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2009-03-19 09:03:46 AM  
As sports go this was one of the worst moments of my life. I read a year later that Wakefield thought he was going to forever be aligned with Buckner.
 
2009-03-19 10:00:58 AM  

TeddyBallGame: As sports go this was one of the worst moments of my life. I read a year later that Wakefield thought he was going to forever be aligned with Buckner.


I think Grady Little would have taken his place, really. People cheered Wakefield through 2004, and Little was immediately fired.

And then Boone broke himself playing basketball, which brought A-Rod. So it alllll worked out.
 
2009-03-19 10:48:01 AM  
As long as we never lose 4 games in a row to the Yanks in the playoffs.. and lose that last game at home, I'm good for the rest of my life.

i can't imagine being a die hard baseball fan and never getting to see my team win it all.
Oh, hello there Cubs fans! (hugs)
 
2009-03-19 10:49:24 AM  

HulkHands: And then Boone broke himself playing basketball, which brought A-Rod. So it alllll worked out.


I knew there was a reason you've been on my favorites for two years. Welcome back to baseball season Hulk. Jaylectricity should be here soon as well.
 
2009-03-19 10:57:06 AM  
You know, even after two championships, I still get angry about Aaron farking Boone.

/Too young for Bucky farking Dent.
 
2009-03-19 11:12:41 AM  
So now the Astros' third-base situation went from "shamefully bad" to "soul-crushingly awful."

/oh God, if you're up there, please make Chris Johnson good. I don't ask for much, Lord. Just let him hit a few home runs, get on base more than 30% of the time. He doesn't have to be great, oh Lord, just league-average. Deliver us from Geoff Blum, Jesus.
 
2009-03-19 11:13:53 AM  
I'm over it.
 
2009-03-19 11:16:43 AM  

Only_A_Lad: Deliver us from Geoff Blum, Jesus.


Well, this thread is over.
 
2009-03-19 11:27:40 AM  
Really, Boone wasn't the culprit. But for Grady, chances are the Sox win that game. If anyone tore out the collective hearts of Red Sox fans, it was the manager.
 
2009-03-19 11:35:54 AM  

TeddyBallGame: I read a year later that Wakefield thought he was going to forever be aligned with Buckner.


Yeah, Wakefield's standing ovation at opening day 2004 was one of the nicest things I've ever witnesses. Sure, Sox fans are obsessive assholes, but we knew who to blame.

/shut up, Aaron Boone.
 
2009-03-19 11:43:10 AM  
I still have just the box score from that game pinned up in my office. Greatest baseball game I ever saw.
 
2009-03-19 11:49:13 AM  
As a Pirates fan, I would like to take this opportunity to invite Francisco Cabrera to go fark himself.
 
2009-03-19 11:50:32 AM  

what_now: Yeah, Wakefield's standing ovation at opening day 2004 was one of the nicest things I've ever witnesses. Sure, Sox fans are obsessive assholes, but we knew who to blame.

/shut up, Aaron Boone.


mmm. then why does Buckner still got killed when you still had an opportunity to win Game 7, or Stanley's wild pitch that blew the save?

McNamara should have had a defensive replacement in for Buckner.
 
2009-03-19 11:52:35 AM  
sorry subby, with two WS in the bank that just doesn't have the sting anymore.

/wait till we spend $200 mil+ and keep losing...that might sting a bit.
 
2009-03-19 11:55:53 AM  

lunchinlewis: I still have just the box score from that game pinned up in my office. Greatest baseball game I ever saw.


QFT. Charlie Steiner's radio call on WCBS is still one of my favorite baseball moments ever.

Funny story - I was listening to that game in the dark in my girlfriend's one-BR (less than 500 SQ ft.) apartment. When Boone hit the HR, I bit my tongue because I didn't want to start cheerign and wake her up (she was asleep at the time - had been sick and thought they were going to lose. She was still a relatively new baseball fan.)

I knew at that moment two things -

1) This was one of my best baseball moments of all time

2) I really loved my girlfriend.

I ended up marrying her 3 years later.

She now wears my ring - and my Posada jersey.
 
