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2009-03-05 04:26:27 PM
What's the difference between Roy Williams and Texas Stadium? Texas Stadium covered something.
 
2009-03-05 05:03:11 PM
The basketball coach? What was he doing with the Cowboys?
 
2009-03-05 05:24:02 PM
Roy Williams? Horse-tackle guy? The one who can't even cover his mouth when he yawns?

Dallas fans, your team is way better off without him. Waaaaaaaaay.

/I wish the yawn bit was mine. Still good, no?
 
2009-03-05 05:42:19 PM
UNC_Samurai: What's the difference between Roy Williams and Texas Stadium? Texas Stadium covered something.

Kiribub: Roy Williams? Horse-tackle guy? The one who can't even cover his mouth when he yawns?

Dallas fans, your team is way better off without him. Waaaaaaaaay.

/I wish the yawn bit was mine. Still good, no?


Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

You could slide Antrel Rolle into a CB slot, put Williams into their FS spot, and improve the Cardinals secondary.
 
2009-03-05 06:58:38 PM
Only a $1m savings in cap space? Wow. I know safeties are cheap, but are you really going to fill that space with less than $1m and get comparable production?
 
2009-03-05 07:00:58 PM
god i hope the patriots take him....that is one weakness they could fill quite easily right now
 
2009-03-05 07:08:41 PM
if you could sign him cheap he would probably develop into a really good OLB but some team will overpay him to play safety. He set the league on fire when he first started but his coverage skills just arent that great IMHO.
 
2009-03-05 07:09:31 PM
We University of Texas fans know him as "Evil Roy" as opposed to the good Roy Williams.
 
2009-03-05 07:12:45 PM
Deadhouseplants: You could slide Antrel Rolle into a CB slot, put Williams into their FS spot, and improve the Cardinals secondary.

Um, actually they moved Rolle to the FS spot from CB. This was his first season starting there. He'll be fine. Replace Fransesco, if you want to improve that secondary.
 
2009-03-05 07:14:16 PM
Deadhouseplants: Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

The Dallas Cowboys, for one.
 
2009-03-05 07:29:39 PM
When the raging sea conspires an armor
And her sudden and gargantuan
Currents breed tiny monsters,
True fishing is dead.

Awkward instant
And the first NFL Player is jettisoned,
Legs furiously pumping
Their stiff green gallop,
And head bobs up
Poise
Delicate
Pause
Consent
In mute nostril agony
Carefully refined
And sealed over.

--jim morrison redacted
 
2009-03-05 07:31:47 PM
chechcal: Deadhouseplants: Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

The Dallas Cowboys, for one.


you take your dadburn logic and you just get the hell out of here. Fark has no place for ya...NOW GIT!

JC
 
2009-03-05 07:32:44 PM
Maud Dib: We University of Texas fans know him as "Evil Roy" as opposed to the good Roy Williams.

The flying tackle of 2001... :(

i229.photobucket.com

/Simms still sucks
 
2009-03-05 07:41:19 PM
bhcompy: Only a $1m savings in cap space? Wow. I know safeties are cheap, but are you really going to fill that space with less than $1m and get comparable production?

Only $1 million this year, but more than that in future years. The savings this year is because they have to write off some piece of that $11 million signing bonus, and that amount, whatever it is, is about $1 million less than his 2009 salary. In 2010 and beyond, there's no more bonus to amortize and no salary. But in the short term, you're right; they'll struggle to fill the position unless they're already well under the cap (which I haven't looked up).

Williams is expendable because he's basically the same player as Ken Hamlin: big hitter, not so good in coverage. You can survive with one of those guys at safety, but not when both of your safeties are like that. So the more expensive one has to go.
 
2009-03-05 07:49:29 PM
Seattle needs a DB because Kelly Jennings SUCKS!
 
2009-03-05 07:50:01 PM
chechcal: Deadhouseplants: Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

The Dallas Cowboys, for one.


LOL!
 
