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(Some Guy)   Hollywood is out of ideas, but this time it's cool: The Coen Brothers to remake John Wayne's "True Grit"   (joblo.com) divider line 98
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2009-03-23 04:14:07 AM
I can't wait to see this one...the original was lacking in suckness. I'm sure that this one will suck a whole bunch to make up for the original...
 
2009-03-23 04:33:40 AM
They should remake "Citizen Kane" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" too
 
2009-03-23 05:13:14 AM
Goddamn it so much.

The ad agencies used the music of my youth for commercials and I looked away.
My comic book characters became movies and I pretended I didn't care.
Freaking GI Joe became a TV series and I chuckled.
They "remade" TV shows into movies for no reason other than a cheap buck, making the originals lose their luster; and it didn't really matter that much.


But now the line has been crossed...they are taking the spirit of the one idol, the one hero, the one (to me as a kid) shining example of the American Spirit...a man who was looked up to by at least a couple of generations; a man who via film settled the wild west, fought at the Alamo, fought in 2 world wars, the Civil War, Nam, Korea; and in his final film died of cancer, mirroring how he would die soon after in real life...and "remaking" one of his legendary movies???

YOU DIRTY BASTARDS!!!

/Sorry...I get a little emotional about the Duke.
//Was my ultimate hero.
///I'm glad he's dead...so he won't have to hear of this bullshiat.
////Still have an old pencil portrait sketch of him that I got as a small kid, hanging on the wall in my office.
 
2009-03-23 06:25:38 AM
Jesse Custer will not abide this. No sir.
 
2009-03-23 06:34:12 AM
I disagree with the submitter.
 
2009-03-23 06:42:07 AM
Fill your hand, you son-of-a-biatch!
 
2009-03-23 06:43:09 AM
I'd rather they did'nt.
 
2009-03-23 06:44:12 AM
Um, settle down, people, it's not so much a remake as another movie based on the same book. I have a feeling it will be very different, so don't worry about your precious memories of the Duke.
 
2009-03-23 06:52:09 AM
havent seen it but it sounds familiar. sounds an awful lot close to:
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kidnapped girl, indians, search & rescue
 
2009-03-23 06:58:29 AM
Lionel Mandrake: Um, settle down, people, it's not so much a remake as another movie based on the same book. I have a feeling it will be very different, so don't worry about your precious memories of the Duke.

THIS. It's the farking Coen Brothers not McG or Bay. Actually fark it... I hope they cast Shia Labeouf in the lead role and Pete Wentz, in his film debut, as his buddy just to spite you all.
 
2009-03-23 07:00:14 AM
robmilmel: Goddamn it so much.

The ad agencies used the music of my youth for commercials and I looked away.
My comic book characters became movies and I pretended I didn't care.
Freaking GI Joe became a TV series and I chuckled.
They "remade" TV shows into movies for no reason other than a cheap buck, making the originals lose their luster; and it didn't really matter that much.


But now the line has been crossed...they are taking the spirit of the one idol, the one hero, the one (to me as a kid) shining example of the American Spirit...a man who was looked up to by at least a couple of generations; a man who via film settled the wild west, fought at the Alamo, fought in 2 world wars, the Civil War, Nam, Korea; and in his final film died of cancer, mirroring how he would die soon after in real life...and "remaking" one of his legendary movies???

YOU DIRTY BASTARDS!!!

/Sorry...I get a little emotional about the Duke.
//Was my ultimate hero.
///I'm glad he's dead...so he won't have to hear of this bullshiat.
////Still have an old pencil portrait sketch of him that I got as a small kid, hanging on the wall in my office.


John Wayne was gay.

/not that there is anything wrong with that..
 
2009-03-23 07:05:36 AM
Wrong.

The correct Charles Portis work that the Coens should turn into a film is "Dog of the South".
 
2009-03-23 07:19:30 AM
Actually, I never cared much for True Grit to begin with. I feel it was one of Wayne's lesser films. He won the Oscar for it because he had been passed over so many times. Kinda like Henry Fonda in On Golden Pond.
 
2009-03-23 07:39:48 AM
This is an outrage. I'll be speaking with my lawyer Daggett about this.
 
2009-03-23 07:45:11 AM
I know it ruins the meme, but this "out of ideas" thing assumes that Hollywood remaking popular movies once a generation is somehow new. Consider...

