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(Variety)   Paramount hires J.J. Abrams and crew for "Star Trek II: Khan Boogaloo"   (variety.com) divider line 70
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2009-03-31 07:17:40 PM  
doomfistinc: Most of the die hard fans don't want what Abrams thinks Trek should be.

Die hard fans don't fill theaters after opening weekend.
 
2009-03-31 07:20:06 PM  
doomfistinc: As far as I remember, Kirk was allowed to be Kirk because he was out there exploring the unknown sectors of the galaxy.

True, but it doesn't change the fact that most of the time, he was breaking rules and being a "miscreant"... So, what we've seen of the movie Kirk so far hardly seems too out of character...

As for Spock, he fought with his human side constantly, but he never let it get the best of him, and certainly never allowed rage to flow through into the open.

Well, unless he happened to be in Pon Farr, of course... Or, under the influence of alien happy-spores and being called a half-breed by Kirk... ;-)

Look, I thought that bit from the trailer looked out of place and strange, too... But, I have no clue what the context is... Maybe he's high on more spores at the time, or something? Who the hell knows... Why not wait and see what actually happens in the movie itself, instead of just jumping to conclusions based on a trailer? *shrug*

Also, I never saw ANYTHING that said after he was "reborn" that all of his previous experiences and memories were erased.

Did you miss Star Trek IV? There were lots of references in that about how spotty his memory of his former life was... "You used to call me Jim, don't you remember?" "It would be improper to refer to you as Jim while you're in command." "I don't mean lie, but exaggerate! You used to do it... Can't you remember?" "The hell I can't." And, so on... Certainly not ALL his memories were erased, but it was certainly spotty...
 
2009-03-31 07:20:17 PM  
McBatt: doomfistinc: Most of the die hard fans don't want what Abrams thinks Trek should be.

Die hard fans don't fill theaters after opening weekend.


I can't speak for the rest of 'em, but I won't be seeing this garbage. Ever.
 
2009-03-31 07:35:19 PM  
RobSeace: doomfistinc: As far as I remember, Kirk was allowed to be Kirk because he was out there exploring the unknown sectors of the galaxy.

True, but it doesn't change the fact that most of the time, he was breaking rules and being a "miscreant"... So, what we've seen of the movie Kirk so far hardly seems too out of character...

As for Spock, he fought with his human side constantly, but he never let it get the best of him, and certainly never allowed rage to flow through into the open.

Well, unless he happened to be in Pon Farr, of course... Or, under the influence of alien happy-spores and being called a half-breed by Kirk... ;-)

Look, I thought that bit from the trailer looked out of place and strange, too... But, I have no clue what the context is... Maybe he's high on more spores at the time, or something? Who the hell knows... Why not wait and see what actually happens in the movie itself, instead of just jumping to conclusions based on a trailer? *shrug*

Also, I never saw ANYTHING that said after he was "reborn" that all of his previous experiences and memories were erased.

Did you miss Star Trek IV? There were lots of references in that about how spotty his memory of his former life was... "You used to call me Jim, don't you remember?" "It would be improper to refer to you as Jim while you're in command." "I don't mean lie, but exaggerate! You used to do it... Can't you remember?" "The hell I can't." And, so on... Certainly not ALL his memories were erased, but it was certainly spotty...


Honestly, dude. I gave up after they released one too many movies.
I know what I know from watching TOS, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise. I liked Enterprise for the sole reason that they had to think their way out of things. They couldn't just re polarize the shielding and shunt power from the warp core into the phasers to blow up an entire ship in one shot. It was just kinda nifty seeing a show set essentially in a submarine in space.
 
2009-03-31 08:51:19 PM  
So when do we get to see Star Trek: Uhura Gang Bang?
 
2009-03-31 09:09:18 PM  
Your_Huckleberry: But Insurrection was better than people admit and there was good episodes of Enterprise.

Frankly, IMHO the entire third and fourth seasons of Enterprise were quality Trek. They killed the show just as it was getting good.

And I agree with you about Insurrection -- I think its main problem is that it's not "big" enough for the movie screen -- but on DVD it's delightful. Lots of real nice character moments, for all the cast.
 
2009-03-31 09:37:28 PM  
doomfistinc: Honestly, dude. I gave up after they released one too many movies.

You mean after all your epic posts about how you're a Trek purist, this movie spits on everything that comes before, yadda yadda yadda, you're now saying you never even made it to the FOURTH DAMN MOVIE?

Wow, you're truly the go-to guy for Trek wisdom.
 
2009-03-31 09:38:04 PM  
I agree, forget this reboot stuff and do the porn alternatives. The voice of the computer could be SOOOO much fun to write narrative for (and then have her break into cheesy porn music).
 
2009-03-31 09:39:15 PM  
As much as I've grown to love Kirk and Spock, Data and Picard, and the Star Trek Universe as a whole, the thing that made me fall in love with Trek as a kid was the U.S.S. Enterprise. She's the most gorgeous space ship ever created. Watching her battle the Reliant in the Mutara Nebula is my favorite scene in my favorite movie of all time. I've built the models, bought the toys, drawn her on every page of every notebook in high school and college. Played every video game where I got to fly her. I love that ship.

And now they are bringing her back to the big screen with 2009 state of the art effects and an old school retro-classic styling. In high definition. On the IMAX screen. Kicking Romulan ASS!!

They got my 10 bucks right there. Everything else is just a bonus.