2009-03-05 07:57:22 PM
mentallo69: Seattle needs a DB because Kelly Jennings SUCKS!

Are you proposing that the team sign a 220-pound safety with no cover skills to replace its nickel cornerback?

Jennings does suck and might even be released just three years after being a first-round pick, but what does this have to do with Roy Williams?
 
2009-03-05 08:04:54 PM
Deadhouseplants:

You could slide Antrel Rolle into a CB slot, put Williams into their FS spot, and improve the Cardinals secondary.


Adrian Wilson is a better version of Roy Williams
 
2009-03-05 08:28:58 PM
Goodbye Roy. There were some good times had. Thanks for the memories.
 
2009-03-05 08:34:26 PM
Super Chronic: mentallo69: Seattle needs a DB because Kelly Jennings SUCKS!

Are you proposing that the team sign a 220-pound safety with no cover skills to replace its nickel cornerback?

Jennings does suck and might even be released just three years after being a first-round pick, but what does this have to do with Roy Williams?


Thank you Chronic for typing that so I don't have to.

Actually I think the Seahawks were interviewing a free agent safety the other day. I wonder if they'd be interested.
 
2009-03-05 08:39:49 PM
Can't say I'll miss the lack of coverage or the constant horse-collar tackles.
 
2009-03-05 08:52:43 PM
ramell: Maud Dib: We University of Texas fans know him as "Evil Roy" as opposed to the good Roy Williams.

The flying tackle of 2001... :(



/Simms still sucks


David Pollack just called Roy Williams a puss.
 
2009-03-05 09:05:22 PM
I wish I could have played pro sports and had an infraction named after me.

"And here comes the flag. He got caught with a Sigmund tackle. That'll be a fine."

/sigh
 
2009-03-05 09:12:08 PM
Deadhouseplants: Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

You could slide Antrel Rolle into a CB slot, put Williams into their FS spot, and improve the Cardinals secondary.


Crack kills.

/will miss watching Santana Moss running by him fifteen times a game
 
2009-03-05 09:31:21 PM
He's actually a pretty good SS, but I wouldn't EVER put him in FS. Heck, I kinda want to see him in eagles green, same skill set as BDawk at this point.

/can't replace a bdawk though
 
2009-03-05 09:33:07 PM
chechcal: Deadhouseplants: Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

The Dallas Cowboys, for one.


They stopped being a team when Jessica Simpson got more news coverage than the team. Add on the fact that they just got rid of their two best players, expect a 3 and 13 season.
 
2009-03-05 09:44:22 PM
the biggest redneck here: Deadhouseplants: Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

You could slide Antrel Rolle into a CB slot, put Williams into their FS spot, and improve the Cardinals secondary.

Crack kills.

/will miss watching Santana Moss running by him fifteen times a game


You are aware he's a safety right? You are aware what a safety does, right? You know the difference between a cornerback and a safety, right?

A safety isn't meant to cover a speed receiver, that's a cornerback's role. A safety is to pick up the slack of the linebackers, and nail the hell out of anyone who busts past into the secondary. The main concern for a safety isn't coverage, but tackling skill. Cornerbacks need coverage skills, and not really tackling skill...i.e. Deion Sanders. My god he was the worst tackler on the earth.

The perfect example of a safety/cornerback is Ronnie Lott. Lott started off as a cornerback, but he sucked at coverage, but could hit the soul out of a brick wall. So he was moved into a safety role and became a hall of famer. As a matter of fact, if you look at his stats, compare them to Williams, Williams isn't that far off from Lott's tackling numbers.
 
2009-03-05 09:47:13 PM
Good frickin riddance. While most people blame Romo and the fumble/hold for the Seattle playoff loss I blame this sucktard and his inability to cover Jeramy farkin Stevens. That was the night I tossed his jersey. He has awful coverage skills. Do us all a favor, Roy. Eat a biscuit and become a linebacker.

