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(Some Guy)   Even if you're a pro football player, run a red light in Texas and the cops will absolutely not let you have the last seconds with your dying mother-in-law. Even if they stop you with no chase in the hospital parking lot with nurses pleading   (wfaa.com) divider line 552
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2009-03-26 02:59:20 PM  
pvd021: HideAndGoFarkYourself: feckingmorons: Cops should never piss of ER nurses, never ever. That is a very, very bad thing to do if you are a cop.

I've been both. I like being a nurse, not so much being a cop but I was younger and only did it for nine months.

Next time that cop has to take someone he arrested to the ER he will be there for quite a long time. The guy going to jail doesn't mind, but the cop does because he has to sit there the whole time, and when his shift ends he has to call his supervisor to find someone to remote book the person or some other cop to babysit the prisoner.

If the cop ever comes in as a patient and he is not on the verge of death he will have to sit in the lobby. Usually if a cop comes in for something minor like a human bite, or a laceration they are in and out quickly - because we are paying taxes to we don't want them sitting around we want them working. Not Officer dick to the nurses. He will wait even after the fat woman with the crotch that smells like baking bread from across the room has been seen and sent home. He will wait until after every lunatic, crack whore, geezer who talks to himself and drunk who has pissed his pants is seen and then he will wait another 20 minutes.

He will be pushed out of the nursing station and all of the chairs will suddenly be filled when he wants to sit down and work on his paper. He will have to stand at the bedisde of anyone he brings in. Nobody will let him cuff his guy to the bed and take a leak, because the staff can't accept responsibility for his prisoner. He can't go get a coke from the machine and nobody will have time to get him one. He can't borrow a pen because the staff will tell him they all have blood on them and they always wear gloves. He won't be able to use the copier or given any white out.

Cops are in the ER a lot with their jobs, pissing off a nurse is a very unwise move. I hope there is another hospital close to Plano because this guy royally farked himself. No, actually I hope all the above happens to him because he deserves it.

So you're saying that you're going to deny or delay medical care because you get butthurt?

Yeah, you're who I want working in our hospitals.

Idiot.

Actually if you read what I read, you would understand that cops get special treatment in the ER room. In other words they get the VIP treatment, they get in and out fast, what he's trying to say is, if you're that much of a dickhead cop, you're going to get treated like everyone else. You're going to wait wait and wait some more, you're going to understand the term 'Patient', and then you're going to write a novel about it while waiting. The moral of the story is, don't bite the hand that will one day feed you. If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, maybe you should apply to the Dallas Police department, they may have a position open sometime soon.


Exactly, seems odd how many people could not understand that.
 
2009-03-26 02:59:54 PM  
CBR ME ASAP: Not to quibble, but aren't native Texans really Mexicans? I mean, we did take the land from Mexico.

No. Your history is a little off. The Texans took Texas from Mexico and then joined the US by treaty. We gave part of Colorado and New Mexico for statehood. And Texas has something like 70% non Hispanic population. Most of us are of German, English, or Scot-Irish decent.
 
2009-03-26 03:03:10 PM  
markie_farkie: FIre the cop.

Not only was he completely unable to put the situation in context (HELLO, STOPPED AT THE HOSPITAL ER) he went much further by completely ignoring both hospital staff AND other law enforcement and went out of his way to be an utter dickhead asshole cocksucker.

Civil suit in 3...2...

The even shiatter part is that any settlement will come out of MY pocket as a city taxpayer.. The city doesn't budget for that shiat and has to roll any payouts into the budget and cover it with tax increases the following year.

Way to go, dickhead.. Now leave, and get a job harassing pimply kids at some dirt mall somewhere..



win
 
2009-03-26 03:19:17 PM  
wmoonfox: Bender The Offender: As a former ER nurse, paramedic, and current nurse clinician I find this equally reprehensible. You're going to engage in unprofessional and unethical behavior to exact your brand of frontier justice? You're going to violate the nightengale oath just to serve your own bizarre sense of justice? I don't give a fark who they bring into my CCU, they're going to get the best possible care me and my staff can provide without consideration of their social standing. Just makes you guys 2 more assholes absuing what little power and authority your profession grants you. Why do't you let your CNO read what you wrote, see if they agree with selective care?