It was goofy 2-dimensional characters like Quark, and Tuvok, and Jonathan "Water Polo" Archer, and Neelix (Star Trek's Jar Jar) that killed Star Trek the second time. That and the general lack of the USS Enterprise on those shows made them unwatchable.
 
2009-03-31 09:47:29 PM  
cxjohn: I agree, forget this reboot stuff and do the porn alternatives. The voice of the computer could be SOOOO much fun to write narrative for (and then have her break into cheesy porn music).

The voice of the computer in the new movie is Majel Roddenberry, who DIED shortly after production was complete.

/lulz
 
2009-03-31 10:08:24 PM  
doomfistinc: As for Spock, he fought with his human side constantly, but he never let it get the best of him, and certainly never allowed rage to flow through into the open.

Well if you knew your Star Trek lore like you claimed you did, you'd know that in the original pilot, when we see Spock serving under Captain Pike, he's a very different character--he laughs, smiles, pats people on the back, etc.

The original pilot is considered Star Trek canon.

Therefore we know Spock was much more "human" acting when he was younger. This movie features a young Spock, so therefore he should act the way the character has been written.

In other words, they'd be breaking canon if they showed Spock as another OTHER than emotional.
 
2009-03-31 10:20:06 PM  
Confabulat: doomfistinc: As for Spock, he fought with his human side constantly, but he never let it get the best of him, and certainly never allowed rage to flow through into the open.

Well if you knew your Star Trek lore like you claimed you did, you'd know that in the original pilot, when we see Spock serving under Captain Pike, he's a very different character--he laughs, smiles, pats people on the back, etc.

The original pilot is considered Star Trek canon.

Therefore we know Spock was much more "human" acting when he was younger. This movie features a young Spock, so therefore he should act the way the character has been written.

In other words, they'd be breaking canon if they showed Spock as another OTHER than emotional.


That's a creative way to look at things.

However, seems to me that that canon is going to be moot the second the time travel starts in this new movie. Nero's line in the last trailor about Kirk being a great man in a "different life" more than hints that this is going to be compleatly new direction. Old Spock and Hulk Nero going back in time is going to be like Old Biff giving Young Biff the sports alamanac, forever changing the timelines as everyone knows them. Now, in this life, the Enterprise looks a little different, the bridge looks a little different, Kirk knows how to use a clutch, McCoy looks like a bigger badass than Kirk, Pike actually knows Kirk, dogs and cats sleeping together. It's a whole new world!

Not a bad plan, really. Abramns can never fully capture what the fans think Star Trek should look like, so he creates a way to show it his way.
 
2009-03-31 10:26:55 PM  
Premier is in Australia (Sydney) next week. Suffer in your jocks the rest of the world!! Opens early May I believe
 
2009-03-31 10:58:41 PM  
It's not Star Trek if it doesn't have Hwil Hweaton in it.
 
2009-03-31 11:00:38 PM  
smerfnablin: the only thing that concerns me is how many reboots/reloads they are doing

batman was incredible to do this to, star trek? i dont know

It sets a bad precedent...

What are they going to reboot next? Superman?


I assume you were being sarcastic.

If not, then...

xrayvision.today.com
 
2009-04-01 02:44:16 AM  
Confabulat: doomfistinc: Honestly, dude. I gave up after they released one too many movies.

You mean after all your epic posts about how you're a Trek purist, this movie spits on everything that comes before, yadda yadda yadda, you're now saying you never even made it to the FOURTH DAMN MOVIE?

Wow, you're truly the go-to guy for Trek wisdom.


I got my lulz out of that. Go ahead and pretend that knowing everything about star trek makes you better than some guy you will never meet. I simply enjoy the series. GDIAF
 
2009-04-01 02:46:10 AM  
doomfistinc: I got my lulz out of that. Go ahead and pretend that knowing everything about star trek makes you better than some guy you will never meet. I simply enjoy the series. GDIAF

"I won't apologize for being a purist. Trek was perfect"

Hehehe. You're too easy to make fun of.
 
2009-04-01 08:52:47 AM  
doomfistinc: Honestly, dude. I gave up after they released one too many movies.

You really didn't see ST4?! That's almost heresy! I'd rank it the best movie after ST2... Purely fluff and humor in comparison; it's not anything like ST2... But, it's damn enjoyable... It's the movie equivalent of "The Trouble With Tribbles" or "A Piece of the Action": a fun, silly, humor-filled classic... I highly recommend checking it out...

I liked Enterprise for the sole reason that they had to think their way out of things. They couldn't just re polarize the shielding and shunt power from the warp core into the phasers to blow up an entire ship in one shot. It was just kinda nifty seeing a show set essentially in a submarine in space.

I wanted to like Enterprise... I really, really did... It was such an excellent concept, and I had such high hopes... But, man, they just did everything they could to fark it up... The whole "temporal cold war" horseshiat was stupid and boring... They had few qualms about shiatting all over established canon for no good reason... And, don't even get me started on that horrid theme song!

But, then around season 4, it actually started to not suck... They started getting away from the stupid temporal cold war and Xindi bullshiat, and started producing some actual enjoyable and entertaining episodes that felt like classic Trek... And, then it was cancelled, just as it was finally starting to live up to my original expectations... ;-/
 
2009-04-02 01:25:08 AM  
I've got a bad feeling about this.
 
2009-04-03 12:16:38 AM  
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I've got a bad feeling about this.

/nerd rage

THAT'S STAR WARS!

/nerd rage

Seriously, I couldn't care.
 
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