Bear pie float... in a mug of beer

Does it give worms to ex-girlfriends?

I like how the article has already posted the obligatory pics.

Next week's news: 2 scientists studying an enzyme that could have prevented diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, cancer, psoriasis, etc ... were found shot to death. In the back. 40 times. Suicide is suspected.

/Pfizer, whistling, stuffs hands in pockets and casually walks away.

I just clicked the link. Where the hell was the NSFL tag, smitty!?!

Biggun' threads make me sad. And by sad I mean laugh.

Xenomech : Where the hell was the NSFL tag, smitty!?!

Not Safe For Leapfrog?

The article is about isolating an enzyme, not developing a pill. That still seems far away. No beer pie, yet. I'm more excited for the "exercise in a pill"

Fat people around the world jump for joy

world knocked off it's axis, causing massive climate disruption...

Soon... soon i will be able to partake of the American delicasies found here:

Link (new window)

FTFA: But obesity experts say such pills are years from the market, and most people would benefit from eating less and exercising more.

WELL, DUH!

HoboSong: What a big,fat arse may look like

That chair must be made of Adamantium.

Ipapec syrup has been around a long time. Did they put it in pill form?

I fear subby's reading comprehension skills are somewhat lacking, the article is about an enzyme being isolated, not development of a pill

cube911: I fear subby's reading comprehension skills are somewhat lacking, the article is about an enzyme being isolated, not development of a pill

Thanks, Debbie. Why do you hate fat people?

Wouldn't using this enzyme result in mega amounts of hyperactivity? A sugar rush that lasts for several hours and doesn't have the downer afterwards.

Smokey the Bare: carniemechanic: FTFA: But obesity experts say such pills are years from the market, and most people would benefit from eating less and exercising more.

WELL, DUH!

Simple lifestyle changes (eating in moderation and a couple bouts of exercise a week) is really all that 95% of fat people need. Now they have this future treatment to look forward to and will continue to stuff their faces with delicious food. Actually, they would probably do that regardless...



/go fatty go

I am really creeped out by the eyes rolling back in the head like that. That person is getting waaaay too into whatever the hell it is that they're eating.

Meat in Loaf - yummy

FTFA: Discovered: ... the key to staying slim

It's called Put down the cheesburger, fattie.

Remember, these people aren't fat, they have

Boyyyyyyyyyyy Oh Boyyyyyyyyyy
Port Richey Florida parade will be Greattttttttt this year.

"The fat they absorbed was burnt off as energy, rather than stored, the journal Nature Medicine reports."

The physics of this are impressive. You absorb the fat, but it burns off as energy.

You look something like this?

Keep eating. When the aliens arrive, slow runners get eaten first.

cherryl taggart: Keep eating. When the aliens arrive, slow runners get eaten first will be the last picked for gladiatorial games.

In Okinawa we have the longest expectancy of life among any other of the worlds cultures. We eat diet including many low fat foods high in protein. And we excercise very much more than other nations.

Clockwork Orange anyone?

Won't do any good .... it'll still take a year for people to slim and that's Not Good Enough for the modern attention span. All the overdosing should be good Fark-fodder though.

Typical Americans. Find the easy (non)solution because the alternative is too hard and requires effort.

techmom: Would they just output the energy as heat?

FTA:
With almost a quarter of men and women obese and children farting little better, such a drug is likely to have mass appeal.

/well, that's the way I read it the first time...

farkwa: Boyyyyyyyyyyy Oh Boyyyyyyyyyy
Port Richey Florida parade will be Greattttttttt this year.

Heheh! Thanks for making me laugh this morning.

/Lives in NPR

Sweet Jesus! Got off you fat asses, exercise and eat better. WTF is wrong with you fatties? You're waiting for a pill? Fark you.

EnglishChef PolishInventor GermanHumanitarian: In Okinawa we have the longest expectancy of life among any other of the worlds cultures. We eat diet including many low fat foods high in protein. And we excercise very much more than other nations.

Oklahoma isn't a nation, moran

12 Inch Pianist: Sweet Jesus! Got off you fat asses, exercise and eat better. WTF is wrong with you fatties? You're waiting for a pill? Fark you.

Believe it or not, some of us have weight problems even though we do that. Some of us have the genetics that tries to store fat for times of shortage, some don't. If a pill can counteract that, why is that a horrible thing?

