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(My San Antonio)   HOA is about to foreclose 84 homes in one neighborhood for not paying dues. One home that was about to be foreclosed on had a fine less than $300 dollars   (mysanantonio.com) divider line 256
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2009-03-16 01:47:31 PM
JanusofZeal: Okay, since you've done your homework and done this 3 times apparently, please provide a link to that law. And since your opinion seems to apply universally, that damn well better be a federal law.

/pretty sure you've got jack and shiat.



I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.
 
2009-03-16 01:49:56 PM
I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Well, now see that would be practicing law without a license (which you have clearly offered to do here in a public forum).

But I'm sure you've beaten that fairly universally-accepted prohibition as well.

LOL.
 
2009-03-16 01:50:35 PM
lisarenee3505: I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Hahaha. Yea, right. Do you tell kids "fark you, go get a book to learn math." Of course not. You can't provide ANYTHING, because you're 100% full of shiat. You have ZERO to back up anything you say.

Well, I want to warn you. I saw a yeti walking across your lawn today. I won't provide proof though, you'll just have to go look for yourself.

Welcome to my ignore list, raving psychotic liar #2741.
 
2009-03-16 01:52:26 PM
GEEK FIGHT!!!
 
2009-03-16 01:52:45 PM
trueaustinite: I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Well, now see that would be practicing law without a license (which you have clearly offered to do here in a public forum).

But I'm sure you've beaten that fairly universally-accepted prohibition as well.

LOL.


The FAIL TRAIN is pulling into the station for ya... it's not practicing law w/o a license. If that were so then every online legal library would be shut down.
 
2009-03-16 01:54:00 PM
MrHappyRotter: GEEK FIGHT!!!

GUY JERKING OFF TO A GEEK FIGHT!!!
 
2009-03-16 01:54:04 PM
lisarenee3505

You seriously need to cut down on the caffeine -- and take a good look at the real world around you. You'll be on the breadline soon enough.

Also, the accepted spelling is 'valuable.' Good thing you got that incredible education!
 
2009-03-16 01:54:52 PM
lisarenee3505: Okay you can go DIAF after being raped repetedly by Armenians wearing glass-lined condoms. You DO NOT talk shiat about the President unless you can provide some evidence of Bush doing a better job.. or any job other than destroying the economy and dragging us into an illegal war. Until then, you need to STFU and learn your place, which as an obvious Rethuglican is down in the gutter. You people are FINISHED, don't you get it?!? YOU PEOPLE have come very close to destroying this country and now you want to talk shiat about the man who is going to pull us back from the brink?

Such arrogance! Such audacity!! It is my sincerest hope that some group of concerned REAL Americans will get together and start removing Rethugs from society by any means necessary.


Real or parody?
 
2009-03-16 01:55:10 PM
JanusofZeal: Welcome to my ignore list, raving psychotic liar #2741.

Is ignoring people really so difficult that we need to invoke computer software to accomplish it? How childish...

/feel free to "ignore" me too if you please
//even if you were in the right in that particular argument, nothing says maturity like walling oneself off in a little pocket of protected reality
 
2009-03-16 01:55:39 PM
lisarenee3505: The FAIL TRAIN is pulling into the station for ya... it's not practicing law w/o a license. If that were so then every online legal library would be shut down.

Holding out YOUR legal services to others for pay without a license is you twat.
 
2009-03-16 01:57:46 PM
If you're stupid enough to live where there's an HOA, you deserve whatever happens.
 
2009-03-16 02:00:25 PM
I'm in the market to buy a house right now, and the HoA thing is a big deal to me - I refuse to pay more than $150 a year for a HoA. If I find a house I want that requires more than that annually for HoA dues, I'll either alter the contract or skip the home. It really is that simple to me, as I've read too many horror stories regarding HoAs and the pricks that run them.
 
2009-03-16 02:03:09 PM
lisarenee3505: I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Again, explain this to me... I'll break it down in the steps to buy a house here in PA, ok?

1) Have interest in house
2) Offer bid on house
3) Offer is accepted, contingent on various approvals
4) HOA is part of that contingency
4a) You do not agree to be a part of the HOA
4a1)You lose your bid on the house, end of story.
4a2)You change your mind if the house is that important to you, see 4b
4b) You become a part of the HOA, and the house is yours.

There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. If the HOA is part of the deed, then you have to either accept the deed AS IS and become a part of the HOA, or you walk and find some other place that doesn't have a HOA.

