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(Boston Globe)   Man who was afraid that Obama would take his guns makes a rational case for less gun control. Just kidding, he shot and killed three cops   (boston.com) divider line 673
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2009-04-04 06:04:55 PM
Lives with his mother: Check
Kicked out of military: Check
Afraid Obama will take his guns: Check

Anyone wanna bet he's got Hannity/O'Reilly/Coulter books in his room?
 
2009-04-04 06:12:16 PM
"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

/I would have loved to have been there when this ass-clown threw a tray at a Drill Instructor during Boot Camp. I hope they beat the shiat out of him.
 
2009-04-04 06:14:40 PM
Sgt Otter: I would have loved to have been there when this ass-clown threw a tray at a Drill Instructor during Boot Camp.

How is that something that gets you kicked out? I would think they would like that sort of naked aggression. I mean, I can see them making the guy run for a while, but kicking him out?
 
2009-04-04 06:14:49 PM
what_now: Anyone wanna bet he's got Hannity/O'Reilly/Coulter books in his room?

damn, he needs to meet my roommate, match made in heaven...
 
2009-04-04 06:27:52 PM
what_now: Sgt Otter: I would have loved to have been there when this ass-clown threw a tray at a Drill Instructor during Boot Camp.

How is that something that gets you kicked out? I would think they would like that sort of naked aggression. I mean, I can see them making the guy run for a while, but kicking him out?


One of the guys in my old unit spent three years "on the trail" as an Army Drill Sergeant at Fort Knox, Kentucky, training new Cavalry Scouts.

Normally, something like this would just be a "smoke session," where you'd get taken out behind the Dining Facility and PTed until you puked. Front-Back-Gos* was his weapon of choice.

However, he said by the end of about week one or two, he can tell which guys are completely untrainable and worthless. Not the guys who just needed their edges ground down and learn discipline, the ones who are completely farking untrainable. Or mentally unstable, dangerous, criminal, mentally incompetent, etc.

They usually try to get them kicked out on a "Failure to Adapt" discharge, but if they're hurting for numbers and the end of the fiscal year is coming up, the officers might turn down the Drill Sgt's request and tell them to give the kid another chance.

So the Drill Sgt's bide their time and wait for him to screw up to the point it's considered criminal, then offer them the "discharge in lieu of court martial."

He's goaded a few douchebags into taking a swing at him, and then pops them for "Assaulting a Non-Commissioned Officer" which IIRC, the maximum penalty is 10 years confinement.

They're usually eager to take the "discharge in lieu of court martial" as opposed to ten years of getting cornholed in Fort Leavenworth.

*You yell "Front" the recruit has to do push-ups, "Back" he gets on his back and does flutter kicks. "Go" is run in place. I've seen it used where there's only a few seconds in between commands. The actual exercises aren't bad, it's the getting up and getting back down that sucks.
 
2009-04-04 06:32:13 PM
Sgt Otter: *You yell "Front" the recruit has to do push-ups, "Back" he gets on his back and does flutter kicks. "Go" is run in place. I've seen it used where there's only a few seconds in between commands. The actual exercises aren't bad, it's the getting up and getting back down that sucks.

My whole body hurts just thinking about that.

:(
 
2009-04-04 07:21:24 PM
Couldn't he have done something more sensible, like cling to his religion.
 
2009-04-04 07:22:02 PM
Woo! Gun control thread!
 
2009-04-04 07:22:37 PM
What a cowardly fark.
 
2009-04-04 07:23:04 PM
Guns are cool. they give me a large penis.
 
2009-04-04 07:23:19 PM
Paranoid delusions Obamabots will take my guns?

That's a shootin'.
 
2009-04-04 07:23:20 PM
Oh you wacky Yanks and your guns. Whatever next LOL?
 
2009-04-04 07:23:23 PM
Well, that's it. It's obvious that we need to make guns illegal.
 
2009-04-04 07:23:26 PM
Guns are bad, mkay
 
2009-04-04 07:23:47 PM
drhansenej: Gunys are cool. they give me a large penis.
 
2009-04-04 07:23:49 PM
if only those cops had concealed weapons permits
 
2009-04-04 07:24:43 PM
Well...

One marginally trained gunman caused an unfortunate and disproportionate amount of damage.

/saddened
 
2009-04-04 07:25:34 PM
Iron Chef Scottish: Oh you wacky Yanks and your guns. Whatever next LOL?


Just because you guys decided to give up your rights, doesn't mean that we should do the same.
 
2009-04-04 07:25:47 PM
I know! Let's make murder illegal... that should stop all of this foolishness. Right?
 
2009-04-04 07:25:54 PM
No Hero tag for the guy? Three less criminals on the streets is a good start.
 
2009-04-04 07:25:56 PM
As a Pittsburgher, I want to say that this wack-job wanted to be killed...and he was denied. He killed the first two officers at the front door with ONE bullet. He is a monster to take out cops like that. I hope he burns in hell.
Rip: Kelly, Scuillo, & Mayhle
 
2009-04-04 07:26:07 PM
A gunman wearing a bulletproof vest and "lying in wait" opened fire on officers responding to a domestic disturbance call Saturday, killing three of them and turning a quiet Pittsburgh street into a battlefield, police said.

Maybe we need to do a background check on anyone trying to buy a bulletproof vest. Same thing yesterday in NY.
 
2009-04-04 07:26:33 PM
This story seems like it was made just for the purpose of someone using the "You're doing it wrong" meme in the headline.
 
