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(Daily Star)   Nanny state bishops refuse to ring church bells in case it 'upsets people from other religions'   (dailystar.co.uk) divider line 67
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2009-03-30 03:42:41 PM
which religions? any religion in particular that may be, let's say, quick to take offense? maybe jainism? baha'i? scientology? mormonism? it's a mystery.
 
2009-03-30 04:10:20 PM
M: If only we had some kind of missile, we could take the steam out of those bells.
W: Well, you could always use the number 14-St. Joseph-the-somewhat-divine-on-the-hill ballistic missile. It's in the attic.
M: What ballistic missile would this be, then?

(Sound: Bells begin to get increasingly louder)

W: I made it for you, it's your birthday present!
M: Just what I wanted, 'ow nice of you to remember, my pet. 'ERE!
W: WHAT?
M: THOSE BELLS ARE GETTING LOUDER!
W: WHAT?
M: THOSE BELLS ARE GETTING LOUDER!!
W: THE BELLS ARE GETTING LOUDER! OOOH, LOOK!
M: WHAT?
W: THE CHURCH, IT.. ITS COMING CLOSER! ITS COMING DOWN THE 'ILL!
M: WHAT A LIBERTY!
W: ITS TURNING INTO OUR LANE! WELL, YOU BETTER GO PUT IT OUT OF ITS MISERY.
M: WHERE'S THIS MISSILE, THEN?
W: IT'S IN THE ATTIC. PRESS THE BUTTON MARKED CHURCH!
M: 'OW DO I AIM IT?
W: IT AUTOMATICALLY HOMES IN ON THE NEAREST PLACE OF WORSHIP!
M: BUT THAT'S ST. MARKS!
W: IT ISN'T NOW, LOOK!! OH, ITS OP'NING THE GATE.
M: WHAT? USE THE MEGAPHONE!
W: IT'S OP'NING THE GATE!! 'HURRY UP, ITS TRAMPLING OVER THE AZELIAS!
 
2009-03-30 04:14:20 PM
Oranges and lemons
Say the bells of St Clements
You owe me five farthings
Say the bells of St Martins
When will you pay me?
Say the bells of Old Bailey
When I grow rich
Say the bells of Shoreditch
When will that be?
Say the bells of Stepney
I'm sure I don't know
Says the great bell at Bow
 
2009-03-30 04:22:04 PM
"Ringin' the church bells."

Sure this isn't some kind of euphemism?
 
2009-03-30 04:57:41 PM
Nanny state bishops refuse to ring church bells in case it 'upsets people from other religions'

www.marxists.org

/ cannot hear you over the 5-times-a-day adhān
 
2009-03-30 06:36:15 PM
I would take the time to explain to the submitter how this particular "nanny state" headline is a particular brand of stupid, see as the state is in no way involved in this issue, and the private persons who have made the referenced decision have done so in an attempt to avoid causing harm - be it annoyance or inconvenience - to others, not just themselves, which betrays the entire premise behind the insanely idiotic "nanny state" label, BUT I fear that my commentary would interfere with his nose-picking, and so I will abstain.
 
2009-03-30 07:10:03 PM
kronicfeld: I would take the time to explain to the submitter how this particular "nanny state" headline is a particular brand of stupid, see as the state is in no way involved in this issue, and the private persons who have made the referenced decision have done so in an attempt to avoid causing harm - be it annoyance or inconvenience - to others, not just themselves, which betrays the entire premise behind the insanely idiotic "nanny state" label, BUT I fear that my commentary would interfere with his nose-picking, and so I will abstain.

This is no place for a well thought out and reasoned response.

LET THE NANNY-STATE AND RELIGION BASHING BEGIN!!!1111eleventy-one!!1
 
2009-03-30 07:22:55 PM
People have watches and calendars and internet today, no need to ring bells anymore.
 
2009-03-30 07:25:20 PM
+1 Lando Lincoln

I came here to do the same.

/You never know what an agnostic can't do when he doesn't really know if he believes in anything or not.
 
