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(retroCrush)   New Wonder Woman DVD set is allegedly true to the comic's roots, but since the review doesn't mention anything about Amazonian bondage I give it a resounding "meh*." (*"Meh" not safe for Internet usage in some states)   (retrocrush.buzznet.com) divider line 67
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2009-03-29 11:57:13 PM
img509.imageshack.us
 
2009-03-30 12:28:55 AM
www.comicbookqueers.com
 
2009-03-30 12:30:00 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-03-30 12:31:44 AM
And away we go:

images.allposters.com

a.abcnews.com

williamquinn.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-03-30 12:32:41 AM
katze-mit-wut.azundris.com

slog.thestranger.com
 
2009-03-30 12:33:09 AM
On the 2-disk set, there are some nice documentaries about the creation of Wonder Woman, her creator William Moulton Marston (he created thw lie detector) and WW's place in femenist history.

I admit I am disappointed that they left out the bondage aspect (tho there were subtle hints) and Marston's own "open" marriage (tho again, some subtle hints).

And the movie itself was surprisingly good. Yes, VERY faithful to the 1940's origin, while decidedly modern. VERY violent (at least two on-screen beheadings), and terrific voice acting.
 
2009-03-30 12:35:14 AM
Dumb-Ass-Monkey: On the 2-disk set, there are some nice documentaries about the creation of Wonder Woman, her creator William Moulton Marston (he created thw lie detector) and WW's place in femenist history.

I admit I am disappointed that they left out the bondage aspect (tho there were subtle hints) and Marston's own "open" marriage (tho again, some subtle hints).

And the movie itself was surprisingly good. Yes, VERY faithful to the 1940's origin, while decidedly modern. VERY violent (at least two on-screen beheadings), and terrific voice acting.


Oh, the new film was great. Good update that was true to the roots.

Marston was still a deve.
 
2009-03-30 12:35:28 AM
The only version of Wonder Woman I want to be preserved in a DVD set...

www.greathealthmag.com

Your a wonder, Wonder Woman!!!!!



Hot like ole' Linda's red boots!!!
 
2009-03-30 12:36:33 AM
Fano: Marston was still a deve.

Oh, no doubt. As far as they delved into his personal history on the docs, I was kinda surprised that they didn't mention the bondage themes, since they were so prevalent in the early years of WW.
 
2009-03-30 12:36:43 AM
www.castlekeys.com

What's the safe word?
 
2009-03-30 12:38:46 AM
Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Fano: Marston was still a deve.

Oh, no doubt. As far as they delved into his personal history on the docs, I was kinda surprised that they didn't mention the bondage themes, since they were so prevalent in the early years of WW.


As we are covering. The part that is amusing, this was a comic for kids in the so called straitlaced postwar years. We fap to Linda Hamilton, our sires watched WW tied up and spanked about every month.
 
2009-03-30 12:43:24 AM
www.quickstopentertainment.com


www.fatpigeons.com



wiw.org

www.quickstopentertainment.com
 
2009-03-30 01:00:11 AM
I would go with Wonder Woman, but I'd be thinking of Wilma.
 
2009-03-30 01:28:31 AM
I never like Wonder Woman or Superman until I read Superman: Red Son. It was awesome.
 
2009-03-30 01:29:22 AM
strawberryfieldsforever: And away we go:

I think it moved.
 
2009-03-30 01:38:13 AM
What I don't understand is why, based on the art in the article, they gave WW such a messed-up face. WTF?
 
2009-03-30 01:39:15 AM
Fano:
How long have you been waiting to use that image?
Versus using it as a screensaver or something...
 
2009-03-30 01:59:45 AM
Not to go all geek on you - oh, who am i kidding?

This DVD, the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited series, Batman, the Animated Adventures, the new The Batman series - all of these aimed in the general direction of kids and families (though, probably not exactly the new WW what with the ultraviolence and all) - they all get it RIGHT. They pay attention to their source material, and produce fine viewing. And yet, those who are they can't get a Wonder Woman live-action movie to get out of the planning stages. It drives me all batshiatty.

Robert1966, they were going for a Greek sort of aesthetic with her character design. I liked it - she had her own face.
 
2009-03-30 02:07:28 AM
I liked it - she had her own face.

It looks to me like she stole Carole Bouquet's. Not a bad choice.
 
2009-03-30 02:19:19 AM
"Meh" not safe for Internet usage in some states

Huh?
 
2009-03-30 02:28:28 AM
KoybayashiMaru: Not to go all geek on you - oh, who am i kidding?

This DVD, the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited series, Batman, the Animated Adventures, the new The Batman series - all of these aimed in the general direction of kids and families (though, probably not exactly the new WW what with the ultraviolence and all) - they all get it RIGHT. They pay attention to their source material, and produce fine viewing. And yet, those who are they can't get a Wonder Woman live-action movie to get out of the planning stages. It drives me all batshiatty.

Robert1966, they were going for a Greek sort of aesthetic with her character design. I liked it - she had her own face.


