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2009-02-23 12:43:02 AM
Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

It's understandable. Honestly, deep down, anyone with half a brain and a conscience, regardless of their religious convictions, want to beat the fark out of these assholes.

But I like my idea better. I want it to be like when Duff Beer rewarded Barney with the Duffman showing up in the ridiculous truck with hot girls. Only in my version, the girls make out with each other and Duffman is Richard Simmons.
 
2009-02-23 12:45:47 AM
Anarchangel: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

It's understandable. Honestly, deep down, anyone with half a brain and a conscience, regardless of their religious convictions, want to beat the fark out of these assholes.

But I like my idea better. I want it to be like when Duff Beer rewarded Barney with the Duffman showing up in the ridiculous truck with hot girls. Only in my version, the girls make out with each other and Duffman is Richard Simmons.


I think your idea is the only one I've seen with true merit.

That would kick ass. Just a bunch of gays making out all around them, ignoring them.

/Then keep a camera on Fred's crotch to see if he has to cover it up with his notebook.
 
2009-02-23 12:45:56 AM
polarbear1876: Well, if people continue doing this, they will only flee to Fox New.

Fred Phelps thinks God will punish O'Reilly, Reagan, and other righties. He has supported Al Gore and ran as a Democrat in Kansas multiple times. I doubt he and his followers would make their way to Fox News.


They've been on Fox News already
 
2009-02-23 12:46:10 AM
If these are the kind of people that go to heaven, hell cant be that bad.
 
2009-02-23 12:46:45 AM
Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

They're being mean and hateful, and so we hate them back. They use hate and evil to provoke hate and evil in others: Well, they've succeeded. Admirably. The fact that they're "not breaking the law" is beside the point. Just because you have a "right" to say something doesn't mean it's OK to go around saying it. Duh.

For myself, f*ck, I hate everyone.
 
2009-02-23 12:49:05 AM
Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

Because you're an intentionally obtuse tool?
 
2009-02-23 12:49:34 AM
the_chief: The rapture already happened. We are all left behind.

It was really called The Rupture and yes, it already happened July 5th, 1998.
 
2009-02-23 12:51:56 AM
Pastor Ezekiel: Anyone who thinks that Jesus is some kind of limp-wristed hippie had better go back and read the Holy Bible from cover to cover. The Bible tells us that Jesus DOES hate. Only false Christians carry around the crazy notion that Jesus automatically forgives everyone of everything they do. That is just not so. Without sincere repentance, there is no Salvation.

You may not like to hear it, but God thinks that sodomites are "an abomination" and there is nothing to mitigate that position. He also hates witches, liars, non-Christians, atheists and many more. READ THE BIBLE people! Don't take some liberal's word for what it means to be a True Christian!

Old man Phelps has gone soft in his dotage, in my opinion. It's unpatriotic to protest at a soldier's funeral. But he's right about way more things than he's wrong about.


uh, seriously, hate and smiting is soooo Old Testament dude... read your bible. Also, your attempted troll = FAIL
 
2009-02-23 12:52:44 AM
Weisenheimer: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

Because they skirt the law to try to cause pain and suffering to others in an attempt to provoke someone into striking them so they can sue them or their city. What's not to understand?


People are wanting to violence because they are offended. Where does it stop if you allow that type of behavior to happen?
 
2009-02-23 12:54:42 AM
Anarchangel: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

It's understandable. Honestly, deep down, anyone with half a brain and a conscience, regardless of their religious convictions, want to beat the fark out of these assholes. .


Dude, I would love nothing more than to beat the fark out of anywhere between 5 and 10 people during my morning commute. But I don't. And I realize that at some point during that drive, someone is wanting to beat the fark out of me for something too. I'm glad they don't, either.
 
2009-02-23 12:55:24 AM
Karma Chameleon: Weisenheimer: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

Because they skirt the law to try to cause pain and suffering to others in an attempt to provoke someone into striking them so they can sue them or their city. What's not to understand?

People are wanting to violence because they are offended. Where does it stop if you allow that type of behavior to happen?


Psst. Most people "advocating" are actually blowing off steam. People are torn over the importance of the First Amendment and these low levels the Phelps crew has taken them it to.

/but you knew that, troll.
 