Care has nothing to do with it -- he was talking about going above and beyond the call of duty to make an officer's situation more bearable. Since that's not a requirement of any oath or expected from any job description, there really isn't a problem here. There's no "lower standard of care" involved with denying somebody the use of the copy machine, or refusing to get them a coke... they certainly aren't going to die sitting in a waiting room, in line to be treated for a minor injury like everyone else. Lack of preferential treatment does not equate to a lack of care.


Yep.
 
2009-03-26 03:19:45 PM  
Tavernknight: CBR ME ASAP: Not to quibble, but aren't native Texans really Mexicans? I mean, we did take the land from Mexico.

No. Your history is a little off. The Texans took Texas from Mexico and then joined the US by treaty. We gave part of Colorado and New Mexico for statehood. And Texas has something like 70% non Hispanic population. Most of us are of German, English, or Scot-Irish decent.


No, you had large numbers of white immigrants from the US moving into Mexico. The Mexican government was concern that they would attempt to take over (or that the US was trying to take some of their land) so they tried to limit immigration. This stated the seeds of rebellion among those immigrants later leading to outright rebellion with extra "volunteers" coming in from the US. US backed immigrants won and Texas became a separate nation and was that way for 10 years since the US government was in no rush to add another slave state to the union. Your use of the term Texans was incorrect since at the time they were really illegal immigrants.
 
2009-03-26 03:21:38 PM  
you smell something: Bender the Offender
REALLY? i just love it when some administrative twit that is not involved in patient care steps up to the plate with some sanctimonious crap to tell the people providing the actual care how to do their jobs better...


Man, then you will love Obamacare!
 
2009-03-26 03:24:17 PM  
Bender The Offender: wmoonfox:

Care has nothing to do with it -- he was talking about going above and beyond the call of duty to make an officer's situation more bearable. Since that's not a requirement of any oath or expected from any job description, there really isn't a problem here. There's no "lower standard of care" involved with denying somebody the use of the copy machine, or refusing to get them a coke... they certainly aren't going to die sitting in a waiting room, in line to be treated for a minor injury like everyone else. Lack of preferential treatment does not equate to a lack of care.

Hey, thanks for your input. And, since I'm sure you're an ER nurse yourself and have an intimate understanding of triage, you can explain

If the cop ever comes in as a patient and he is not on the verge of death he will have to sit in the lobby. Usually if a cop comes in for something minor like a human bite, or a laceration they are in and out quickly - because we are paying taxes to we don't want them sitting around we want them working. Not Officer dick to the nurses. He will wait even after the fat woman with the crotch that smells like baking bread from across the room has been seen and sent home. He will wait until after every lunatic, crack whore, geezer who talks to himself and drunk who has pissed his pants is seen and then he will wait another 20 minutes.

How that passage is not a failure to treat. Do you even have any concept of how filthy a humans mouth is? In your expert medical opinion why don't you go ahead and explain how a yeast infection rates higher than a laceration or bite on the triage scale. So, we either have complete incompetence or malicious failure to treat.. Or maybe you have a better defense?


Oh please, put bactroban on it now, or in three hours it will not make any difference. You are a real prick.

The one's who were paramedics always think they are saving the world because they 'worked the street'. Please, get over your self.
 
2009-03-26 03:25:58 PM  
Bender The Offender: wmoonfox:
Yeah, go eat a bowl of dicks, you self-righteous twat.

You didn't hesitate to throw your ignorant opinion in when the assholes where conspiring to triage maliciously, now you want to cry and act like a retard when called on your ignorance? How about you keep your farking mouth shut when someone who knows a whole lot better than you what is and isn't considered malpractice calls the dicks out that are conspiring to commit it and you can avoid the little butthurt, profanity-laced temper-tantrums?

Let's review, shall we? You don't understand triage. You ran your farking mouth, acting like you did. I correct you and you got butthurt and responded like a pissed off 3 year old. Did I miss anything?


Yeah, you missed the part where he is right. Several times.
 
2009-03-26 03:27:22 PM  
feckingmorons: Actually if you read what I read, you would understand that cops get special treatment in the ER room. In other words they get the VIP treatment, they get in and out fast, what he's trying to say is, if you're that much of a dickhead cop, you're going to get treated like everyone else. You're going to wait wait and wait some more, you're going to understand the term 'Patient', and then you're going to write a novel about it while waiting. The moral of the story is, don't bite the hand that will one day feed you. If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, maybe you should apply to the Dallas Police department, they may have a position open sometime soon.

I'm much rather have him as my nurse than you. You'd probably get upset at me for something I said and delay my medication to make me suffer.

