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2009-02-20 10:14:43 PM
Rihanna cheated on him and gave him an STD he can never get rid of. If that doesn't warrant domestic violence, then that's just plain stupid.

I don't care if you're a man or woman, if you do something like that, you deserve a good knocking.
 
2009-02-20 10:15:12 PM
Llois: Sabyen91: Yeah, I understand. It is just different when it happens to you. Especially if you were raised the way I was. It is profiling, plain and simple.

I had a finger slammed in a door accidentally by a friend when I was about six years old. My dad still feels rage when he talks about how the hospital grilled me about "does Daddy ever hit you? Is Daddy mean to you? Who really hurt your finger, we won't tell Daddy." Added to the hospital staff grilling him mercilessly at the same time as his baby girl was in the emergency room with a squashed finger.

It's completely understandable given the fact that so many abuse cases go undetected because the victims are terrified of the consequences of telling the truth. It's also terrifying for a 6 year old girl to think that she might be getting her dad into trouble by getting hurt. I can only imagine how infuriating it was for the loving dad who never raised a hand in anger to be indirectly accused of gross abuse.

My finger wasn't broken, just smooshed. It's now slightly crooked and more flat than the one on the other hand. I get by just fine.


Yup. And your father was right to be pissed. And the hospital was probably right to dig. Is a situation good when everybody ends up angry? Hmm.
 
2009-02-20 10:15:39 PM
sarcastrophe: Smacky the Frog: But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

Seriously? You have obviously NEVER been a victim of abuse. You know what causes low self-esteem? Abuse. You're an asshole.


Granted.
They can still get the hell out. There are plenty of organizations out there designed to help battered women escape abuse.
 
2009-02-20 10:16:11 PM
Whats with violence and abuse involving R&B stars?

Ike and Tina...
 
2009-02-20 10:16:16 PM
Awesome T-Shirt: Rihanna cheated on him and gave him an STD he can never get rid of. If that doesn't warrant domestic violence, then that's just plain stupid.

I don't care if you're a man or woman, if you do something like that, you deserve a good knocking.


Nah, but nice try. One cold sore doesn't give you the right to drop bombs.
 
2009-02-20 10:16:27 PM
Egalitarian: SRSLY I have never physically abused any of my boyfriends and the very idea of doing so seems almost ludicrous to me. I can't even do the dominatrix thing in the sack.

Most of my ex's relied on the ol' emotional abuse/manipulation bit.
 
2009-02-20 10:16:59 PM
I saw the picture that TMZ released today... utterly disgusting.

All i can say is if I were Chris Brown, I'd be hiding. Far, far, far away, and not let my parents know a damn thing. Jay Z & Beyonce are going to be out of the country one weekend, and we're going to hear a story about how he (Brown) was found dead, shot execution style.
 
2009-02-20 10:17:22 PM
LivinDead_Girl: Whats with violence and abuse involving R&B stars?

Ike and Tina...


Bobby and Whitney...


/play along everybody!
 
2009-02-20 10:17:23 PM
Egalitarian: Sabyen91
Gdalescrboz: FireBreathingLiberal: Any man who would hit a woman is NOT a REAL man.

REAL men know this.


I have lost count of how many times ive heard this, but never, not even once, have i heard "REAL women dont hit men. REAL women know this."

I thought it was just a given.

I thought it was REAL human beings don't hit other human beings. REAL human beings know this.

SRSLY I have never physically abused any of my boyfriends and the very idea of doing so seems almost ludicrous to me. I can't even do the dominatrix thing in the sack.


No, humans are animals and if they feel threatened it is natural to strike, Mistress Egalitarian.

/kidding!
 
2009-02-20 10:17:55 PM
Any guy that hits a girl is a straight up pussy that has balls the size of sand. there is no reason to just wail on your girlfriend. I blame the urban culture that degrades women to an islamic level.
 
2009-02-20 10:18:06 PM
FireBreathingLiberal: Any man who would hit a woman is NOT a REAL man.

REAL men know this.


Bingo.
 
2009-02-20 10:18:28 PM
This is why I quit dating, I might do something I might regret. Not because I'm a violent person but because women think that they are immune from retribution just because they are women. So they usually say and do horrible things.
 