2009-02-23 12:56:08 AM
Karma Chameleon: Weisenheimer: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

Because they skirt the law to try to cause pain and suffering to others in an attempt to provoke someone into striking them so they can sue them or their city. What's not to understand?

People are wanting to violence because they are offended. Where does it stop if you allow that type of behavior to happen?


to incite violence, rather
 
2009-02-23 12:57:14 AM
Lenny_da_Hog: .

/but you knew that, troll.


I'll see you in court.
 
2009-02-23 12:57:22 AM
Dahne: What does this even have to do with them? What are they protesting? Westboro's gone from being bigoted assholes to being that retarded kid in third grade who interrupts people's conversations to inform them that he likes crayons.

First person I thought of when I read that:
i179.photobucket.com
 
2009-02-23 12:57:51 AM
Karma Chameleon: Weisenheimer: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

Because they skirt the law to try to cause pain and suffering to others in an attempt to provoke someone into striking them so they can sue them or their city. What's not to understand?

People are wanting to violence because they are offended. Where does it stop if you allow that type of behavior to happen?


It's human nature to defend those being attacked, or to at least attack the attackers. Is that resorting to our baser instincts? Sure. But if more people were to give these people what they deserved (and yes, I do believe these people deserve some natural consequences), then maybe others will think twice before they commit some sign-carrying professional asshattery.
 
2009-02-23 12:58:26 AM
"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." - John 13:34

Fail, Westboro.

Fail, Pastor Ezekiel
 
2009-02-23 12:59:35 AM
SharkTrager: Hard to attract converts when you say that God hates anyone not already in the church.


They're not really interested in converts, it's pretty much a "family" church/business thingie.
 
2009-02-23 01:02:05 AM
Karma Chameleon: Anarchangel: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

It's understandable. Honestly, deep down, anyone with half a brain and a conscience, regardless of their religious convictions, want to beat the fark out of these assholes. .

Dude, I would love nothing more than to beat the fark out of anywhere between 5 and 10 people during my morning commute. But I don't. And I realize that at some point during that drive, someone is wanting to beat the fark out of me for something too. I'm glad they don't, either.


That's why I posted a much better alternative.

Addendum: Richard Simmons on top of the truck, with David Letterman encouraging him to be as unbelievably flamboyant as possible. We're talkin' oiled and shirtless in speedos. I know, the mental image is frightening, but imagine the look on Phelps & Co.'s faces.

It's worth it.
 
2009-02-23 01:02:51 AM
Selfabortion: timefishblue: I hope Jesus puts a curse on them!

Oh the irony of invoking god to do violent things to a group of people in protest of a protest group invoking god to do violent things to a group of people



Be fitting justice if they all get killed by a 'act of god'
 
2009-02-23 01:05:59 AM
Some more sign ideas:

"LESBIANS ARE AWESOME"
"GOD LOVES ANAL"
"BUTTSECKS?"

Also, I'd invite Man-Faye. It's necessary.
 
2009-02-23 01:06:05 AM
Anarchangel: Karma Chameleon: Anarchangel: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

It's understandable. Honestly, deep down, anyone with half a brain and a conscience, regardless of their religious convictions, want to beat the fark out of these assholes. .

Dude, I would love nothing more than to beat the fark out of anywhere between 5 and 10 people during my morning commute. But I don't. And I realize that at some point during that drive, someone is wanting to beat the fark out of me for something too. I'm glad they don't, either.

That's why I posted a much better alternative.

Addendum: Richard Simmons on top of the truck, with David Letterman encouraging him to be as unbelievably flamboyant as possible. We're talkin' oiled and shirtless in speedos. I know, the mental image is frightening, but imagine the look on Phelps & Co.'s faces.

It's worth it.




Why not just stage an impromptu Gay Pride Parade on the other side of whatever city WBC happens to be protesting a funeral at, then watch their heads asplode trying to decide which function deserves their immediate attention?
 
2009-02-23 01:06:56 AM
Just because you have a "right" to say something doesn't mean it's OK to go around saying it. Duh.

How in the world does that constitute a point that wishing to commit violence against soulless assholes is OK?

The greatest invention in history is due process. It's not my fault you were not born in the dark ages.