There is no universal law like you purport. We'd been house-shopping for a while, and there was no way around the associations (I've had two different lawyers look into it for me, and no dice). So I'm going to have to side with the others here and say you're full of shiat. Completely and totally.
 
2009-03-16 02:04:22 PM
jshine: Is ignoring people really so difficult that we need to invoke computer software to accomplish it? How childish...

/feel free to "ignore" me too if you please
//even if you were in the right in that particular argument, nothing says maturity like walling oneself off in a little pocket of protected reality


I do need the computer software to remember who to ignore for me. It is amazing how much nicer fark is when you don't even have the chance to read the ramblings of trolls. It's just a matter of a nice simple way to bypass all that stupidity. Also, I don't see anything wrong with using technology to help me in every facet of life, including ignoring people.

/will not be ignoring you
//only ignores people who are blatant trolls or idiots
 
2009-03-16 02:06:19 PM
eddyatwork: I never understood why a HOA can even exist in the so called "land of the free".

You're free not to buy the house.

I am part of an HOA. I pay about $150 a year for some beds to be maintained. The HOA rules are basically "don't be white trash" which I'm all in favor of. My previous home was a little townhouse condo which also had an HOA. Dues paid were a lot but included utilities, building insurance, all landscaping, etc so it was cool. The rules there were "don't be white trash and only X% of units can be rentals" which again I was totally in favor of.

Maybe I've just never run into crazy people but HOAs to me seem like a good thing (cue Martha voice).
 
2009-03-16 02:23:27 PM
lisarenee3505: trueaustinite: I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Well, now see that would be practicing law without a license (which you have clearly offered to do here in a public forum).

But I'm sure you've beaten that fairly universally-accepted prohibition as well.

LOL.

The FAIL TRAIN is pulling into the station for ya... it's not practicing law w/o a license. If that were so then every online legal library would be shut down.


I don't get to say this very often, but you are absolutely WRONG. Completely and utterly incorrect. The rules of a HOA are part of the DEED. When you close, the deed will be noted to reflect that the land and house are covered by an a HOA. You are legally required to abide by the rules, or the HOA can and will sue you and win. And then they will either place a lien against your property or foreclose.

Please do not argue any of these points. It will just make you look like a bigger fool than you already do, if that is possible.
 
2009-03-16 02:33:53 PM
I'm in the market for a house right now, and while I would try to avoid buying a house with HOA dues, it doesn't matter-the ones with the dues are out of my price range anyways. Haha-being only slightly not poor works in my favor for a change!
 
2009-03-16 02:37:48 PM
NightOwl2255: lisarenee3505: trueaustinite: I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Well, now see that would be practicing law without a license (which you have clearly offered to do here in a public forum).

But I'm sure you've beaten that fairly universally-accepted prohibition as well.

LOL.

The FAIL TRAIN is pulling into the station for ya... it's not practicing law w/o a license. If that were so then every online legal library would be shut down.

I don't get to say this very often, but you are absolutely WRONG. Completely and utterly incorrect. The rules of a HOA are part of the DEED. When you close, the deed will be noted to reflect that the land and house are covered by an a HOA. You are legally required to abide by the rules, or the HOA can and will sue you and win. And then they will either place a lien against your property or foreclose.

Please do not argue any of these points. It will just make you look like a bigger fool than you already do, if that is possible.


Someone should tell her about mineral rights and how purchasing a house doesn't give her the rights to what's beneath the soil. Her head might asplode.
 
2009-03-16 02:52:24 PM
LarryDan43: NightOwl2255: lisarenee3505: trueaustinite: I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Well, now see that would be practicing law without a license (which you have clearly offered to do here in a public forum).

But I'm sure you've beaten that fairly universally-accepted prohibition as well.

LOL.

The FAIL TRAIN is pulling into the station for ya... it's not practicing law w/o a license. If that were so then every online legal library would be shut down.

I don't get to say this very often, but you are absolutely WRONG. Completely and utterly incorrect. The rules of a HOA are part of the DEED. When you close, the deed will be noted to reflect that the land and house are covered by an a HOA. You are legally required to abide by the rules, or the HOA can and will sue you and win. And then they will either place a lien against your property or foreclose.

Please do not argue any of these points. It will just make you look like a bigger fool than you already do, if that is possible.

Someone should tell her about mineral rights and how purchasing a house doesn't give her the rights to what's beneath the soil. Her head might asplode.


