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(Sydney Morning Herald)   Trucking company owner builds 747-400 airliner simulator in his warehouse that rivals $60 million commerical versions. Wins Guinness world record for it, and donates all hire fees to charity   (smh.com.au) divider line 64
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2009-03-13 12:31:37 AM
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2009-03-13 01:14:06 AM
FTA: Every year, Sheil and scores of other simulator enthusiasts from countries including Britain, Scotland, USA and Austria...

Not falling for this dumb trick again, it's Australia, the place with kangaroos and convicts. Not the Hitler place.
 
2009-03-13 02:40:46 AM
global wombats: Not the Hitler place.

No need to Godwin the thread. You could always call it the "Josef Fritz" country.

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2009-03-13 07:36:39 AM
FTA; Every year, Sheil and scores of other simulator enthusiasts from countries including Britain, Scotland, USA and Austria, participate in an event called Worldflight (video here) to raise money for the RFDS.

Fail.
 
2009-03-13 07:56:34 AM
Sweet - I'm building a simulator for a trucking parts company. You can almost feel the packing tape on those boxes - sometimes I forget that I'm not shipping real truck parts.
 
2009-03-13 07:59:42 AM
Not exactly fair to compare it to the 60million versions considering a lot of it is donated. Also it probably isn't mounted on pneumatic pistons to simulate the movement of the plane.
 
2009-03-13 08:00:56 AM
abigsmurf: Not exactly fair to compare it to the 60million versions considering a lot of it is donated. Also it probably isn't mounted on pneumatic pistons to simulate the movement of the plane.

It is able to mimic real-world weather conditions in any country with startling accuracy, and the hydraulics system means Sheil can feel every bump.
 
2009-03-13 08:03:23 AM
FTFA: Participants go to their nearest flight simulator - Sheil hosts about 15 people, some from overseas - and take part in a round-the-world-flight, taking legs in shifts for an entire week.

"They're here for the whole week and they'll be rostered on at certain times of the day to fly," he said.

"It's all done in real-world conditions - Qantas sponsors us and they provide airline food for a week."




It's almost like Qantas doesn't want them back... a week of airline food? What's it... a diet camp? Bleah.
 
2009-03-13 08:05:53 AM
Aside from the daunting task of mastering the 500 brazilian flight controls, this looks like a great deal of fun, and it's obvious this guy is having the time of his life while raising some cash for charity at the same time. Good on him.
 
2009-03-13 08:07:06 AM
What we really need are realistic simulators to teach people to drive, handle skids, etc. But this is still cool.
 
2009-03-13 08:07:33 AM
Ya, Airplane Thread!!!
RC Plane (new window)
 
2009-03-13 08:07:49 AM
Yugoboy: It's almost like Qantas doesn't want them back... a week of airline food? What's it... a diet camp? Bleah.

Well, it's better than the average Qantas experience simulation, where they recreate a realistic fiery inferno instantly killing everyone inside.
 
2009-03-13 08:13:06 AM
Sign me up for a one hour lesson. And hurry up, I've got a plane to catch.

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2009-03-13 08:15:17 AM
Maybe some nice young men from Saudi Arabia can come and try it out.
 
zz9
2009-03-13 08:16:10 AM
Desmo: Sign me up for a one hour lesson. And hurry up, I've got a plane to catch.

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And no need to cover all that "Landing" stuff....
 
2009-03-13 08:17:47 AM
Desmo: Sign me up for a one hour lesson. And hurry up, I've got a plane to catch.



High Five!

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2009-03-13 08:19:08 AM
Participants go to their nearest flight simulator - Sheil hosts about 15 people, some from overseas - and take part in a round-the-world-flight, taking legs in shifts for an entire week.


nerds....
 
2009-03-13 08:19:32 AM
Man, it's great to see somebody doing what he really loves. I was having a pretty shiatty morning up to now, but this cheered me right up.
 
