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(ksrevenue.org)   Attention Kansas drug dealers: just because it's illegal doesn't relieve you of the duty to purchase tax stamps for your drugs.   (ksrevenue.org) divider line 118
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2003-02-05 11:23:19 AM  
"Therefore drug dealers are required by law to purchase drug tax stamps."

Yeah, like Canadian medicinal marijuana growers require permits.
 
2003-02-05 11:37:00 AM  
What a load of crap. The only purpose is to tack on even more criminal charges.
 
2003-02-05 11:53:31 AM  
"Gimme some o' dat good shiat, yo"
(hands baggie of crack over)
"Shee-it, man, this shiat's got expired tags"
 
2003-02-05 01:53:39 PM  
"Purchasing drug tax stamps does not make possession of drugs legal."

Just makes it more legal.
 
2003-02-05 05:48:55 PM  
Is there a murder tax yet? How about the terrorism tax? Or the rape tax?

I'm pretty sure the double jeopardy part of the constitution is supposed to protect us from having laws like this "stacked" against us, but then again we seemed to have turned that rag into 200 year old toilet paper.
 
2003-02-05 06:20:05 PM  
How about we just legalize pot and then sell it at your local Starbucks? The government saves tens of billions on the War on Drugs, and even makes some money on the side from the sales tax.
 
2003-02-05 06:20:43 PM  
But then, I guess that makes a little too much sense.
 
2003-02-05 06:32:39 PM  
please, there's lots of jobs riding on the war on drugs! there's the dea, and rehab clinics, and test labs, and the customs service, and the cops, and the border patrol, and other do-gooders.

and, yeah, it makes way too much sense.
 
2003-02-05 06:52:56 PM  
Kansas drug dealers? Pshaw.
 
2003-02-05 06:53:06 PM  
I thought these laws were ruled unconstitutional?
 
2003-02-05 06:55:23 PM  
Boy I'm glad I don't live in Kansas.

Heh heh...
 
2003-02-05 06:55:40 PM  
Stephenv:

As a Kansas resident, I've read up on this a good deal.

Your argument was one of the first brought forth. The decision handed down (not sure court level) was that the tax is a way to ensure the illegal profits derived are properly taxed, whereas the crime charged is for distribution.
 
2003-02-05 06:56:03 PM  
They were considered a violation of the 5th Amendment right against self incrimination, but since the Department of Revenue cannot share the information under the new versions, even under court order, with any other law enforcement agency, it is not considered a violation of the right against self-incrimination, and hence, passes constitutional muster.
 
2003-02-05 06:56:07 PM  
Oh no! Spidey sense tingling- another legalization flamewar is in the making.

Oh, and Guy Incognito- Me thinks those jobs will still exist if it were legal. There are plenty of other drugs to support those jobs.
 
2003-02-05 06:56:23 PM  
As a confirmed philatelist, I must consult my fellatio list.

Yep, this blows. farkin Sunflower State my ass ...
 
2003-02-05 06:56:24 PM  
"Drugs seized without stamps or having expired stamps may result in criminal or civil penalties which may include fines, seizure of property or liens against real estate."

Which, under the drug laws, would happen anyway.
 
2003-02-05 06:57:06 PM  
I live in Kansas, and I think that's a great law. It simply tacks more fines and jailtime on for the a$$hats that sell and use drugs. I'm all for it.

MrP
 
2003-02-05 06:57:23 PM  
"A dealer is not required to give his/her name or address when purchasing stamps and the Department is prohibited from sharing any information relating to the purchase of drug tax stamps with law enforcement or anyone else."

Only a "bureaucracy" could come up with something this half-...no, wait...whole-assed as this.
 
2003-02-05 06:57:44 PM  
Drug tax stamps? ..I must have been living in a cave.

Jeebus. How insane. Yet another reason to end this silly war on drugs.
 
2003-02-05 06:57:49 PM  
Thats how they got Al Capone (SP?) They said that even though he got his money through crime he still had to declare it for taxes............
 
2003-02-05 06:58:22 PM  
As Ace_Lightining is indeed a Kansas Drug dealer, he can confirm his patriotism by purchasing aforementioned tax stamps required for drug sales.
 
2003-02-05 06:59:01 PM  
but since the Department of Revenue cannot share the information under the new versions, even under court order, with any other law enforcement agency, it is not considered a violation of the right against self-incrimination, and hence, passes constitutional muster.


Yea, and if you believe that, I got a piece of Columbia to sell ya.
 
2003-02-05 06:59:08 PM  
ok this has to be a joke, who in there right mind would call up the government and incriminate themselves.

drugdealer: "yeah I just scored 2 lids of some primo and I want to get some stamps dude"

gove_dude: ok sir. you hear that knock on your door? cooperate with the nice men and everything will be ok.
 
2003-02-05 07:00:06 PM  
Well, Zeelod beat me to it, but that is how they got him...