Ben Hur: Original 1907/Remake 1925
Robin Hood: 1908/1912
The Three Musketeers: 1921/1933
Spartacus: 1909/1913

...and so on. Many of these movies didn't achieve what many consider their best incarnation until the 3rd, 4th or 5th try. (Douglas Fairbanks was the 3rd Robin Hood, Errol Flynn 4th.)

None of this, of course, is any excuse for remaking movies for which once was plenty, especially when the remake loses the essential point of the original (Rollerball, Deathrace 2000, ...).
 
2009-03-23 07:45:11 AM
Errk: They should remake "Citizen Kane" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" too

Why? Those are classics and I don't recall Welles or Nicholson phoning their performances in.
 
2009-03-23 07:52:39 AM
Nabb1: Errk: They should remake "Citizen Kane" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" too

Why? Those are classics and I don't recall Welles or Nicholson phoning their performances in.


if they remade citizen kane, it would be called Citizen Came, and instead of Rosebud it would be Pinkbean, and would be her clit. And dane cook and jonah hill and seth rogan and will ferrel would all be farking her dead, 13 year old corpse while stroking a cock with "Taco Bell" written on it. and it would be #1 at the box office.

no thank you.
 
2009-03-23 08:00:27 AM
NeuroticRocker: Nabb1: Errk: They should remake "Citizen Kane" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" too

Why? Those are classics and I don't recall Welles or Nicholson phoning their performances in.

if they remade citizen kane, it would be called Citizen Came, and instead of Rosebud it would be Pinkbean, and would be her clit. And dane cook and jonah hill and seth rogan and will ferrel would all be farking her dead, 13 year old corpse while stroking a cock with "Taco Bell" written on it. and it would be #1 at the box office.

no thank you.


Hell I'd watch that.
 
2009-03-23 08:04:01 AM
As much as I want to canonize anything with John Wayne in it, True Grit was actually a much better book than it was a movie.

A faithful adaptation would seem like a perfect match for the dark humor of the Coen brothers in full-tilt western mode.

I wrote a paper in college for a "West in Literature" class on True Grit that I still swear up and down was the best paper I ever churned out.
 
2009-03-23 08:19:21 AM
mmmhmmm.

I see.

no care...next.
 
2009-03-23 08:39:56 AM
People who praise this idea need to be herded into labor camps, worked until their clothes fall off, and buried alive after they collapse from exhaustion.
 
2009-03-23 08:45:27 AM
vdantev: worked until their clothes fall off

But it's too late. I've seen everything.
 
2009-03-23 08:53:34 AM
Fill your hands, you son of a biatch

Obscure?
 
2009-03-23 08:53:52 AM
It couldn't be any worse than the original. IMO John Wayne is overrated, don't be messing with my Clint Eastwood westerns though, you hear that Bruce Willis?
 
2009-03-23 08:55:29 AM
mikemoto: Actually, I never cared much for True Grit to begin with. I feel it was one of Wayne's lesser films. He won the Oscar for it because he had been passed over so many times. Kinda like Henry Fonda in On Golden Pond.

Totally, plus he'd been battling cancer so much during the 60's that people may have thought he didn't have many movies left in him. Personally, I think he was much better in movies like Big Jake,In Harms Way, The Searchers, Hondo,Red River, The Man Who Shot Libery Valance, The Quiet Man or Rio Bravo.
 
2009-03-23 09:03:37 AM
NeuroticRocker: havent seen it but it sounds familiar. sounds an awful lot close to:
img422.imageshack.us


kidnapped girl, indians, search & rescue


Umm ... no.

Wayne plays Rooster J. Cogburn, U.S. Marshall (and main character of the vastly superior "Rooster Cogburn and the Lady"). He is hired by a young girl to chase down her father's killer. And some singer comes along for no reason other than to be annoying.
 
2009-03-23 09:07:39 AM
robmilmel: Goddamn it so much.

The ad agencies used the music of my youth for commercials and I looked away.
My comic book characters became movies and I pretended I didn't care.
Freaking GI Joe became a TV series and I chuckled.
They "remade" TV shows into movies for no reason other than a cheap buck, making the originals lose their luster; and it didn't really matter that much.


But now the line has been crossed...they are taking the spirit of the one idol, the one hero, the one (to me as a kid) shining example of the American Spirit...a man who was looked up to by at least a couple of generations; a man who via film settled the wild west, fought at the Alamo, fought in 2 world wars, the Civil War, Nam, Korea; and in his final film died of cancer, mirroring how he would die soon after in real life...and "remaking" one of his legendary movies???

