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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Man receives traffic ticket for not wearing a seatbelt nine days before he dies in a accident not wearing a seatbelt   (startribune.com) divider line 139
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2003-01-31 05:21:47 PM
I think a tag is in order here.

Was he related to that other guy who cratered in Hawaii?
 
2003-01-31 05:22:17 PM
What would have been ironic is if he died because he put on his seatbelt and at that very moment he contracted ebola and melted from the inside out.
 
2003-01-31 05:22:22 PM
This kid turned out better results.

 
2003-01-31 05:22:43 PM
Thankfully, he was in a nice big heavy vehicle with lots of metal all around him, making him safe and invincible.

Oh, wait...
 
ndn
2003-01-31 05:22:44 PM
Asimovian:

People who don't use the turn signals piss me off, or the ones that use it for one click and turn it off. OOOOR on the other side, you use your signal and the assfarker behind you speeds up.... I've come to just cut these azzholes off.

Driving in LA (the city) is like driving in a war zone.
 
2003-01-31 05:23:14 PM
If you have Jesus as your co-pilot, you don't NEED a seatbelt. Your lack of faith is embarassing, and you are going to Hell.
 
2003-01-31 05:23:39 PM
Johnc98,

Yeah, I didn't see your post until I'd already written mine. My response?

"I don't know; I'd choose that option over letting them have easy access to my corpse."

I know people who claim they're too uncomfortable as well. There are little add-ons you can buy to solve that problem. There's just no valid excuse.

Not to be unnecessarily morbid, but I can't help but wonder if this guy had a short moment of clarity before he was ejected. "Oops. Damn cop was ri--"
 
2003-01-31 05:24:07 PM
If they want to be stupid and kill themselves why can't they?

Becaues it drives the rest of our insurance premiums up when the insurance companies payout to the idiot's family.
 
2003-01-31 05:24:47 PM
when his truck left the road, vaulted about 150 feet over Hwy. 68, struck a field approach, flew another 40 feet and went over the fence of Minneopa State Park. It then rolled about 130 feet before hitting a tree and catching fire.

Not to mention, he must have been going about 200 mph. Asshat.
 
2003-01-31 05:27:26 PM
01-31-03 05:23:14 PM PhaetonGrim
If you have Jesus as your co-pilot, you don't NEED a seatbelt. Your lack of faith is embarassing, and you are going to Hell.

I don't care if it rains or freezes
As long as I got my plastic Jesus
On the dashboard of my Oldsmobile.

I can drive one hundred miles an hour
When I have that that holy power
On the dasboard of my Oldsmobile.

/famous last words
 
2003-01-31 05:28:06 PM
Here in Wisconsin, there is now pecedent that says if you are in an accident while not wearing a seat belt, your damages can be reduced to the amount they'd have been had you been belted.

Same goes for not wearing helmets and being injured while on a motorcycle, bike, or rollerblades.

Interesting stuff.
 
2003-01-31 05:28:15 PM
Ndn, I'm in LA too, and I know exactly what you mean. I know it seems pointless, but if I see someone who looks like they're going to get in front of me *without* signaling, they get cut off. If the signal goes on, I back off immediately.

Covergirl, because if some moron decides to hit me in a head-on collision, I don't like the idea that I might survive the crash, but be killed by his body traveling through my windshield at 50mph.

Likely? Not really. But do I want someone else to decide they can take that chance for me? Hell no.
 
2003-01-31 05:28:34 PM
01-31-03 05:13:20 PM Asimovian
Does anyone here know ANYBODY who doesn't wear a seatbelt and has a justification for it?

I've never EVER understood how you could be too lazy to wear a seatbelt.

Then again, I've never understood how you could be too lazy to use a turn signal, either.

Discuss.


I don't personally know anyone who has a good reason, but I have heard that people who are grossly overweight have a hard time fitting the seatbelt around them. In danger of being insensitive (hey, this is FARK after all) they're too lazy to exercise therefore, too lazy to be able to put the darn thing on.
 
2003-01-31 05:28:54 PM
Covergirl- Insurance costs for one thing. People who are in accidents while wearing a seatbelt have significantly
reduced medical costs. The more insurance has to pay for an injured person the more we pay for insurance. There are other reasons but I think this is a big one.
*checks spelling to make sure it is correct*
 
ndn
2003-01-31 05:29:31 PM
Asimovian: Agreed 100%
 
2003-01-31 05:29:36 PM
>>>Becaues it drives the rest of our insurance premiums up when the insurance companies payout to the idiot's family.

Good point. But come on cops on street corners writing tickets. . . and they're so efficient too. . . But then again this is the state where cops will stand on the corner with radar guns and walk in front of your car.

I hate that.

*****
 
2003-01-31 05:31:49 PM
Oh, and just so Sudie won't get mad:

Do I appear that uptight?