2009-02-20 10:18:31 PM
fritton: Sabyen91:
No, I don't believe anybody has died of any of the Herpes symplexes...sympli? I agree it should be prosecutable if you knowingly give it to somebody. I think it probably is.

About 1 in 5 people have Herpes. It's much, much more common than you think and you've probably been exposed to it many times.


1 in 5? Eek, I guess I am lucky.
 
2009-02-20 10:18:33 PM
Smacky the Frog: I know. I was being an ass.
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.


And once I left the relationship I got counseling and found better people to associate myself with. And as far as earning your respect since you say you have none for me since I was trapped in this relationship for a year without any perceived way of getting out (he was excessively controlling and basically held me prisoner with threats against my family and me), please do me a favor and just put me on ignore. I am not here to try to earn your respect. I am a survivor and I don't give a shiat about you and your respect. I have the respect of my family and friends, and those are who matter, not some no name, no faced snarking ahole here. You are right because there are plenty of nice guys out there. I know, I did find one. But if you choose to not respect someone in this situation, you should maybe focus on the ones who constantly go back and don't get out. I try hard not to pass judgment on anyone in this type of situation, but hopefully try to help them see there is a way out other than ending up dead.

/whatever dude, I'm gonna go watch tv...

Sabyen91: Wow, that is farking uncalled for.

Thank you - it was...
 
2009-02-20 10:18:37 PM
queenb4biatch: It's sad that we as humans have lost our sense of humility, humanity and humbleness towards other.

I checked your profile because of that comment. Sharing your stories of abuse on Fark. Wow. Reminds me of the album entitled "Shooting Rubber Bands at the Sun".

I don't think we ever had the humility you speak of, but for a moment. That is why the bewildered, current generation refers to so many as "dirty hippies". It is their way of getting a handle on something that, even as the stock market collapses, electric cars overcome suppression, and solar panels gain notoriety, defies their sensibilities.

Your bravery is not unnoticed.
 
2009-02-20 10:18:38 PM
Smacky the Frog:
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.


brewssuds:
I'm sorry, but if you're in an abusive relationship and don't get out immediately, I don't have any sympathy for you. (I save it for the truly deserving).


Yeah, none of this deserves respect or sympathy...
So... why do all these people stay?
1. They have been taught to be afraid of more violence. Pain teaches fear, fear creates strong patterns of control.
2. "You can't leave a marriage! If you do, god will hate you!" Thank the assorted religions for that one.
3. Not enough resources to sustain them. The street is a big, frightening, and cold place. Sometimes, painful struggle is at least less frightening then being out with nothing.
Also, if you are short on resources, consider...
a. Most abused women have at least one minor child.
b. Many abused women are not employed outside the home.
c. Many abused women don't have property that is solely theirs.
d. In many cases, abusers have cut off access to cash or bank accounts.
e. Most abused women fear losing joint assets and custody of their children.
f. Abused women fear a lower standard of living for themselves and their children.
4. "Gee, Im sorry baby!" Abusers actually are often very sorry for what they do, and its convincing because its real. But they cant control themselves, they do more (insert X issue here), and BAM!
5. Ignorance of the support available, and fear that it wont be available for them. Shelters, etc.

And much much more.

So... much of that is copy paste, Im at work. Google for "why women stay in abusive relationships", and learn.
 
2009-02-20 10:18:49 PM
Where's the source that says she gave him an STD?
 
2009-02-20 10:18:57 PM
bearsfolks: I bet these dopes would just love Sharia Law.

Ooh Snap!

Now respect his authorita!
 
2009-02-20 10:19:07 PM
Smacky the Frog: sarcastrophe: Smacky the Frog: But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

Seriously? You have obviously NEVER been a victim of abuse. You know what causes low self-esteem? Abuse. You're an asshole.

Granted.
They can still get the hell out. There are plenty of organizations out there designed to help battered women escape abuse.


Ladder disparity - they don't think they'd do any better and the abusive partner has the power position.

Ladder Theory wins again!
 
2009-02-20 10:20:07 PM
TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Yeah, teens in Chicago. The Detroit of Illinois.

Chicago? Really? Gary, Indiana is the Detroit of Illinois.
 
