Can we stop calling "abstract art" actual art? Any idiot can do abstract art, and you can't tell it from the stuff that sells for millions.

My problem with the "ugly-ass" meme is it fails to distinguish between actual cute, 'awwww' worthy pictures and this monster, who is indeed ugly-ass.

The dog went on to pee on "Mein Kampf"

oh for farks sake. I want the time back I used to read this shiat.

GAT_00: Can we stop calling "abstract art" actual art? Any idiot can do abstract art, and you can't tell it from the stuff that sells for millions.

This. Objectively, I don't see how Ziggy's work is any less meaningful than, say, Pollock's. But what do I know about art... I prefer pictures of dogs playing poker anyway.

GAT_00: Can we stop calling "abstract art" actual art? Any idiot can do abstract art, and you can't tell it from the stuff that sells for millions.

modern wank (new window)

and any idiot will buy it. :------DDDD

This guy's not impressed.

After seeing the pic in that article, this one now makes sense.

Portrait of the artist as a young pup?

GAT_00: Can we stop calling "abstract art" actual art? Any idiot can do abstract art, and you can't tell it from the stuff that sells for millions.

can we start using the proper terminology? That is a good example of non-representational art.

Abstract art portrays actual objects or themes in... follow me here... an abstract way.

Toriko: Is it just me, or do the brush-strokes in the image of the dog painting look NOTHING LIKE the brush strokes on the finished works?

In other words - FAKE

Plus the fact that the brush in the photo is backwards, he's 'painting' with the wooden end of it.

What? Why no "your dog wants a gallery showing" ?

Haplo127x: Toriko: Is it just me, or do the brush-strokes in the image of the dog painting look NOTHING LIKE the brush strokes on the finished works?

In other words - FAKE

Plus the fact that the brush in the photo is backwards, he's 'painting' with the wooden end of it.

no, i think you're wrong on this one.

i'm not saying i give a shiat about this particular dog, but that's a brush with paint the little dog is holding.

Art? You call that art? My DOG could...
Oh.
But seriously, can some artsy type here explain the difference between "abstract" and "random"?

BokerBill: But seriously, can some artsy type here explain the difference between "abstract" and "random"?

as i said in my previous post, abstract art depicts an actual object or theme in an abstract way. (think Picasso)

What the dog is doing is non-representational art.

That being said, it doesnt have a lot of value aside from being "pretty." add to this the fact that the only colors dogs can really see are blue and grey, and blue-grey, and it becomes pretty suspicious that the colors on the canvasses are so often complementary to eachother.

Non-representational art relies on other artistic themes to create an overall effect.

for example a piece may be called "anger" and it wouldnt actually look like any object or thing, but it would be strewn with reds and oranges, hard, fast brushstrokes (think about the difference between how you do something when you're content vs. angry.) for example, if im cleaning my house and im pissed off, i tend to slam things, throw the socks into the drawer rather than place them, etc.

a piece called "serenity" might include a spaceship and cowboys... just kidding... it would be softer colors, gentler brush strokes, perhaps a more organised arrangement of strokes, etc.

Posting in an epic Pekingese thread.

He calls this one "Serenity Now!"

How do we know the dog wasn't going for a theme?

/and yeah, until I see a video from blank canvas to end, this is the owner painting

DirkValentine: Haplo127x: Toriko: Is it just me, or do the brush-strokes in the image of the dog painting look NOTHING LIKE the brush strokes on the finished works?

In other words - FAKE

Plus the fact that the brush in the photo is backwards, he's 'painting' with the wooden end of it.

no, i think you're wrong on this one.

i'm not saying i give a shiat about this particular dog, but that's a brush with paint the little dog is holding.

Take a better look at the first photo. The brush end with the metal piece is not on the paper, it's up against the paper tube. The end on the paper is the wooden end.

That's not a dog, it's a mop without the handle.

To me that reeks of someone trying to make a picture that looks like it's painted by a dog rather than one actually painted by a dog.

The way the strokes are spaced out in a semi-random but even way, that's someone specifically trying to fill white space. The black strokes very rarely over-lap despite there being a large number of them. All the animal art I've ever seen that wasn't human guided usually results in a blob of colour in the middle of the page or a few messy strokes.

The dog may have had the paintbrush on his head at the time but that painting especially is one that's been guided by a human.

Everyone here is overlooking the fact that this story is from the Daily Fail. Clearly it's been doctored to generate conservative ire at dogs usurping hard-working, native-born Briton artists.

/I for one welcome our new lupine overlords.

You guys know there are a bunch of YouTube videos of this dog and that this is old news, right?

100% dumb

Now that's journalism.

Jeesh.. I actually stumble upon a topic i know something about (art) and give some relevant info, and noone responds...

yet when i troll the politics tab...

/just sayin'

I thought that looked like a Ziggy.