2009-04-04 07:27:00 PM
Sgt Otter: *You yell "Front" the recruit has to do push-ups, "Back" he gets on his back and does flutter kicks. "Go" is run in place. I've seen it used where there's only a few seconds in between commands. The actual exercises aren't bad, it's the getting up and getting back down that sucks.

Sounds like what I remember as "grass drills". Those exercises made me show my war face..lol. Busted my balls, that's for sure.

/Ft Lost-in-the-Woods
 
2009-04-04 07:27:15 PM
error4829: No Hero tag for the guy? Three less criminals on the streets is a good start.

That was weak. 0/10.
 
2009-04-04 07:27:35 PM
How about getting the real nutjobs treatment and leaving the rest of us gun owners alone? Crazy people with guns do a little harm. Sane people given a purpose can tear this country apart.
 
2009-04-04 07:27:36 PM
Well this kid obviously had some mental problems. The saddest part about the story is that the Pennsylvania taxpayers are going to have to pay for his recovery, trial, and prison term when the cops could have just given him a headshot and been done with it.

That does not change the fact that Obama has promised a new "assault weapon" ban, and that this incident will probably be used by the gun control croud as an example of why those guns should be banned.
 
2009-04-04 07:28:16 PM
The word for today is "counterproductive". Can you say "counterproductive", boys and girls?
 
2009-04-04 07:28:29 PM
Seacop: error4829: No Hero tag for the guy? Three less criminals on the streets is a good start.

That was weak. 0/10.


I liked it. I give it a 3. Nice beat but I couldn't dance on their graves to it.

Was better than mine anyway.
 
2009-04-04 07:28:46 PM
Jeeze, what an asshole.

A side note though......I wish the media would get it's shiat together. Highly doubtful he had an Assault Rifle...as that is a select fire weapon that is insanely regulated.

He likely had one of the many types of semi-auto variants out there.
 
2009-04-04 07:28:48 PM
FTFA: Vire, 23, said Poplawski once had an Internet talk show but that it wasn't successful. He said Poplawski owned an AK-47 rifle and several powerful handguns, including a .357 Magnum.

Fark handle?
 
2009-04-04 07:29:03 PM
Seacop: error4829: No Hero tag for the guy? Three less criminals on the streets is a good start.

That was weak. 0/10.


Well it depends on if you think I was trolling or not.

/not
 
2009-04-04 07:29:26 PM
GaryPDX: Sounds like what I remember as "grass drills". Those exercises made me show my war face..lol. Busted my balls, that's for sure.

/Ft Lost-in-the-Woods


Well, that's one off the list.
 
2009-04-04 07:29:30 PM
The only shame here is that he killed others.

Suicide booths...a win for all.
 
2009-04-04 07:29:37 PM
This guy should get the death penalty. It might deter other conservatives from doing the same thing.
 
2009-04-04 07:29:45 PM
medius: Seacop: error4829: No Hero tag for the guy? Three less criminals on the streets is a good start.

That was weak. 0/10.

I liked it. I give it a 3. Nice beat but I couldn't dance on their graves to it.

Was better than mine anyway.


Yours had a nice turn around though. 4.
 
2009-04-04 07:29:54 PM
*crowd
 
2009-04-04 07:29:54 PM
well, let's just hope he gets a speedy trial.
 
2009-04-04 07:30:01 PM
Supposedly this guy had a webcast show or something a one point. Anyone find a link to this Glenn Beck wannabe's rants?
 
2009-04-04 07:30:18 PM
That is what happens when you have armed citizens and police. It is sad but all it means is the public is not defenseless.
 
2009-04-04 07:30:28 PM
www.windycitymike.com
 
2009-04-04 07:30:35 PM
The_Sponge
Absolutely. Democracy in action.
 
2009-04-04 07:30:37 PM
The_Sponge: Iron Chef Scottish: Oh you wacky Yanks and your guns. Whatever next LOL?


Just because you guys decided to give up your rights, doesn't mean that we should do the same.


There are no rights in Scotland. It's just endless miles of serfs toiling in the fields while ultra-liberal overseers on horseback keep the peace. Sometimes, if a Scot is very very good, he will receive an extra lump of potato in his gruel. But otherwise, it's all planting and harvesting turnips from sunrise the sunset.
 
2009-04-04 07:30:50 PM
I think the events of the last couple of weeks may add steam to those wanting to ban "assault weapons" or guns, but misuse by a few individuals does not justify no one else being able to defend themselves. It is obvious that the police cannot protect you, heck, they can't even protect themselves, what makes you think they will prevent you from getting murdered, regardless of the tool used to do it
 
2009-04-04 07:30:59 PM
This may be extreme, but they ought to bring his mother into the hospital room he is in, have him restrained, and slice her throat allowing her to bleed to death in front of him.
 
2009-04-04 07:31:27 PM
Wow, he was Polish. I'm surprised he didn't shoot himself.

Or did he?

/DNRTFA
 
2009-04-04 07:31:45 PM
Smeggy Smurf: Crazy people with guns do a little harm.

A little?
 
2009-04-04 07:32:00 PM
Proud2B_American: This may be extreme, but they ought to bring his mother into the hospital room he is in, have him restrained, and slice her throat allowing her to bleed to death in front of him.

No, that's not extreme. I hear that's the same punishment jaywalkers get in Tehran.
 
2009-04-04 07:32:28 PM
What was it the Attorney General said? Oh yeah..."Never let a crisis go unexploited."

Hide yer guns, bubba!

/not an NRA member...read that in American Rifleman while waiting at the Doc's office Friday
 
2009-04-04 07:32:49 PM
Too bad the mother or grandmother didn't have a gun hiding in the basement, they could've taken him out. Like any responsible citizen.
 
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