I'd still exercise even if a pill based on this discovery helps me lose weight, I'd just be putting less stress on my knees.

Smokey the Bare:



I love the eyes rolling back into its head in pleasure. Almost like a heroine addict getting a fix.

Young Rory Calhoun: The article is about isolating an enzyme, not developing a pill. That still seems far away. No beer pie, yet. I'm more excited for the "exercise in a pill"

That's called meth.


HomerButt: I am really creeped out by the eyes rolling back in the head like that. That person is getting waaaay too into whatever the hell it is that they're eating.

It's the same sort of protective mechanism that sharks use: they roll their eyes back when striking to avaid any damage to them. No doubt the same thing keeps crumbs/grease/jelly/etc. out of the fat person's eyes when diving into their latest victim meal.

As a fatty who plays soccer 4 times a week, goes to they gym 3 times and week and could probably run laps around a large percentage of you farkers, this sounds awesome (although I'm not getting my hopes up).

Belltower: 12 Inch Pianist: Sweet Jesus! Got off you fat asses, exercise and eat better. WTF is wrong with you fatties? You're waiting for a pill? Fark you.

Believe it or not, some of us have weight problems even though we do that. Some of us have the genetics that tries to store fat for times of shortage, some don't. If a pill can counteract that, why is that a horrible thing?

I've heard that justification so many times, and it's a tired and entirely wrong argument. I'm certain your diet and level of exercise do not match up.

caperbear
Soon... soon i will be able to partake of the American delicasies found here:

I got through three pages thinking "eww, nasty". Then I saw the Bacon Wrapped Mozzarella Sticks. Must try at least once.

/oh, hte deep fried grilled cheese looked OK too.
//I have to say it again, Bacon Wrapped Mozzarella Sticks.

DsRsF: I've heard that justification so many times, and it's a tired and entirely wrong argument. I'm certain your diet and level of exercise do not match up.

Begun, the flame war has.

DsRsF:
Believe it or not, some of us have weight problems even though we do that. Some of us have the genetics that tries to store fat for times of shortage, some don't. If a pill can counteract that, why is that a horrible thing?
I've heard that justification so many times, and it's a tired and entirely wrong argument. I'm certain your diet and level of exercise do not match up.

Believe it or not, you still obey the laws of thermodynamics regardless of your genetics. Read this, I quite enjoyed it. It is the perspective of an engineer approaching weight loss as any other problem to be solved.

Razorwolf: Bear pie float... in a mug of beer

bacon bear pie beer float with butter


/hmmm bacon

tobyd

That picture has probably been thrown around Fark a million times, but it's the first time I saw it and I laughed so hard the patients just stared at me like I was an idiot.

GaryPDX: Don't worry, the fatties will keep the Zombies busy feasting while we run away, far far away. Why? Because we can.

The reason I keep myself out of shape is so that, after I'm turned into a zombie by the apocalypse, the survivors will still be able to outrun me.

I wonder if this would be of benefit to athletes. Currently they load up mostly on carbs to store energy but fat has a lot more calories in it.

If this enzyme makes it easier to convert fat to energy then that might provide a much larger reserve store. Will this enzyme be banned from use in that case?

I love the eyes rolling back into its head in pleasure. Almost like a heroine addict getting a fix.

And, you know, the thing about a fatty... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

caperbear: Soon... soon i will be able to partake of the American delicasies found here:

Link (new window)

Wow. The only thing like that I ever made like that was toast, with butter, on each side, plus cheese, plus bacon, plus ham. Delicious. And it explains why I weighed 220 before I joined the USAF.

/af pt saved my ass from fat

DsRsF: Belltower: 12 Inch Pianist: Sweet Jesus! Got off you fat asses, exercise and eat better. WTF is wrong with you fatties? You're waiting for a pill? Fark you.

Believe it or not, some of us have weight problems even though we do that. Some of us have the genetics that tries to store fat for times of shortage, some don't. If a pill can counteract that, why is that a horrible thing?
I've heard that justification so many times, and it's a tired and entirely wrong argument. I'm certain your diet and level of exercise do not match up.

You'd be naive to think that genetics doesn't play a large role in this equation. It is a very valid argument, but it is used as an excuse by a lot of people with very unhealthy habits.