2009-02-20 10:20:32 PM
The key is to find the right balance between being a "REAL MAN" and a misogynist.
somethingoffensive.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-02-20 10:20:47 PM
bonnieboodickie: Where's the source that says she gave him an STD?

I'd like to know that too.
 
2009-02-20 10:20:59 PM
wilde_at_heart: No Such Agency
But SRSLY people... violence is almost never justified among civilized, intelligent adults. Especially not because someone told you off, or threw away your keys, or did something stupid or even evil. Unless they are physically attacking you in a way that actually threatens your safety... violence is not justified.

THIS. If someone is really pissing you off, you can always just leave their presence.

FightDirector
On a serious note, what's the magic number of times a woman is allowed to hit a guy (not play-fighting - we're talking full-on punches when the chick is a 15-year Wushu practitioner) before he's allowed to hit back? My brother would like to know, once he's out of the hospital. After all, a REAL man never hits a woman, right?

See above. If conflict escalates to violence, you get the hell away from that person. Self-defense is acceptable if someone blocks you from getting away, but the best thing to do is just leave.

/and women who go back to violent men are morans.



Actually, evolutionally speaking, women are drawn to men who are physical. Is that stupid? Maybe. I know I would be getting more if instinct had nothing to do with relations.
 
2009-02-20 10:22:10 PM
You know that bit about, "Any man who would hit a woman..." is such an annoying little snippet. No, as a rule I do not go around hitting chicks, or anyone for that matter, it isn't a good way to solve your problems.

That being said, I think it's unfair to cast the striking of a woman specifically in a more negative light than hitting a dude. If he punched out a paparazzi or something, a lot of us would feel that was okay, because they guy was causing a dangerous scene, and because the paparazzi would probably be a guy. But god forbid he hit a woman, now he has to be crucified.

/Prosecute him if she'll press charges, there's no need to make him out as the devil.
 
2009-02-20 10:22:18 PM
TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Yeah, teens in Chicago. The Detroit of Illinois.

It's like they found the one school in IL full of /b/tards.
 
2009-02-20 10:22:46 PM
queenb4biatch: Smacky the Frog: I know. I was being an ass.
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

And once I left the relationship I got counseling and found better people to associate myself with. And as far as earning your respect since you say you have none for me since I was trapped in this relationship for a year without any perceived way of getting out (he was excessively controlling and basically held me prisoner with threats against my family and me), please do me a favor and just put me on ignore. I am not here to try to earn your respect. I am a survivor and I don't give a shiat about you and your respect. I have the respect of my family and friends, and those are who matter, not some no name, no faced snarking ahole here. You are right because there are plenty of nice guys out there. I know, I did find one. But if you choose to not respect someone in this situation, you should maybe focus on the ones who constantly go back and don't get out. I try hard not to pass judgment on anyone in this type of situation, but hopefully try to help them see there is a way out other than ending up dead.

/whatever dude, I'm gonna go watch tv...

Sabyen91: Wow, that is farking uncalled for.

Thank you - it was...


I respect you for getting out of it, even if it did take way too long IMO.
Women who stay with husbands who beat them for 30-40 years are worthless.

Here's a rule ladies: First time your man hits you, it's over. That's it, he's an asshole, it's done.
There is no 'forgive and forget', because it will happen again.
 
2009-02-20 10:22:51 PM
Maybe if provoking were regarded with the same disdain as hitting it'd help the situation.

HAHA!~

As IF!!

Humans are teh stupid!
 
2009-02-20 10:23:05 PM
Gyrfalcon: Sabyen91: kronicfeld: 2wheeljunkie: Yelling and throwing keys warrants an ass beating.

He distinctly said "that does not make it ok."

He clearly implied it would be ok if it were a guy.

No, he said it would HAPPEN if it was a guy. Beating someone up for lameass reasons is never okay. But it does happen. It's also a fact that women-beaters rarely stop at women. They're usually petty criminals of various types: Drunk drivers, assault&battery types who get in bar fights, morons who mouth off to cops & then whine when they get a baton in the teeth.

After the day I had at the DV clinic filling out TROs for sad women who were blaming themselves for the beatings they took, someone needs to bring these brats to my clinic, or one similar, and let them listen to some of these ladies' and mens' stories. Then they might shut THEIR whore mouths once in a while and learn something.

