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(Seattle Times)   Washington gambling officials would like to remind you that all those NCAA betting pools in your office are illegal. Also wants to remind you there are 20 casinos located throughout the state open and ready for your business   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 67
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2009-03-18 09:06:39 PM
OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law? I understand the need/ desire to regulate gambling, but an office pool for the NCAA BB tourny is just too much!

/These asshats will be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.
//Or maybe the DMV.
 
2009-03-18 09:07:38 PM
Interesting implication, subby, but it'd be a bit more valid if Washington's tribal casinos paid a dime to the state in taxes.
 
2009-03-18 10:52:56 PM
Do casinos in Washington have sports betting?
 
2009-03-18 11:15:00 PM
How in the world is this even worth anybodies time?
 
2009-03-18 11:15:06 PM
strangeguitar: Do casinos in Washington have sports betting?

No. Sports betting is only legal in Nevada.
 
2009-03-18 11:16:13 PM
buckeyebrain: No. Sports betting is only legal in Nevada.

What about the horse racing in New Jersey?
 
2009-03-18 11:16:20 PM
I'm getting a kick out of these replies because there is one of these going around my work right now. I declined to participate.

/Not a BB fan
 
2009-03-18 11:16:24 PM
One thing that pisses me off about Washington is that online poker is illegal. They want you to go to the casinos for that. Problem is, I can't throw down 5 bucks and play for several hours at the casino.
 
2009-03-18 11:17:07 PM
fritton: How in the world is this even worth anybodies time?

Talking about this is easier than taking care of important things.
 
2009-03-18 11:18:01 PM
Trajan's Call'Em : OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law? I understand the need/ desire to regulate gambling, but an office pool for the NCAA BB tourny is just too much!

Until that office pool has 50 people in it. And they're not paying taxes on their earnings, are they?
 
2009-03-18 11:19:13 PM
lordargent: Trajan's Call'Em : OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law? I understand the need/ desire to regulate gambling, but an office pool for the NCAA BB tourny is just too much!

Until that office pool has 50 people in it. And they're not paying taxes on their earnings, are they?


yes
 
2009-03-18 11:19:19 PM
DarkSoulNoHope: buckeyebrain: No. Sports betting is only legal in Nevada.

What about the horse racing in New Jersey?


"Professional sports" betting.
 
2009-03-18 11:19:31 PM
img1.fark.net tag get paid to take a dive, Subby?
 
2009-03-18 11:28:42 PM
Don't steal.

The government hates competition.

/Not a sports fan
//Only play the slots
///Free screwdrivers rule
 
2009-03-18 11:31:23 PM
our lovely state also expects you to fill out a form and pay the outrageous taxes you miss when buying liquor out of state...

/always do
 
2009-03-18 11:31:58 PM
Slow Not News day is slow.
 
2009-03-18 11:36:44 PM
juansmith but it'd be a bit more valid if Washington's tribal casinos paid a dime to the state in taxes.

Washington has non-tribal casinos. Actually they are card rooms, no slot machines or video poker. I've won a few hundred bucks at the La Center casinos.
 
2009-03-18 11:40:39 PM
DarkSoulNoHope: buckeyebrain: No. Sports betting is only legal in Nevada.

What about the horse racing in New Jersey?


Sports Betting and Horse Race Betting are different animals (no pun intended) in the eyes of the laws of 49 states (well, not 49, but the several states that have legalized gambling on horse racing, lotteries, poker and whatnot).
 
2009-03-18 11:42:01 PM
FTFA: Hunter said the only legal sports-betting pools are 100-square grids, commonly used in football pools, with entrants paying $1 or less.

So just make a bunch of BINGO style cards, one for each regional from the sweet 16 on up. So that's what, 8 $1 cards or so? Hey, they didn't say one couldn't........
 
2009-03-18 11:44:15 PM
Whatthefark: juansmith but it'd be a bit more valid if Washington's tribal casinos paid a dime to the state in taxes.

Washington has non-tribal casinos. Actually they are card rooms, no slot machines or video poker. I've won a few hundred bucks at the La Center casinos.


