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(Daily Mail)   Woman thrown out of bar: "I know the management has the right to refuse service but [she was] using that right to impose her opinions about what pregnant women should and shouldn't be consuming"   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 147
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2009-03-31 05:48:09 PM
Was she worried about the effect on her unborn child from the sound of jackhammers?
 
2009-03-31 06:03:32 PM
pregnant chick thread?
 
2009-03-31 06:05:22 PM
So... they throw her out and she whines that they should have respected her right to drink.

But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

They made the right call.
 
2009-03-31 06:06:52 PM
'I never felt so singled out and humiliated in my life.

Well, give it a couple days for people on the street to start telling you what a stupid biatch you are to your face, and you'll feel that way again.
 
2009-03-31 06:08:38 PM
Well, I'm sure she would have carried her little flipper-baby full term and raised it all on her own with her own money...
 
2009-03-31 06:13:22 PM
I hate that they are apologizing for this.

"We're sorry that we exercised our right to ask someone to leave."
 
2009-03-31 06:20:37 PM
Chariset: So... they throw her out and she whines that they should have respected her right to drink.

But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

They made the right call.


Yup. The Western world is litigation happy. It's sad that common sense & personal responsibility have been kicked to the curve to appease bottom feeders & ambulance chasers.
 
2009-03-31 06:23:16 PM
Chariset: But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

The National Organisation of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome said the action by the pub staff was heavy-handed.

I don't think you get to play the "I'm protecting you from FAS" card when the National Organisation of FAS says you're going too far.
 
2009-03-31 07:05:02 PM
She wasn't drunk or apparently a regular customer. I doubt even a pint and a half on a weekly basis would cause an issue. Or a glass of wine. Downing shots of tequila is probably not a good idea though. Most things in moderation are not an issue.
 
2009-03-31 07:06:45 PM
At the restaurant I used to work at we were told during training that so long as the pregnant lady is over 21, you give her her beverage. Unless a customer is obviously drunk, it's just not a server's place to decide what's best for the customer.
 
2009-03-31 07:08:23 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
Would definately hit it.
 
2009-03-31 07:09:07 PM
Moderation, people.

A glass of wine or beer once in a while will not cause harm to your baby. Once in a while being the key.

My OB told me that.
 
2009-03-31 07:25:30 PM
namegoeshere: Moderation, people.

A glass of wine or beer once in a while will not cause harm to your baby. Once in a while being the key.

My OB told me that.



How many fingers does your kid have?

/just a follow-up
 
2009-03-31 07:42:08 PM
sentex: namegoeshere: Moderation, people.

A glass of wine or beer once in a while will not cause harm to your baby. Once in a while being the key.

My OB told me that.


How many fingers does your kid have?

/just a follow-up


Well, she's a fabulous swimmer, with the webbed feet and all :)
 
2009-03-31 08:12:55 PM
namegoeshere: Moderation, people.

A glass of wine or beer once in a while will not cause harm to your baby. Once in a while being the key.

My OB told me that.


I'm sure one or two is okay, think of all the people who drink as they usually do before they know they are pregnant. Still I have no problem with a bar refusing service. It shows a certain amount of social responsibility.
 
2009-03-31 08:13:21 PM
ne2d: Would definately hit it.

You're obviously late to that party.
 
2009-03-31 08:13:54 PM
I'd hit it like I've never hit it before.
 
2009-03-31 08:15:20 PM
What FAS supposedly looks like:

embryology.med.unsw.edu.au

WTF?
I wish I looked that healthy.
 
2009-03-31 08:15:35 PM
I found the woman's cat...

Her personality rubbed off onto the cat too much!

heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-03-31 08:16:52 PM
I hope somebody gets her a peekaru for her baby shower.
 
2009-03-31 08:17:00 PM
Woman sues bar for serving her alcohol while pregnant.
 
2009-03-31 08:17:33 PM
I'd hit that with a hanger.
 
2009-03-31 08:18:18 PM
Shoulda spiked her drink super special and euthanized the dumb biatch.
 
2009-03-31 08:18:44 PM
A little wine or beer probably won't have an effect, but there's no way to tell if someone has a low tolerance for alcohol or not. Where babies are concerned, it's better to err on the side of caution. People who drink while pregnant disgust me.
 
2009-03-31 08:18:52 PM
BobtheFascist: Chariset: So... they throw her out and she whines that they should have respected her right to drink.

But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

They made the right call.

Yup. The Western world is litigation happy. It's sad that common sense & personal responsibility have been kicked to the curve to appease bottom feeders & ambulance chasers.


If I owned the bar I would be thinking of how serving her reflected on my establishment. If you are serving a party of four with a pregnant woman, and that is making the other forty people at the bar uncomfortable, the four need to go.