This cop is an asshole because he enjoyed wielding the tiny bit of power he had over other people. You seem to have the exact same problem.

/leaving a human bite for 12 hours is pretty much guaranteeing an infection.
 
2009-03-26 03:30:59 PM  
notmtwain: My bad. I read it again.

The player was evidently the one held back at the car. I think the article is very poorly written. The only way to tell is the "'My mother-in-law is dying,' Moats interrupted" quote is placed after the "'Excuse me, my mom is dying,' Moats said." quote which then says that Moats and another woman ignored the officer and ran into the hospital to see her mother.

Can I get a harumph from the grammar nazis?


No. It's written fine.
 
2009-03-26 03:33:13 PM  
Obdicut: feckingmorons: Actually if you read what I read, you would understand that cops get special treatment in the ER room. In other words they get the VIP treatment, they get in and out fast, what he's trying to say is, if you're that much of a dickhead cop, you're going to get treated like everyone else. You're going to wait wait and wait some more, you're going to understand the term 'Patient', and then you're going to write a novel about it while waiting. The moral of the story is, don't bite the hand that will one day feed you. If you're too dense to understand the underlying message, maybe you should apply to the Dallas Police department, they may have a position open sometime soon.

I'm much rather have him as my nurse than you. You'd probably get upset at me for something I said and delay my medication to make me suffer.

This cop is an asshole because he enjoyed wielding the tiny bit of power he had over other people. You seem to have the exact same problem.

/leaving a human bite for 12 hours is pretty much guaranteeing an infection.


Let me clarify that for you - human bite, pretty much guarantees an infection. If you are triaged, the wound dressed and you are sent to the lobby, you are still going to get the same treatment and abx as if you sit in the lobby for six hours before you are seen.

Thanks for the medical advice on Fark because we never would have made it through the day without it C.Everitt.
 
2009-03-26 03:34:16 PM  
dickhead racist cop harasses black guy. The nation of Farkistan rushed to defend the cop's actions while making veiled racist statements.

is this a repeat?
 
2009-03-26 03:39:57 PM  
Latinwolf: No, you had large numbers of white immigrants from the US moving into Mexico. The Mexican government was concern that they would attempt to take over (or that the US was trying to take some of their land) so they tried to limit immigration. This stated the seeds of rebellion among those immigrants later leading to outright rebellion with extra "volunteers" coming in from the US. US backed immigrants won and Texas became a separate nation and was that way for 10 years since the US government was in no rush to add another slave state to the union. Your use of the term Texans was incorrect since at the time they were really illegal immigrants.

There were roughly 4,000 Tejanos, who were mostly of colonial Spanish descent. The cultural difference between the northern Tejanos and the rest of those in Mexico was stark.

Also, I take issue with your use of the phrase "Mexican government." The Texas Revolution occurred because General Santa Anna revoked the Mexican Constitution of 1824 (which allowed generally free federalist states) and installed himself as dictator. Revoking the 1824 Constitution also led to several other Mexican states declaring independence and creating the former Republic of Yucatan and the Republic of the Rio Grande.

1836.
 
2009-03-26 03:42:44 PM  
feckingmorons: Let me clarify that for you - human bite, pretty much guarantees an infection. If you are triaged, the wound dressed and you are sent to the lobby, you are still going to get the same treatment and abx as if you sit in the lobby for six hours before you are seen.

Ah, nothing like revising your position to make it more reasonable.

You are still the same as the cop, and I hate medical personnel like you. Your job requires that you dispense care to everyone. The system doesn't work if it becomes your little power-trip playground. This is no different from a cop screwing with someone because they don't like them. You feel like you have a valid reason; that's fine, but the powers granted to you by your position aren't yours to use to settle personal scores.

This cop abused his power. You admit that you would, and probably have, abuse your power. I think the punishment for people who abuse power should be to lose that power.
 
2009-03-26 03:43:20 PM  
ScreamingInDigital: dikkcor28: How is what dick? Did you read the article? The whole issue seemed to be insurance. I'm sure he can afford insurance, and in the extended period of time he spent demanding to see insurance, he could have typed 6 letters/numbers into a computer and found out if he had insurance in seconds.

I don't know about Texas, but in at least some other states, even if you have insurance, not providing proof of it (i.e. your insurance card) is an offense by itself.

I'm not arguing the cop was a dick, but saying he could have checked it electronically doesn't absolve the driver of providing the card.