2009-03-13 08:19:38 AM
deltabourne: It is able to mimic real-world weather conditions in any country with startling accuracy, and the hydraulics system means Sheil can feel every bump.

Meh, it's a long article where no paragraphs seem to be more than 2 sentences long. Easy to miss something.
 
2009-03-13 08:26:02 AM
WANT


Can this guy build a driving simulator to teach people how to drive on the I-495 Capitol Beltway?


////Damn my morning commutes suck something fierce.
////want to slashie some tires
 
2009-03-13 08:26:57 AM
This guy faps to the dream he will one day be on a plane, the pilots will pass out, and a flight attendant runs back yelling, "does anyone know how to fly this thing".
 
2009-03-13 08:32:34 AM
ttintagel: Man, it's great to see somebody doing what he really loves. I was having a pretty shiatty morning up to now, but this cheered me right up.

Not to rain on your parade, but if he was doing what he loves wouldn't he be a 747 pilot?
 
2009-03-13 08:34:05 AM
Sheil is the top gun in the surreal world of flight simulator enthusiasts, where virtual pilots join virtual airlines, fly virtual routes and are assisted by virtual air traffic controllers.

Sounds a little geeky, but cool in a way. At least you don't have to pack Kippie bags and go through TSA checkpoints.
 
2009-03-13 08:36:09 AM
zuce: ttintagel: Man, it's great to see somebody doing what he really loves. I was having a pretty shiatty morning up to now, but this cheered me right up.

Not to rain on your parade, but if he was doing what he loves wouldn't he be a 747 pilot?


Maybe he knows he wouldn't be a good real pilot. Or maybe the money's better in trucking. Doing what you love doesn't necessarily mean it's your day job.

In fact, I think it's even a bit cooler that he's doing what he loves WITHOUT the material rewards he'd receive for it if it was his profession.
 
2009-03-13 08:39:51 AM
zuce: This guy faps to the dream he will one day be on a plane, the pilots will pass out, and a flight attendant runs back yelling, "does anyone know how to fly this thing".

FTFA: Sheil is a veteran real-world pilot and owns a Beechcraft Baron B58. He said he preferred flying a real plane but enjoyed the simulator because there were no limitations.

Granted he's not exactly an airline pilot, but he's no armchair pilot either. On the other hand... I have entertained the thoughts that you mentioned.

/didn't fap to it...
//I swear!
 
2009-03-13 08:41:43 AM
zuce: ttintagel: Man, it's great to see somebody doing what he really loves. I was having a pretty shiatty morning up to now, but this cheered me right up.

Not to rain on your parade, but if he was doing what he loves wouldn't he be a 747 pilot?


In TFA, he mentions that the simulator offers much more freedom to try out daring, bizarre or dangerous flight maneuvers (e.g. inverting the 747) than would its real-world equivalent. Simulator means no pressure, no tightly-fixed schedule, no health and security checks. Fly piss-drunk if you like. Play Airbus chicken. Buzz mountains. I can understand it. :)
 
2009-03-13 08:42:43 AM
zuce: Not to rain on your parade, but if he was doing what he loves wouldn't he be a 747 pilot?

I'd say it depends. I like remote controlled planes but I don't like flight simulators. He might like doing it as a hobby but if he had to do it full time he might think it sucked ass.

Plus, the risk is a lot higher in an actual plane.
 
2009-03-13 08:43:11 AM
zuce: This guy faps to the dream he will one day be on a plane, the pilots will pass out, and a flight attendant runs back yelling, "does anyone know how to fly this thing".

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Oh, yeah. F-15's, F-16's, A-10 Warthogs, I've flown all that shiat.
 
2009-03-13 08:53:54 AM
zuce: ttintagel: Man, it's great to see somebody doing what he really loves. I was having a pretty shiatty morning up to now, but this cheered me right up.

Not to rain on your parade, but if he was doing what he loves wouldn't he be a 747 pilot?