When did that law change? Of the half dozen or so I've been in, they were on tribal property and they all had video slots and poker.
 
2009-03-18 11:45:20 PM
Trajan's Call'Em: OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law? I understand the need/ desire to regulate gambling, but an office pool for the NCAA BB tourny is just too much!

/These asshats will be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.
//Or maybe the DMV.


There is not, and will never be a revolution. I realize you may have been joking, but I've seen people somewhat serious about this idea on Fark. Just something to remove from the back of your mind.
 
2009-03-18 11:47:48 PM
Trajan's Call'Em: OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law?

Whenever there are licenses to be bought and taxes to be paid, you can rest assured anyone not paying their government bribes will be breaking the law.
 
2009-03-18 11:52:26 PM
I lost faith in her decision making abilities after the first line about her love of collecting glass figurines. Too bad that isn't a typical loan officer's question. I would bet that the ratio of figurine collectors to mortgage defaulters is 1/1.
 
2009-03-18 11:53:25 PM
Mr_Master2:

There is not, and will never be a revolution. I realize you may have been joking, but I've seen people somewhat serious about this idea on Fark. Just something to remove from the back of your mind.


Really? If history has shown us anything it's that there will always be another revolution. It might not be tomorrow or in the next ten years but eventually there will be revolution. You can't keep people down forever.
 
2009-03-18 11:58:06 PM
I thought that "friendly" pools ((where all of the money that goes in, comes out to the winner(s)) were legal. You just couldn't "charge" for having a pool.
 
2009-03-19 12:02:00 AM
It's only illegal if you get caught.
 
2009-03-19 12:02:46 AM
 
2009-03-19 12:05:02 AM
Trajan's Call'Em: OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law? I understand the need/ desire to regulate gambling, but an office pool for the NCAA BB tourny is just too much!

/These asshats will be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.
//Or maybe the DMV.


Why should gambling be regulated other than making sure everything works according to posted rules?

/Christian holdover- blue law
 
2009-03-19 12:07:40 AM
Lamune_Baba: Trajan's Call'Em: OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law?

Whenever there are licenses to be bought and taxes to be paid, you can rest assured anyone not paying their government bribes will be breaking the law.


This=True
 
2009-03-19 12:08:17 AM
DarkSoulNoHope: buckeyebrain: No. Sports betting is only legal in Nevada.

What about the horse racing in New Jersey?


Real sports.
 
2009-03-19 12:10:13 AM
But if you win big at those casinos they'll say the machine malfunctioned and offer you a couple of buffet tickets.
 
2009-03-19 12:11:30 AM
I think that pool betting is better socially than casino gambling which is related to many real societal problems. With pool betting, no one is skimming a profit, none of the money is going to the mafia and it seems doubtful that people are getting seriously in debt with gambling problems.
 
2009-03-19 12:20:57 AM
I hate living here. Washington state was one that was instrumental in getting online gambling taken away, you know, because it hurts families.
 
2009-03-19 12:35:43 AM
DarkSoulNoHope: buckeyebrain: No. Sports betting is only legal in Nevada.

What about the horse racing in New Jersey?


Since when is horse racing a sport? It only exists to give people something to gamble on.
 
2009-03-19 12:49:49 AM
And because they are not listed as legal, they are illegal, Hunter said.


This line really bothers me. It's only legal if the legislators specifically say it's legal?
 
2009-03-19 12:50:52 AM
My work has plenty of these going around. Best part is that half of the money in each pool goes toward some charity or another. I would love to see the cops bust one of these. I could see the outrage now.
 
2009-03-19 01:04:22 AM
And because they are not listed as legal, they are illegal, Hunter said.

That's one slippery slope there, dude.
 
2009-03-19 01:07:50 AM
I dunno, I have a problem with "we didn't specifically say this is legal, so it is therefore illegal."
 
2009-03-19 01:08:12 AM
Trajan's Call'Em:
/These asshats will be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.
//Or maybe the DMV.


Twenty years ago I would have been all for a revolution just for the opportunity to shoot those DMV bastards. However, I must say they must be the most improved government agency ever (at least here in Kalifornia). Their website is useful, functional, and relatively easy to use. You can do most any of your transactions online. On the rare case where I needed to go to an office the people there were actually efficient and courteous.