If it did, it would not be much of an explosion.
 
2009-03-16 02:56:36 PM
eddyatwork: I never understood why a HOA can even exist in the so called "land of the free".

Because freedom means being free to be stupid.
 
2009-03-16 02:58:53 PM
Was working at a customer's home as a cabinet maker a long time ago. HOA biatch Cindy comes by and informs homeowner that work truck is leaking oil (quarter sized drop!) and cites owner for 100.00!

I covered it by backing it out of my invoice.

Found out where Cindy lived.

Finally figured out what to do with years worth of used oil in 5 gallon buckets.
 
2009-03-16 03:04:20 PM
HOAs should be limited by state laws. Sure people sign on voluntarily, but the law doesn't allow for people to voluntarily submit to slavery, Wal-Mart employment excepted.
 
2009-03-16 03:10:27 PM
NeoKast: My home falls under a HOA, and for the life of me I don't know wtf they do with my $260 annual dues. It certainly feels mafioso, since there literally seems to be NOTHING that benefits me that comes from the HOA, unless you count controlling what my neighbors can and can't do to their homes and yards, which I honestly don't give a damn about what they do anyway.

Supposedly they do stuff with the money, but it seems like it all goes to the slightly nicer new neighborhood around the block from me than in my own.


It looks to me like you do know what they do with your money.
 
2009-03-16 03:16:56 PM
What good would this do?

The yard nazis foreclose on the homes, some bargain-hunters purchase them at auction, the yard nazis collect their dues, then the new owners turn around and rent the damned houses out and "forget" to pay their dues, too.
 
2009-03-16 03:24:52 PM
icanhazstapler: Nuke these god damn cartels. They're fundamentally anti-American.

Making agreements and then seizing property is anti-American? Someone better get back to the 13 colonies and tell them to stop HOAing the natives to death.
 
2009-03-16 03:34:48 PM
Roommate almost got a lien on his house because of the HOA. I guess you really do need to pay those $40.00 HOA noise violations.


/It totally worth it though...epic party
 
2009-03-16 03:35:38 PM
lisarenee3505: JanusofZeal: Okay, since you've done your homework and done this 3 times apparently, please provide a link to that law. And since your opinion seems to apply universally, that damn well better be a federal law.

/pretty sure you've got jack and shiat.


I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.


Obvious Troll is......impressed with this young one.
 
2009-03-16 03:38:43 PM
ramblemn: My HOA (basic coverage, $200 a year for mulch and signs) has a clause prohibiting firearm discharge on or in the property.

since NJ considers a BBGun as a Firearm, I'll be breaking the rules if I target practive in the basement or in the backyard.

OR if I have to shoot an intruder with a real gun. There are no exceptions.

So I mentioned this at a annual meeting to get it fixed (for the intruder part) You would have thought I fingerbanged all their daughters in front of them.

NO one comes to my house anymore. it is a wonderful side affect.


So a local HOA legally has more power than the Federal Government in regards to your right of self defense?

Sorry man, that sounds kinda b.sish to me. If that truly is in their clause - that you can not maintain a weapon or discharge a weapon in self defense in order for the preservation of life, please contact me privately. I would LOVE to chat with you. But right now..im thinking you are worked up because in general HOA suck and you are adding fuel to the flames. I dont blame you though..they do suck.

Also...people please stop feeding the troll. Ms sue 3 times and win has reeled you in hook, line and sinker.

10/10 perfection. Subtle but with just enough crazy that people fell for it.
 
2009-03-16 03:47:45 PM
incrdbil: lisarenee3505: JanusofZeal: Okay, since you've done your homework and done this 3 times apparently, please provide a link to that law. And since your opinion seems to apply universally, that damn well better be a federal law.

/pretty sure you've got jack and shiat.


I'll tell you what, when you agree to pay me for the hundreds of hours of time and energy I devoted to studying the laws and finding out the truth FOR MYSELF, then I'll share this very valueable info. Until then, take your ass to your local library and do your own damn research.

Obvious Troll is......impressed with this young one.


Seriously...i just did some looking...this may be the real deal. Full on crazy fark out.

Lisa.. Lisa.. Lisa.. Would your Featherstone friends approve of this?

Well you let me know if you are FSU Lisa. If so..lets talk geology sometime. Just please take your meds prior.
 
2009-03-16 03:48:30 PM
lisarenee3505: BrendaK: So it's legal for people to sell themselves into slavery? Whatever happened to inalienable rights?

