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2003-02-05 02:54:21 PM  
You are all wrong. You should believe what I believe.

and I believe we need more Boobies


Every man should believe in something, and THAT'S a belief many of us can "sink our teeth into", in a manner of speaking.
 
2003-02-05 02:55:41 PM  
For everyone that thinks homosexuality is some sort of trait, tell me how it wouldn't eventually die out? If a certain gene is there, and that gene is not passed on because homosexuals do not reproduce, then won't it become extinct? kind of like a tragic flaw.

Homosexuality has to be a choice. Kpar90 says so.
 
2003-02-05 02:55:51 PM  
How come bitter atheists can't spell? And who's being intolerant? I don't see anyone losing their life over this thread. Get over yourselves.
 
2003-02-05 02:57:54 PM  
I smell something burning, this religious debate is going along nicely but I would like to offer one small note. I like God but it's his fan club I can't stand. I've read A LOT of different bibles and studied many different religions but have yet to find one that I think has it right. If someone is a die hard Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc I say good for you. But I'm sure there are a lot of us that just can't get too caught up with the 'be good or the boogie man will spank you' hoopla that most religions preach. To each his own but who is to say one person is right in thier beliefs? If your religion says homosexuality is wrong then that's your view, sometimes the view of the same people who practice homosexual pedephile acts (no flame intended just an observation) Can't we all just get along?

BTW that chick is good looking but the lesbos can have her. As long as we get all the Bettie Page look-a-likes to the hetero side I'm happy.
 
2003-02-05 02:59:06 PM  
"Tolerant" and "Archaic" are not contradictory terms.

I tolerate archaic software programs at work every day. Meaning, I use them, even though I don't like them.

I'm tolerating your bullsh*t right now, meaning I'm subjecting myself to it without trying to forcibly stop it (except for the one comment which was a bit of a brain fart, addressed above). Other than to correct your horrendous misuse of the English language, as well as other beliefs presented as "fact" which are anything but.

You tolerate a child that is throwing a temper tantrum to get attention.

You tolerate a mosquito bite.

"Jumbo shrimp" is an oxymoron.

Following?
 
2003-02-05 03:00:54 PM  
THE BIBLE STATES QUITE CLEARLY!!!!

Larry 47:9 ~

" For Yah, he hath fingered his neihbor's shiatter, hath also innoculated the tractors and roofing tiles"


YOU CANT ARGUE WITH FACTS!!!!!!
 
2003-02-05 03:01:23 PM  
...but the god of Love hates fags, gives us cancer, burns us in hell if we are ingorent of his rituals, lets 1/3rd of all humanity live in hunger, wanted to keep birth control illegal, let there be Nazis, is all about circumsision, invented money, loves teh gold, gave us the plague, the nuke, AIDS, racism, sexism, slavery, the holocoust, the KKK (came from teh church), terrorism, WAR, torture. ect ect Oh wait he said that was all Eve's fault didnt he.

Read the book of Job, friend. It's not God who does those things, it's Satan.

And the latter, understandably, just loves it when men blame God.

Btw, there is no eternal torment for the majority of mankind in God's plan... simply death for those who insist on working the wages of sin, even after given the advantages of learning righteousness, without the undue influence of Satan, in the new millennium.

/But that's a long discussion for another thread.
 
2003-02-05 03:02:20 PM  
so does anybody know what the "H" stands for?
 
2003-02-05 03:03:37 PM  
won't someone please think of the Boobies!

man what got up everyone's butts today? its a lesbian playmate, don't think so much, enjoy the day

where's the love?
 