And for this reason they're total garbage. Justice League and Justice League: Unlimited are awful shows because they pander to the least critical of readers: comic book fans.

What better way to mangle a character or his universe than to haphazardly smear it together with every other damn superhero's? Because Batman's noirish crime busting scene really merges well with aliens and wizards and space stations. Because that's faithful to the character, to his emotional stakes, to any of those elements of writing.

The best Batman series was TAS, before the Superman TAS team plundered it to shiat with the Animated Adventures or whatever it was called. Why? Scope, characterization, atmosphere. It didn't pander to the mouth breathers who pay the few bucks every month to see how they're forty year running series is getting retconned or rebooted yet again.

(I have no problem with graphic novels though, just serialized comics.)
 
2009-03-30 02:36:35 AM
Linda Carter is stunning, as seen here (new window).

/you're welcome
 
2009-03-30 03:01:48 AM
Mother's Bloody Sperm: Because Batman's noirish crime busting scene really merges well with aliens and wizards and space stations. Because that's faithful to the character, to his emotional stakes, to any of those elements of writing.

The problem with Batman is that there are a good 7-8 legit incarnations of him. Dick Sprang's version of Batman was popularly seen as the "true" face of Batman, long before Bruce Timm, O'Neil and Adams, Frank Miller, Adam West, Tim Burton, or Christian Bale ever got their hands on him, and Dick Sprang's Batman is hardly noir. The character of Batman has become a modern myth, and like all myths, changes and evolves over time.

I agree that TAS is the best Batman series ever, and is the one I think of when I hear the word "Batman", but that doesn't mean someone who thinks of Adam West or Superfriends is wrong.
 
2009-03-30 03:03:10 AM
Mother's Bloody Sperm: Because Batman's noirish crime busting scene really merges well with aliens and wizards and space stations. Because that's faithful to the character, to his emotional stakes, to any of those elements of writing.

Well, you got that part right at least:

img5.imageshack.us

This is the interent. This is comics. This is Fark. We're all "mouth breathers" here.
 
2009-03-30 03:27:05 AM
Fano: ["On Paradise Island where we play many binding games..." image]

Came here for that pic.
Surprised by the many, many others.
Backing slowly out of thread while I still can.
 
2009-03-30 03:44:39 AM
aw, what the hell i putting this up.
sloblogs.thetribunenews.com
 
2009-03-30 04:11:27 AM
Denial_of_Death: Backing slowly out of thread while I still can.

isn't it hard to back out with your pants around your ankles? ;)
 
2009-03-30 04:16:37 AM
WhyteRaven74: Denial_of_Death: Backing slowly out of thread while I still can.

isn't it hard to back out with your pants around your ankles? ;)


Not unless you have experience.

/not like I do anything
//honest
///I don't really have anything else to say, I just like my slashies.
 
2009-03-30 06:28:18 AM
HappyLittleTree: Linda Carter is stunning, as seen here (new window).

/you're welcome


Here's a shot from 2007: if anything, she's even more stunning
when you factor in the extra 30+ years:

images.broadwayworld.com
 
2009-03-30 07:48:09 AM
I was at the NYC Comic Con premier screening for this. In the post-viewing Q&A with the creators, they asked if anyone wanted to see the first cut which got an R rating.

It was a resounding yes. And they recommended people write in to request that. Seems DC/Warner isn't ignoring how much cash R and UR anime takes in every year.
 
2009-03-30 08:34:16 AM
I was pleasantly entertained by the DVD. It was by far the best DC animated "movie".
 
2009-03-30 08:46:37 AM
I am a big WW fan and have all the post-Crisis WW comics. However, the WW movie was a resounding meh. I found it pretty silly when compared with JL: New Frontier.

Unfortunately the target audience was what, little kids? Everyone gets hit with a sword and barely anyone bleeds. Retarded. The only good line in the movie was when Hippolyta killed Persephone - Persephone spoke of how the Amazons were warriors but women too.
 
2009-03-30 08:58:35 AM
PsyLord: I was pleasantly entertained by the DVD. It was by far the best DC animated "movie".

Better than "Justice League: The New Frontier?"
 
2009-03-30 09:00:17 AM
I enjoyed the DVD and recommend it.
 
2009-03-30 09:29:41 AM
My friend brought that DVD over the other night, and we watched it with my 5 year old daughter. While I liked it a lot, it would have probably been smart for me NOT to let my little girl watch it. Though, I might add, she loved it. She cheered at both beheadings, and loved Wonder Woman kicking Ares ass all over DC.
 
2009-03-30 09:40:45 AM
amindtat: PsyLord: I was pleasantly entertained by the DVD. It was by far the best DC animated "movie".

Better than "Justice League: The New Frontier?"


Yes.
 
2009-03-30 09:53:56 AM
She certainly seems to spend a lot of time tied up.
 
2009-03-30 09:59:14 AM
DrakeLabatt: ...the WW movie was a resounding meh.

halfmoth.com
 
2009-03-30 10:08:05 AM
So how easy to kill a "God" in the DC universe? I mean Ares seems fairly vulnerable compared to other DC characters (Superman, Darkseid, etc).