It sounds like she was only going to have a pint and a half, which probably is not going to harm the baby, but I don't want to go up to the bar and see pregnant women drinking beer.
 
2009-03-31 08:20:06 PM
We need an 'England' tag. By Zeus they really are Florida with a better accent and more castles.
 
2009-03-31 08:20:53 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If I owned the bar I would be thinking of how serving her reflected on my establishment. If you are serving a party of four with a pregnant woman, and that is making the other forty people at the bar uncomfortable, the four need to go.

Oh, so now it's mob rule? That seems to be the going trend in the world today. The majority opinion overrules the minority opinion no matter what. If you're the party of 4 just trying to have a good time but that somehow makes the 40 feel uncomfortable, then you have to leave?

And am I the only one who sees the eerie similarity to Global Warming "consensus" in this argument?
 
2009-03-31 08:22:33 PM
Herb Utsmelz: What FAS supposedly looks like:



WTF? I wish I looked that healthy.


FAS is more like this:
www.faqs.org

plus you can get spina bifida, simian crease and mental retardation
 
2009-03-31 08:23:12 PM
While I wouldn't drink if I were pregnant(erring on side of caution, plus I hate alchohol), an occasional glass of alchoholic beverage probably will not harm a baby.

That said, some chubby chick is going to be humiliated sooner or later when someone refuses her a drink while pregnant and she's not pregnant.
 
2009-03-31 08:24:15 PM
Holy crap people are over-sensitive.

Yes, management has the right to refuse service. End of sentence. That's it. Unless they're breaking some civil right (like denying you service because of your race), they don't have to even state a reason. Maybe they were a bit too severe in their decision to remove her, but that's their prerogative. Hell, they could have just said "We kicked her out because we didn't like the way she was looking at the bartender".

If she doesn't like their opinions and/or feels that they're imposing those opinions on her, who's stopping her and her friends from taking their business elsewhere? Hove isn't exactly a one pub town.

And enough with the "I never felt so singled out and humiliated in my life" stuff.

"It was sooooo humiliating. I just had to call the newspaper and have them send a reporter and photographer right away!"

Yeah, you shy little flower, you.
 
2009-03-31 08:24:39 PM
ne2d: Would definately hit it.

I'd throw it down a flight of stairs.
That's right I said it.
 
2009-03-31 08:25:17 PM
as a child of a mom who smoked a half pack a day/drank on occasion, i'm getting a kick ...

/no, my Ph.D. is not fake, it's in biochemistry
 
2009-03-31 08:25:27 PM
bberg: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If I owned the bar I would be thinking of how serving her reflected on my establishment. If you are serving a party of four with a pregnant woman, and that is making the other forty people at the bar uncomfortable, the four need to go.

Oh, so now it's mob rule? That seems to be the going trend in the world today. The majority opinion overrules the minority opinion no matter what. If you're the party of 4 just trying to have a good time but that somehow makes the 40 feel uncomfortable, then you have to leave?

And am I the only one who sees the eerie similarity to Global Warming "consensus" in this argument?


40 people are more important than the 4 at the end of the day.
But really the bar is a dictatorship, the dictator just happens to be listening to the masses.
The owner is free to not serve you (or any of those other 40 people), you are free to take your business elsewhere.
 
2009-03-31 08:25:29 PM
Surely the coont can be charged with more, no?
 
2009-03-31 08:26:04 PM
Wait. what..? Is there a trifecta in play? Let me in guys, I want to play, too!
 
2009-03-31 08:26:06 PM
Dammit, that was meant for the ambulance lady.
 
2009-03-31 08:27:03 PM
Starbucks barrista: Are you sure you should be drinking coffee while you're pregnant?

My very very pregnant sister-in-law: Oh....I'm not pregnant.

/how to make a clerk STFU in 4 words
/is "OBGYN" one of the courses Starbucks offers once you've mastered the art of the Triple Swirl Caramel Crunch Lattetm
 
2009-03-31 08:27:25 PM
Chariset: So... they throw her out and she whines that they should have respected her right to drink.

But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

They made the right call.


Came here to say this and leaving happy.
 
2009-03-31 08:27:47 PM
Theaetetus: Chariset: But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

The National Organisation of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome said the action by the pub staff was heavy-handed.

I don't think you get to play the "I'm protecting you from FAS" card when the National Organisation of FAS says you're going too far.


And they'll pay the damages if the bar gets sued, too!
 
2009-03-31 08:28:47 PM
bberg

Oh, so now it's mob rule? That seems to be the going trend in the world today. The majority opinion overrules the minority opinion no matter what. If you're the party of 4 just trying to have a good time but that somehow makes the 40 feel uncomfortable, then you have to leave?

And am I the only one who sees the eerie similarity to Global Warming "consensus" in this argument?