2003-02-05 03:04:07 PM  
Hip_about_time
...but the god of Love hates fags, gives us cancer, burns us in hell if we are ingorent of his rituals, lets 1/3rd of all humanity live in hunger, wanted to keep birth control illegal, let there be Nazis, is all about circumsision, invented money, loves teh gold, gave us the plague, the nuke, AIDS, racism, sexism, slavery, the holocoust, the KKK (came from teh church), terrorism, WAR, torture. ect ect Oh wait he said that was all Eve's fault didnt he.


correction: hates Sin, cancel exists (from fall of man), those men choose to reject Jesus "burn", birth control prohibitation is from the Pope, not God, nazis/taliban are sinners, isn't about circumcision any more (of flesh, but yes of heart), plague? sickness due to the fall (Gen. 3), the nuke? ummk, AIDS = fall of man (Gen 3 again) and easily avoidable imho, sexism = fall of man (Gen 3), slavery = sinners started, holocost = sinning mankind, KKK = not following Bible - comparable to taliban&koran, terrorism = fallen mankind, war = stopping sinners or sinners against innocent; either way one day there will be peace , torture = sinful man.

as for all eve's fault? no. both were responsible. GRrrrrrrr.
 
2003-02-05 03:04:54 PM  
Fark you all. I worship Onion13 for he speaks the truth. Go in peace, serve the Onion.
 
2003-02-05 03:05:04 PM  
Ooohhhh, it's all SATAN.

Wow. For a minute there, I was starting to feel responsible for my own actions. Whew.
 
2003-02-05 03:05:27 PM  
so does anybody know what the "H" stands for?

not a freaking clue. anyone ? anyone?!?!
 
2003-02-05 03:06:09 PM  
DannySpaz: I think the plural reference is more literary (I think of the Bible as a collection of works similar to, but less organized than, Shakespeare's works). In other words, when God first made himself known, he was in spirit (was that Yahweh, or Elohim?), then God made his presence known in person (Elohim, or Yahweh, whichever he was not the first time), then in spirit again. Three Gods for the price of one.

Then again, the discrepancy could be the result of mistranslations of dead languages, compounded by millenia of misunderstandings and word-of-mouth, and finally an arbitrary decision of what should and should not be included in the Bible. Remember, the Bible is the way it is because of the Catholic church (Council of Nicea...), not because God made it that way. Unless you think God works through the Catholic church, which makes one wonder why God is sodomizing little boys.
 
2003-02-05 03:06:57 PM  
I am perfectly tolerant of your backward, archaic views.

Notice the key words and the oxymoron therein.


By saying he's tolerant, I think he meant that he accepts that people have these views. Disagreeing with someone's views doesn't make one intolerant.

/Please try to keep up (and I mean that in the nicest way possible ;-)

Your pathetic attempt to bash my intelligence doesn't make your arguement any more convincing.
 
2003-02-05 03:07:41 PM  
And yet another lovely pseudo-Christian belief! Pay attention, everyone:

YOU ARE INHERENTLY EVIL. YOU CANNOT BE GOOD WITHOUT GOD.

That certainly makes a lot of this hogwash make more sense, doesn't it? :)
 
2003-02-05 03:08:12 PM  
wow...

""Its gettin' hot in here..."
 
2003-02-05 03:08:24 PM  
H. is for homo. Willem Dafoe told me so.
 
2003-02-05 03:10:30 PM  
Loveinaction: I read the book of Job, and think that to let his most valued creations suffer all this just to settle a bet with his old buddy is extremely petty. Why does he let Satan rum amuck here on earth if he is in control of every thing? If he is all powerfull then he is personally responsible for every thing under his power. Seems to me Satan is a euphimism for the evil beings among the race that actually created man. But I hope im wrong and do get to set in front of the one true god just once cause I have one question for him. Why did he make my young mother die so slowly so painfully while i looked on, what did she do to deserve that? There can be no acceptable answer.
 
2003-02-05 03:11:04 PM  
"Tolerant" and "Archaic" are not contradictory terms.

Okay, last time, because quite frankly the lack of reading comprehension (I give the benefit of doubt by attributing it to laziness) is becoming tedious.

The claim of "tolerance" was made, but in the same breath that individual used abusive terms along the lines of "backward, archaic views". (I won't even go into all the stfu's)

So, the point was, it's hypocritical to claim tolerance while, in the same breath CONTRADICT oneself by using abusive terms.