Not having insurance is the offense, If you dont have proof you get the ticket for not having insurance until you prove you had it at the time of the offense
 
2009-03-26 03:48:59 PM  
I too think the cop is a royal douche, and if farking NURSES have to try to pull you away from the cop, then he's obviously a heartless piece of shiat who needs to go count fenceposts in West Texas for a living.
 
2009-03-26 04:01:47 PM  
SangamonTaylor: Latinwolf: No, you had large numbers of white immigrants from the US moving into Mexico. The Mexican government was concern that they would attempt to take over (or that the US was trying to take some of their land) so they tried to limit immigration. This stated the seeds of rebellion among those immigrants later leading to outright rebellion with extra "volunteers" coming in from the US. US backed immigrants won and Texas became a separate nation and was that way for 10 years since the US government was in no rush to add another slave state to the union. Your use of the term Texans was incorrect since at the time they were really illegal immigrants.

There were roughly 4,000 Tejanos, who were mostly of colonial Spanish descent. The cultural difference between the northern Tejanos and the rest of those in Mexico was stark.

Also, I take issue with your use of the phrase "Mexican government." The Texas Revolution occurred because General Santa Anna revoked the Mexican Constitution of 1824 (which allowed generally free federalist states) and installed himself as dictator. Revoking the 1824 Constitution also led to several other Mexican states declaring independence and creating the former Republic of Yucatan and the Republic of the Rio Grande.

1836.


Funny the Texas Historical Commission web site does refer to it as a Government and calls Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, the president of Mexico. Excuse me if I take their word over yours.
 
2009-03-26 04:03:03 PM  
SchlingFocker: Latinwolf: I think people were bashing Bender for his lack of reading comprehension skills.

No, his reading skills were spot-on.

feckingmorons said that he would actively try to make the cop wait longer than anyone else, regardless of the priority, triage-wise.

Actively working to delay patient care based on your personal feelings about a patient is highly unethical. Even if you're somehow able to find a technicality to justify delaying the care, your intent is what makes the action unethical.


No, actually I didn't you have about the same reading comprehension skills as Bender.

There are several different categories of urgency in an ER.
Emergent - people who are actively dying now.
Urgent - people who are not dying now, but will be in the next few hours, or people who will lose sight, or function.
Semi (or less than) urgent- people who are not dying but are in great pain
Non-urgent - minor wounds, chronic non-life threatening conditions, uncomplicated rashes, conditions exacerbated because of failure of the patient to seek care - ongoing vaginal discharge, an 'itchy' anus, a dentalgia
Routine - medication refills, well care, immunizations, crap you wonder why they come to the ER

Inside the buckets you prioritize the patients as needed, if someone Emergent comes in it bumps everyone back. Triage is an ongoing process, not a fixed list. The people who are arseholes always get shoved back to the back of their bucket.

But since you are an expert I don't have to explain it to you.

Douchebag.
 
2009-03-26 04:03:12 PM  
Really?
467 comments, and no one mentions that the Chief's name is Kunkle?
Really??
 
2009-03-26 04:04:40 PM  
Obdicut: feckingmorons: Let me clarify that for you - human bite, pretty much guarantees an infection. If you are triaged, the wound dressed and you are sent to the lobby, you are still going to get the same treatment and abx as if you sit in the lobby for six hours before you are seen.

Ah, nothing like revising your position to make it more reasonable.

You are still the same as the cop, and I hate medical personnel like you. Your job requires that you dispense care to everyone. The system doesn't work if it becomes your little power-trip playground. This is no different from a cop screwing with someone because they don't like them. You feel like you have a valid reason; that's fine, but the powers granted to you by your position aren't yours to use to settle personal scores.

This cop abused his power. You admit that you would, and probably have, abuse your power. I think the punishment for people who abuse power should be to lose that power.


So because you don't like reality there should be fewer nurses.

Well thought out their genius.
 
2009-03-26 04:04:43 PM  
Latinwolf: OtherLittleGuy: Rusty Bumpers: The Police Union will cover for him.

Maybe, but I think this will be viral enough (and the other cops interceding) that he won't get COMPLETELY away with it. Suspension (with pay), maybe the Police Chief ripping him a new one at a press conference.

No maybe about it. Cop unions encourage this kind of behavior with their "it's always us vs them" mentality. The only time the union wouldn't cover for him would be if one (white) cop killed another (white) cop.


However, the video we're seeing is from a cop car (Did not watch the video), right? If they were as much about remaining closeknit, this would have surfaced around the time of the Cubs' World Series championship.