Now that it has been identified, an enzymatic test will be developed to help identify those individuals who do have a genetic propensity towards obesity. It will also force those fat and lazy people who relied on this as an excuse to come up with something new.

DsRsF: I've heard that justification so many times, and it's a tired and entirely wrong argument. I'm certain your diet and level of exercise do not match up.

I don't deny it's an issue of calories in vs. calories out. BUT you can get fat even if you exercise a fair bit and eat healthy foods, if your appetite is such that you eat more of them.

Right now, I have my second cup of coffee this morning. It's sweetened with splenda, and the milk is unsweetened almond milk. My breakfast? Special K, again with unsweetened almond milk. My food stash includes grapefruit, bananas, clementines, blackberries, lettuce with a little spray oil and vinegar dressing on it, and non-fat yogurt.

Exercise? I spent somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5 hours this past weekend on treadmills and ellipticals.

Smokey the Bare: or at least made a joke about the stress on your knees

I've had two knee surgeries to clean out the bits of bone I've been knocking off my patellas with my femurs from the stress of playing indoor soccer.

Knock out that annoying, constant feeling of hunger whenever I don't eat too much, and I'll be in great shape. It really is that simple. The slim among us generally have it naturally.

This is great. Nature is brutal. Anything that conquers the punishment of nature is great.

Still, this has already been invented. It is called Coke Zero.

Doubleodoug: It will also force those fat and lazy people who relied on this as an excuse to come up with something new.

How about "I enjoy eating good food, and don't see a benefit for torturing myself so I can look good for women who I can't have sex with without losing half my stuff."

Belltower: DsRsF: I've heard that justification so many times, and it's a tired and entirely wrong argument. I'm certain your diet and level of exercise do not match up.

I don't deny it's an issue of calories in vs. calories out. BUT you can get fat even if you exercise a fair bit and eat healthy foods, if your appetite is such that you eat more of them.

Right now, I have my second cup of coffee this morning. It's sweetened with splenda, and the milk is unsweetened almond milk. My breakfast? Special K, again with unsweetened almond milk. My food stash includes grapefruit, bananas, clementines, blackberries, lettuce with a little spray oil and vinegar dressing on it, and non-fat yogurt.

Exercise? I spent somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5 hours this past weekend on treadmills and ellipticals.

Smokey the Bare: or at least made a joke about the stress on your knees

I've had two knee surgeries to clean out the bits of bone I've been knocking off my patellas with my femurs from the stress of playing indoor soccer.

Knock out that annoying, constant feeling of hunger whenever I don't eat too much, and I'll be in great shape. It really is that simple. The slim among us generally have it naturally.

What speed? 2.5 mph, that's not much. 7.5 mph, good start.

2,4-Dinitrophenol burns fat you already have. But it's pretty hardcore (new window)

Subby, you mean fat people around the world go running for the bathroom. And you will NOT want to go in there when they finally reemerge.

/Shudder.

Hey, subby, is there some reason thin people wouldn't be able to take the pill and avoid gaining weight, too?

QueenOfHearts: Subby, you mean fat people around the world go running for the bathroom. And you will NOT want to go in there when they finally reemerge.

I like in the Alli commercial when the fat chick says "it helps me make better choices." Yeah, because if you eat anything with fat in it you're going to be shiatting your pants.

The Icelander: Smokey the Bare:



I love the eyes rolling back into its head in pleasure. Almost like a heroine addict getting a fix.

Lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes.

Belltower: I don't deny it's an issue of calories in vs. calories out. BUT you can get fat even if you exercise a fair bit and eat healthy foods, if your appetite is such that you eat more of them.

Wow, hey MAYBE that's your problem then.

Dumbass.

I_Am_Weasel: Scientists develop pill allowing obese individuals to eat whatever they want and not gain weight. Fat people around the world jump for joy, hyperventilate

The explains the problems in the earth's gravitational pull.

Whoa, that's heavy, Doc.

The Icelander: Doubleodoug: It will also force those fat and lazy people who relied on this as an excuse to come up with something new.

How about "I enjoy eating good food, and don't see a benefit for torturing myself so I can look good for women who I can't have sex with without losing half my stuff."

That's not an excuse, that is justification.

Okay, but farking a cantaloupe filled with pudding is still fat free right? RIGHT?!