In effect, tolerance is either ignoring or politely addressing that which you are attempting to be tolerant of.

Saying, "I tolerate you, you imbecile" is not being tolerant, it's being hypocritical (and is an example of an oxymoron).

/I feel a verse coming on, something about swallowing camels but choking on gnats...
 
2003-02-05 03:11:13 PM  
Left hand lesbian albino midget eskimo...

Pardon my non sequitor, I wanted to be the first to say that.

M.E.biatch
(I've got a solution to this flamewar: Let's throw the intolerant Christians to the Diesels! all in favor say "Aye")

M.E.B.
((Intolerant Christian folk, a diesel referrs to a really BUTCH lesbian, FYI))
 
2003-02-05 03:11:59 PM  
Kpar90,

It's called a recessive gene. It would die out if it was a dominant gene.
 
2003-02-05 03:12:30 PM  
thats funny

i thought H was for JHeeezus
 
2003-02-05 03:14:31 PM  
Hip about time How would you have preferred your mom to die?
 
2003-02-05 03:14:39 PM  
H stands for Horatio, after Joseph's shifty uncle (the one with the gambling problem).
 
2003-02-05 03:14:53 PM  
quick
 
2003-02-05 03:15:58 PM  
YOU ARE INHERENTLY EVIL. YOU CANNOT BE GOOD WITHOUT GOD.


this is said to be inaccurate but, according to the Bible it is true. mankind is not "good".

any cop will tell you this, that people are dumb and evil. sure not EVERYONE but then again, catch anyone at the right time and they are sinners/law breakers. plain and simple.

i have met many humanitarians who are great people and do great things (i work for a non profit co) and they are far from perfect.

God's level of "good" is perfect, none of us have that but Jesus can impute upon us HIS righteousness.
 
2003-02-05 03:16:25 PM  
Bob: But this particular recessive gene would have to die out too. Since it relies on reproduction to be passed along. But then again, with multiple kids, one gets the gene and the others don't but pass them along, I can see it. But it still seems like the gene would die out faster than other traits, which does not explain why homosexuality is on the rise.

I still say it's a choice. I have no problem with it, but I hate people who make excuses for who they are. Just be that person.
 
2003-02-05 03:18:12 PM  
ohyeah i forgot to ask

what H are we talking about?
 
2003-02-05 03:18:31 PM  
So we have decided that either god is powerless against Satan or is a sadistic dick. Or a race of flawed beings just like us. Only they use us. Use us up.
 
2003-02-05 03:18:35 PM  
Kpar90

Just playing devil's advocate...but when did you decide to be straight? When did you make a concsious choice that sticking your peepee into a woman's holes is hot hot hot and sticking your peepee into a man's holes is gross gross gross?

I bet you never did. I bet you were just born that way. Am I right?
 
2003-02-05 03:19:04 PM  
....

First of all, there was *one* "stfu" which I retracted and re-explained above. Yet I am the one that isn't paying attention? Right.

Secondly, if you think "archaic" and "backward" equates to abusive language, equal to calling someone an "imbecile" (never mind that I wasn't even addressing an individual, but a system of beliefs), then I'm done arguing with you. Lord knows I wouldn't want to offend you by saying something abrasive like "poop" or "gosh darn."

Thirdly, people on the internet love to throw that "reading comprehension" barb around. In not so many words, I'll tell you what I usually tell them:

I comprehend what you have typed just fine. You are simply incorrect.
 
2003-02-05 03:21:49 PM  
Hip_About_Time:
You're right. I'm a practicing Christian (according to the qualifiers used on this thread) and I don't get that either. Its that very question which keeps most from accepting Christianity. Honestly, no one has a better answer other than, "Its God's will." And as a Christian I think that's a cop out. But I still "practice" because of a feeling. I feel guided every day and have felt that way as long as I can remember. My family rocks but I didn't grow up in a "Christian" home. I've had some depressing shiat happen in my life, too. But I still have that feeling. So I guess my point is the bible thumpers will thump all they want because that's how they feel. And no amount of their thumping will convert a soul. But please don't take whacks at the whole religion.