 
2003-02-05 07:00:08 PM  
Bastards... they always catch you with tax evasion!
 
2003-02-05 07:00:30 PM  
And the School Resource Officer told us about it one time. You buy them at the post office, and they can't ask any information about you. They have to sell them to you, and cannot be called to testify against you, or be questioned by the police as to whether or not they sold them to you.

MrPilot
 
2003-02-05 07:00:52 PM  
Kansas - "When I finish counting the ways in which that is stupid, I'll start yelling at you."
 
2003-02-05 07:01:07 PM  
It is to tack on more charges, but it also pays out what the people of the state would usually in taxes to imprison these people when they are caught selling the illegal drugs. Taxed or not.
 
2003-02-05 07:01:28 PM  
They are just easing us into the new drug era where large corporations in conjunction with the CIA import drugs into this country.

Wait, nevermind, that was the 80s.
 
2003-02-05 07:03:16 PM  
Hey, everyone needed drugs in the 80s. After all, it was the farking 80s!
 
2003-02-05 07:03:37 PM  
Well, Zeelod beat me to it, but that is how they got him...

and her... (if you can that thing a "her)


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2003-02-05 07:04:21 PM  
"Trell
Kansas drug dealers? Pshaw."

actually a little further north, in the good town of sioux city, IA, we enjoy the title of METH capital of the world
 
2003-02-05 07:04:37 PM  
This doesn't affect me, so I don't care.
 
2003-02-05 07:04:48 PM  
I'm pretty sure the double jeopardy part of the constitution is supposed to protect us from having laws like this "stacked" against us, but then again we seemed to have turned that rag into 200 year old toilet paper


*sigh*
 
2003-02-05 07:05:05 PM  
In other words, if the state can't make the criminal charges stick in court, they can always get you on civil charges?
 
2003-02-05 07:07:19 PM  
Just remember: if you use drugs, you are helping the terrorists kill little Billy's family.
 
2003-02-05 07:08:24 PM  
Or you could make your parents the youngest grandparents in town. Boy would my face be red!
 
2003-02-05 07:08:27 PM  
If I could legally buy weed, I'd happily pay a fair tax on it. In the meantime, let's resist Taxation without Spliffication.
 
2003-02-05 07:09:31 PM  
This is beyond insane! The war on drugs must end. Think of the money they could be making if things like marijuana was legalized. Not that the government should be in the business of trying to make money, but none the less this article pretty much sums up what is wrong with the government.
 
2003-02-05 07:09:40 PM  
I think a lot of you are missing what may be the underlying point to this tax. If they can prove tax revenue from the drug trade, and prove that people buying and selling are in at least -some- instances interested in keeping things at least a -little- above board, they could more effectively work to legalize.
 
2003-02-05 07:10:34 PM  
This really hits the pockets of those law abiding drug dealers pretty hard. :( all two of them.

Anyone know if they actually bother with charges on small town dealers or users? Or is this mainly for the guy who brings in a trunk full of cocaine into the state? I bet there's all kinds of legal loopholes. Things they can bust you on or reasons to search you because of possible tax laws being broken. I can just see the court room now:

"I promise I'll go to rehab and get off the drugs"

"well that's real good of you. Now, about the tax evasion..."
 
2003-02-05 07:11:05 PM  
Telemakhos: It's the OJ mentality... it's ok to commit crimes and walk, but we're gonna take your money anyways.
 
2003-02-05 07:11:48 PM  
What kinda farked up stuff goes on at the ol' state house in Topeka, anyways?

And what the hell kind of asshat dreamed this up?
 
2003-02-05 07:11:57 PM  
FifthColumn
Just remember: if you use drugs, you are helping the terrorists kill little Billy's family.
 
2003-02-05 07:11:57 PM  
how do refunds work on these taxes?
 
2003-02-05 07:12:25 PM  
FifthColumn: don't forget...you might also get date raped, run over kids in fast food drive-thru lanes, or shoot your best friend in the face. *tsk tsk*. I also heard Marijuana causes forest fires and roadside litter. Give a hoot! Don't smoke pot!


/wishes the anti-pot people would stop stealing their anti-drug ads from OTHER PSA's
 
2003-02-05 07:12:52 PM  
When people think of the war on drugs they seem to think the only drug in existence is marijuana. And therein lies the problem.

So, when does crack get legalized if there is no more war on drugs? 'Cause I could sure go for some!
 
2003-02-05 07:12:55 PM  
we have that law here in connecticut. i could swear i heard something on the news a year or two ago, where some dumbass actually went and purchased some tax stamps for his drugs. i also believe he got busted for possesion not too long after.
 
2003-02-05 07:14:29 PM  
Gonna show you how I feel,
I'm gonna dump this tea.
And turn this harbor into
the biggest cup of tea in history!
 
2003-02-05 07:15:08 PM  
OK… I think this is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
 
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