It's entirely legal to give away your rights -- just look how many voted to do the same when they elected The Obamessiah.

Okay you can go DIAF after being raped repetedly by Armenians wearing glass-lined condoms. You DO NOT talk shiat about the President unless you can provide some evidence of Bush doing a better job.. or any job other than destroying the economy and dragging us into an illegal war. Until then, you need to STFU and learn your place, which as an obvious Rethuglican is down in the gutter. You people are FINISHED, don't you get it?!? YOU PEOPLE have come very close to destroying this country and now you want to talk shiat about the man who is going to pull us back from the brink?

Such arrogance! Such audacity!! It is my sincerest hope that some group of concerned REAL Americans will get together and start removing Rethugs from society by any means necessary.


*yawn*

You do realize that the economy didn't go into the shiatter until AFTER Obama was elected, right?

Can't keep placing blame on Bush now.

Oh, and btw...

img.photobucket.com
 
2009-03-16 04:28:23 PM
Apik0r0s: HOAs should be limited by state laws. Sure people sign on voluntarily, but the law doesn't allow for people to voluntarily submit to slavery, Wal-Mart employment excepted.

It's adverse ignorance of what an HOA is that is the heart of the problem.
An HOA is a legal entity. The only was for a developer to build an addition is to take on certain legal responsibilities. The only way to relinquish those responsibilities is to pass them on to the homeowners through an HOA. How the HOA is run is up to the homeowners. Many people think that an HOA is just a group of homeowners telling other homeowners to cut their grass and move their cars out of the street. That image is just flat out wrong.
There might a few HOA's that have been turned into that, but the homeowners can vote to change any covenants they want.
Many people, myself included, want to be in an area covered by an HOA. Before we built our house we got a copy of the HOA CC&Rs. There were a couple of covenants I could live without, but over all we agreed with them.
I'm glad I have the freedom to buy into an area where I know what to expect, and can be fairly sure that the value of my house won't be reduced by a neighbor painting his house hot pink and raising chickens in his front yard.
Don't like HOA's, don't buy into one. But don't buy into one, and then biatch about it.
 
2009-03-16 04:32:22 PM
"You do realize that the economy didn't go into the shiatter until AFTER Obama was elected, right?"

That must have been the LONGEST 7 weeks in history.......
 
2009-03-16 04:50:24 PM
Nonesuch: "You do realize that the economy didn't go into the shiatter until AFTER Obama was elected, right?"

That must have been the LONGEST 7 weeks in history.......


That's what she said.

/and isn't the rule that you can reply to a troll WITH a troll with no ill effects?
 
2009-03-16 04:54:08 PM
Wait. $130/year in dues? So the "association" is some dude with a riding mower and a pool skimmer? Surely that's supposed to be $130/month.
 
2009-03-16 05:02:59 PM
BrendaK: lisarenee3505

You seriously need to cut down on the caffeine -- and take a good look at the real world around you. You'll be on the breadline soon enough.

Also, the accepted spelling is 'valuable.' Good thing you got that incredible education!


Umm, I'm sorry, you neo-con rethuglican jack-boot-loving fascist, but a response from you was neither requested nor warranted. If you hate our President so much then how about you renounce your citizenship and pass all of your state and/or federal IDs forward to be shredded, because you are DISMISSED!
 
2009-03-16 05:21:55 PM
Inibrius: lisarenee3505: BrendaK: So it's legal for people to sell themselves into slavery? Whatever happened to inalienable rights?

It's entirely legal to give away your rights -- just look how many voted to do the same when they elected The Obamessiah.

Okay you can go DIAF after being raped repetedly by Armenians wearing glass-lined condoms. You DO NOT talk shiat about the President unless you can provide some evidence of Bush doing a better job.. or any job other than destroying the economy and dragging us into an illegal war. Until then, you need to STFU and learn your place, which as an obvious Rethuglican is down in the gutter. You people are FINISHED, don't you get it?!? YOU PEOPLE have come very close to destroying this country and now you want to talk shiat about the man who is going to pull us back from the brink?

Such arrogance! Such audacity!! It is my sincerest hope that some group of concerned REAL Americans will get together and start removing Rethugs from society by any means necessary.

*yawn*

You do realize that the economy didn't go into the shiatter until AFTER Obama was elected, right?

Can't keep placing blame on Bush now.

Oh, and btw...