P.S- Fark needs more Boobies. No matter where you stand on religion there is one universal truth to unite us all:

Boobies = Good
 
2003-02-05 03:22:03 PM  
Bill Wyck: Sure, I was brought up a certain way. I was also sent to Baptist Sunday school every week, and taught to be a conservative Republican who dislikes minorities and does not drink or dance.

I drink plenty, still don't dance, but I'm now a non-believer conservative Democrat who dislikes affirmative action, but not minorities. I guess my point is that no matter what society or family tells you to do, there comes a point in your life where you decide to be what you want.
 
2003-02-05 03:22:22 PM  
Ooohhhh, it's all SATAN.
Wow. For a minute there, I was starting to feel responsible for my own actions. Whew.


You misunderstand... Satan is the root of the evil that befalls Man, but Satan doesn't "control" us (unless of course we succumb to his temptations or tribulations).

Loveinaction: I read the book of Job, and think that to let his most valued creations suffer all this just to settle a bet with his old buddy is extremely petty. Why does he let Satan rum amuck here on earth if he is in control of every thing?

A fair point, one which many have struggled with, myself included.

I think the answer lies in "free will" which is a magnificent example of a truly God-like creation and gift, one which in a way skews the idea that HE is in control of everything (because if He were, then we wouldn't truly have free will).

The tough concept is in God being timeless - for any given moment of time, God can indeed "know" everything and see everything. But man's actions can cause changes and adjustments to occur, and because Man has the free will to do right or wrong, certain actions that occur by said Man can influence how future events will turn out. (and that applies to the angels as well - did God "make" Satan go wrong, or even wish it? Of course not, but God doesn't make robots, and although He might have been able to imagine that free will in Men and Angels could lead to disaster, that didn't prevent Him from seeing His great plans come to fruition, in the past or in the future.

It's perhaps a poor way of explaining it, and it doesn't take away from God's majesty that He doesn't "control" everything. In a way, it makes Him even more majestic that He would risk such things as a Satan corrupting his creation, for a time, or that Jesus might very well have gone the way of the devil, rather than submit himself to his father's will.

/but like I said, that's a discussion for another thread, one that can't be decided in a few sentences.
 
2003-02-05 03:23:35 PM  
Kpar90 writes: But this particular recessive gene would have to die out too. Since it relies on reproduction to be passed along.

You really don't understand recessive genes, do you?

Chromosomes come in pairs. For a recessive trait to be expressed, the genes which code for it have to be present on both chromosomes in the pair. If the individual has the dominant genes on one strand and the recessive genes on the other, the condition is not expressed, but can still be passed down the genetic line.

This is basic high school biology.

And I always thought the H stood for "Hologram".

 
2003-02-05 03:25:23 PM  
Bob: But this particular recessive gene would have to die out too. Since it relies on reproduction to be passed along. But then again, with multiple kids, one gets the gene and the others don't but pass them along, I can see it. But it still seems like the gene would die out faster than other traits, which does not explain why homosexuality is on the rise.

Maybe homosexuality is not on the rise but it seems that way because people are more tolerant of it, therefore more people are comfortable admitting that they are homosexual.
 
2003-02-05 03:25:45 PM  
wow, that was pretty good dude,
 
2003-02-05 03:26:02 PM  
hrm. Seems we have lost site of the real reason for this thread.... a playmate has come out of the closet.

Discuss.
 
2003-02-05 03:27:41 PM  
To chime in w/ my $.02 My take on Bible-Thumpers and other religious zealots (Osama et all.) is as follows:

Religion is an ordered structured thing, a method for Men/Women to exert control over other Men/Women.

Spirituality is a personal relationship/belief between a person and their higher power.

I think too many "fundies" miss the point and the difference here, how many people do you think are encouraged and "saved" by "Bible-Thumpers" and "Missionaries". I would venture that more people have been turned away and disenchanted than have ever been shown to the path of grace by these activities. What makes one man's interpretation of God's Law superior to another man's interpretation?