Smokey the Bare: rathoth:
/af pt saved my ass from fat helped me get fat

FTFM

AF PT (or lack thereof) assisted in my weight gain. I also blame the career field that I'm in too since they really don't care what you look like. That and me not giving a shiat about how I looked for 2 years either. Yeah, I was definitely the driving force behind being fat.

Just remember, it's mandatory three times a week. *cough*

Hell, our freaking Wing CC here at Andrews mandates CrossFit once a week (hardcore stuff), AFPT Test prep once a test, and 'team building' (fun day) once a week. I would say it's crappy micromanaging...except it's actually a good idea that builds strength and fitness, improves testing results, and lets us still play team sports. It's a Love-Hate thing with me.

And also remember Blues Monday. I think the whole reason that was implemented was to shame people into losing weight because their Blues are screaming for a quick death.

Jumping for joy (new window)

What, do I have to do everything around here?

Is it crystal meth?

*came for the picture of the kid at mcdonald's and left disappointed*

The Icelander: QueenOfHearts: Subby, you mean fat people around the world go running for the bathroom. And you will NOT want to go in there when they finally reemerge.

I like in the Alli commercial when the fat chick says "it helps me make better choices." Yeah, because if you eat anything with fat in it you're going to be shiatting your pants.

Exactly. Things that make you go BLECH.

/Double shudder.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Belltower: I don't deny it's an issue of calories in vs. calories out. BUT you can get fat even if you exercise a fair bit and eat healthy foods, if your appetite is such that you eat more of them.

Wow, hey MAYBE that's your problem then.

Yes, that I have an appetite that triggers to get me to take in more calories than I burn.

Guess what, farkwad, that's a physical condition. Not willpower, not being a lardass, not being on a seefood diet -- it's part of my physiology. And it's what this pill is supposed to treat, making me have the appetite of skinnier people.

But no doubt you're one of those who doesn't like the thought of there being fewer fat people, because then you'll have an even harder time feeling good about yourself by picking on the flaws of others.

This is probably my favorite article today.

techmom: If they're not actually exercising, I'm trying to figure out how this works. Would they just output the energy as heat? Massive global warming indeed!

I thought this was one of those things to make regular fats undigestable. IE, the stomach would break it down, but not absorb it (like olestra).

I didn't know these guys figured out a way to circumvent the law of conservation of energy.

/so either this pill makes the oil pass through, or it makes them fidget like a toucan on an iceberg.

Belltower: Guess what, farkwad, that's a physical condition. Not willpower

Where there is a will, there is a way.

oouter: /agree, doesn't take much willpower to push the meat off your plate, and load up on the veggies.

My personal vice is sugar.

/typing from behind a big hot glass of Swedish berry tea.

saluteyourshorts: *came for the picture of the kid at mcdonald's and left disappointed*

It was in the article.

No way this can end badly. Because manipulating the body's metabolism so someone can eat whatever the fark they want, as much as they want, sounds really healthy.

I think this is what made submitter think "pill": "A pill that targets the enzyme in people could provide a new weapon in the battle of the bulge."

Eating less would be much simpler and cheaper and reasonable. Can't have that. Wouldn't want people to think that problems can be solved with anything besides pharmaceuticals.

theoriginalslash: No way this can end badly. Because manipulating the body's metabolism so someone can eat whatever the fark they want, as much as they want, sounds really healthy.

I think this is what made submitter think "pill": "A pill that targets the enzyme in people could provide a new weapon in the battle of the bulge."

Eating less would be much simpler and cheaper and reasonable. Can't have that. Wouldn't want people to think that problems can be solved with anything besides pharmaceuticals.

Why are you anti-business?? Pfizer has to sell you something to survive.

lordargent: I thought this was one of those things to make regular fats undigestable. IE, the stomach would break it down, but not absorb it (like olestra).

I didn't know these guys figured out a way to circumvent the law of conservation of energy.


First, based solely on the stories I've heard, Olestra is nasty stuff.

Second, this does not need to violate any conservation laws... although the biological implications boggle my mind. Imagine boosting the metabolic rate to burn that extra energy but not actually doing anything different (like exercising). You will be sweating to dump the extra heat, and panting like a dog to keep your respiration rate up.

I wonder what it would do to your heart. I'd imagine your heart rate would also have to increase to get the oxygen in/CO2 out of your blood and tissues to keep up.