/not a DC reader
 
2009-03-30 10:32:39 AM
Mother's Bloody Sperm: The best Batman series was TAS, before the Superman TAS team plundered it to shiat with the Animated Adventures or whatever it was called.

you know the same guys did both those series, right?
 
2009-03-30 10:38:15 AM
pd771: Mother's Bloody Sperm: The best Batman series was TAS, before the Superman TAS team plundered it to shiat with the Animated Adventures or whatever it was called.

you know the same guys did both those series, right?


In fact for the last season or so of Batman TAS they actually were a power hour, with a combined opening sequence.
 
2009-03-30 10:46:55 AM
Fano: In fact for the last season or so of Batman TAS they actually were a power hour, with a combined opening sequence.

My guess is that he disliked Bruce Timm's more angular artwork they used for the DCAU after Batman: The Animated series. While it wasn't quite as pretty, it made animation much easier, and had it's own 50-60's retro appeal.
 
2009-03-30 10:50:17 AM
pd771: Mother's Bloody Sperm: The best Batman series was TAS, before the Superman TAS team plundered it to shiat with the Animated Adventures or whatever it was called.

you know the same guys did both those series, right?


False:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103359/fullcredits#writers (new window)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118266/ (new window)

Same voice talent, some overlap in production staff, but the talent at the top (writers, directors) are not identical.
 
2009-03-30 10:55:40 AM
www.whatevs.org
 
2009-03-30 11:01:58 AM
Mother's Bloody Sperm: pd771: Mother's Bloody Sperm: The best Batman series was TAS, before the Superman TAS team plundered it to shiat with the Animated Adventures or whatever it was called.

you know the same guys did both those series, right?

False:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103359/fullcredits#writers (new window)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118266/ (new window)

Same voice talent, some overlap in production staff, but the talent at the top (writers, directors) are not identical.


Dini wrote the most episodes for both. However, it wasn't exactly the same teams obviously, since they were working on both Superman and Batman at the same time. I'd still say it was mostly the core people.
 
2009-03-30 11:26:58 AM
Wonder Woman has really let herself go.....
smbatrails.com

www.detectiveboogaloo.com
 
2009-03-30 11:34:36 AM
PsyLord: So how easy to kill a "God" in the DC universe? I mean Ares seems fairly vulnerable compared to other DC characters (Superman, Darkseid, etc).

/not a DC reader


DC's been changing their characters recently, so that everyone isn't so "OMG" powerful. Even Superman is getting beat up a bit more sans kryptonite. I think they finally figured out that having characters, hero or villain, omni-powerful makes for a boring story.
 
2009-03-30 11:53:24 AM
Shadowknight: PsyLord: So how easy to kill a "God" in the DC universe? I mean Ares seems fairly vulnerable compared to other DC characters (Superman, Darkseid, etc).

/not a DC reader

DC's been changing their characters recently, so that everyone isn't so "OMG" powerful. Even Superman is getting beat up a bit more sans kryptonite. I think they finally figured out that having characters, hero or villain, omni-powerful makes for a boring story.


That was one of the things that turned me off of some many DC superheros outside of Batman. Superman, most of all. Comics, TV Shows, Movies. Because of his sole weakness being Kryptonite, everything he does becomes boring and formulaic. To illustrate, I whipped up this little flow chart of how Superman succeeds.

i89.photobucket.com
 
2009-03-30 11:58:04 AM
mooseyfate: Shadowknight: PsyLord: So how easy to kill a "God" in the DC universe? I mean Ares seems fairly vulnerable compared to other DC characters (Superman, Darkseid, etc).

/not a DC reader

DC's been changing their characters recently, so that everyone isn't so "OMG" powerful. Even Superman is getting beat up a bit more sans kryptonite. I think they finally figured out that having characters, hero or villain, omni-powerful makes for a boring story.

That was one of the things that turned me off of some many DC superheros outside of Batman. Superman, most of all. Comics, TV Shows, Movies. Because of his sole weakness being Kryptonite, everything he does becomes boring and formulaic. To illustrate, I whipped up this little flow chart of how Superman succeeds.


That's odd. I thought that (excepting the obvious "Superman smacks a biatch" stories) freed up writers to do more interesting things, like shoot Lois. I thought it was a really damn powerful image to have this nigh invulnerable being hear his wife get shot and leap across the planet to catch her before she hits the ground.
Other than the ignoring the physics of sound thing, of course. That's just silly.
 
2009-03-30 12:03:57 PM
wyrlss:

That's odd. I thought that (excepting the obvious "Superman smacks a biatch" stories) freed up writers to do more interesting things, like shoot Lois. I thought it was a really damn powerful image to have this nigh invulnerable being hear his wife get shot and leap across the planet to catch her before she hits the ground.
Other than the ignoring the physics of sound thing, of course. That's just silly.


Yeah, but once again, how many times, exactly, can one go after Lois or Jimmy or Clark's parents or whatever? That's called "boring". Of course, I've never liked Superman to begin with, so maybe I'm just being biased.
 
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