We've all been there... most of us don't actually hit that asshat that steps out into the middle of farking traffic, but we've all wanted to.

Still, Stallworth is a dumbass. You can't just hit people with your car, silly.

If you've got the time to flash headlights at a pedestrian in front of your oncoming car, you've got time to hit the horn, the brakes, make an emergency move to avoid him, etc.

IOW, Stallworth assumed the pedestrian would get out of his way and took no other action to avoid hitting him other than announcing "here I come, Mr. NFL star, get out of my way" by flashing his lights.

Whether he was drunk or not, it certainly appears by his own admission he ran over the pedestrian after he knew he was there.

/Browns fan
//not a Stallworth fan

The article missed the report from the arresting officers that the breathalyzer administered on the scene put Stallworth at twice the legal limit. And in the flashing his lights and this will be a vehicular homicide charge.

Give the guy a break. Everybody gets the headlights mixed up with the brakes or the horn!

Unless alcohol or drugs were involved, Stallworth will not get any prison time, will get a long probation and tons of community service.

What is going to hurt him though is that Civil lawsuit that is being written up (probably as we speak) by the grieving family.

He'd be best suited to go ahead and offer them something like a million as a settlement.

/Not a lawyer, but I hit people with my car daily.

I was all set to come in here and defend Stallworth, until astroti sent me to the googles. Blood tests put his BAC between 0.08 and 0.16 at the time of the crime. At 7 AM in the morning?!
Let him fry.

Sounds like someone mistimed his route.

Ok my first impression was that the guy was in the lane as donte flashed his lights. The most likely scenario was that he was crossing the other five lanes of traffic when he flashed his lights. You run out in traffic, you might get hit. But, yes, Donte saw him and if he was sober, probably would not have hit him. I think he'll get a couple years in the pokey.

Lost Thought 00 I don't see him coming away from this with less than 10 years in prison/probation.

Four years tops.

astrotri

I am not sure about Florida criminal law, but in MI if you kill anyone with your car than it is vehicular homicide at the lowest level. Involuntary manslaughter is out of the question when the defendant committed the act in a car. In order to convict Stallworth for 1st or 2nd degree murder they would have to prove intent which I don't think they could with the flashing headlights.

insano: downtownkid: Sounds like someone mistimed his route.

He couldn't get open. The pedestrian was all over the place.

Donte really dropped the ball on this one.

Normally, Stallworth is the one who can't move over the middle.

astrotri

The article missed the report from the arresting officers that the breathalyzer administered on the scene put Stallworth at twice the legal limit. And in the flashing his lights and this will be a vehicular homicide charge.

I had not read this at this point. You have a source for that?

Okay, I looked it up. There is one "unidentified source" that says he was over the legal limit. The police are not commenting. Maybe that is why the article left it out...Since it is not confirmed. Have the police come out and confirmed this yet?

That other NFL guy...Leonard Little maybe? He killed some people while driving (I believe drunk)...How much time did he do?

Here is the crash report.

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srhp29

90 days and he blew a .19

triptrap: srhp29

90 days and he blew a .19

According to the report from the scene (posted above) it doesn't show that they did a breath test. They took a blood sample.

tumba00

That was referring to srhp29's question about L. Little and not Stallworth.

triptrap: tumba00

That was referring to srhp29's question about L. Little and not Stallworth.

My bad I meant to quote your original post about the police report saying he blew twice the limit. From the actual report it shows strictly a blood test no breath test.

triptrap

srhp29

90 days and he blew a .19

Good thing he didn't run over dogs...he would have spent a lot more time in jail. Also, the league let him right back in didn't it? Pac Man Jones has never killed anyone...to my knowledge.

insano: insano: downtownkid: Sounds like someone mistimed his route.

He couldn't get open. The pedestrian was all over the place.

I should have said: 'He couldn't get open. The pedestrian was all up in his grill.'

/Thread

Also in consideration will be any toxicology done on the pedestrian. If the pedestrian was drunk/high, that will play a factor into this.

Lost Thought 00: NikolaiFarkoff: If you flash your headlights at a pedestrian or car, it typically means "go ahead" in the US. Or "move right" on a multi-lane highway.

Pretty much. Basically admitting this means he might be even more culpable than before, since it can be argued that it wasn't an accident, but that he knowingly ran the man down. His lawyers must either suck, or wanting to put a muzzle on him.

I don't see him coming away from this with less than 10 1 year in prison/probation.

I doubt he even sees a jail cell.