Literally exercise in a pill, from the sounds of it.
=Smidge=

Starryeyes: Bear pie.

Hair pie?

/hotlinked for her pleasure

Sometimes people have something wrong with them, so they can't lose weight. Sometimes, when people get on the right medication, they start losing weight like crazy if they stick to proper lifestyle changes.

If you are on the proper medication and do not bother to change your lifestyle, you deserve to not lose weight.

/dropped 46 lbs in 4 months
//got pregnant =\

RE imgod2u 2009-03-16 01:26:27 PM
"Then there're people who eat 1/2 of what I do regularly and still maintain a pear shape. I realize it's harder for some than others simply due to what their natural capabilities are. Sometimes, a pill can help."

Fen-phen. I know they're not the same, probably don't work the same way chemically, but still.

The fact is, the majority of people in America aren't overweight because of metabolism or genetics. They're overweight because they eat too much and don't burn off enough calories to keep from gaining weight.

theoriginalslash: The fact is, the majority of people in America aren't overweight because of metabolism or genetics. They're overweight because they eat too much and don't burn off enough calories to keep from gaining weight.

I was watching a news report on childhood obesity a while back and this mother was DRIVING her fattie daughter to a dance class. It was less than 2 miles from their house, but they still had to drive because there were no sidewalks, as it was in some strip mall somewhere.

Imagine how many calories that fattie could burn if she were able to walk to her dance class.

Belltower: Guess what, farkwad, that's a physical condition. Not lack of willpower, not being a lardass.

FTFY.


It's called a reduced-calorie diet. Following it for a few weeks can help you shrink your sensation of hunger, reducing the amount of food your body needs to feel full. Also, the sensation of being "full" (initiated by the release of leptin) doesn't set in until anywhere from 5-20 minutes after your stomach actually is. Hence the ability to overeat for morons who don't know what a normal portion is. Barring of course the extremely small percentage of people who have homozygous mutations for the leptin gene or other disorders that legitimately interfere with appetite control.

If you weren't constantly stuffing your face, your body would adapt, leaving you satisfied with a normal sized meal. If you're so fat that you've eaten your way into diabetes, you've likely messed up your leptin and ghrelin levels. And that is also your fault, as your idiocy and overeating brought you there.

Reducing your caloric intake, patientce, and learning what a normal portion is would require willpower, something you clearly don't have.

Came for pics of Sir Topham Hat leaving disappointed.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Belltower: Guess what, farkwad, that's a physical condition. Not lack of willpower, not being a lardass.

FTFY.


It's called a reduced-calorie diet. Following it for a few weeks can help you shrink your sensation of hunger, reducing the amount of food your body needs to feel full. Also, the sensation of being "full" (initiated by the release of leptin) doesn't set in until anywhere from 5-20 minutes after your stomach actually is. Hence the ability to overeat for morons who don't know what a normal portion is. Barring of course the extremely small percentage of people who have homozygous mutations for the leptin gene or other disorders that legitimately interfere with appetite control.

If you weren't constantly stuffing your face, your body would adapt, leaving you satisfied with a normal sized meal. If you're so fat that you've eaten your way into diabetes, you've likely messed up your leptin and ghrelin levels. And that is also your fault, as your idiocy and overeating brought you there.

Reducing your caloric intake, patientce, and learning what a normal portion is would require willpower, something you clearly don't have.

Dude, seriously? You know nothing about this person's actual condition, yet you continue to declare that they have a lack of willpower. Couldn't possibly be any of the other factors. Come on, you ought to know that people metabolize food at varying rates, and that metabolism is dependent not only on a person's genetics but also up on their environment. Even just living in a cold climate can cause a person to burn more calories simply keeping the resting body warm. There are countless other factors that could be at play here, and you feel the need to pick on someone for something they may or may not be able to help?

I'm a firm believer that the difference between calories in and calories out is accountable for most, if not all, of your body weight. But what you are ignoring in your posts is that the rate at which calories are used varies from person to person. There is no reason to be an ass about it. We haven't jumped on your case for not having the willpower to stop being a dick yet, so don't jump on anyone else for going back for an extra cookie, especially when you don't know what you're talking about.

Belltower: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Belltower: I don't deny it's an issue of calories in vs. calories out. BUT you can get fat even if you exercise a fair bit and eat healthy foods, if your appetite is such that you eat more of them.