2009-03-30 07:27:15 PM
kronicfeld: this particular "nanny state" headline is a particular brand of stupid, see as the state is in no way involved in this issue, and the private persons who have made the referenced decision have done so in an attempt to avoid causing harm - be it annoyance or inconvenience - to others, not just themselves, which betrays the entire premise behind the insanely idiotic "nanny state"

And who makes up a state? That's right - private individuals. Many of whom are nannies. I've seen the television shows - the UK is made up of 50% families, and 50% nannies, with the remaining 20% being chimney sweeps, and the other 15% being beggar children with crutches.
 
2009-03-30 07:28:31 PM
When I'm worshiping St. Mattress of the Springs, those church bells do upset me. If I was making noise that loud, I'd be arrested of fined for violating a noise ordinance.
 
2009-03-30 07:29:29 PM
kronicfeld, about the Nanny State: it's a state of mind, you see. The Nanny State of Mind.
 
2009-03-30 07:29:38 PM
Don't muslim churches do that freaky chant like five times a day? That is alot more likely to cause problems than beautiful church music.
 
2009-03-30 07:30:16 PM
kronicfeld: see as the state is in no way involved in this issue

I thought they had an official state religion over on that side of the pond. Perhaps I missed something in the article?
 
2009-03-30 07:31:44 PM
cinegeek.com
What a nanny state may look like.

/hot, innit?
 
2009-03-30 07:32:23 PM
RE EatHam 2009-03-30 07:27:15 PM
"And who makes up a state? That's right - private individuals. Many of whom are nannies. I've seen the television shows - the UK is made up of 50% families, and 50% nannies, with the remaining 20% being chimney sweeps, and the other 15% being beggar children with crutches."

What about the royals? They've got to be at least 10%. And detectives, another 5% to 10%.
 
2009-03-30 07:32:40 PM
Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?
 
2009-03-30 07:33:31 PM
kidsizedcoffin: When I'm worshiping St. Mattress of the Springs....

Awesome.
 
2009-03-30 07:34:29 PM
Yeah, because blowing up subways in the name of your deity is in no way as offensive as bells.
 
2009-03-30 07:35:08 PM
ABOVE: Patriotic Star babe Annie


What a Pair of Church Bells Might Look Like
 
2009-03-30 07:36:18 PM
Millennium: Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?

It's more about the disproportionate and violent reaction of the minority that takes offense. No church official wants to be Theo Van Gogh'd or have his church get all explody by offending one of those non-Buddhists.
 
2009-03-30 07:36:24 PM
Screw not doing it for other religions... Don't do it because it's simply obnoxious. Jesus f'n Christ on a pogo stick, THEY'VE LOST THEIR PURPOSE.
 
2009-03-30 07:45:36 PM
Accolade: Screw not doing it for other religions... Don't do it because it's simply obnoxious. Jesus f'n Christ on a pogo stick, THEY'VE LOST THEIR PURPOSE.

This. Bells have been replaced by this cutting edge Swiss technology called a "watch".

Dude, it's awesome. Really dude, dude.
 
2009-03-30 07:45:52 PM
They had a controversy in New Orleans because the Greek Orthodox church in Lakeview rings its bells for 5 minutes for Easter.

Oh, the horror...listening to bells once a year. Sadly, that kind of mentality is commonplace in NOLA.
 
2009-03-30 07:46:53 PM
This deserves a hero tag.

I don't care what religion you are, bells that size are just plain obnoxious.
 
2009-03-30 07:47:45 PM
England, unlike the US, actually is a Christian country. If Muslims (there I said it, unlike some of the folks above) don't like Christian customs they can take their Koran and go home. The promulgators of those Christian customs should not worry about offending Muslims. Anything action short of converting to Islam offends them. Go about your business unafraid.
 
2009-03-30 07:52:34 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: Don't muslim churches do that freaky chant like five times a day? That is alot more likely to cause problems than beautiful church music.

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2009-03-30 07:56:13 PM
Can we please limit the use of the meme 'Nanny State' to instances where the government actually outlaws or bans a particular action? This is not a 'Nanny State' issue. No one is being coerced to do something against thier will via act of government.