Jesus, can ya cut the whining? It's not majority opinion, it's the bartender's estimation thereof. If he thought it was okay to serve a pregnant woman alcohol, regardless of the opinion of the rest of his patrons, he would've done so. JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm was just pointing out that the bartender didn't want to seem like a certified ignoramus by serving her alcohol and BobtheFascist was just saying that the bartender didn't want to risk litigation and took what seemed the safest course of action.

And global warming?? Pathetic troll is pathetic!
 
2009-03-31 08:28:53 PM
bberg: Oh, so now it's mob rule? That seems to be the going trend in the world today. The majority opinion overrules the minority opinion no matter what. If you're the party of 4 just trying to have a good time but that somehow makes the 40 feel uncomfortable, then you have to leave?

And am I the only one who sees the eerie similarity to Global Warming "consensus" in this argument?


Obvious troll is obvious.
 
2009-03-31 08:29:40 PM
In New York City?
 
2009-03-31 08:29:47 PM
legrandbatard: FAS is more like this:

I just want to say, GIS-ing for "fetal alcohol syndrome" has some pretty farked up results. NSF after-dinner, that's for sure.
 
2009-03-31 08:30:27 PM
Inferious X
Obvious troll is obvious
Does that constitute a simulpost? Because this is what I meant.
Also preview is my friend. Snicker.
 
2009-03-31 08:31:45 PM
Theaetetus: Chariset: But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

The National Organisation of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome said the action by the pub staff was heavy-handed.

I don't think you get to play the "I'm protecting you from FAS" card when the National Organisation of FAS says you're going too far.


Sure you do. First of all, the pub did this BEFORE the NO of FAS came out with there statement. What, you think the pub called these people first to get an opinion? Second, wouldn't matter in a trial what the NO of FAS says because no one would know what the mother's actual consumption was. What if she was bar hopping? The pub manageress did the right thing; she protected her establishment from a potential lawsuit.
 
2009-03-31 08:32:09 PM
SonikTooth: as a child of a mom who smoked a half pack a day/drank on occasion, i'm getting a kick ...

/no, my Ph.D. is not fake, it's in biochemistry


Well garsh, free cigarettes and pabst for all upon conception!

I mean, if it didn't happen to you, then it can't happen at all I guess. After all, anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence.
 
2009-03-31 08:33:22 PM
I can't believe no one has pointed out how huge her boobs are.

//Would definitely hit it
//Then falcon punch it
 
2009-03-31 08:35:19 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: BobtheFascist: Chariset: So... they throw her out and she whines that they should have respected her right to drink.

But if she'd been allowed to stay and had produced a child with FAS, she might have sued, saying they shouldn't have served alcohol to a pregnant woman.

They made the right call.

Yup. The Western world is litigation happy. It's sad that common sense & personal responsibility have been kicked to the curve to appease bottom feeders & ambulance chasers.

If I owned the bar I would be thinking of how serving her reflected on my establishment. If you are serving a party of four with a pregnant woman, and that is making the other forty people at the bar uncomfortable, the four need to go.

It sounds like she was only going to have a pint and a half, which probably is not going to harm the baby, but I don't want to go up to the bar and see pregnant women drinking beer.


While what you say is technically correct, you're still a little off. What I get from it is that this place is a pub where food is also served. She and her friends were probably out for a bite to eat, a pint or so, and some chit-chat. There are BARS and then there are establishments that also serve food and welcome a wide range of ages.

We have 4 bars in our area and one pub. The four bars do nothing but serve alcohol, bar snacks, and have bands in on weekends. The pub? A great menu of dinners, fantastic drink selection, and many families even bring their kids in for dinner. So while I'm not thrilled with her decision, bear in mind that it was likely she was having a pint with her meal and a friend offered to get her another half pint as an 'after dinner' sip-at-it kind of thing.
 
2009-03-31 08:36:15 PM
bberg: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: If I owned the bar I would be thinking of how serving her reflected on my establishment. If you are serving a party of four with a pregnant woman, and that is making the other forty people at the bar uncomfortable, the four need to go.

Oh, so now it's mob rule? That seems to be the going trend in the world today. The majority opinion overrules the minority opinion no matter what. If you're the party of 4 just trying to have a good time but that somehow makes the 40 feel uncomfortable, then you have to leave?

And am I the only one who sees the eerie similarity to Global Warming "consensus" in this argument?


Welcome to reality, here is a helmet. Good luck.
 
2009-03-31 08:36:44 PM
namegoeshere: sentex: namegoeshere: Moderation, people.

A glass of wine or beer once in a while will not cause harm to your baby. Once in a while being the key.

My OB told me that.


How many fingers does your kid have?

/just a follow-up

Well, she's a fabulous swimmer, with the webbed feet and all :)



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