YOU DIRTY BASTARDS!!!

/Sorry...I get a little emotional about the Duke.
//Was my ultimate hero.
///I'm glad he's dead...so he won't have to hear of this bullshiat.
////Still have an old pencil portrait sketch of him that I got as a small kid, hanging on the wall in my office.



The best thing about Fark is that everyone has something in common.
 
2009-03-23 09:08:58 AM
No. Just no. It is not 'cool', subby. It's a terrible, awful idea. They should be focusing on The Yiddish Policemen's Union b/c, hey guess what, it's not a frickin' remake!
 
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2009-03-23 09:09:45 AM
John Wayne was a hero to most...now the motherfarker is comatose.
 
2009-03-23 09:10:40 AM
mikemoto: Actually, I never cared much for True Grit to begin with. I feel it was one of Wayne's lesser films. He won the Oscar for it because he had been passed over so many times. Kinda like Henry Fonda in On Golden Pond.

This. They farked him over, he should have won for The Searchers.
 
2009-03-23 09:12:36 AM
I never cared much for "The PDuke," so the idea sounds OK to me.
 
2009-03-23 09:12:50 AM
Wingnutwillie: IMO John Wayne is overrated, don't be messing with my Clint Eastwood westerns though

I'm with you on this one. There are two families of Westerns: mainstream and deconstructed. Mainstream Westerns gave us John Wayne and his imitators. The rugged white hatted hero style Western.

Ugh. Hate 'em. The Deconstructed Westerns focus more on moral conflicts and tend to use anti-heroes. I love the Leone Westerns and Eastwood's other work.

Sticking a little more to Wayne's time period, I think High Noon is not only one of the greatest Westerns in history, but one of the greatest films.

Wayne's best work was The Conqueror, if for no other reason than hearing him drawl Temujin's lines is downright hysterical.

While I'm no fan, it's sad that The Conqueror basically killed him.
 
2009-03-23 09:30:54 AM
bikkurikun: robmilmel: Goddamn it so much.

The ad agencies used the music of my youth for commercials and I looked away.
My comic book characters became movies and I pretended I didn't care.
Freaking GI Joe became a TV series and I chuckled.
They "remade" TV shows into movies for no reason other than a cheap buck, making the originals lose their luster; and it didn't really matter that much.


But now the line has been crossed...they are taking the spirit of the one idol, the one hero, the one (to me as a kid) shining example of the American Spirit...a man who was looked up to by at least a couple of generations; a man who via film settled the wild west, fought at the Alamo, fought in 2 world wars, the Civil War, Nam, Korea; and in his final film died of cancer, mirroring how he would die soon after in real life...and "remaking" one of his legendary movies???

YOU DIRTY BASTARDS!!!

/Sorry...I get a little emotional about the Duke.
//Was my ultimate hero.
///I'm glad he's dead...so he won't have to hear of this bullshiat.
////Still have an old pencil portrait sketch of him that I got as a small kid, hanging on the wall in my office.

John Wayne was gay.

/not that there is anything wrong with that..


He just liked wearing women's girdles.
 
2009-03-23 09:34:29 AM
robmilmel: ...and in his final film died of cancer...

Pet peeve: John Wayne's character does not die of cancer in The Shootist. He's dying of cancer, but goes down shooting in one last gunfight.
 
2009-03-23 09:40:02 AM
McManus_brothers: He's dying of cancer, but goes down shooting in one last gunfight.

And, like most of their careers, Eastwood does it better.
 
2009-03-23 09:44:50 AM
t3knomanser:
I'm with you on this one. There are two families of Westerns: mainstream and deconstructed. Mainstream Westerns gave us John Wayne and his imitators. The rugged white hatted hero style Western.


I disagree with your view of John Wayne Movies being a simple "Mainstream" popcorn movies. And for "Mainstream" Westerns being morally simplistic as well.
For example, you have John Wayne in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance," and a whole host of other John Ford Movies. Other films like Shane, The Virginian and the Ox Bow Incident also dealt with morally complex issues.
 
2009-03-23 09:52:28 AM
Would anyone here like some gopher?
 
2009-03-23 09:56:18 AM
t3knomanser: Wingnutwillie: IMO John Wayne is overrated, don't be messing with my Clint Eastwood westerns though

I'm with you on this one. There are two families of Westerns: mainstream and deconstructed. Mainstream Westerns gave us John Wayne and his imitators. The rugged white hatted hero style Western.