I'm not as convinced this is going to be pushed under the carpet.
 
2009-03-26 04:07:24 PM  
What is really pointed up to me in these situations is that there aren't enough fatal self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head accidents at the police academies.

Weeding out the stupid ones would be a good start.
 
2009-03-26 04:11:50 PM  
SchlingFocker: pvd021: Actually if you read what I read, you would understand that cops get special treatment in the ER room. In other words they get the VIP treatment, they get in and out fast, what he's trying to say is, if you're that much of a dickhead cop, you're going to get treated like everyone else.

But, that isn't what feckingmorons was saying they'd do.

He said that they'd make them wait behind everyone, regardless of whether the cop was a higher level of priority, triage-wise.

He said that he'd make them wait behind every single person and then an additional 20 minutes.

That is pretty much the antithesis of providing timely, professional care to a patient.

Anyone who's seen me post on Fark knows that I can't stand pigs. But, if I'm in the ER and a shiatbird cop is a patient, he'll get the same quality of care I extend to everyone.


Yes it is exactly what I said I would do. Are you really that dense?
If the cop ever comes in as a patient and he is not on the verge of death he will have to sit in the lobby. Usually if a cop comes in for something minor like a human bite, or a laceration they are in and out quickly - because we are paying taxes to we don't want them sitting around we want them working. Not Officer dick to the nurses. He will wait even after the fat woman with the crotch that smells like baking bread from across the room has been seen and sent home. He will wait until after every lunatic, crack whore, geezer who talks to himself and drunk who has pissed his pants is seen and then he will wait another 20 minutes.


See all of those are not on the verge of death, they are minor problems best handled outside an ER.

This is not the nursing boards, Florence, the standard of care is the same, but the dick cop does not get the fast track that most cops get as a courtesy (because ER nurses like to get out of tickets too).

If repasting what I originally wrote didn't help you understand it then I am afrad you are a lost cause.
 
2009-03-26 04:14:46 PM  
Obdicut: What can you do to punish an asshole like that?

I would just like you to know that this is farking hilarious when taken out of context.
 
2009-03-26 04:18:03 PM  
Latinwolf: Tavernknight: CBR ME ASAP: Not to quibble, but aren't native Texans really Mexicans? I mean, we did take the land from Mexico.

No. Your history is a little off. The Texans took Texas from Mexico and then joined the US by treaty. We gave part of Colorado and New Mexico for statehood. And Texas has something like 70% non Hispanic population. Most of us are of German, English, or Scot-Irish decent.

No, you had large numbers of white immigrants from the US moving into Mexico. The Mexican government was concern that they would attempt to take over (or that the US was trying to take some of their land) so they tried to limit immigration. This stated the seeds of rebellion among those immigrants later leading to outright rebellion with extra "volunteers" coming in from the US. US backed immigrants won and Texas became a separate nation and was that way for 10 years since the US government was in no rush to add another slave state to the union. Your use of the term Texans was incorrect since at the time they were really illegal immigrants.


No, well ok you are partly right. Actually they were called Texians and they weren't illegal as they were invited to Texas from the US by the new Mexican government. Then the Mexican government started to treat the inhabitants of Texas, that's white settlers and the Hispanic settlers, like shiat. So the Texians (this is still including the Hispanic settlers from Mexico) decided they could run the show better. "Come and take it" was our battle banner back then and it still is.
 
2009-03-26 04:20:05 PM  
feckingmorons: So because you don't like reality there should be fewer nurses.

There should be fewer nurses like you, yes. Because I don't like abuse of power.

I know plenty of nurses. Wonderful people. All of them would think you're an ass.

Well thought out their genius.
 
2009-03-26 04:22:09 PM  
myspamhere: OK, here is a 'what if'

What if this cop has been lenient in the past, and that morning, his Sargent told him, if he lets one more driver go because of any excuse he will be fired or suspended or what ever they get.

What if there was a APB on a car matching that description with three people inside?

What if there was a threat to the hospital and he was security for it?

What if the police had a recent memo stating no special treatment for anyone, pro athlete, famous or rich, because of negative publicity.


There are many reasons for the cop to act the way he did.


You farking sheep who make excuses for this type of behavior deserve to have the Inglewood, CA police come over and shoot you in the face.
 
2009-03-26 04:27:08 PM  
AngryDragon Quote 2009-03-26 07:09:23 AM
Before all the cop bashers get into a really good lather I wanted to say this.