Wow, hey MAYBE that's your problem then.

Yes, that I have an appetite that triggers to get me to take in more calories than I burn.

Guess what, farkwad, that's a physical condition. Not willpower, not being a lardass, not being on a seefood diet -- it's part of my physiology. And it's what this pill is supposed to treat, making me have the appetite of skinnier people.

But no doubt you're one of those who doesn't like the thought of there being fewer fat people, because then you'll have an even harder time feeling good about yourself by picking on the flaws of others.

From your posts, it sounds like you are not counting your calories correctly. This past weekend, I talked to a person I know. We got on the conversation of diets, and he was complaining he wasn't losing weight despite eating only 1700 calories a day. This person eats more calories than I do, and I am a very active (average of 1.5 hours of exercise a day, including heavy weights and intense cardio) person who eats about 2500 calories a day. I have seen this person scarf down a bag of candy bars in a single sitting. I didn't say anything, but should have. I am to the point where I actually need to eat weight gain shakes to get enough calories so I don't lose muscle.

My point is that you are consuming more than you think. Count everything you eat. The almond milk is worse for you than you think. Splenda is not good for you, either (messes your metabolism up). Fruits (especially juice) should be eaten sparingly, as they are loaded with sugars. If you are feeling hungry, load up on a low calorie vegetable such as brussels sprouts, brocoli or carrots. Every meal I throw in a few vegetables with my high protein foods (chicken breast, fish, etc). They taste great if cooked right.

If you are exercising that much and not losing weight, you are not exercising hard enough. When you exercise, you should push yourself to the point of exhaustion. When you finish, you should be so exhausted you can not think of anything except sitting down and drinking water. Don't drink gatorade when you exercise. Don't use ellipticals. The only time I use treadmills is if it is storming outside or I want to time a distance run (i.e. time a mile run). Machines, while nice, generally make you think you are doing more than you are. Before you run, use google maps to map out a path for the desired distance and set a time goal.

can you imagine the 2/3 foot long turds that these professional eaters will be dropping?? whew, our toilet techs need to develop more robust toilets otherwise its clogged shiattty city.

Linux_Yes: can you imagine the 2/3 foot long turds that these professional eaters will be dropping?? whew, our toilet techs need to develop more robust toilets otherwise its clogged shiattty city.

i meant 2 to 3 foot long Turds.they'll be able to sit on the toilet and eat. the stream will be unbroken.

hotdog goes in, turd slides out another 2 or 3 inches.

either way, these professional eaters and their pills won't be able to create a Turd equivalent to the Gargantuan ShhittCake that our wallstreet friends have fed America.

Uh yeah, these 'breakthroughs' have been happening for years.

And few ever panned to anything without massive side effects.

boy_from_easter_island: Dude, seriously? You know nothing about this person's actual condition, yet you continue to declare that they have a lack of willpower. Couldn't possibly be any of the other factors. Come on, you ought to know that people metabolize food at varying rates, and that metabolism is dependent not only on a person's genetics but also up on their environment. Even just living in a cold climate can cause a person to burn more calories simply keeping the resting body warm. There are countless other factors that could be at play here, and you feel the need to pick on someone for something they may or may not be able to help?

I'm a firm believer that the difference between calories in and calories out is accountable for most, if not all, of your body weight. But what you are ignoring in your posts is that the rate at which calories are used varies from person to person. There is no reason to be an ass about it. We haven't jumped on your case for not having the willpower to stop being a dick yet, so don't jump on anyone else for going back for an extra cookie, especially when you don't know what you're talking about.

Really? Amazing. I can't believe people of different sizes and make ups would metabolize food at differing rates.

Obviously a large male living in Alaska will metabolize food at a different rate than a small female in Hawaii. But it's also proportional to their size and caloric needs. Unless they have a genetic disorder or other underlying malady.

The problem is morons who say "I eat a strict health food diet", forgetting to say they eat 2 to 3 times the normal amount, and might as well have forgotten the 4 bowls of Special K with soy milk and had a bag of potato chips. Parents who don't teach their kids portions, and people who don't understand that you don't get full immediately and so continue to gorge themselves as if they just awoke from a coma are a problem.

Am I an ass? Absolutely. But coddling and tolerating idiocy and laziness does nothing but encourage it.