Ugh. Hate 'em. The Deconstructed Westerns focus more on moral conflicts and tend to use anti-heroes. I love the Leone Westerns and Eastwood's other work.

Sticking a little more to Wayne's time period, I think High Noon is not only one of the greatest Westerns in history, but one of the greatest films.

Wayne's best work was The Conqueror, if for no other reason than hearing him drawl Temujin's lines is downright hysterical.

While I'm no fan, it's sad that The Conqueror basically killed him.


John Wayne was in quite a few movies that weren't westerns, perhaps that should be considered, and John Wayne was far from a white hat good guy in all his movies as well. You'd do yourself a favor by picking up some of his lesser known movies.
 
2009-03-23 09:58:58 AM
bikkurikun:

John Wayne was gay.




THE HELL HE WAS!
 
2009-03-23 10:02:33 AM
Eh, the Coen Bros make too much good original shiat to resort to remakes.
 
2009-03-23 10:04:25 AM
PumpUpDaFark: Would anyone here like some gopher?

No thanks, PumpUpDaFark. A third of a gopher would just arouse my appetite without beddin' her back down properly.
 
2009-03-23 10:05:37 AM
Who will they cast as the ailing icon who gets an undeserved Best Actor Oscar?
 
2009-03-23 10:06:41 AM
Komplex: morally complex issues

I'm oversimplifying because this is a fark comment. And I never used the term "popcorn" movie. Mainstream is utterly unrelated to whether or not something is a popcorn movie.

John Wayne did a few revisionist westerns, mostly without his knowledge. Shane and The Searchers fall into that category.

But by and large, his work fell squarely into the mainstream of Westerns (because, let's be honest: John Wayne defined the genre). That mainstream focused on the rugged, independent, and morally upright hero and featured a very 1950s vision of masculine behavior.

Your typical revisionist/deconstructed western usually renders the protagonist as morally ambiguous or even reprehensible- in High Plains Drifter the protagonist is introduced by having him rape a woman.
 
2009-03-23 10:11:10 AM
FTA--The brothers have already stated that they will be more faithful to the Charles Portis book than the 1969 film, which scored Wayne an Oscar for best actor.

Odd. There's very little difference betweeen the 2 in the main body of the story. The endings deviate somewhat, although not enough to call for a remake of the movie.
 
2009-03-23 10:15:43 AM
MarshHawk: This is an outrage. I'll be speaking with my lawyer Daggett about this.

Make sure he writes up a writ for the rat.

True Grit was one of the 1st dvds I ever bought. Actually just read the book a couple months ago.
 
2009-03-23 10:16:42 AM
Guess I'll Godwin (pops) this thread in early-80s punk style...
 
2009-03-23 10:18:25 AM
t3knomanser: But by and large, his work fell squarely into the mainstream of Westerns (because, let's be honest: John Wayne defined the genre). That mainstream focused on the rugged, independent, and morally upright hero and featured a very 1950s vision of masculine behavior.

There was a big difference between Wayne's latter roles and those played by Gene Autry or Roy Rogers. The movies I enjoy the most are those were Wayne plays an older fatter hero with serious character flaws. Sure, he didn't rape anyone, but his movies were more about fun entertainment. Eastwood was kind of an "emo" version of a cowboy.
 
2009-03-23 10:21:13 AM
I'm happy for anything written by Charles Portis being brought to the screen, but I don't know about this.
 
2009-03-23 10:23:32 AM
senorpogo: Wrong.

The correct Charles Portis work that the Coens should turn into a film is "Dog of the South".


I've never seen or read "True Grit," but I do think that "Dog of the South" could be turned into a great Coen brothers movie. The casting would have the potential to be great. I'd love to see who would play Dupree, the main character's wife's ex-wife. That guy is so sleazy. The con-artist doctor, also.

Anyone who has not read this book should. One of the funniest books I've read. I don't think I'm breaking any copyright laws by posting the following from the book, from the pov of the self-centered history-loving protagonist:

"I had enormous respect for General Washington, as who doesn't, but I also liked the man, believing as I did that we shared many of the same qualities. Perhaps I should say 'some of the same qualities' because in many ways we were not at all alike. He, after all, had read only two books on warfare, Bland's Exercises and Sim's Military Guide, and I had read a thousand. And of course he was a big man while I am compact of build.'
 
2009-03-23 10:24:08 AM
bigwave: Fill your hand, you son-of-a-biatch!

One of the best movie lines ever.
 
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