/disgruntled Cowboy fan
//loved me some TO
///slashes make me gruntled
 
2009-03-05 09:57:18 PM
Deadhouseplants, cut back on the homerism. I've been bleeding Columbia blue and silver for 36 years on this earth but would never think of comparing Williams to Lott. Absolutely ridiculous. The guy is a waste in this defense and has been a problem for 3 years now. Like most fans I have been praying for this. Unlike most I wanted to keep TO. Let's agree to disagree on Roy and hope for a better season next year.
 
2009-03-05 10:02:52 PM
Deadhouseplants: As a matter of fact, if you look at his stats, compare them to Williams, Williams isn't that far off from Lott's tackling numbers.

Did you... just... I mean... Jesus. There isn't a drug on earth that can make a person type shiat like that, must be complete insanity.
 
2009-03-05 10:03:00 PM
Master Metroplex: Can't say I'll miss the lack of coverage or the constant horse-collar tackles.

I'm with ya, dude. I'll be glad to shed all of the penalties he earned us. L8R D00D

I prefer Longhorn Roy Williams anyway.


/hook em
 
2009-03-05 10:17:08 PM
Deadhouseplants: The perfect example of a safety/cornerback is Ronnie Lott. Lott started off as a cornerback, but he sucked at coverage, but could hit the soul out of a brick wall.

If Lott sucked at coverage, Williams is a farking super-massive black hole at coverage.
 
2009-03-05 10:18:15 PM
Deadhouseplants: You are aware he's a safety right? You are aware what a safety does, right? You know the difference between a cornerback and a safety, right?

A cornerback could cover a crappy TE. Even a BAD cornerback could cover a crappy TE.

Actually, MOST SAFETIES could cover a crappy TE.
 
2009-03-05 10:44:00 PM
Deadhouseplants:
You are aware he's a safety right? You are aware what a safety does, right? You know the difference between a cornerback and a safety, right?

A safety isn't meant to cover a speed receiver, that's a cornerback's role. A safety is to pick up the slack of the linebackers, and nail the hell out of anyone who busts past into the secondary. The main concern for a safety isn't coverage, but tackling skill. Cornerbacks need coverage skills, and not really tackling skill...i.e. Deion Sanders. My god he was the worst tackler on the earth.

The perfect example of a safety/cornerback is Ronnie Lott. Lott started off as a cornerback, but he sucked at coverage, but could hit the soul out of a brick wall. So he was moved into a safety role and became a hall of famer. As a matter of fact, if you look at his stats, compare them to Williams, Williams isn't that far off from Lott's tackling numbers.


You're aware that the safety is also the last guy back, so that when someone runs by him, he's kind of farked? You're aware that the safety is called "safety" for a reason, as in not letting people get behind him?

And 4th best safety? What are you on? Sharper, Reed, Polamalu, Dawkins, Landry, Bell...there's 6 I'd take in a heartbeat over Williams. The only memorable thing he's ever done is get a rule named after him.
 
2009-03-05 11:05:00 PM
eazye1334: The only memorable thing he's ever done is get a rule named after him.

And it doesn't even carry his name.

The most likely way to horsecollar a runner? Have him run by you, then catch up when he slows slightly because of other defenders getting in his way. Pathetic.
 
2009-03-05 11:16:41 PM
Deadhouseplants: They stopped being a team when Jessica Simpson got more news coverage than the team. Add on the fact that they just got rid of their two best players, expect a 3 and 13 season.

Someone started drinking early this evening.

Simpson has nothing to do with the team.

And their two best players? Roy Williams had his moments, but was far from one of the best on the defense, let alone the team.

And as far as TO, there's no denying he was good. But you have to remember that the Dallas fans were only tolerating him for his production as long as he wasn't causing crap. And this past season, he finally pushed the crap-to-tolerance ratio past what was acceptable. I can't say that I won't miss TO, but it seems to have been needed to help straighten things out in the locker room.
 