I have worked in law enforcement. I usually defend law enforcement because it is a thankless job. This asshole needs to go down, though. Fired? Definitely. Civil suit? I hope the plaintiff wins overwhelmingly. It's this kind of bullshiat that ruins the reputations of fair, honest, hard-working men and women in LE.

If he gets off, torches and pitchforks are authorized.



They do get paid right?
 
2009-03-26 04:30:45 PM  
Football players are usually dickheads anyway.
 
2009-03-26 04:37:07 PM  
"Officer Powell sounds like a complete ass. I would like to read the municipal code that allows him to arrest you for "failure to produce pot."

I had a Webster cop pull this exact same stunt on my stepdaughter about 8 years ago. Except he took her to jail for "drug paraphanelia" (sp). However, according to Texas law, having papers w/o dope is not illegal. She spent a night in jail, I had to put up $400.00 bail, and pay 225.00 for the tow.

Webster cops pull stunts like this b/c they know most kids will just pay the fine and move on, they make an industry out of it. We didn't "just pay the fine" as my stepdaughter's uncle is a lawyer and thoroughly enjoyed making them look like fools in Court. The charges were thrown out. Oh, and I forgot to mention, he (26 year old punk, she was 18 at the time) had written her a ticket 10 days before and asked her out at the same time. She turned him down. We got that ticket thrown out too.

Having a cop yell "I don't have to put up with this bullshiat" in open Court, then get chewed out by the Judge.....PRICELESS. I nearly got thrown out for laughing out loud. Of course, I didn't see my bail money back for over 3 months, and I was out the $ for getting her car back out of the tow lot.

We sold her car not long after that b/c, for some strange reason, she (and I once) started getting followed every time it went into Webster after that.

/ask anyone who lives near webster, they'll likely have a horror story to tell
 
2009-03-26 04:38:52 PM  
unchellmatt: "When other copsPlano cops are asking you to stop being a douche, you are REALLY being a douche. Holy hell man."


FTFY
 
2009-03-26 04:42:25 PM  
elismom: AngryDragon Quote 2009-03-26 07:09:23 AM
Before all the cop bashers get into a really good lather I wanted to say this.

I have worked in law enforcement. I usually defend law enforcement because it is a thankless job. This asshole needs to go down, though. Fired? Definitely. Civil suit? I hope the plaintiff wins overwhelmingly. It's this kind of bullshiat that ruins the reputations of fair, honest, hard-working men and women in LE.

If he gets off, torches and pitchforks are authorized.



They do get paid right?


Teachers, firefighters and police do not get paid enough.

Teachers have to deal with hundreds of children daily and attempt to keep them in control with ever increasing restrictions all the while trying to make sure they learn something. The last two have job hazards that the public don't have to deal with.
 
2009-03-26 04:48:04 PM  
For some reason, I keep thinking he should have done something like hand over his wallet (license) and keys and said, "Park it, Jeeves, and leave the ticket inside the window. It's a windy day."

/doesn't know if it was a windy day
 
2009-03-26 04:51:51 PM  
Obdicut: feckingmorons: So because you don't like reality there should be fewer nurses.

There should be fewer nurses like you, yes. Because I don't like abuse of power.

I know plenty of nurses. Wonderful people. All of them would think you're an ass.



Well thought out their genius.




Oh, geez I made a typographical error and used the wrong word. I should pay more attention to Fark. I need to start cutting and pasting my responses into word and spell and grammar checking them.

I will mail my nirsing license back, and then go take my life.

Oh, and lots of people think I am an ass, I got over caring about that a long time ago.

I bet your friends who are RNs would say exactly the same thing I would. When two patients with the same severity present the one that is a dick gets seen last. Ask them, and if I have not lept to my death from the parking garage for not using there in the sentence above yet I would like to know the answer.

Hurry because I am starting for the stairs.

Putz.
 
2009-03-26 05:00:15 PM  
JamesLi:

Teachers, firefighters and police do not get paid enough.

Teachers have to deal with hundreds of children daily and attempt to keep them in control with ever increasing restrictions all the while trying to make sure they learn something. The last two have job hazards that the public don't have to deal with.


i'll agree with one of three. many, many jobs have hazards that the public doesnt have to deal with. too bad.
 
2009-03-26 05:03:33 PM  
feckingmorons: Oh, geez I made a typographical error and used the wrong word.

While insulting someone else's intelligence.

feckingmorons: I bet your friends who are RNs would say exactly the same thing I would.