Obviously, for the record, because apparently denouncing vigilante violence against farkheads is considered to be backwards thinking, I completely and utterly denounce and despite what the Westborough church stands for and does. But between a few dozen articles a year, nobody killed, vitrol and people maiming other people, which do you think I prefer? Do you really want to live in a might is right world?
 
2009-02-23 01:08:19 AM
Colonel_Colin_Campbell: Why not just stage an impromptu Gay Pride Parade on the other side of whatever city WBC happens to be protesting a funeral at, then watch their heads asplode trying to decide which function deserves their immediate attention?

It'd sorta be like that, only on tour. In fact, I'd make sure that the tour bus would be rocking violently back and forth to give the false impression of gay sex happening inside. I'd make sure to dub really loud orgasmic shouting over the music.
 
2009-02-23 01:08:41 AM
Half of me thinks I should defend their rights to free speech.

The other half thinks I should polish up my rifle skills and methodically kill each of them one at a time from a long distance.

The reality is that I will probably just finish this post and go to the next story and forget about them until another story is posted on Fark. I suggest everyone else do the same.
 
2009-02-23 01:09:10 AM
Weisenheimer: Karma Chameleon: Weisenheimer: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

Because they skirt the law to try to cause pain and suffering to others in an attempt to provoke someone into striking them so they can sue them or their city. What's not to understand?

People are wanting to violence because they are offended. Where does it stop if you allow that type of behavior to happen?

It's human nature to defend those being attacked, or to at least attack the attackers. Is that resorting to our baser instincts? Sure. But if more people were to give these people what they deserved (and yes, I do believe these people deserve some natural consequences), then maybe others will think twice before they commit some sign-carrying professional asshattery.


These people are just the low-hanging fruit though. Remove them from society and then another group will be the target. Sooner or later the targets are going to be things people actually care about.
 
2009-02-23 01:10:35 AM
I'd also be sure to include Jim Morrison's drunken rambling, unofficially titled "fark Her In The Ass", in the playlist.
 
2009-02-23 01:12:50 AM
Anarchangel: Some more sign ideas:

"LESBIANS ARE AWESOME"
"GOD LOVES ANAL"
"BUTTSECKS?"

Also, I'd invite Man-Faye. It's necessary.


This sign idea's a little old, but if it was a large sign, it would fit:
"EVERY TIME YOU SEE A RAINBOW, GOD IS HAVING GAY SEX"

other sign idea:
"NUN PORN IS MY ANTI-DRUG"

/the window seats are comfiest
//and Man-Faye would be necessary, I completely agree
 
2009-02-23 01:16:06 AM
Shoot them and feed them to hungry dogs.
 
2009-02-23 01:32:33 AM
I got no love for gays. My uncle is a self-centered gay "man" who is loathsome beyond belief. I hate him. I truly hate him.

And I will stand up for his right to be that way.

Because what I hate more is a bunch of cultists being jackasses with no reason to be jackasses. That I cannot tolerate. It would be interesting to see what is in Fred Phelp's pron stash. You know he's got one. They always do.

If I ever catch them protesting a hero's funeral, I swear I am going to lose it and blood will be spilled. These are the worst creatures on earth, in line with the taliban and nazis and every other foul ignorant piece of crap that calls itself human.

/ I don't even call myself human anymore
 
2009-02-23 01:58:25 AM
Karma Chameleon: Lenny_da_Hog: .

/but you knew that, troll.

I'll see you in court.


I dodge subpoenas. Executive privilege and all.
 
2009-02-23 02:02:17 AM
Anarchangel: Some more sign ideas:

"LESBIANS ARE AWESOME"
"GOD LOVES ANAL"
"BUTTSECKS?"

Also, I'd invite Man-Faye. It's necessary.


I like the guys grinning, standing next to the clan with signs that say, "I'm With Stupid."

/don't like them enough to google/post them atm, though...
 
2009-02-23 02:02:43 AM
pic.phyrefile.com for the counter protesters.

/trying to see the positive.
 
2009-02-23 02:08:36 AM
The Icelander: mypalmike: Intriguing. Perhaps this is the actual goal...

I can see I've already said too much.

\I am not a part of the Super Secret Atheist/Homosexual Alliance
\\I will not confirm or deny Fred Phelps' involvement in this organization
\\\Which may or may not exist


My newsletter was late last month! I am very upset!
 