I'm scared. I'm fairly sure this is a sign of the apocalypse.
 
2009-03-19 01:08:58 AM
cedarpark: And because they are not listed as legal, they are illegal, Hunter said.

That's one slippery slope there, dude.


What isn't obligatory is illegal.
 
2009-03-19 01:13:12 AM
ShamWowofDamocles: This guy knows all about illegal betting pools in Washington (POPS)

Beat me to it.

/4-8
 
2009-03-19 01:19:59 AM
hlehmann: Since when is horse racing a sport? It only exists to give people something to gamble on.

They are somehow calling Poker a sport and it's being shown on ESPN. I would think a midget trying to keep himself on top of a fast, bucking animal at high speeds is more physically enduring than poker.
 
2009-03-19 01:20:10 AM
I think there is more than 20 in the state.
Even if you only count the indian ones and not the card rooms

7 Cedars Casino
Angel of the Winds Casino
Chewelah Casino
Coulee Dam Casino
Emerald Queen Casino at I-5
Emerald Queen Hotel & Casino - Fife
Little Creek Casino Resort
Lucky Dog Casino
Lucky Eagle Casino
Mill Bay Casino
Muckleshoot Casino
Nooksack Northwood Casino
Nooksack River Casino
Northern Quest Casino
Okanogan Bingo Casino
Point Casino, The
Quil Ceda Creek Nightclub & Casino
Quinault Beach Resort and Casino
Red Wind Casino
Shoalwater Bay Casino
Silver Reef Hotel Casino Spa
Skagit Valley Casino Resort
Snoqualmie Casino
Suquamish Clearwater Casino Resort
Swinomish Casino
Tulalip Casino
Two Rivers Casino & Resort
Yakama Nation Legends Casino
 
2009-03-19 01:42:12 AM
Want to start making a decent dent in the economic woes of the country? Make casinos pay proper taxes. Restitution can only last for so long.
 
2009-03-19 01:46:40 AM
So Obama's tourney picks (new window) on ESPN today were just for fun, right?

/Wink, wink
 
2009-03-19 01:51:58 AM
One word: 'Neuheisel'

Link (new window)

Ruined it for everyone here in Washington State, the greatest state in the union.

/Go Cougs
 
2009-03-19 02:05:17 AM
Trajan's Call'Em: OK. I am a dyed in the wool Libby, but there are too may laws. Why the fark are these pools against the law? I understand the need/ desire to regulate gambling, but an office pool for the NCAA BB tourny is just too much!

/These asshats will be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.
//Or maybe the DMV.


DMV. Always and forever.

I've yet to hear of any states' vice squad or Gaming Commission actually shutting down some office's football pool. I'd like to see it happen, though, because a lot of them are, well, in the vice squads and Gaming Commission offices.

Police stations have some of the best football pools; firehouses usually have the best payoffs.
 
2009-03-19 02:17:37 AM
The Decider: I hate living here. Washington state was one that was instrumental in getting online gambling taken away, you know, because it hurts families.

It does (washington d.c.) if you are a crooked mafia related optometrist Link (new window)
And oh yea, he ran the March Madness pool every year in his Optometry school.



OgreMagi: cedarpark: And because they are not listed as legal, they are illegal, Hunter said.

That's one slippery slope there, dude.

What isn't obligatory is illegal.


What isn't compulsory is illegal, citizen.
 
2009-03-19 02:39:53 AM
What you need to do is stop going to the tribal casinos and start going to the expanded card rooms.

Don't forget to tip your dealer.
 
2009-03-19 02:46:23 AM
Tons of experience in this whole thing. As a casino employee, I do wish that sports betting was legal in my state. The amount of revenue that "illegal" sports gambling in this area will make your head spin. Unfortunately thanks to the feds, sports betting is only legal, by federal law in Nevada, Oregon, and Delaware. I would love a piece of that 50+ million dollars that Vegas brings in every year on the NCAA Tournament. Could have saved some jobs around here...

/yes I am a casino host
// no you can't any comps
 
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