Yet another neo-con revisionist who just can't see the forest for the trees. Do you REALLY think that Obama caused all of this in just the few weeks he's been in office? Seriously? I mean really, how stupid are you? Do you have to remind yourself to breathe every few seconds? How can you not realize that the economic policies and deregulation that caused this meltdown were put in place BY BUSH. Let me say that again, just incase it didn't get through all the shiat that has replaced the majority of your brains... the economic policies and deregulation that caused this meltdown were put in place BY BUSH. BY BUSH! BY BUSH!!!!

Jeezus I am so sick and tired of all these so-called "conservatives" making statements that fly in the face of actual reality. I mean, I realize that you guys all live in your own limited little fantasy world where unchecked capitalism works and there's a magical sky-fairy to watch over you, but sooner or later you dense-headed R-tards are going to have to either stand and face the horror that your hero G-Dubya has wrought, or fall by the wayside and let the adults get some work done.

Step up or step aside, you farking inbred, slack-jawed, dopey-eyed mouth-breathers!
 
2009-03-16 05:27:28 PM
and can be fairly sure that the value of my house won't be reduced by a neighbor painting his house hot pink and raising chickens in his front yard.

Where do hell do you live that local government allows people to raise livestock in their front yard? Y'all are familiar with the concept of "ordinances" right?
 
2009-03-16 05:29:46 PM
lisarenee3505: Umm, I'm sorry, you neo-con rethuglican jack-boot-loving fascist, but a response from you was neither requested nor warranted. If you hate our President so much then how about you renounce your citizenship and pass all of your state and/or federal IDs forward to be shredded, because you are DISMISSED!

Gee, for someone who so hotly resents her neighbors telling her what to do, you really get excited when you defend the power of the government to tell everyone what to do.
 
2009-03-16 05:35:19 PM
lisarenee3505: Umm, I'm sorry, you neo-con rethuglican jack-boot-loving fascist, but a response from you was neither requested nor warranted. If you hate our President so much then how about you renounce your citizenship and pass all of your state and/or federal IDs forward to be shredded, because you are DISMISSED!

Ooooooo, ikle-boo got her widdle fweewings hurt. Maybe Barney Frank can give you a great, big 'everything's FINE with Fanny Mae' hug and it'll all be better. Oh, and President Obamessiah can send you a nice unicorn! Unicorn magic will certainly fix the market, now that he's managed to destroy a huge chunk of America's wealth. Pissing off our best allies and empowering the worst jackass terrorists in the world was just a secondary goal, and look how well he did there!

Like I said, better take a look at the real world. You're going to want to understand how those breadline things work, soon-to-be-unemployed/never-been-employed gurrrl.
 
2009-03-16 05:36:52 PM
DFWPhotoGuy: Also...people please stop feeding the troll. Ms sue 3 times and win has reeled you in hook, line and sinker.

10/10 perfection. Subtle but with just enough crazy that people fell for it.


Hehe, FINALLY someone gives me some credit for what was, in my opinion anyway, a pretty good performance. Thanks :)
 
2009-03-16 05:44:31 PM
BrendaK: Ooooooo, ikle-boo got her widdle fweewings hurt. Maybe Barney Frank can give you a great, big 'everything's FINE with Fanny Mae' hug and it'll all be better. Oh, and President Obamessiah can send you a nice unicorn! Unicorn magic will certainly fix the market, now that he's managed to destroy a huge chunk of America's wealth. Pissing off our best allies and empowering the worst jackass terrorists in the world was just a secondary goal, and look how well he did there!

Like I said, better take a look at the real world. You're going to want to understand how those breadline things work, soon-to-be-unemployed/never-been-employed gurrrl.


Yet again, you are replying where none was warranted. What part of YOU ARE DISMISSED do you not get? I mean all you are doing here is proving the inherent stupidity of your average neo-con. "Ooo, lets talk shiat about the new Prez and blame everything on him! Its so much easier than admitting that we FARKED UP BIG-TIME by electing that scat-throwing monkey-eared redneck to the White House twice."

Seriously, how can you live with yourself knowing what your brainless hero has done to this country and the world? And then you go and try to blame it all on Obama?!?

Let these words be my last address to you, as I no longer wish to waste my time banging your head against the wall of Truth...

The whole of human communication lacks the language to describe just how vulgarly stupid you and your neo-con pals are.
 
2009-03-16 05:46:05 PM
Phinn:

Gee, for someone who so hotly resents her neighbors telling her what to do, you really get excited when you defend the power of the government to tell everyone what to do.