2009-03-19 12:07:25 PM  

what_now: Yeah, Wakefield's standing ovation at opening day 2004 was one of the nicest things I've ever witnesses.


i almost preferred the fruitbat's standing ovation on opening day 2005-- spontaneous, borderline evil, and hilarious. when i feel down, i watch that ring ceremony and it always puts a hop in my step and a grin on my face.

that said, aaron f**king boone (and grady little-- why did you leave pedro in? WHY??) were responsible for possibly the worst boston winter i can remember. it was like the whole city was living in a country song. i'm fairly certain that afb's heart condition is the result of the combined, focused ill-will of virtually every red sox fan over a five-month period that offseason. we did this to him. we did this.
 
2009-03-19 12:08:48 PM  

MattyFridays: mmm. then why does Buckner still got killed when you still had an opportunity to win Game 7, or Stanley's wild pitch that blew the save?

McNamara should have had a defensive replacement in for Buckner.


This. I never understood the hate on Buckner. The game was blown before that.
 
2009-03-19 12:26:42 PM  
The jubilation of that moment has made everything after it hurt even more than it should.
 
2009-03-19 12:27:37 PM  
Astros' Aaron Boone to have open heart surgery. Procedure said to be similar to when he tore the hearts out of Boston in 2003
So he'll be fine next year, then?
 
2009-03-19 12:28:44 PM  

peachpicker: As a Pirates fan, I would like to take this opportunity to invite Francisco Cabrera to go fark himself.


As a Braves fan, I would like to invite Stan Belinda over for a few beers.
 
2009-03-19 12:30:22 PM  
WinoRhino
MattyFridays: mmm. then why does Buckner still got killed when you still had an opportunity to win Game 7, or Stanley's wild pitch that blew the save?

McNamara should have had a defensive replacement in for Buckner.

This. I never understood the hate on Buckner. The game was blown before that.


No, the game was not blown before that, the game wasn't even blown at that point. The reason Buckner shouldn't get any blame is because the Red Sox had several opportunities to put that game away afterwards, and then a whole other game to win as well.
 
2009-03-19 12:41:25 PM  
Stanley's wild pitch that blew the save?

Watch the replays, that was a passed ball. Since Stanley was never liked by the Boston press, nor the fans, they've always included him with the Buckner hate. Rich Gedman was lazy on that pitch and that's why it went to the backstop... PLUS the reason Buckner booted that grounder is because he KNEW fat arse Stanley wasn't going to get to the bag in time, so he'd have to gimp leg it to the bag to beat the runner.

McNamara blew that game by not inserting Dave Stapleton for defensive purposes and riding Calvin Schiraldi for two batters too many.
 
2009-03-19 12:49:06 PM  
Christ in a flaming sidecar, did you people NOT win the World Series in 2004 and 2007? What is your fascination with the near-miss?

You lost an ALCS, and then kicked the shiat out of my team 11 months later in 2004. My team turned around and then won it all in 2006. You don't see me losing my mind thinking about the horrendous asskicking you dealt us in 2004. Instead, I think back to that wonderful night in 2006 when Adam Wainright's pitch hit the glove for the final out.
 
2009-03-19 01:20:46 PM  
No, the game was not blown before that, the game wasn't even blown at that point. The reason Buckner shouldn't get any blame is because the Red Sox had several opportunities to put that game away afterwards

My mind is playing tricks on me? Wasn't the Buckner play the last play of the game? The fact that the game was tied when he made that error should make any Boston fan who cursed him ashamed and they aren't a real fan either. Blaming one guy in a TIE f'ing game after the pitching had blown the two run lead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-GgbP9C9Zk
 
2009-03-19 01:26:50 PM  

mofomisfit:

No, the game was not blown before that, the game wasn't even blown at that point. The reason Buckner shouldn't get any blame is because the Red Sox had several opportunities to put that game away afterwards, and then a whole other game to win as well.


Wait, what?

Buckner's play is the last play of Game 6. Mets were the home team.

Even if Buckner makes the play, you're going into another inning. One run scored on the play, not two. Stanley allowed the game to get tied up.

That being said, someone brought up an interesting point. Mookie was probably the fastest player on the field in that sequence. Even if Buckner fields the ball, he may have not made the play.
 
2009-03-19 01:35:21 PM  
For me, the Buckner play was far worse. I still can't watch it. I was happy to finally see him come back to Fenway and I don't blame him the way I used to, but I still can't bear to watch that.

The Boone thing, while I hated every minute of it, didn't crush me nearly the way the Buckner thing did.
 
2009-03-19 01:53:46 PM  
Enough with the Sawks circle jerk! You won a couple. Get over yourselves. Now you are just another team of many who have nowhere near as many rings as the Yankees (sorry, couldn't resist the dig).