(For those who think men are all beasts & assholes: Took a TRO from a guy today who called the cops on a woman trying to beat him up...because he didn't want to have to hit her to make her stop. "I could never hit a woman.")


Wasn't my point. Again, my point was he blamed it on "womens' equality". It is clearly more than that if men who are not sympathetic to that cause are less likely to hit a woman.
 
2009-02-20 10:24:02 PM
ohnonotfloridaagain: Rihanna allegedly got the herp and has only been with Chris Brown recently. Chris Brown alledgedly got a text from Paris Hilton - who is allegedly known to have the herp - on the way to the Grammys. Rihanna allegedly read this text and surmised this is where her herp came from, then allegedly had a fit, threw the keys, got beat up, etc.

Wait, so Chris Brown cheated on Rihanna, caught the herp and gave it to her? Damn! She should beat his ass for that!
 
2009-02-20 10:24:03 PM
hairywoogit: Smacky the Frog:
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

brewssuds:
I'm sorry, but if you're in an abusive relationship and don't get out immediately, I don't have any sympathy for you. (I save it for the truly deserving).

Yeah, none of this deserves respect or sympathy...
So... why do all these people stay?
1. They have been taught to be afraid of more violence. Pain teaches fear, fear creates strong patterns of control.
2. "You can't leave a marriage! If you do, god will hate you!" Thank the assorted religions for that one.
3. Not enough resources to sustain them. The street is a big, frightening, and cold place. Sometimes, painful struggle is at least less frightening then being out with nothing.
Also, if you are short on resources, consider...
a. Most abused women have at least one minor child.
b. Many abused women are not employed outside the home.
c. Many abused women don't have property that is solely theirs.
d. In many cases, abusers have cut off access to cash or bank accounts.
e. Most abused women fear losing joint assets and custody of their children.
f. Abused women fear a lower standard of living for themselves and their children.
4. "Gee, Im sorry baby!" Abusers actually are often very sorry for what they do, and its convincing because its real. But they cant control themselves, they do more (insert X issue here), and BAM!
5. Ignorance of the support available, and fear that it wont be available for them. Shelters, etc.

And much much more.

So... much of that is copy paste, Im at work. Google for "why women stay in abusive relationships", and learn.


All valid points.

I guess the real question is why do "survivors" of abusive relationships feel the need to tell complete strangers on the internet how they "only" put up with it for a year before they got out?
 
2009-02-20 10:24:04 PM
I dunno, I had a girlfriend who had 6 inches and 40 lbs on me. If we got into a slappy fight, I'm not sure who would come out ahead. That would seem like a pretty fair fight. Emotionally, she's made of glass though.
 
2009-02-20 10:24:12 PM
ipeeintheshower: No...

If *anyone* attacks you, male or female and you don't feel that you are in danger, back off and call the cops. Let them get the assault charge. If you fight back you *will* get at least a public disorder charge if you can't show that you were in any danger. If there's a lot of damage you *will* get even more serious charges. Let them be a criminal.

If you honestly feel you are in danger from either a male or female, and honestly size doesn't matter in a lot of situations, then you still have to try and remove yourself from the situation. If that's not possible then you are absolutely justified in defending yourself.

Self defense when someone is attacking you does NOT include:

"he/she slapped me so I beat the ever loving crap out of him/her"


I don't agree because in some situations that just doesn't seem like a very satisfying option. If say, someone were to sucker punch me in the face and then try to run away, I will chase that person down and beat them to the ground. That's just how it is. I understand I could be charged with a crime, but so could he, plus my fists in his face.


Agree or not all you want but if you chase someone down and beat them, or really just beat anybody who is no longer a danger to you, you'll end up with a criminal record.

This is not an "eye for an eye" country.

I agree with you however that if someone sucker punches you and runs then they definitely DESERVE to take a few punches, but it's just not smart. Violence when not absolutely necessary is just generally a bad idea. That idea may be new to some folks who voted for Bush..twice. (yah, that's just troll bait)

Here's kind of a similar story:

Several weeks ago I was in Chicago for an investment meeting (my new business got funded! wooo!) and my little brother goes to college there.

