Through transposition errors.

In a row?

cue the idiots who just biatch about spelling mistakes like their lives are collapsing in real time because of it

FTA: Shadowy ninja agreement allegedly for industrial use only

Wiats for industrial ninja pics.

Whatsa ACTA you? HEY! Gotta no respect?

necropoultryac: FTA: Shadowy ninja agreement allegedly for industrial use only

Wiats Waits for industrial ninja pics.

FTFM

I'm expecting the same fervor of argument in this thread as you'd see in any religion or abortion threads. And... let's see... about... 300 posts? by quittin' time.

"Called the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), the putative deal has been kept under wraps, but as part of US President Barack Obama's commitment to transparency in government, details of the negotiations have been published. "

Transparent my ass. Those "summaries" didn't say anything other than "we want to stop piracy."

For fark's sake, searching laptops and mp3 players at borders?

Do these farking morons even understand the concept of "internet piracy"? Because apparently there are 36 other countries who think the internets are a series of tubes, and that we can stop and search the trucks at customs.

That article contradicted itself at least twice.

It said that ACTA is only worried about large scale cross-border moving of physical items (cd's, not an mp3 file) at the bottom. At the top, it said countries are trying to get ISPs on board with a model like the French have.

I wasn't aware that ISPs ran border security in any case. That would probably make AT&T the biggest arms smuggler on the planet.

So by all this flurry over "piracy" (by which they actually just mean 'copying'), I find that I shall not reveal my most incredible invention, the Lossless Matter Duplicator, because it can make exact copies of things without destroying the original, therefore making me a pirate for using it. Sorry about that.

SurahAhriman: For fark's sake, searching laptops and mp3 players at borders?

Do these farking morons even understand the concept of "internet piracy"? Because apparently there are 36 other countries who think the internets are a series of tubes, and that we can stop and search the trucks at customs.

That's kind of asinine, but I'm not sure it's much different from their usual approach. A significant amount of people making these laws/judgments seem to be only passingly familiar with what this "internet" is

The Carnivore program
Stanley Jobson approves

Thrity seven?

Double fail

zz9: And how they are going to search everyone for Micro SD cards is something I'd like to know.


I'm not sure *I* want to know. We'll all find out soon enough, anyway.

Oh, good. Here comes another "war" they can't win, but they get to punish a lot of people in the process.

YAY GOVERNMENT!!!!

You know, it's funny. I've finally broken my WoW habit. So I picked up LotR online. The disks have, printed in big, bold letters, "DO NOT MAKE ILLEGAL COPIES OF THIS DISK."

Then you start going through the manual and such, and there's a card with a 10day guest pass on it. It says "Loan your copies to a friend and give them the code."

I understand the difference between making copies and loaning disks, but you're not paying for the disks, you're paying for the serial number. You could make a thousand copies of the disks and give them away and it wouldn't hurt Turbine in the least. In fact, it would probably help them. Less cost for them to distribute the game.

With music, if the album/movie is good, I'd much rather get the physical CD/dvd than just download it. Basically you can fix the piracy problem by following this one basic step (popularized by NoFX):

Gonna fight against the mass appeal
We're gonna kill the 7 record deal
Make records that have more than one good song

I can hear it now, and it sounds like a lawsuit too:

"Excuse me ma'am I need to do a cavity search on you for any micro sd cards, and other private items that contain information you have."

gensolo: "Excuse me ma'am I need to do a cavity search on you for any micro sd cards, and other private items that contain information you have."

Or they'll have you take all magnetic data storage items off your person and make you walk through a de-magnitizer. Problem solved.

FTFA: Just last week the French Assembly passed a law that forces ISPs to disconnect those suspected of illegally sharing copyright infringing material on the third warning for up to a year. (emphasis mine)

This is pretty ugly. Let me ask, is it the record companies that have to suspect you? 'Cuz we all know they've got a great track record of taking down the right people...

The genie's out of the bottle, guys. You can't get it back in without oppressing your populace to the point that they'll realize what you're doing and why you're doing it. The current voting generation has ALWAYS had the Internet. You can't just wipe that freedom of information from the minds of men.

TSA: Do you have any mp3s on your person?

Sarcastic Passenger: Yeah, in my ass.

TSA confers with supervisor

TSA: Spread 'em.

Drakkenmaw: The genie's out of the bottle, guys. You can't get it back in without oppressing your populace to the point that they'll realize what you're doing and why you're doing it.

What are you talking about? Back in the day opium, cocaine, marijuana and even heroin were available legally. Now they're illegal and totally unavailable to the public.

Drakkenmaw: without oppressing your populace

Hasn't stopped them before.

Ugh all futile, the more they squirm the bigger the darknet will become. I wish they would just give up already, internet and copying is here to stay, get over it.

benlonghair: Drakkenmaw: The genie's out of the bottle, guys. You can't get it back in without oppressing your populace to the point that they'll realize what you're doing and why you're doing it.

What are you talking about? Back in the day opium, cocaine, marijuana and even heroin were available legally. Now they're illegal and totally unavailable to the public.

Hey I live in The Netherlands, and eh I would like a word with you..over a joint while I snort some cocaine.

CheeseEatingBulldog: benlonghair: Drakkenmaw: The genie's out of the bottle, guys. You can't get it back in without oppressing your populace to the point that they'll realize what you're doing and why you're doing it.

What are you talking about? Back in the day opium, cocaine, marijuana and even heroin were available legally. Now they're illegal and totally unavailable to the public.