MattyFridays: Also in consideration will be any toxicology done on the pedestrian. If the pedestrian was drunk/high, that will play a factor into this.

Good point. I never thought about that.

Followup...

Stallworth admits he has the dumb

moar at eleventy!!!11!

Flashing your headlights means nothing. Waving your hands means nothing. The law is unambiguous about who has the right-of-way in any situation. So stop trying to direct traffic and just drive.

Apparently they don't have these in south Florida like they do in southern CA.



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NFL star goes in the car, you go in the street. Star's car's in the street. Our NFL star.
[sings]
Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies.
Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain.
For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston.
And so nevermore shall we see you again.

Flashing your headlights means nothing. Waving your hands means nothing. The law is unambiguous about who has the right-of-way in any situation. So stop trying to direct traffic and just drive.

I think "Just Drive" was actually a mistake in this situation...wouldn't you agree?

I do think it is funny he fully admits to seeing the guy, yet still ran him over and killed him.

He flashed his headlights? Oh, well then... all is well, Mr. Stallworth. Go ahead with your mediocre NFL career. You should probably send a card or something to the family of the man you killed.

P.S.

don't stop for a car flashing their lights at you? thats a rundowning.

MattyFridays: Also in consideration will be any toxicology done on the pedestrian. If the pedestrian was drunk/high, that will play a factor into this.

Wasn't this guy just getting off work as a crane operator? I seriously doubt he was intoxicated.

/just my 2c

Taima: MattyFridays: Also in consideration will be any toxicology done on the pedestrian. If the pedestrian was drunk/high, that will play a factor into this.

Wasn't this guy just getting off work as a crane operator? I seriously doubt he was intoxicated.

/just my 2c

True but they got to cover every angle.

Lost Thought 00: NikolaiFarkoff: If you flash your headlights at a pedestrian or car, it typically means "go ahead" in the US. Or "move right" on a multi-lane highway.

Pretty much. Basically admitting this means he might be even more culpable than before, since it can be argued that it wasn't an accident, but that he knowingly ran the man down. His lawyers must either suck, or wanting to put a muzzle on him.

I don't see him coming away from this with less than 10 years in prison/probation.

He hasn't even been charged with anything. Go to wikipedia and type in Leonard Litte...........go ahead, I'll wait. No jail time for vehicular manslaughter while DUI, his second DUI in months, and he ran a red light. Also, he wasn't suspended by the NFL. Stallworth will be treated the same, because he didn't kill a dog.

prison for stallworth, but usually i try to avoid jaywalking in 6-lane highways.

Epiphany: Lost Thought 00: NikolaiFarkoff: If you flash your headlights at a pedestrian or car, it typically means "go ahead" in the US. Or "move right" on a multi-lane highway.

Pretty much. Basically admitting this means he might be even more culpable than before, since it can be argued that it wasn't an accident, but that he knowingly ran the man down. His lawyers must either suck, or wanting to put a muzzle on him.

I don't see him coming away from this with less than 10 years in prison/probation.

He hasn't even been charged with anything. Go to wikipedia and type in Leonard Litte...........go ahead, I'll wait. No jail time for vehicular manslaughter while DUI, his second DUI in months, and he ran a red light. Also, he wasn't suspended by the NFL. Stallworth will be treated the same, because he didn't kill a dog.

Errr Leonard Little, my bad.

Personally, I would have preferred less headlight flashing and more braking.

I glanced at the police drawing of the accident, and this scenario popped into my head right away:

1. The victim was in median, waiting to run across the remaining lanes to the sidewalk.
2. Stallworth sees the victim in the median and flashes his high-beams, thinking the guy will stay put and wait for traffic to pass.
3. Victim mistakes this as a friendly flash or just does not see Stallworth coming for some reason, and proceeds into the street.
4. SPLAT!

downtownkid: Sounds like someone mistimed his route.

+1

srhp29: triptrap

srhp29

Pac Man Jones has never killed anyone...to my knowledge.

While he has not been successful, he has certainly attempted to

insano: insano: downtownkid: Sounds like someone mistimed his route.

He couldn't get open. The pedestrian was all over the place.

I should have said: 'He couldn't get open. The pedestrian was all up in his grill.'

Best audible called since the end of the season!

tumba00: Here is the crash report.

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So the victim ran across 3 lanes of highway and was hit by the car driving in the 4th. He's clearly at fault.

Stallworth probably saw him in lane 2-3 and flashed his high beams to warm him that he should stay out of lane 4. More people need to realize that if you run across through traffic there is a good chance you're gonna get hit by a car.