Hope Aaron Boon pulls out ok. He seemed like a good guy for the half season I watched him, and that HR was awesome (for Yankee fans, anyway). I would not be too excited about having my chest sawed open.
 
2009-03-19 02:32:55 PM  
So I take it Aaron didn't use the Roids like his brother? I mean, it would be pretty stupid with a pre existing heart condition, right?
 
2009-03-19 02:35:25 PM  
Aaron F*cking Boone.
That said, I'm over that, I'm also over Buckner, and I think most people are, too. He did get a standing O when he came back last season to throw out a first pitch.
 
2009-03-19 02:43:49 PM  

Only_A_Lad: So now the Astros' third-base situation went from "shamefully bad" to "soul-crushingly awful."

/oh God, if you're up there, please make Chris Johnson good. I don't ask for much, Lord. Just let him hit a few home runs, get on base more than 30% of the time. He doesn't have to be great, oh Lord, just league-average. Deliver us from Geoff Blum, Jesus.


This came up in the Pudge thread the other day, because I didn't realize that the Astros traded Wigginton, who is actually an acceptable 3B.

How did the Astros let this happen? Johnson's a decent prospect and all, but he was in AA last season, and now they're relying on him plus Geoff Blum?
 
2009-03-19 02:46:35 PM  

Grunt2006: McNamara blew that game by not inserting Dave Stapleton for defensive purposes and riding Calvin Schiraldi for two batters too many.


I believe McNamara went on record at some point as saying that the reason Buckner (and his knees) were still on the field is because McNamara wanted him to be on the field when they won, as a thanks for his role in helping the team get there.

Hopefully, he was fired the second he completed that sentence.
 
2009-03-19 02:48:20 PM  

TeddyBallGame: I knew there was a reason you've been on my favorites for two years. Welcome back to baseball season Hulk. Jaylectricity should be here soon as well.


I'm so very ready. Fark this CT March weather.
 
2009-03-19 02:50:31 PM  
If i'm remembering right Buckner shouldn't have even been playing that night. Wasn't he injured?


My Dad had the exact surgery that Boone is gonna have, docs said if he had waited even a week longer he probably would have died. Very scary time.
Will pray for a complete recovery and hopefully he can get back to doing what he loves.
 
2009-03-19 03:19:25 PM  

stayclassy: If i'm remembering right Buckner shouldn't have even been playing that night. Wasn't he injured?


Not so much injured as worn out. He had been playing through knee pain for a while, and his mobility was reduced to a shadow of its old self.

Of their 1B that year, Buckner wasn't even a league-average hitter that year (which is terrible for a 1B), but Don Baylor was even worse as a defender, and Dave Stapleton flat-out couldn't hit (*). Buckner was gutting it out for a team that just didn't have much depth there.

The usual plan would be: Baylor at DH, Buckner at 1B, Stapleton available for late-game defense replacement.

Next year, they smartened up, moved (the incredibly underrated but clearly aging) Dwight Evans to 1B, and brought up Mike Greenwell to help out at corner outfield. The '87 Sox had a fantastic offense for the era (despite no detectable catcher), and if they had a pitcher not named Roger Clemens, they'd have been dangerous.
 
2009-03-19 03:30:23 PM  

HulkHands: Fark this CT NJ March weather.

 
2009-03-19 03:38:39 PM  

chimp_ninja: Only_A_Lad: So now the Astros' third-base situation went from "shamefully bad" to "soul-crushingly awful."

/oh God, if you're up there, please make Chris Johnson good. I don't ask for much, Lord. Just let him hit a few home runs, get on base more than 30% of the time. He doesn't have to be great, oh Lord, just league-average. Deliver us from Geoff Blum, Jesus.

This came up in the Pudge thread the other day, because I didn't realize that the Astros traded Wigginton, who is actually an acceptable 3B.

How did the Astros let this happen? Johnson's a decent prospect and all, but he was in AA last season, and now they're relying on him plus Geoff Blum?


Essentially, the Astros were really surprised by Wigginton's last-minute surge. Cooper had often benched Wiggy in favor of Mark Loretta and Geoff Blum throughout the season (despite the fact that Wigginton was clearly the superior hitter. He had - for the first time in his career - discovered some plate discipline and had the 3rd highest OBP on the team before the all-star break. He probably should have been hitting leadoff, as hilarious as that would have been). So when Carlos Lee went down in August with that broken pinkie and Wigginton went into LF and exploded throughout the month, it was something of a mixed blessing. On the one hand, he essentially carried the team into the wild card race. On the other, his price in arbitration was likely to skyrocket and the Astros weren't willing to spend too much money in the offseason.