Hey I live in The Netherlands, and eh I would like a word with you..over a joint while I snort some cocaine.

Wait, coke is ok in the Netherlands? And here I thought they weren't very business friendly.

Waitaminnit....ninja piracy?!?!? Isn't that a little oxymoronic???

elchupacabra: In a row?

i lol-ed!

benlonghair: gensolo: "Excuse me ma'am I need to do a cavity search on you for any micro sd cards, and other private items that contain information you have."

Or they'll have you take all magnetic data storage items off your person and make you walk through a de-magnitizer. Problem solved.
won't work on a dvd or any optical media. how much does a bluray hold?

Pelted with rocks and garbage: Oh, good. Here comes another "war" they can't win, but they get to punish a lot of people in the process.

YAY GOVERNMENT!!!!

This.

What gets me is that the government isn't going after spammers, malware, or credit card/identity theft.

Seems that the only people worth caring about have lots of money to donate.

If the idea of banning guns gets people mad, then this should work them into a rabid lather.
I may not have anything smart to say, but dammit it's my RIGHT to say it. I guess if we cannot ban free speech, then we can just DRM it out of existence. We are now guilty until proven innocent.

SurahAhriman: CheeseEatingBulldog: benlonghair: Drakkenmaw: The genie's out of the bottle, guys. You can't get it back in without oppressing your populace to the point that they'll realize what you're doing and why you're doing it.

What are you talking about? Back in the day opium, cocaine, marijuana and even heroin were available legally. Now they're illegal and totally unavailable to the public.

Hey I live in The Netherlands, and eh I would like a word with you..over a joint while I snort some cocaine.

Wait, coke is ok in the Netherlands? And here I thought they weren't very business friendly.

Not ok perse with coke, although it is as widely availeble as XTC, GHB, Mushrooms and Weed.

People who have a limited understanding of the internet should not be allowed to create laws governing the internet.

This, the cybersecurity act and pretty much everything the RIAA has done is turning into the new war on drugs. Totally futile and an utter waste of money.

SurahAhriman: CheeseEatingBulldog: benlonghair: Drakkenmaw: The genie's out of the bottle, guys. You can't get it back in without oppressing your populace to the point that they'll realize what you're doing and why you're doing it.

What are you talking about? Back in the day opium, cocaine, marijuana and even heroin were available legally. Now they're illegal and totally unavailable to the public.

Hey I live in The Netherlands, and eh I would like a word with you..over a joint while I snort some cocaine.

Wait, coke is ok in the Netherlands? And here I thought they weren't very business friendly.

I was once held at knife point in Amsterdam by a guy who was trying to sell me coke. It was about 5 in the morning. He must have been out of his mind becuase the knife was tiny and he could barely speak. Talk about a "I'm going to slowly walk away" moment.

30 countries? Pfffft! it only took one country, the US, to figure out Super Delux.

Bohemian: People who have a limited understanding of the internet should not be allowed to create laws governing the internet.

You can't use that line of reasoning. If we used the reasoning that "people with a limited understanding of Y should not be allowed to create laws governing Y", we wouldn't be able to create any new laws at all. you'd have to stick with the ones that already exist. It would be minarchy!

Technically, Cocaine is a Schedule II drug in the U.S., which means that it has a medical use. So there are people who buy, posess and administer cocaine legally in the U.S..

MorseCodeNowInHiDef: Technically, Cocaine is a Schedule II drug in the U.S., which means that it has a medical use. So there are people who buy, posess and administer cocaine legally in the U.S..

Bit like bacon.

labman: MicroSD cards aren't a magnetic medium.

Really? What are they? You learn something every day, I guess.

yogsothoth: won't work on a dvd or any optical media. how much does a bluray hold?

DVD/Bluray are harder to stash secretly. Not impossible, but harder.

CheeseEatingBulldog: Hey I live in The Netherlands, and eh I would like a word with you..over a joint while I snort some cocaine.

I'll... uh... just go buy a ticket and be there in about 10 hours, can you wait that long?

Information needs to be free - there is no such thing as a little oppression or slightly free.

Freedom is binary in this respect.

You can't stop the signal!

In the land of 1's & 0's. It should be free.

This is what i think!fark A
C0101010 1

Ok for my last comment, i have to say, "what the Fark"! My binary code got filterd! LOL

benlonghair: labman: MicroSD cards aren't a magnetic medium.

Really? What are they? You learn something every day, I guess.

yogsothoth: won't work on a dvd or any optical media. how much does a bluray hold?

DVD/Bluray are harder to stash secretly. Not impossible, but harder.

CheeseEatingBulldog: Hey I live in The Netherlands, and eh I would like a word with you..over a joint while I snort some cocaine.

I'll... uh... just go buy a ticket and be there in about 10 hours, can you wait that long?

Depends if you expect there anything to be left when you get here.

CheeseEatingBulldog: Depends if you expect there anything to be left when you get here.

Um... do i just have to rely on your stash? Cause we could always just go to another cafe.

Isn't it too late?

But those AOL CDs did make good coasters.

This is the dumb. Aside from the apparent contradictions in the article, why not just go after those that break the law? Copyright laws already exist, so making copies of material and selling them without permission from the copyright owner is illegal. Prosecute that. Making copies and distributing them for no cost may or may not be legal (I'm not the expert here, but I believe it depends on scale).

As for the French model, that's a clear violation of due process, no? It's one thing for a company to do so as a matter of policy, it's another for it to be law - at least here in the States.