2009-02-23 02:14:58 AM
Pastor Ezekiel: Anyone who thinks that Jesus is some kind of limp-wristed hippie had better go back and read the Holy Bible from cover to cover. The Bible tells us that Jesus DOES hate. Only false Christians carry around the crazy notion that Jesus automatically forgives everyone of everything they do. That is just not so. Without sincere repentance, there is no Salvation.

You may not like to hear it, but God thinks that sodomites are "an abomination" and there is nothing to mitigate that position. He also hates witches, liars, non-Christians, atheists and many more. READ THE BIBLE people! Don't take some liberal's word for what it means to be a True Christian!

Old man Phelps has gone soft in his dotage, in my opinion. It's unpatriotic to protest at a soldier's funeral. But he's right about way more things than he's wrong about.


Is this a brand new alt or one of the Christians that come to Fark to invite us to the Lord?
 
2009-02-23 02:17:01 AM
zedster: They are AW, here is how I would deal with them. The best way to beat an AW is to out AW them. So instead of counter protesting create a fake protest and out do them. Make it something dumb, have a small group show up next to them dressed in brown and carrying signs in support of peanut butter and a larger group come and counter them protesting for jelly. Do it right next the westboro guys but act like they are not there.

i81.photobucket.com
 
2009-02-23 02:33:39 AM
Max Danger Power: fuzzwell: So I'm wondering... How many of these West-biatches can there be?

How bad would it be if they all disappeared at once?

Very few, about 60. Their funding is a bit of a mystery. Their disappearance would be noticed, unfortunately.

Well done to Buffalo. I wonder how much it would cost to send a bigger group to counter-protest them everywhere. Send a hundred people or so out everywhere with huge white sheets and speakers to block out the sight and sound? Who wants to start a charity for this?


A few of them are lawyers, and the church makes its money filing suits against jurisdictions that don't protect them sufficiently when they protest.
 
2009-02-23 02:41:40 AM
This is the first time I've ever weighed in on a Westboro thread, so I'm sure this idea has been put before. While I don't believe it is their intent, I think the effect of their antics is to paint all anti-gay rights Christians as hateful bigots. So Westboro is actually doing gay rights a favor by shooing people "on the fence" about the issue to the other side.
/my simple-minded assessment
 
2009-02-23 02:44:43 AM
Look, people: The fact is that, no matter how vile their speech and signs, they do not commit any crimes, nor do they make physical contact with anyone. They stand on the sidelines and spew their hate speech without breaking a single law (except in places where they passed laws making it illegal to protest on cemetery or funeral parlor property).

The WBC knows the law very well, and they toe the line.

(BTW, Yes, the phrase is "toe the line" and NOT "tow the line" -- One means "stand as close as possible to the border without crossing it" and the other means "pulling something on a rope or cable")

The WBC doesn't harm anyone, and they wait eagerly for someone to make an attempt to harm them. Sometimes they have a decent lawsuit, and sometimes (more often than not, these days) they aren't in a good position (mostly because people are getting wise to their bullshiat, now).

All of you IDIOTS saying you'd hit, punch, kick, burn with acid, set on fire, shoot, or otherwise assault members of the WBC are just playing into their baited trap.

Some day, they'll fark up and commit an actual crime while practicing their hate speech, and when that happens the fed will pounce on them. They're already classified as a hate group, a cult, and a possible terrorist threat. If they cross that line, they'll go down faster than Paris Hilton on a nightclub owner.

But please, don't be dumbasses about it. This counter-protest actually went too far, if you ask me. one-hundred-fifty versus three? Jeez. That's overdoing it a bit, and it actually seems like 150 people (many with plastic angel wings) would be more disruptive to a funeral than three idiots standing on the sidelines with their dayglo signs.

And assaulting them would just be one of the dumbest things you could ever do. It's feeding them. It's what they want.

The best courses of action would be:

1. Just ignore them. So what if they're stupid and hateful? Ignore them and realize that their opinion really doesn't matter.

2. Don't advertise your high-profile funerals, and make them private affairs that are by invitation only. If the WBC shows up, you can then have them ejected as trespassers if they come onto the cemetery or funeral parlor grounds.