It just came down to money. I think Ed Wade felt that an arbitrator would put too high a price on Wigginton, thanks to his good season, but that he was unlikely to justify such a salary in 2009. It's probably the same thing that led to him not offering arbitration to anybody else (as a side note, the Astros didn't trade Wigginton, as you said, but simply non-tendered him).

I doubt Blum would have been brought back for 2009, but he had (thanks to Cooper's habit of playing him instead of Wigginton) accumulated enough PA's to activate a clause in his contract that guaranteed a salary in 2009.

So Wigginton had played himself out of employment, Blum was going to get paid regardless, and Chris Johnson was an alright prospect who looked great in the Astros barren system, but couldn't be expected to do much. Boone was brought in because Blum can't hit lefties anymore and because Wade has a hard-on for veterans.

Meanwhile, a decade of owning one of the most successful franchises (in the regular season, at least) in baseball has made Drayton McLane unwilling to give up on a season. In many ways, it's an admirable quality, but it also means that whoever is GM has to load up with whatever washed-up veterans are willing to sign for relatively cheap and make an all-or-nothing attempt at making the playoffs. So Ed Wade can't simply bring up what little talent the Astros have in AA and AAA and try to save money and develop prospects - he's got to cater to Drayton's wishes.

Fortunately, it looks like Johnson might just make the team coming out of Spring Training. While it's terrible that Boone has to have surgery and that his career might be over, the Astros may have lucked into something here. I'm not too high on Johnson's abilities, but I'd rather see a 24-year-old strike out than Geoff Blum do the same.
 
2009-03-19 05:41:49 PM  
I still think Grady Little should've been tarred, feathered, then chased out of Boston by a torch-wielding mob.
 
2009-03-19 05:56:42 PM  

Chastain86: Christ in a flaming sidecar, did you people NOT win the World Series in 2004 and 2007? What is your fascination with the near-miss?

You lost an ALCS, and then kicked the shiat out of my team 11 months later in 2004. My team turned around and then won it all in 2006. You don't see me losing my mind thinking about the horrendous asskicking you dealt us in 2004. Instead, I think back to that wonderful night in 2006 when Adam Wainright's pitch hit the glove for the final out.


Your kind of missing the point. Most of us talk about how we felt after the Boone HR, not about how we still feel. It was one of the most depressing winters I've ever been through and while I feel 1000x better now, it doesn't change how awful that winter was.

Well, that and I still want to toss Grady Little off the top of the Monster.

/03 team was better than 04.
//But 04 was magical.
///Dave Roberts FTW!
 
2009-03-19 05:59:29 PM  

jlevine: Well, that and I still want to toss Grady Little off the top of the Monster.


Agreed, as long as you can toss him far enough to land him on the Mass. Pike. :)
 
2009-03-19 05:59:50 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: As long as we never lose 4 games in a row to the Yanks in the playoffs.. and lose that last game at home, I'm good for the rest of my life.


So that 5-game sweep at Fenway in '06 didn't mean anything then? You know, the one that basically shattered any hopes of you guys making the playoffs.

At this rate it will still take you guys 300-someodd years to catch up to us. And that's if we never win again.

I love having seen more World Series victories in my a six year span of my life than the average Boston fan (for all I know there's some 120-year old farker who's been there for the whopping 7 you have won) has seen in his lifetime.

/Even more satisfied by the fact that theoretical 120-year-old previously mentioned has seen the Yankees win 26 times.

//Make that 27 if he makes it to the end of this season.
 
2009-03-19 06:06:46 PM  

JAVSinCity: /Even more satisfied by the fact that theoretical 120-year-old previously mentioned has seen the Yankees win 26 times.

//Make that 27 if he makes it to the end of this season.


LOL, you must be new here. Welcome to Fark baseball season and you'd better hope your team doesn't finish behind the Sawx. You end up having to choke on it like a Mets fan for MONTHS! Now would be a good time for someone to post the '04 ALCS or '04 WS threads. Farking epic.

/Go Sox! Not those pussy white ones either.
 