I've known people on both sides of the issue and I myself was probably up around 20% bodyfat after a whole life of extremely good fitness, during a period of extreme stress with work and life a few years ago. But I realized that making excuses and going around and pitying for myself isn't a f*cking solution.

You either go to a doctor to see if you have a legitimate health problem that's causing your weight gain, or shut the f*ck up about it, act like a responsible adult and get your sh*t together. See a psychiatrist if you need to, work out your issues and start treating your body right. Waiting for someone to come along and fix it for you is a child's reaction. Grow up and take responsibility.

The best part of that page was the link to this (new window) little gem on the side, about a mom wanting to score poon for her tard kid.

Smokey the Bare:
Yeah, Blues Monday. "Honoring our heritage" my ass.

Sounds like your Wing CC has a hard-on for PT, which like you said, isn't necessarily a bad thing. Group stuff only really sucks when there's no farking regard for the people who do shift work. Nothing is worse than getting off of a 12 hour mid just to wait around for 3 hours after work to run 5K. How the hell is that healthy at all?

Tell me about it! I only work 8 hour shifts (day, swing, mid). 0700 PT works out fine for Mids (stay longer) and Days (someone else covers the counter). But Swing gets assraped, since one of the PT formation is mandatory...even for Swings. Even though we get off at 10PM, so PT is 9 hours later. That'd be like Days (or Admin bastard) coming in at freaking Midnight just for PT. Hell, even if it's a day off we may still have to come just to meet that "With Squadron Once a Week" requirement.

The inability of Staff and Admin people to accept that there is, in fact, a 24/7 Operational Air Force just causes me endless stress. Even when a good program is set up by chubby-for-pt having CC, it still misses that important mark.

And I agree, it can't be healthy at all. It interferes with a sound sleep schedule. Creates unneeded stress and fatigue, reducing overall effectiveness. If I'm tired and don't brief a pilot the right weather because I'm exhausted, that will be a serious issue. Caffeine is no solution to that problem either.

machoprogrammer: If you are exercising that much and not losing weight, you are not exercising hard enough.

I'm 44 with surgically fixed knees. There are limits. Moreover, if I do anything high impact, then I'm in too much pain to exercise for a few days after. Ellipticals really are easier on the knees, so I can exercise more.

The almond milk is worse for you than you think.

It has no added sugar, for 40 calories per 8 oz according to the label. That's pretty low, compared even to skim milk.

Splenda is not good for you, either

Neither is being overweight. Without a definitive statement of Splenda's effects, it's hard to judge, but it certainly lowers calories.

Fruits (especially juice) should be eaten sparingly, as they are loaded with sugars

I do generally avoid juice, that soluble fiber is generally good though.

machoprogrammer: When you exercise, you should push yourself to the point of exhaustion.

Again: The benefit of being fit isn't worth pushing myself to exhaustion on a regular basis.

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: You either go to a doctor to see if you have a legitimate health problem that's causing your weight gain

... and at some point in the future, he may give you a pill based on this discovery. Gosh, why didn't we think of that?

The problem is morons who say "I eat a strict health food diet", forgetting to say they eat 2 to 3 times the normal amount

"Belltower:BUT you can get fat even if you exercise a fair bit and eat healthy foods, if your appetite is such that you eat more of them."

Didn't say I wasn't eating too much, I said appetite was the reason.

Parents who don't teach their kids portions

You can teach appetite? * boggled *

Rusty Bumpers: Meat in Loaf - yummy

MEAT IN LOAF?!

THAT'S MEATBREAD! CALL IT BY THE PROPER NAME!

/Yes, I sometimes hang out on /tg/

All you need is to have more willpower than a table fork.

A 6500 calorie a day diet is not an inherited glandular problem. Its a dinner plate-to-mouth problem.

"Appetite" is not an all-controlling thing. You don't have to shove things in your food hole just because the tummy rumbles.

The rest of us call it 'self-control.'

I'm admittedly, currently, a bit of a fatass, and that it's partially my fault. I'm arguing the idiotic assheads that claim skinny is 100% the result of willpower/lifestyle. That's the difference between my body fat and yours. Mine isn't packed into my cranium, forcing me to be ignorant and judgmental.