2009-03-05 11:33:01 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb, here:

TO and Roy to the Bears, please.

kthxbai
 
2009-03-06 12:13:56 AM
puffy999: Deadhouseplants: You are aware he's a safety right? You are aware what a safety does, right? You know the difference between a cornerback and a safety, right?

A cornerback could cover a crappy TE. Even a BAD cornerback could cover a crappy TE.

Actually, MOST SAFETIES could cover a crappy TE.


Actually, most Strong Safeties have difficulties covering TEs.....there is usually a considerable height (and reach) difference for one thing. Jason Witten makes a damn good living burning Safeties, as do many TEs in the NFL today.

As for RW (#38)...in 2007 Big D allowed a whopping TWO TDs by TEs. All season. One by Shockey, one by Cooley. They only allowed 19 passing TDs all season, in spite of holding leads going into the 4th quarter in many games (finished at 13-3 lest we forget). For all the grief they got for having a poor secondary, the stats just don't bear that out.

As for coverage in general, the fact is that the 'Boys had already traded their biggest liability in the secondary several days ago for Kitna!
 
2009-03-06 12:14:06 AM
Deadhouseplants: they just got rid of their two best players, expect a 3 and 13 season.

Everyone let you have it (deservedly) for the Lott comment, so I'll take this one.

Witten and Ware are the team's two best players. MBIII is a close 3rd. To say the Cowboys are lost in the wilderness after losing TO and Roy Williams is pure insanity- but I guess that point has already been established.
 
2009-03-06 12:29:21 AM
the bomb dot com: Deadhouseplants: they just got rid of their two best players, expect a 3 and 13 season.

Everyone let you have it (deservedly) for the Lott comment, so I'll take this one.

Witten and Ware are the team's two best players. MBIII is a close 3rd. To say the Cowboys are lost in the wilderness after losing TO and Roy Williams is pure insanity- but I guess that point has already been established.


When a TE is your best player and your QB isn't as good as fans make him out to be, it's not a good thing. I won't say 3 and 13, but playoffs? Don't think so.

Anyways, hows about TO back in Philly? That will be a laugh
 
2009-03-06 02:54:48 AM
bhcompy: the bomb dot com: Deadhouseplants: they just got rid of their two best players, expect a 3 and 13 season.

Everyone let you have it (deservedly) for the Lott comment, so I'll take this one.

Witten and Ware are the team's two best players. MBIII is a close 3rd. To say the Cowboys are lost in the wilderness after losing TO and Roy Williams is pure insanity- but I guess that point has already been established.

When a TE is your best player and your QB isn't as good as fans make him out to be, it's not a good thing. I won't say 3 and 13, but playoffs? Don't think so.

Anyways, hows about TO back in Philly? That will be a laugh




Who said anything about playoffs, PLAYOFFS!!!?!
 
2009-03-06 08:55:41 AM
eazye1334: Deadhouseplants:
You are aware he's a safety right? You are aware what a safety does, right? You know the difference between a cornerback and a safety, right?

A safety isn't meant to cover a speed receiver, that's a cornerback's role. A safety is to pick up the slack of the linebackers, and nail the hell out of anyone who busts past into the secondary. The main concern for a safety isn't coverage, but tackling skill. Cornerbacks need coverage skills, and not really tackling skill...i.e. Deion Sanders. My god he was the worst tackler on the earth.

The perfect example of a safety/cornerback is Ronnie Lott. Lott started off as a cornerback, but he sucked at coverage, but could hit the soul out of a brick wall. So he was moved into a safety role and became a hall of famer. As a matter of fact, if you look at his stats, compare them to Williams, Williams isn't that far off from Lott's tackling numbers.

You're aware that the safety is also the last guy back, so that when someone runs by him, he's kind of farked? You're aware that the safety is called "safety" for a reason, as in not letting people get behind him?

And 4th best safety? What are you on? Sharper, Reed, Polamalu, Dawkins, Landry, Bell...there's 6 I'd take in a heartbeat over Williams. The only memorable thing he's ever done is get a rule named after him.


This!