Crocodilly_Pontifex: Jeesh.. I actually stumble upon a topic i know something about (art) and give some relevant info, and noone responds...

yet when i troll the politics tab...

/just sayin'

Crocodilly_Pontifex: BokerBill: But seriously, can some artsy type here explain the difference between "abstract" and "random"?

as i said in my previous post, abstract art depicts an actual object or theme in an abstract way. (think Picasso)

What the dog is doing is non-representational art.

That being said, it doesnt have a lot of value aside from being "pretty." add to this the fact that the only colors dogs can really see are blue and grey, and blue-grey, and it becomes pretty suspicious that the colors on the canvasses are so often complementary to eachother.

Non-representational art relies on other artistic themes to create an overall effect.

for example a piece may be called "anger" and it wouldnt actually look like any object or thing, but it would be strewn with reds and oranges, hard, fast brushstrokes (think about the difference between how you do something when you're content vs. angry.) for example, if im cleaning my house and im pissed off, i tend to slam things, throw the socks into the drawer rather than place them, etc.

a piece called "serenity" might include a spaceship and cowboys... just kidding... it would be softer colors, gentler brush strokes, perhaps a more organised arrangement of strokes, etc.

You talk like a fag and your shiat's all retarded.

Better?

/kidding

As a professional artistic painter, this is offensive to people with actual disciplined skill. Stop using your pets, kids etc as your own personal attention whores.

chipspastic: Crocodilly_Pontifex: Jeesh.. I actually stumble upon a topic i know something about (art) and give some relevant info, and noone responds...

yet when i troll the politics tab...

/just sayin'

Crocodilly_Pontifex: BokerBill: But seriously, can some artsy type here explain the difference between "abstract" and "random"?

as i said in my previous post, abstract art depicts an actual object or theme in an abstract way. (think Picasso)

What the dog is doing is non-representational art.

That being said, it doesnt have a lot of value aside from being "pretty." add to this the fact that the only colors dogs can really see are blue and grey, and blue-grey, and it becomes pretty suspicious that the colors on the canvasses are so often complementary to eachother.

Non-representational art relies on other artistic themes to create an overall effect.

for example a piece may be called "anger" and it wouldnt actually look like any object or thing, but it would be strewn with reds and oranges, hard, fast brushstrokes (think about the difference between how you do something when you're content vs. angry.) for example, if im cleaning my house and im pissed off, i tend to slam things, throw the socks into the drawer rather than place them, etc.

a piece called "serenity" might include a spaceship and cowboys... just kidding... it would be softer colors, gentler brush strokes, perhaps a more organised arrangement of strokes, etc.

You talk like a fag and your shiat's all retarded.

Better?

/kidding

Fabulous!

You know who else used to paint pretty cool pictures?



/Hot like a dog.

UsikFark: I read it, but this seems to be about as artistic as if the owner had thrown a paint-covered dog at a canvas. Meanwhile, I think the notion of "my 6yo could do that" comes from art being presented to a larger than intended group. Some art is very personal, but that same art might not survive a public showing with dignity. "my dog can make a mess" might not mean a lot to anyone but the owner.


/I make this post hoping you arn't trolling or AWing.

I never said she was good. It looks to me like a human trying to mimic their idea of how a dog would paint...


here are some examples to compare:



that one is called "waterfront reflections" i think. kinda makes you think of reflections in the water.


here's one called "Time waves"
Kinda makes you think of what time might look like, if you could "see" time all at once? maybe?

anyway, this is the general idea.

here is some "non-representational art"



its called "linea art." its supposed to be pretty. period.

heres another:



for those of you who dont speak german, the text below says

"Composition with greater red color, yellow, black, grey and blue."

thats the name.


Do you see the difference now?

/now give me $400
//thats half of what a semester of "Art Theory" costs at a state uni. and i just gave you the cliff notes version.

Crocodilly_Pontifex: for those of you who dont speak german, the text below says

"Composition with greater red color, yellow, black, grey and blue."

thats the name.

The shorter title is "Partridgebusen".

GAT_00: Can we stop calling "abstract art" actual art? Any idiot can do abstract art, and you can't tell it from the stuff that sells for millions.

And yet, not every idiot does.

/jealous much?
//trying to capture a single emotion in a non-representative painting is harder than it looks, and I've tried

sloppy shoes: My problem with the "ugly-ass" meme is it fails to distinguish between actual cute, 'awwww' worthy pictures and this monster, who is indeed ugly-ass.

That's what I was thinking. I can't decide if ugly-ass was comedically contradictory, or actually descriptive. I prefer the former, but in this case, it's the latter.

rabidferret: /I for one welcome our new lupine overlords.

CANINE overlords.

That rat-dog is as far away from a wolf as you can get.

That's not a dog, that's a dust mop.