3. Find some way to make them the Scientologists' enemies. Between the litigation from the Church of Scientology, and the more underhanded tactics utilized by Scientology and the Sea Org, the WBC would be history within a few years. (Of course, you still have Scientologists around, but at least they don't protest at funerals).
 
2009-02-23 02:47:05 AM
Correction:

2. Don't advertise your high-profile funerals; Make them private affairs that are by invitation only, and if the WBC shows up, you can then have them ejected as trespassers if they come onto the cemetery or funeral parlor grounds.
 
2009-02-23 02:49:27 AM
zedster: They are AW, here is how I would deal with them. The best way to beat an AW is to out AW them. So instead of counter protesting create a fake protest and out do them. Make it something dumb, have a small group show up next to them dressed in brown and carrying signs in support of peanut butter and a larger group come and counter them protesting for jelly. Do it right next the westboro guys but act like they are not there.

AWESOME. Everybody knows PB is better than jelly, I propose a smooth vs crunchy protest. CRUNCHY TO THE DEATH
 
2009-02-23 02:57:33 AM
I'm just posting to let everyone know that I love Figs.
I hope all the figophobes burn in hell.
 
2009-02-23 03:13:57 AM
Let 'em do their stupid thing and ignore them.
It's better to have them out in the open, where we can keep an eye on them.
 
2009-02-23 03:16:17 AM
pnjunction: zedster: They are AW, here is how I would deal with them. The best way to beat an AW is to out AW them. So instead of counter protesting create a fake protest and out do them. Make it something dumb, have a small group show up next to them dressed in brown and carrying signs in support of peanut butter and a larger group come and counter them protesting for jelly. Do it right next the westboro guys but act like they are not there.

can't we all just get along?

www.usafoods.com.au

/hot like the hellfire that is gonna consume WBC one of these days
 
2009-02-23 03:21:44 AM
Dahne: What does this even have to do with them? What are they protesting? Westboro's gone from being bigoted assholes to being that retarded kid in third grade who interrupts people's conversations to inform them that he likes crayons.

3.bp.blogspot.com
My cat's breath smells like cat food.
 
2009-02-23 03:24:06 AM
Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

you're a farking dick.

these people are the scum of the earth, and if somebody waited until they were all in one place and drove a van full of fertilizer through the wall, i would do nothing more than smirk to myself.
 
2009-02-23 03:33:42 AM
How much longer will we have to deal with those nutters before people start breaking out the rubber hoses full of sand and extention cords and just whipping the stupid out of them when they show up to protest?

they are terrorists, Psychological Terrorists, are we not supposed to deal with them?
 
2009-02-23 03:44:43 AM
iI read somewhere this bunch of cancerous anal warts was going to come down here to Australia to protest/picket the bush-fires that have left 200+ dead, and before Heath ledgers funeral.

They wouldn't last long, and assuming the Melbourne locals dont hospitalise them immediatley, the protests could qualify as hate speech and put them behind bars... with more locals...... then deported.

come on down fellas ! we will slap a another shrimp on the barbie!
 
2009-02-23 04:38:09 AM
edgar1981: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

you're a farking dick.

these people are the scum of the earth, and if somebody waited until they were all in one place and drove a van full of fertilizer through the wall, i would do nothing more than smirk to myself.


Nothing says undickish like smirking at the deaths of innocent people!
 
2009-02-23 04:58:58 AM
Smacky the Frog: They're impossible to ignore, unfortunately that's what it takes for them to go away.

Did you not watch the video? This was a textbook ignore. I hope whatever next community gets these creeps use the angels.

No confrontation just blocking them out.
 
2009-02-23 05:10:53 AM
Karma Chameleon: edgar1981: Karma Chameleon: I still don't understand why people are advocating crimes against people who are not breaking the law.

you're a farking dick.

these people are the scum of the earth, and if somebody waited until they were all in one place and drove a van full of fertilizer through the wall, i would do nothing more than smirk to myself.

Nothing says undickish like smirking at the deaths of innocent people!



they're only innocent according to soft farking laws that wont be changed because pussy politicians are too afraid of being sued. were the westboro baptist church muslims or arabs they'd be called 'terrorists' and i bet the yanks would throw away the key. they're as bad as any white supremacist group or radical muslim faction and they should at least be in prison, or preferably just not breathing the same air as me.
 
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