Before you waltz into an argument get your facts straight. Genetics sometimes plays as big a role as does lifestyle, as well as what amounts to luck(enzymes, flora, etc). To argue otherwise is just to troll, but ignorantly so.

/I'm also listed as obese, when I'm down to my healthy weight in the middle of summer hard labor(I'm a barrel chested/wide shouldered monster, if i can see my ribs, I'm not obese)
//Was a fatboy in the Air Force. The mandatory PT was started just before I seperated, but I know about the whole work 12 hours from 8pm to 8am, and then be expected to show up all day for "other" duties. They do that shiat during the day because dayshift never did crap in my job, ALL production was Swings/Mids. I'd love to see some of those assholes keep up with me at night, much less do actual sports from midnight to 7am.
///If I dieted and worked out, my work performance went down the shiatter, no energy. I didn't metabolize fat on my body well, even after being in "good" habits for 6months +. I made weight just before they stopped counting it, got my promotion and back pay, then put the weight back on, knowing I'd seperate at 6years.
////Not the whole reason I quit. I've got a severe issue with being required to do volunteer work on top of it all. Didn't I defend the USA n shiat voluntarily? EPR's were about how cute you were if you were female(even fugly chicks get BTZ, so the cute part is optional, they ALL are prefered, damned GPS), or how much ass you kissed if you were a man. fark how good of a worker you actually were.
/rants

omeganuepsilon: I'm arguing the idiotic assheads that claim skinny is 100% the result of willpower/lifestyle.

THIS.

Should I be berating people for not quitting smoking? It's so easy, I haven't smoked a cigarette, well, ever! Clearly if you smoke it's because you have less willpower than me.

Belltower: omeganuepsilon: I'm arguing the idiotic assheads that claim skinny is 100% the result of willpower/lifestyle.

THIS.

Should I be berating people for not quitting smoking? It's so easy, I haven't smoked a cigarette, well, ever! Clearly if you smoke it's because you have less willpower than me.

Some can, I'll not deny that. Some people that are large and not so in charge have only behavioral problems, but can that be rectified by will alone? How about ADHD? Schizophrenia? Brain Tumors? OCD?

Can I blame those who think it's within everyon's will and will alone? Is it taught cult? Mental deficiency?

Purity fundamentalists, though I'll wager some of them are also just flamers, and even fat.

Whatever the case, I can't blame them. It may or may not be their fault, but I do reserve the right to inform them that they're being ignorant dicks, and hope that is the case and they can rectify the problem. If they're stupid, there's no salvation.

I didn't even bring up that willpower or lack thereof can be a completely psychological thing, blocked or enabled for a multitude of reasons. Abuse, chemical imbalance, accident, disease, and genetics. TADA Easiest way to shoot them down, but I passed it up and responded directly to their falsehoods. My apologies for not starting with that one.

/smokes
//drinks alcohol
///eats good food

Mostly, because I'd rather enjoy life. I've only got the one...What good does it do on a shelf gathering dust along with those rice cakes and naivE water(which is only consumed in dire need during a hangover) that some people insist are the only wholesome foods on this planet.

They're pissy that we're getting more out of life, and are a bit jealous, imo. Every time I see these pent up anal retentive people scold someone for their "bad" habits(whether they're result of will, or not) are when those scolded are truly enjoying life.

Go be dull elsewhere, party crasher.

/only slightly off topic
//Obesity(actual, not some trendy definition being "Not skin and bones"), morbid or otherwise is a sad condition. I support all science testing done to help fight it, as long as the things don't get prescribed to starlets who think they look a bit pudgy.

There used to be a product on the market that claimed to help people lose weight without dieting, etc, and a bunch of people died because of heart problems. I can't remember the name of it, but somebody got sued. Repeatedly. It farked with the metabolism of a person's body--heated them up so badly that their organs went all haywire.

Moonfisher: The best part of that page was the link to this (new window) little gem on the side, about a mom wanting to score poon for her tard kid.

Check the main page.

You don't take the pills, you scatter them out on the floor three times a day then pick them up one at a time.

FROGSTOMPER: You don't take the pills, you scatter them out on the floor three times a day then pick them up one at a time.

That is a strangely interesting thought.

Lose weight without exercising! USA USA USA!!!!

This is not a repeat of every fad diet advertised.

Want to lose weight? Spend less time at the kitchen table and more time in the gym.

I have a better idea.