No, they wouldn't. We talk about medical ethics all the time. We've discussed the specific circumstance of one of the nurses treating a guy who'd been abusive to a friend of his.

When two patients with the same severity present the one that is a dick gets seen last.

Changing your argument again. What a wuss. Can't even be a dick with courage.

Oh, and lots of people think I am an ass, I got over caring about that a long time ago.

That's goddamn surprising as all hell, I tell ya. I can't believe you'd be at all off-putting to anyone.
 
2009-03-26 05:12:03 PM  
Just reminds me of the time I was harassed by a cop for 45 minutes about how I obviously had pot on me because of "how you look, shiathead!"

/finally gave my friend (the driver) a ticket for failure to maintain a lane after he and another officer tossed the car and couldn't find anything
//in my po-po dad's words, "yeah, that means 'I didn't find any pot' in flashing letters"
 
2009-03-26 05:16:51 PM  
feckingmorons: There are several different categories of urgency in an ER.

I'm well aware of that.

The people who are arseholes always get shoved back to the back of their bucket.

That's a piss-poor, unethical attitude. The minute you decide to fark with a patient by making them wait longer just because you don't like them, you've put yourself right there with the cop who decided to fark with this football player by making him wait longer just because he didn't like him.

If you've got a bunch of non-urgents, you go by "first in-first out".

Continually bumping someone to the back of the line just to fark with them doesn't pass the smell test. It's petty, and you're just lowering yourself to the level of the pigs.

This is not the nursing boards, Florence, the standard of care is the same

If you're farking with a patient by continually bumping them to the back of the line, the standard of care is not the same. Care extends beyond just patching them up and moving them out.

And, please don't mention the boards. I've got finals coming up soon, and I don't even want to THINK about the NCLEX yet.
 
2009-03-26 05:33:34 PM  
I haven't read the thread yet, but I plan to. Having held my father's hand during his last living moments a few weeks ago I feel horrible for this poor guy. Obviously she meant something to him and to know that he COULD have held her hand but was kept from doing so will gnaw at him for a long time.
 
2009-03-26 05:36:58 PM  
SchlingFocker: feckingmorons: There are several different categories of urgency in an ER.

I'm well aware of that.

The people who are arseholes always get shoved back to the back of their bucket.

That's a piss-poor, unethical attitude. The minute you decide to fark with a patient by making them wait longer just because you don't like them, you've put yourself right there with the cop who decided to fark with this football player by making him wait longer just because he didn't like him.

If you've got a bunch of non-urgents, you go by "first in-first out".

Continually bumping someone to the back of the line just to fark with them doesn't pass the smell test. It's petty, and you're just lowering yourself to the level of the pigs.

This is not the nursing boards, Florence, the standard of care is the same

If you're farking with a patient by continually bumping them to the back of the line, the standard of care is not the same. Care extends beyond just patching them up and moving them out.

And, please don't mention the boards. I've got finals coming up soon, and I don't even want to THINK about the NCLEX yet.


OK they guy does not keep getting bumped back over and over each time a new patient who is in the same bucket, but if there are 2 of the same severity that come in at about the same time, he goes second.

I did of course exagerate a bit above as this is fark. But the no pen, no white out stuff happens, we don't make then sit in the lobby in pain. But if they are nice we try to make their lives easier - we do the same for the firemen too because they have to deal with the same sorts of people we deal with every day, if they become those sorts of people they get treated just like everyone else.

Nursing is great you will like it.
 
2009-03-26 05:41:45 PM  
feckingmorons: OK they guy does not keep getting bumped back over and over each time a new patient who is in the same bucket, but if there are 2 of the same severity that come in at about the same time, he goes second.

I did of course exagerate a bit above as this is fark. But the no pen, no white out stuff happens, we don't make then sit in the lobby in pain. But if they are nice we try to make their lives easier - we do the same for the firemen too because they have to deal with the same sorts of people we deal with every day, if they become those sorts of people they get treated just like everyone else.


This sounds much more reasonable. My apologies if this is what you were trying to say earlier.

Nursing is great you will like it.

I already do, even with all the school bullshiat :)
 
2009-03-26 05:46:45 PM  
rabidferret: buddyrtr: I would also give Moats ten minutes, unsupervised, in a locked room with the former officer.

Heh, watching the video that Megain posted made me realize just how much self-control Moats must have had. Quite the contrast with the officer's behavior.


Quite the contrast to any other NFL player, also.
 