No way. Simulators are for people who want the feeling of flying the real thing, but still have the opportunity to do a loop-d-loop. Who wants the responsibility of passengers? I gotta see if this baby can fly upside-down 20 feet from the ground.
 
2009-03-13 08:54:22 AM
zuce: This guy faps to the dream he will one day be on a plane, the pilots will pass out, and a flight attendant runs back yelling, "does anyone know how to fly this thing".

Brodie: My cousin Walter jerked off in public once. True story. He was on this plane to New Mexico when all of a sudden, the hydraulics went. The plane starts spinning around, going out of control, so he figures it's all over and whips it out and starts beating it right there. So all the other passengers take a cue from him and they start whipping it out and beating like mad! So all the passengers are beating off, plummeting to their certain doom, when all of the sudden, the hydraulics kick back in. The plane rights itself and they land safely, and everyone puts their penises or, whatever, you know, away and deboard. No one mentions the phenomenon to anyone else.
Gil Hicks: Well, did he cum, or what?
Brodie: Jesus Christ, man! There's just some things you don't talk about in public!
 
2009-03-13 08:54:30 AM
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A home made flight simulator, what could possibly go wrong?
 
2009-03-13 09:01:01 AM
...and are assisted by virtual air traffic controllers.

LOL
 
2009-03-13 09:08:18 AM
pharkqueue: Maybe some nice young men from Saudi Arabia Iraq can come and try it out.

/Sorry. Pet peeve...
 
2009-03-13 09:18:48 AM
What simulator costs $60M?
 
2009-03-13 09:27:40 AM
"If we hit a mountain, everything just goes red, and we hit the reset button."

Can this guy build a simulator for the arseholes on WS? Maybe the next time they think to leverage bad investments with equally bad investments, they can run a sim and see the enormity of their inability to invest soundly...And hit reset.
 
2009-03-13 09:32:24 AM
PoopStain: zuce: This guy faps to the dream he will one day be on a plane, the pilots will pass out, and a flight attendant runs back yelling, "does anyone know how to fly this thing".

Brodie: My cousin Walter jerked off in public once. True story. He was on this plane to New Mexico when all of a sudden, the hydraulics went. The plane starts spinning around, going out of control, so he figures it's all over and whips it out and starts beating it right there. So all the other passengers take a cue from him and they start whipping it out and beating like mad! So all the passengers are beating off, plummeting to their certain doom, when all of the sudden, the hydraulics kick back in. The plane rights itself and they land safely, and everyone puts their penises or, whatever, you know, away and deboard. No one mentions the phenomenon to anyone else.
Gil Hicks: Well, did he cum, or what?
Brodie: Jesus Christ, man! There's just some things you don't talk about in public!


Which Kevin Smith movie is that? I'm thinking Mallrats, but it's been so long since I've seen any of them that I can't remember.
 
2009-03-13 09:35:01 AM
bdubya: "If we hit a mountain, everything just goes red, and we hit the reset button."

Can this guy build a simulator for the arseholes on WS? Maybe the next time they think to leverage bad investments with equally bad investments, they can run a sim and see the enormity of their inability to invest soundly...And hit reset.


Simulating flight is easy: Flight is bound by physics that have been well understood for quite a long time.

The economy, or even the behavior of a fairly small part of it, is not understood as well.

Simulating markets is like simulating weather (an apt analogy since both have complex inputs and interactions not totally understood): Starting from some known conditions, you can predict reasonably accurately for a short time frame, but past that you are basically just guessing. Ever wondered why in the last 30 years, with improvements in monitoring, that weather forecasts have only gotten a little more accurate? It's a complex system, like Wall Street.
 
2009-03-13 09:44:27 AM
What I don't understand is why anyone would want to simulate a commercial passenger flight. That has to be one of the most boring jobs on the planet. Probably right up there with driving a shipping truck.

I mean I could see doing it a few times for fun but after that, meh. Definitely not worth building a simulator like that. I mean if you're going to put that kind of effort into it then build a fighter cockpit or something.
 