2009-03-19 06:09:22 PM  

JAVSinCity: Dr.Knockboots: As long as we never lose 4 games in a row to the Yanks in the playoffs.. and lose that last game at home, I'm good for the rest of my life.

So that 5-game sweep at Fenway in '06 didn't mean anything then? You know, the one that basically shattered any hopes of you guys making the playoffs.

At this rate it will still take you guys 300-someodd years to catch up to us. And that's if we never win again.

I love having seen more World Series victories in my a six year span of my life than the average Boston fan (for all I know there's some 120-year old farker who's been there for the whopping 7 you have won) has seen in his lifetime.

/Even more satisfied by the fact that theoretical 120-year-old previously mentioned has seen the Yankees win 26 times.

//Make that 27 if he makes it to the end of this season.


Five game regular season sweeps happen decently often. How many times has a team blown a 3 games to 0 lead in MLB playoffs? That's right. Once.

It's true that the Sox only have one twice since the 1918 championship. However, wasn't the refrain from Yankees fans "Just win one and then will talk," and "1918" for years. Then the Sox won one and it became "Now win another." They did that and now Yankees fans run to the 27 championships.

Why not win one in this millennium? There are a lot of 9 year old Yankees fans wondering if their favorite team will even win one championship in their lifetime.

/Year 2000! Year 2000! Year 2000!
 
2009-03-19 06:11:03 PM  

jlevine: only


won

/sorry, pet peeve
//Quoting your own post FTW!
 
2009-03-19 06:11:45 PM  

jlevine: jlevine: only

won

/sorry, pet peeve
//Quoting your own post FTW!


Just... I give up...
 
2009-03-19 06:30:30 PM  

JAVSinCity: So that 5-game sweep at Fenway in '06 didn't mean anything then? You know, the one that basically shattered any hopes of you guys making the playoffs.


You mean the 5-game sweep that meant we* didn't make the playoffs, where we would've just lost in the first round anyway like you guys did, and then we won it all the next year? No, that really didn't mean anything. Nobody cares. References to "Boston Massacre II" are about as meaningful as "16-0."

But by all means keep clinging to your 26, most of which were from before color TV.


___________________________________
*"We" used for convenience
 
2009-03-19 06:52:49 PM  

jlevine:

/Year 2000! Year 2000! Year 2000!


Wow, you sounded like an Islanders fan there for a second.

2000 is in this millennium. Then again, why would I expect a Sox fan to know anything?

OB/GYN, you really don't think the Sox could have beaten the Twinkies or Oakland the first round that year? Way to have faith in your team there. I was also using "we" for convenience. Since I'm not a Red Sox fan, I didn't feel the need to explain that. But since you felt the need to explain it in your post, I figured I should clear that one up for you.
 
2009-03-19 07:35:52 PM  
He was responsible for one of the most memorable moments in my TV sports viewing history, I hope he makes it through this ok.
 
2009-03-19 09:17:47 PM  
Hey Sox fans, anyone wanna help kick in for a baseball season's worth of TF for JAVSinCity? He'll have a great time talking to us until the Yanks are out of it on September 5th.

Now JAV, settle down a little. It's a long year of disappointment for you and you'll need to pace yourself.
 
2009-03-19 09:49:33 PM  

JAVSinCity: jlevine:

/Year 2000! Year 2000! Year 2000!

Wow, you sounded like an Islanders fan there for a second.

2000 is in this millennium. Then again, why would I expect a Sox fan to know anything?

OB/GYN, you really don't think the Sox could have beaten the Twinkies or Oakland the first round that year? Way to have faith in your team there. I was also using "we" for convenience. Since I'm not a Red Sox fan, I didn't feel the need to explain that. But since you felt the need to explain it in your post, I figured I should clear that one up for you.


Actually, 2000 is not in this millennium.
 
2009-03-19 11:34:00 PM  

mjoven1975: JAVSinCity: jlevine:

/Year 2000! Year 2000! Year 2000!

Wow, you sounded like an Islanders fan there for a second.

2000 is in this millennium. Then again, why would I expect a Sox fan to know anything?

OB/GYN, you really don't think the Sox could have beaten the Twinkies or Oakland the first round that year? Way to have faith in your team there. I was also using "we" for convenience. Since I'm not a Red Sox fan, I didn't feel the need to explain that. But since you felt the need to explain it in your post, I figured I should clear that one up for you.

Actually, 2000 is not in this millennium.


He probably also believes A-Rod is clutch.
 
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