*reads comment again*

Yeah, I guess I do.
 
2003-01-31 05:32:11 PM
Whats the big deal.. This isn't news.. I'm sure it happens quite frequently. I would think it would be a bit more ironic if he was ticketed and then crashed and died 5 minutes later not wearing a seatbelt.

Its like someone having to go to AA meetings, then dying 5 days later, alcohol related. Big deal.
 
2003-01-31 05:32:29 PM
I would be ironic if the man who died by not wearing his seatbelt was a police officer who had just given out a ticket to a motorist for not wearing a seatbelt.
 
2003-01-31 05:36:15 PM
Woman's house is in a floodplain. Rescue workers come by in a truck as the water is a foot deep to get her out. She says "Oh, no. I know the good lord is going to take care of me. Don't worry about me." So they leave.

Thirty minutes later, the water is four feet deep. She's in the second floor windows when a police rowboat comes by to get her. She says "Oh, no. I know the good lord is going to take care of me. Don't worry about me." So they leave.

An hour later, she's on the roof. The water is up past the second floor windows. A helicopter is dispatched to get her off the roof. She says "Oh, no. I know the good lord is going to take care of me. Don't worry about me." So they leave.

Thirty minutes later, the house collapses and she drowns.

She gets to heaven and stands before the Lord. She angrily asks, "Hey! What happened? I've always been good. I've always attended services. Why didn't you help me?"

God says, "What do you mean? I sent you a truck, a rowboat, and a helicopter."


Sometimes you have to read the signals.
 
2003-01-31 05:38:44 PM
Cops on the street corner writing tickets? Damn, I thought Washington was bad. Now they can pull you over for no seatbelt, it used to be they needed a good excuse first.
 
2003-01-31 05:39:26 PM
My car doesn't have seat belts. I pray I don't get ejected.
 
2003-01-31 05:41:53 PM
About 10 years ago, I was in a Ford Bronco II, it was foggy, i was the passenger. A deer jumped out infront of us, the bronco flipped over twice. I did not have a seat belt on. The first roll thru me into the back, the second roll thru me between the fron two seats. Had I been sitting there with a seat belt on the top right corner of the roof was dented in to where my head would have been. Shortly after this I started wearing seatbelts and have ever since. Seat belts are more for head/back collisions, and to keep you from being thrown around.
 
2003-01-31 05:46:16 PM
It would be ironic if it were a star high school basketball who just crashed his brand new DaimlerChrysler SUV (99% German run now) just moments after he heard the news that the jersey he was wearing was an improper gift making him ineligible for future play.
 
2003-01-31 05:46:23 PM
I remember about 6 years ago, my friend was driving down a 6-lane highway like an asshole, at around 65+ mph (speed limit was 45), zipping all over the place, like one drives where I am from (Miami). In any case, he hit a stopped car at this speed, and we had our seatbelts on. Thank freaking God! The only thing we had to complain about was some stupid pain on our chests.

OK, we had airbags, too.

So my point is, seatbelts are useful.

That's all I have to say about that.
 
2003-01-31 05:46:55 PM

.. vaulted about 150 feet over Hwy ..., struck a field approach, flew another 40 feet and went over the fence ... then rolled about 130 feet before hitting a tree and catching fire.



Sounds pretty much like my love-life.
 
2003-01-31 05:48:13 PM
Before you complain about irony, maybe you should read some Oscar Wilde. You'll realize that there are many different kinds of irony, including verbal and dramatic irony. An example from The Importance of Being Earnest would be ALgy telling Jack that he is acting like a dentist by making false impressions, which is, in fact, what dentists do. Thus, we have verbal irony.

In this situation, we have a person who has been punished for his infraction, then he commits it again, and is again punished but more severely. Not quite irony, but moving somewhat on the right track.
 
2003-01-31 05:49:58 PM
"It then rolled about 130 feet before hitting a tree and catching fire. Bergerson, 29, was pinned underneath."

How the hell did he get pinned underneath if he was thrown from the truck?! Did he fly through the air and then fall in the exact spot where the truck landed?!

Like when Homer tried to ditch Moe's car in the lake, he jumped out, rolled away then back again only to find himself behind the wheel again...

Something about this story doesn't gel...
 
2003-01-31 05:50:17 PM
so my cousin's family was always very strict about it, belts on before ignition. He and his prom date get in the car, buckle up in front of the parents, exit the driveway and immediately take off their seatbelts (don't want to ruffle the pretty duds, y'know). Promptly creamed, I think the crash was even his fault. They got out of it all OK, but I can't even imagine being a parent of kids that stupid. Actually, I can imagine it, and it's beginning to depress me....
 
2003-01-31 05:52:44 PM
The universe was just giving this guy one really big hint. And he ignored it.
 