You might think what they're doing is considerate and open-minded.

You might think what they're doing is a pussified surrender to political correctness.

Either way, it's not 'Nanny State'.
 
2009-03-30 07:58:51 PM
i258.photobucket.com
approves
 
2009-03-30 08:16:01 PM
Get over it.
 
2009-03-30 08:18:37 PM
From TFA:

images.dailystar-uk.co.uk
ABOVE: Patriotic Star babe Annie

/The local has some competition ...
 
2009-03-30 08:21:44 PM
i231.photobucket.com
The state I want my nanny in.
 
2009-03-30 08:45:26 PM
Millennium: Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?

Good god... this is the smartest thing I've read on the internet this year.

My heart is going to stop. The stupid, it may be clearing away. I can see beacons of hope again.

I am tired of everyone's flavor of offense. Whatever happened to the good days of "shut up, pussy" and having everyone laugh because they knew the person was in fact, a pussy.
 
2009-03-30 08:53:27 PM
jonr: People have watches and calendars and internet today, no need to ring bells or scream out prayer calls in unintelligible gibberish 5 times a day anymore.

FTFY (and everyone else too..)
 
2009-03-30 08:58:39 PM
I am not one to judge much and I don't think I am doing so here. Plus I would like to add I could be way off base in the first place so at least I am honest.

I have at least 2 friends from the UK, met them in 2001 and they are a classy pair of guys. We talk about our personal jackassery in our respective nations all the time. I will admit, America has serious Douchebag problems, some even epic. I could go on all day about it, but I still love the founding principles of our nation.

I can see where the term "Nanny State" could become irksome as hell to people from the UK especially when it doesn't have anything to do with the Government's actions. But if the Government itself is getting out of hand with the constant protection of its citizens to an asinine degree as well as the perpetual desire to never offend people, animals, trees, druids, etc... I think people begin following their leaders lead and repeating those actions.

Lord knows many folks did it under the Bush Administration so I am pretty well versed on people and government. But when the hell are people going to be able to come to an equilbrium on something and grow a pair? I swear I am missing the old days of punching a person to show them things went to far and maybe having them learn a lesson. Now someone can get all in your face and piss you off by being a complete and utter ass and you slug them, they sue, you lose everything you have, they get it and you're in prison.

Moral of the story, people are jackasses anymore and the sane ones hide. I don't get it to be honest.
 
2009-03-30 09:03:49 PM
Bells like that are beautiful. I'm sorry we have such a mobile rootless culture (here and in the UK, apparently) that we have no appreciation for nostalgia or tradition.
 
2009-03-30 09:08:12 PM
"Anyway, when I get my blazer badge and membership card back from the League of Agnostics, I shall urge the Executive to lodge a protest against that religious racket. Pass the butter knife!!"
 
2009-03-30 09:10:07 PM
Boris S. Wort: approves

Even SPG's all covered in snot.
 
2009-03-30 09:14:17 PM
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: Don't muslim churches do that freaky chant like five times a day? That is alot more likely to cause problems than beautiful church music.

www.smokersclub.com

The "In" crowd say it's cool to do this chanting thing...

/hot like a jihad
 
2009-03-30 09:20:24 PM
veedeevadeevoodeee

Won a long time ago.


Try saying, "Turn that shiat down" in downtown Anywhere, Middle East.
 
2009-03-30 09:25:32 PM
Millennium: Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?

i486.photobucket.com
And now try to follow me, because I'm gonna be moving in a kind of circular motion...
 
2009-03-30 09:29:24 PM
Britain, the once mighty Empire is reduced to farking ridiculous political correctness.
 
2009-03-30 09:33:25 PM
socoloco: Britain, the once mighty Empire is reduced to farking ridiculous political correctness.

Yes, private individuals being considerate to others is "political correctness." Jesus effing Christ.
 
2009-03-30 09:38:21 PM
kronicfeld: socoloco: Britain, the once mighty Empire is reduced to farking ridiculous political correctness.