2009-03-13 09:49:42 AM
Can't say I understand this sort of interest in simulating real life - flight simulators, hyper-realistic medal of honour style games, virtual platoons getting together online.

300 000 grand will buy a heck of a nice airplane - if it's a big enough of a parts supply company it could generate revenue, could do some real charity (there are many charity air-taxi services). And so what if you can do a roll in a simulated 747.. when you push the envelope on a simulator it never really answers the question if could you do it in real life, and it get's boring real fast
 
2009-03-13 09:53:06 AM
vodka: What I don't understand is why anyone would want to simulate a commercial passenger flight. That has to be one of the most boring jobs on the planet. Probably right up there with driving a shipping truck.

I mean I could see doing it a few times for fun but after that, meh. Definitely not worth building a simulator like that. I mean if you're going to put that kind of effort into it then build a fighter cockpit or something.


Don't make fun of flightsimmers, and we won't make fun of your LARP.
 
2009-03-13 09:54:38 AM
global wombats: FTA: Every year, Sheil and scores of other simulator enthusiasts from countries including Britain, Scotland, USA and Austria...

Not falling for this dumb trick again, it's Australia, the place with kangaroos and convicts. Not the Hitler place.


The guys last name is Sheil:

Sheil Hitler!!
 
2009-03-13 09:56:32 AM
summersa74: Don't make fun of flightsimmers, and we won't make fun of your LARP.

Gaywads, Dorkwads Sign Historic Wad Accord

/I think the furries might want in
 
2009-03-13 09:56:37 AM
vodka: What I don't understand is why anyone would want to simulate a commercial passenger flight. That has to be one of the most boring jobs on the planet. Probably right up there with driving a shipping truck.

I mean I could see doing it a few times for fun but after that, meh. Definitely not worth building a simulator like that. I mean if you're going to put that kind of effort into it then build a fighter cockpit or something.


Heres one slightly more boring then driving a shipping truck:

Desert Bus (new window)
 
2009-03-13 09:56:56 AM
i hope quantas brings chicken and fish
 
2009-03-13 10:28:42 AM
minoridiot: What simulator costs $60M?

Anything built by Lockheed Martin.
 
2009-03-13 10:30:11 AM
Wait til his boss finds out what he's done with all their servers.

/I want one, possibly two
//yeah I know he owns the joint
///rafter high club?
 
2009-03-13 10:40:09 AM
This is pretty impressive. I'd love to know more of the details behind what went into building and programming it.
 
2009-03-13 10:45:56 AM
Shakespeare's Monkey: A home made flight simulator, what could possibly go wrong?

Nicely done. Took two looks at that to see what you did there.
 
2009-03-13 11:08:22 AM
Simulators work...

Girl Wonder and I are sponsored by SIMBIN for our racing. We use the GTR2/GTR Evolution engine and track packs to practice on tracks we have not been to, or are on our regular rotation during the season.

We use a special physics model in the game that simulates our F1 sidecar and the GSX-R 1000 engine that powers it. I can try out different final drive combinations (sprocket combinations)in the simulator on VR tracks to make sure I have the gearing set correctly for each track before we ever get there. If a track is more biased with left turns VS right turns I can try suspension geometry/ride height/preload/compression/rebound changes in the simulator and save myself hours of downtime at the track playing guesswork.

What do we use at home for this VR work? A full size mock up of a F1 sidecar using a real LCR F1 carbon/kevlar body sitting on a base I fabricated that has true hydraulic brakes, a real throttle, a true toe shifter, a real clutch, and true (strong) force feedback steering. (guts from a Logitech MOMO wheel). There are no rams to simulate movement, but between the vibration in the handlebars to simulate chatter under braking when the wheels lock, and the 'loseness' of pushing the front end in a corner, it's as close as you can get to being in the cockpit of the real thing. It's a really useful tool for us.

www.badcatracing.com

www.badcatracing.com

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2009-03-13 11:25:50 AM
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/by the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
 
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