When I get to elect my neighbors, then I'll defend their power to tell me what to do.
 
2009-03-16 05:56:23 PM
Inibrius: You do realize that the economy didn't go into the shiatter until AFTER Obama was elected, right?

I know you're a troll, but just to further shut you down:
Dow Jones on Google Finance

The Dow dropped from a high in Oct. 2007 of around 14,000 to just below 8,000 on inauguration day. 6,000 points, before Obama was even sworn in.
 
2009-03-16 06:01:18 PM
lisarenee3505: Phinn:

Gee, for someone who so hotly resents her neighbors telling her what to do, you really get excited when you defend the power of the government to tell everyone what to do.

When I get to elect my neighbors, then I'll defend their power to tell me what to do.


Good to see that you feel it is governments' appropriate business to tell you what to do. I'm sure life is much easier for you, what with never having to think or act for yourself. How's that government cheese working out for you? I've heard it causes constipation in some people.

BTW, you can always elect to ignore me. You do know that, right? Oh, wait, the government didn't tell you what to do in this situation. Poor thing.

In any case, I'm off for my weekly NRJFoA meeting (Neo-con Rethuglican Jackboot Wearing Fascists of America).

Toodles, loon!
 
2009-03-16 06:05:28 PM
BrendaK: lisarenee3505: Phinn:

Gee, for someone who so hotly resents her neighbors telling her what to do, you really get excited when you defend the power of the government to tell everyone what to do.

When I get to elect my neighbors, then I'll defend their power to tell me what to do.

Good to see that you feel it is governments' appropriate business to tell you what to do. I'm sure life is much easier for you, what with never having to think or act for yourself. How's that government cheese working out for you? I've heard it causes constipation in some people.

BTW, you can always elect to ignore me. You do know that, right? Oh, wait, the government didn't tell you what to do in this situation. Poor thing.

In any case, I'm off for my weekly NRJFoA meeting (Neo-con Rethuglican Jackboot Wearing Fascists of America).

Toodles, loon!


I had to give up my NRJFoA card. Couldn't find any decent looking Jackboots in my size.
semiskimmed.net
 
2009-03-16 06:11:04 PM
lisarenee3505: DFWPhotoGuy: Also...people please stop feeding the troll. Ms sue 3 times and win has reeled you in hook, line and sinker.

10/10 perfection. Subtle but with just enough crazy that people fell for it.

Hehe, FINALLY someone gives me some credit for what was, in my opinion anyway, a pretty good performance. Thanks :)


BTW...you didn't answer me earlier question - did you go to FSU? If so my fiance and I would love to chat....you are cute.
 
2009-03-16 06:57:49 PM
Some HOAs are genuinely voluntary, rather than implemented through restrictive covenants.

So, for those, going "No, I'm not joining - screw you" works fine. They will whine and complain, but that's about it.

For most HOAs, it's a restrictive covenant - it's applied to the deed. You buy the house, generally speaking, you get the HOA. There are some things that can be done, which vary from state to state and can be as extreme as dissolving and/or neutering the HOA.
 
2009-03-16 07:33:18 PM
Retards.... Read before you sign. Well, HOA's are for retards.
 
2009-03-16 09:56:02 PM
lisarenee3505: Phinn:

Gee, for someone who so hotly resents her neighbors telling her what to do, you really get excited when you defend the power of the government to tell everyone what to do.

When I get to elect my neighbors, then I'll defend their power to tell me what to do.


You have far more influence over the actions of an HOA than you do over the government. You'd have anywhere from a couple dozen to a couple hundred HOA households, with one vote each. There's a couple hundred million voters in the US. So, you'd have around 1-10 million times more influence in how an HOA is run.

Then, there's the part where mega-corporations basically control everything the US government does, which reduces any particular voter's influence from from almost zero (one-200-millionth of a choice from a slate of pre-selected candidates every four years) to truly zero.

Plus, you can move away from an HOA more easily than you can move way from the US government. It claims to control a lot more territory than your average HOA does, and asserts a broader scope of powers over everyone in that territory compared to an HOA.
 
2009-03-16 10:01:02 PM
I am so farking glad my first home purchase was nowhere near a subdivision or other HOA-infested area. My lone residential neighbor has a privacy fence between our properties and after living here two months I have yet to even see or hear of them. My only other neighbors are a church and its cemetery. Unless there is a zombie uprising, I doubt I'll have any neighbor issues.
 
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