I don't consider myself religious, instead I see myself as a spiritual person who has FAITH and a relationship with God, I really wonder about people who think only the "saved" go to heaven. Is life merely black and white, or shades of grey?

I wonder what motivates people to pass judgement on others, could it be they see fault in themselves.

Just a few things to think about DannySpaz and others, and ust to clarify, I myself am a Christian, but I do not interpret God's Law for anyone but myself, its that blame thing again.
 
2003-02-05 03:29:05 PM  
Loveinaction, I mean that was a good explanation
 
2003-02-05 03:29:22 PM  
Kpar90

Like heck you don't dance! That last post danced around my question pretty nicely!

I'll take sex out of the equation:

When did you make a conscious decision to begin disliking brussell sprouts? Yeah, they're nasty and they make the house stink, but some people really like them. Why would they make this choice? Don't they know how icky brussell sprouts are?

(on the very off chance you LIKE brussell sprouts, please substitute lima beans or spinach or whatever veggie you think is worst of the worst)
 
2003-02-05 03:29:40 PM  
Kpar90

Being gay is most definitely not a choice. Here's an analogy: Clasp your hands together, with your fingers interlocking. Notice that one thumb automatically goes over the other one. Now try it with the other thumb on top. Feels weird, doesn't it? Well it's nothing you chose, but one way just feels "right" for you, whereas that way would feel "wrong" to half the people in the world.

As a queer girl, I can tell you my sexual orientation certainly wasn't anything I chose, and my life would be a lot easier if I were straight.
 
2003-02-05 03:29:48 PM  
NaTaX: You're right. I belive that that woman and her man-hating cabal of evil lesbians are going to hell because I am right and if you disagree with me you're going with them.
 
2003-02-05 03:32:03 PM  
I comprehend what you have typed just fine. You are simply incorrect.

Not to flog the proverbial extinguished equine, but if you truly did read thoroughly and comprehend the point of the "hypocritical" post, then why did you repeatedly remark as if I was making the reference to tolerance versus archaic, a la

Tolerant" and "Archaic" are not contradictory terms.

which was never part of my argument?

Secondly, if you think "archaic" and "backward" equates to abusive language, equal to calling someone an "imbecile" (never mind that I wasn't even addressing an individual, but a system of beliefs), then I'm done arguing with you.

Well, I hope so, because you know full well your intent of the use of those worlds was to disparage the holders of said views.

Lord knows I wouldn't want to offend you by saying something abrasive like "poop" or "gosh darn."

No, the words themselves don't offend - just the obviously smarmy intent of the speaker.
 
2003-02-05 03:32:38 PM  
Hip_about_time: I feel your pain, had the same problem with my mother about 8 years ago. Just remember what they say, if something great happens it's a miracle, when something bad happens, he just works in mysterious ways. Or at least that's how everyone views it. If there is a singular god over everyone I think he does some farked up things.
 
2003-02-05 03:35:06 PM  
Hip about time What's really the difference between your mom dying quickly or slowly? The end result is exactly the same.
 
2003-02-05 03:37:18 PM  
note for those who are stupid: my above post is sarcasm

/obvious
 
2003-02-05 03:37:48 PM  
Never part of your argument? Well, holy crap, I'm failing to comprehend my own words, then, because you quoted my phrase "backward, archaic views" line at least twice. If that wasn't the basis of your own smarmy labelling of me as a hypocrite, I must confess that I'm not quite certain what is, since you quoted it directly in that post.

And no, if I wanted to disparage the holder of said views, I would have said "backward, archaic people." There is a distinct difference between attacking a person and attacking a person's beliefs, opinions, or arguments. So I suggest you take those nails out of your palms and come down off of your cross.

And yeah, I'm sarcastic. If that offends you, you are free to be intolerant of it and stop speaking to me. :)
 
2003-02-05 03:38:49 PM  
Songfemme needs to go get more popcorn to munch on...
 
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