2003-01-31 05:53:10 PM
"Ironic" is calling something "ironic" and then being told that what you called "ironic" is in fact "stupid", thereby making yourself look "stupid".
 
2003-01-31 05:58:54 PM
Covergirl:

If they want to be stupid and kill themselves why can't they?

One thing I would like to point out about the seatbelt is that it is part of the restraint system which helps keep you in control of the car during extreme maneuvers. If someone is not wearing their seatbelt and has to react in an emergency situation they are going to be far less likely to stay well seated and in control. Why do you think that race car drivers have these intensely complex restraint systems installed? It's because the restraint systems not only help to keep them safe, but keep them in control.
 
2003-01-31 05:58:59 PM
I knew a guy who once masturbated in his parent's van while they were shopping inside the local Big Wheel. Not really ironic or related to the story, but funny non the less.

Fark a Duckk
 
2003-01-31 06:05:57 PM
man. if it's not the police, it's the karma police who make one pay.

/goes to make sacrifice
 
2003-01-31 06:21:38 PM
So... are they going to still make him pay the ticket?
 
2003-01-31 06:27:56 PM
CoverGirl:

Insurance.

Insurance, insurance, insurance.

My wife works in an ED, and it's the unrestrained drivers that not only have the worse injuries (favorite quote from a paramedic friend of ours; "Ain't never cut a dead person out of a seatbelt in 16 years. Cut plenty of dead folks out of trees, though.") but also tend not to have medical insurance.

Resulting in higher medical costs to all of us good doobies who do have insurance - our increased premiums are to pay for the costs of treating the stupid, unrestrained, uninsured road users who our hospitals have to treat.

But maybe that's just me.:)
 
2003-01-31 06:32:23 PM
Milkit- I think mist likely he was thrown partially from the vehicle(upper half hanging out of the window) and it rolled over him that way. I did see one of those wildest crashes caught on tape shows and a guy was tossed from his vehicle and the car happened to land on top of him.
 
2003-01-31 06:33:43 PM
The only person I know who doesn't wear their seatbelt says it's because they heard of someone once being trapped in a car by the belt.
 
2003-01-31 06:36:01 PM
Not wearing your seatbelt because it might kill you is like buying a car because you might when the lottery.
 
2003-01-31 06:46:43 PM


Hi drew, where is my tag?
 
2003-01-31 06:52:41 PM

no boobies for the beltless driver
 
2003-01-31 06:56:43 PM
I think the idea of wearing the seatbelt is excellent. I hate the guvmint telling me I have to for my own good. So, I usually don't wear one. (For the record, I don't think suicide should be illegal, either.)

I did get a wild urge a few years ago, though, and clicked it on before a trip to the folks. A one-time impulse, since I almost never wear it. The car hit some ice, rolled three times, totaled it. I got a bruise where the seatbelt passes over my shoulder and a couple minor glass cuts.

Yeah, I know I'm stupid to not wear it, especially after that. But nobody's paying my medical bills but me. So leave me alone, it's none of your business. And I don't want to hear about it preventing loss of vehicular control -- by the time the seat belt comes into play, I've already lost control of the vehicle.
 
2003-01-31 07:00:25 PM
The real irony was he ate mashed potatos that same day.
 
2003-01-31 07:06:50 PM
Honk:

And I don't want to hear about it preventing loss of vehicular control -- by the time the seat belt comes into play, I've already lost control of the vehicle.

That is complete and utter BS. Are you actually trying to win a Darwin? Good luck.
 
2003-01-31 07:20:07 PM
I submitted an article yesterday I felt was deserving of the IRONIC tag, though it never made it to the main page:

"30 Cats die in fire at animal activist's home"

Something like that anyway, I can't find the article.
 
2003-01-31 07:26:45 PM
...by the time the seat belt comes into play, I've already lost control of the vehicle.

Ridiculous. Take a Bondurant or Skip Barber course sometime and see how well you do without the belt/harness.
 
2003-01-31 07:41:58 PM
Down with irony!

Up with Sarcasm!


which, as we all know is the laughter of the dogs

Well, I usually have a very good reason to not wear a seatbelt. It is called a motorcycle.
 
2003-01-31 07:42:38 PM
There is a pretty bad road around here, and I knew 2 people who got killed on it in a year. One was a young schoolteacher (seatbelt probably wouldn't have saved her, she drove out in front of a semi) and the other was a young man who was with his friend, drinking and acting like an ass. They drove off the road and rolled the car. Driver, who was not belted, flew out of the car and was squashed by it. The passenger, who was belted, had minor injuries.

So now i wear my seatbelt. At least on that road.
 
2003-01-31 07:52:48 PM
Doubledorffer
Yes. But only if he were Polish.
 
2003-01-31 07:54:07 PM
Does anyone else read the threads with the 'ironic' tag just so they can see how many of the posts were about it not being ironic?

/nevermind
 
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