyrfalcon		2009-04-12 06:41:37 PM

Or you could, you know, wash your hands and cooking utensils, cook your meat thoroughly, wash your produce, and not buy questionable ground meat products.

But why be reasonable?

cuzsis		2009-04-12 07:01:58 PM

So pigs roam around fields rooting through things (like peanuts and pistachios) and they have salmonella? Didn't the peanuts have it already anyway?

/which came first, the pig salmonella?
//or the peanut salmonella?

tripperday		2009-04-12 07:03:05 PM

UnspokenVoice: The organic market is part of the green industry which, honestly, is about making green dollars and not one bit about doing anything to improve anything. It never has been about that, and never will. People are eating this stuff because it's the hip thing to do. I am, again, amused.

Just like there's good and bad plumbers, there's organic farmers/ranchers that just slap the label on the package and there's the reputable organic farmers/ranchers that produce better tasting and more wholesome food. (I doubt it's much better for the environment, though.)

Wolfmanjames		2009-04-12 07:12:11 PM

Wants a word, friendo
/Hotlinked.

Thisbymaster		2009-04-12 10:37:29 PM

Organic and free range stuff has always been worse for you and harder on the animals, why do you think we moved away from them? It wasn't just greed doing it.

Grass Hopper		2009-04-13 09:20:49 AM

lohphat: There's shiat in the veggies and spices too; it's not just about meat.

There's actually a FDA limit for the amount of rodent droppings allowed in pepper due to the nature of collecting peppercorns.

Also, spider and insect eggs in figs.

Nature is nature, but the brain-dead "organic movement" (heh heh I said "movement") is for young ignorant darwin-award nominees who suffer from inter-gnerational amnesia.

Before pasturization and processing, a lot of people got sick and died from eating tainted food.

Same for the anti-vaccination idiots. They weren't around during summer polio outbreaks which crippled thousands of kids. I'd be happy to let their crotch fruit get sick and cull the herd if it wasn't for the fact that they're endangering other kids around them.

The diluted science curricula in this country has spawned the development of weapons-grade stupid in the US.

Before pasteurization, etc., people Cooked their food.

And I've often wondered about your other argument - leaving aside the difference in need for a polio vaccine and a vaccine for (last year's) flu, if the vaccine is so good, how could other kids represent a danger to yours? If yours are vaccinated, aren't they safe now?

emnar		2009-04-13 12:13:38 PM

The Grinch: I'm glad we needed a frontpage link to some batshiat idiot's conspiracy blog (and really, is there any other kind?) to tell us that.

Actually the primary owner of the blog is a law professor at UCLA, and the name "Volokh Conspiracy" is a nerdy joke. There are actually about six regular posters of all spectrums (though leaning libertarian). But nice snap judgement.

/not subby
//just hates idiots

whammer		2009-04-13 11:16:58 PM

"It's not only pistachios and 50-pound tubs of peanut paste that have been infected with salmonella but also 500-pound pigs allowed to root and to roam pastures happily before butting heads with a bolt gun"

Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

lohphat		2009-04-14 08:26:57 PM

Grass Hopper: And I've often wondered about your other argument - leaving aside the difference in need for a polio vaccine and a vaccine for (last year's) flu, if the vaccine is so good, how could other kids represent a danger to yours? If yours are vaccinated, aren't they safe now?

Google "herd immunity" and get back to me.

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