2009-03-26 05:47:09 PM  
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2009-03-26 06:00:11 PM  
Fire the cop as resolutely and publically as possible. Settle out of court with Moats so this deal never sees the inside of a court house. Fight the police officers union when they sue for wrongful termination. Update your hiring and training to be sure your officers have and use common sense. Kick your media relations up a gear for the next 6 months.
 
2009-03-26 06:12:58 PM  
This is the exact same one-size-fits-all, zero tolerance, ends-
justify-means, moralist mentality that was behind the legislation passed
(during the Clinton administration) stipulating that those con-
victed of drug crimes, no matter how petty, may not qualify for
Federal education financial assistance.

It's but another example of the self-righteous, "law-and-order,"
pro-Drug War nonsense that has been infecting the nation for far,
far too long.


Regulate it, tax it, clean it up.

Stop the war on U.S. citizens.
 
2009-03-26 06:16:12 PM  
oops, that was bound for another thread.
/too many tabs, so little time.
 
2009-03-26 06:23:34 PM  
Well, it's not like he was shot in the back while handcuffed and face down on the floor. Crybaby.
 
2009-03-26 06:33:40 PM  
Roquefort: oops, that was bound for another thread.
/too many tabs, so little time.


makes about as much sense as everything else I read on fark. +1
 
2009-03-26 06:43:16 PM  
I sent this article to my dad - retired police officer of 30 years - along with the comment from feckingmoron.

Here's his response:

It's nice to know that the PD has a competent and objective internal affairs division to look into this to determine all the facts before a decision is made as to whether or not misconduct occurred on the part of the officer. Otherwise the officer could be reflexively sold down the river without his side of the story being heard by his chief before the chief announces his guilt to the press. Oh, wait...

"I certainly hope anybody who saw the videotape immediately understood how serious the misconduct is," Chief Kunkle said Thursday afternoon. "I don't know how you train for these circumstances other than to hire people with good common sense and people skills."

Too late.

This was news to me:

"The essence of being a police officer is common sense and discretion," Chief Kunkle added. "I can't imagine a worse circumstance."

None of that "bravery, fidelity, integrity, upholding the law, aggressively pursuing criminals, etc" junk for him. And if he can't imagine a worse circumstance then he has only been in law enforcement for about an hour, tops. Either that or he is without doubt the most inexperienced chief any department has ever had.

Probably the officer screwed up, but everyone who reads those stories in the news about the silly and humorous stories people tell cops to get out of tickets, like my wife is pregnant or I gotta get to the hospital because...fill in the blank, immediately forget that when they read the stories they agree the cop shouldn't have believed them. Then, when it's a celebrity involved it's the very chief saying: "I can't imagine a worse circumstance."

I didn't see the vid, but people need to remember "investigate" is a verb, or action word, and actions take time. I've pulled people over who act as though they are in too big a hurry to be detained. Sometimes they are clueless, sometimes they are criminals. The officers can't know that until he investigates (which, as noted above, is not one of the core skills of an officer) and in the time he's doing that it can turn to crap in any number of ways. Since the chief can't imagine a worse circumstance, I would bet he has not investigated that many things. Especially in the heat of the moment, when the heat is being turned up and people are screaming at you and you don't know why.

The officer pulled someone over, they told him a story, fled (or left) the car and he's stuck with an uncooperative driver/suspect/unkonwn person and trying to figure it out. When the officer tells people to stay where they are, he has the lawful authority to do that and they have a lawful duty to comply or face the consequences and charges. When the other officer and the nurse came out, if (and I mean "if") that's how it happened, he should have relented. But the chief should have shown a little more "common sense and discsretion" before gutting his officer for the press. No matter what the officer is screwed and no responsibility will be placed on the driver. It will be totally and completely the fault of the officer on the ground trying to figure out and control a situation not of his making. Just like that chief. Only the chief won't pay a price.

Which is why your uncle and I often quote a line from "HMS Pinafore": A policeman's lot is not a happy one.

I also agree with the comment about not hacking of nurses and doctors, with the caveat that sometimes it's unavoidable. But I always remembered that in my line of work I could be looking up at any of them from a table. I preferred to be on good terms. In general there is natural bond between nurses, particulary ER nurses, and officers.


so there ya go.
 
2009-03-26 06:43:22 PM  
nopokerface: That does suck. No one should miss the chance to watch their mother-in-law die.

Best comment of the thread...at least so far, I'm only about 200 comments in.
 
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