Yes, private individuals being considerate to others is "political correctness." Jesus effing Christ.


Private individuals caving in and and canceling a traditional event so as not to "offend" is political correctness.
 
2009-03-30 09:43:29 PM
This just in:

In nominally Christian countries, it's a normal fact of life to hear church bells now and again. Now eat a bag of concrete and harden the fark up.

/athiest
 
2009-03-30 09:44:27 PM
Millennium: Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?

Well, Jesus H. Rodriguez, what the fark is wrong with that?

When I try to not be offensive, it's not because I'm literally afraid some flesh and blood person is going to TAKE actual offense. Most people are pretty forgiving about that sort of thing - sometimes because they're nice people and sometimes because they're just used to it. And the minority who DO actually take offense are small.

No, not wanting to e offensive is NOT about the other guy. It's about wanting to be a decent person. It's about treating others as you'd like to be treated yourself, whether other people care or not. Isn't it kind of meaningless otherwise?
 
2009-03-30 10:00:37 PM
ttintagel: Millennium: Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?

Well, Jesus H. Rodriguez, what the fark is wrong with that?

When I try to not be offensive, it's not because I'm literally afraid some flesh and blood person is going to TAKE actual offense. Most people are pretty forgiving about that sort of thing - sometimes because they're nice people and sometimes because they're just used to it. And the minority who DO actually take offense are small.

No, not wanting to e offensive is NOT about the other guy. It's about wanting to be a decent person. It's about treating others as you'd like to be treated yourself, whether other people care or not. Isn't it kind of meaningless otherwise?


Right. Now apply this to church bells and it becomes ridiculous.
 
2009-03-30 10:09:49 PM
I just got from Salt Lake City and stayed downtown. I don't know what church it was, but some pain in the azz house o'worship was bonging out frickin' xmas carols and church hymns every 15 minutes on church bells. It was intrusive and annoying. I applaud the bishops for realizing this damned noise is bothersome. If it was rap out of a car, they'd get a ticket, but these folks are banging it out all day long.

I AM offended that I have to listen to that crap, and if I have to, I should be able to blast out the "March of the Flying Spagetti Monster" every 23 minutes on a boat airhorn and see how they like it.

PS BAH!
PPS Whargl !!!!!
 
2009-03-30 10:18:30 PM
CaesarSneezy: ttintagel: Millennium: Is it just me, or are people afraid of causing offense far more numerous nowadays than people who actually take offense?

Well, Jesus H. Rodriguez, what the fark is wrong with that?

When I try to not be offensive, it's not because I'm literally afraid some flesh and blood person is going to TAKE actual offense. Most people are pretty forgiving about that sort of thing - sometimes because they're nice people and sometimes because they're just used to it. And the minority who DO actually take offense are small.

No, not wanting to e offensive is NOT about the other guy. It's about wanting to be a decent person. It's about treating others as you'd like to be treated yourself, whether other people care or not. Isn't it kind of meaningless otherwise?
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Right. Now apply this to church bells and it becomes ridiculous.

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Bishop (to self): Self, I've noticed that every year on St. George's Day we've been making a loud noise you can hear across town. Kind of dickish of us, isn't it?

Self: Kind of. Let's not do it this year.

Doesn't seem ridiculous to me.
 
2009-03-30 10:23:09 PM
Man: I wish those bloody bells would stop.

Wife: Oh, it's quite nice dear, it's Sunday, it's the church.

Man: What about us atheists? Why should we 'ave to listen to
that sectarian turmoil?

Wife: You're a lapsed atheist, dear.

Man: The principle's the same. Bleeding C-of-E. The Mohmedans
don't come 'round here wavin' bells at us! We don't get
Buddhists playing bagpipes in our bathroom! Or Hindus
harmonizing in the hall! The Shintuists don't come here
shattering sheet glass in the shiathouse, shouting
slogans...

Wife: All right, don't practice your alliteration on me.

Man: Anyway, when I get my membership card and blazer badge
back from the League of Agnostics, I shall urge the
executive to lodge a protest against that religious
racket!
 
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