To be honest, I'd sign Roy Williams to my team... but I'd make him a nickle LB... faster than most LBs, so he'll be decent at coverage... can hit like a LB... just don't know if he could blitz or shed blocks...
 
2009-03-06 09:58:43 AM
Deadhouseplants: UNC_Samurai: What's the difference between Roy Williams and Texas Stadium? Texas Stadium covered something.

Kiribub: Roy Williams? Horse-tackle guy? The one who can't even cover his mouth when he yawns?

Dallas fans, your team is way better off without him. Waaaaaaaaay.

/I wish the yawn bit was mine. Still good, no?

Um, the guy was probably the fourth best safety in the whole game. Yeah, he's no Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, but name one team who wouldn't want this guy in their secondary.

You could slide Antrel Rolle into a CB slot, put Williams into their FS spot, and improve the Cardinals secondary.


The Titans. We can do without the 3 15-yard back-breaking penalties per game, thanks.
 
2009-03-06 10:41:55 AM
Linux_Yes: When the raging sea conspires an armor
And her sudden and gargantuan
Currents breed tiny monsters,
True fishing is dead.

Awkward instant
And the first NFL Player is jettisoned,
Legs furiously pumping
Their stiff green gallop,
And head bobs up
Poise
Delicate
Pause
Consent
In mute nostril agony
Carefully refined
And sealed over.

--jim morrison redacted


That meme won't float.
 
2009-03-06 12:58:03 PM
bhcompy: When a TE is your best player and your QB isn't as good as fans make him out to be, it's not a good thing. I won't say 3 and 13, but playoffs? Don't think so.

Witten is one of the best players because he's an exemplary TE.

And Romo (pops) is probably one of the top 5 QBs in the league. I understand that if you hate the Cowboys, you're eager to say he sucks, but his numbers just don't reflect that. Here. Compare to one of fark's favorites. (pops) Just look at the numbers side-by-side.

Also, I seriously doubt that Jerry Jones is done reconfiguring the roster. I think it's way too early to start predicting what next season is going to be like.
 
2009-03-06 01:03:14 PM
makes Williams a free agent and puts a youthful and still-productive defensive player on the open market.

Bahaha.
 
2009-03-06 01:40:28 PM
I liked roy, He was loosing his edge this year but I wouldnt mind seeing him play for the boys for another year.
Too bad I guess,

Good luck to him where ever he goes
 
2009-03-06 01:49:28 PM
Roy Williams is the best reason why Darren Woodson should be considered for the hall of fame. The moment Darren retired, Roy showed what level of talent he was really at.

I haven't gotten to see him much, but he seems to be a decent analyst as well.
 
2009-03-06 02:01:35 PM
That dude couldn't cover mashed potatoes with gravy.

I tell you he's got no coverage.

Why, he got fired as hotel housekeeper because the sheets kept falling off the beds. No coverage.

If you get into a car wreck with this guy, you'd better hope your insurance policy includes UM, because you know he's got no coverage.
 
2009-03-06 02:57:25 PM
Di Atribe: bhcompy: When a TE is your best player and your QB isn't as good as fans make him out to be, it's not a good thing. I won't say 3 and 13, but playoffs? Don't think so.

Witten is one of the best players because he's an exemplary TE.

And Romo (pops) is probably one of the top 5 QBs in the league. I understand that if you hate the Cowboys, you're eager to say he sucks, but his numbers just don't reflect that. Here. Compare to one of fark's favorites. (pops) Just look at the numbers side-by-side.

Also, I seriously doubt that Jerry Jones is done reconfiguring the roster. I think it's way too early to start predicting what next season is going to be like.


How is what I said Cowboy hate? When your best offensive player is a TE, you're the Kansas City Chefs, and look what that got them.

Also, let me know when Romo performs late in the season or in the playoffs.

Here's a quick list of 5 quarterbacks better than Romo(hence hes not top 5 material):
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Philip Rivers
Drew Brees
Donovan McNabb
 
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