He took my girlfriend and I out for dinner and we needed to stop at his apartment quickly to grab something. He pulled up in a no parking zone since we were just gonna be right in and out. We ran into his apartment grabbed his wallet and came right back out.

There was some drunk from the bar around the corner standing at his car when we came out. The guy (about 5'10, 200 lbs -mid sized) walks over to my brother and says "Is this your car?" Brian says "yes" and the guy immediately head butts him in the face.

This is in the middle of the night, in chicago. I figured we were in some serious trouble and this is family. I bum rushed the guy and he fell backwards. I hit him twice in the face and he kind of squirmed around on the ground trying to get his feet between us. My girlfriend pulled me off and the guy got up and ran away.

Called police, took a statement, nothing much happened.

I talked to my attorney the next morning about it and he said that as it stands the guy could sue me for hitting him, no matter that he's the one that attacked with no provocation.

Also, he said that if the guy had killed himself by hitting his head in the fall then I could have been charged with manslaughter.

/doesn't change things. Someone attacks you in the middle of the night out of nowhere then you are allowed to feel like you are in danger.
 
2009-02-20 10:24:17 PM
TheDeathMerchant: Smacky the Frog: sarcastrophe: Smacky the Frog: But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

Seriously? You have obviously NEVER been a victim of abuse. You know what causes low self-esteem? Abuse. You're an asshole.

Granted.
They can still get the hell out. There are plenty of organizations out there designed to help battered women escape abuse.

Ladder disparity - they don't think they'd do any better and the abusive partner has the power position.

Ladder Theory wins again!


I've read Ladder Theory, but as I recall it mostly had do with aesthetics and earning ability...
 
2009-02-20 10:24:52 PM
They've cured Whore Mouth already. Take one tablet. A 45kg stone tablet, and drop it on that jabbering jezzabel when she is asleep.

/Smoking, business, window.
 
2009-02-20 10:25:04 PM
WildMonkey: This is why I quit dating, I might do something I might regret. Not because I'm a violent person but because women think that they are immune from retribution just because they are women. So they usually say and do horrible things.

I've been in some CLASSIC shouting matches with my ex's. They've said just about everything there is to say about my family, me, everyone I've ever known... etc.


There is NOTHING that a woman can say that's going to make me lose complete control and swing my fist/open hand at her. NOTHING.

MEN. DO. NOT. HIT. WOMEN.

I thought this was one of the most basic things that we all learned, and yet some of the posts I see on here seem to be saying "Well yeah but she needs to learn that she can't run her mouth without consequences"

markontheworld.files.wordpress.com



And if you're going to give me this bullshiat about "Well what about when she goes psycho and starts hitting me and throwing shiat?"

LEAVE YOU DUMB MOTHER FARKER!!
 
2009-02-20 10:25:18 PM
soj4life: Any guy that hits a girl is a straight up pussy that has balls the size of sand. there is no reason to just wail on your girlfriend. I blame the urban culture that degrades women to an islamic level.

Bullshiat. I believe wife-beating was much more prevalent in the "good old days", the 50's.
 
2009-02-20 10:25:38 PM
Sabyen91: wilde_at_heart: No Such Agency
But SRSLY people... violence is almost never justified among civilized, intelligent adults. Especially not because someone told you off, or threw away your keys, or did something stupid or even evil. Unless they are physically attacking you in a way that actually threatens your safety... violence is not justified.

THIS. If someone is really pissing you off, you can always just leave their presence.

FightDirector
On a serious note, what's the magic number of times a woman is allowed to hit a guy (not play-fighting - we're talking full-on punches when the chick is a 15-year Wushu practitioner) before he's allowed to hit back? My brother would like to know, once he's out of the hospital. After all, a REAL man never hits a woman, right?

See above. If conflict escalates to violence, you get the hell away from that person. Self-defense is acceptable if someone blocks you from getting away, but the best thing to do is just leave.

/and women who go back to violent men are morans.


Actually, evolutionally speaking, women are drawn to men who are physical. Is that stupid? Maybe. I know I would be getting more if instinct had nothing to do with relations.


Weird but true. I have an ex-girlfriend who would often say I should hit her when she would do stupid things(which she did a lot). At first I thought she was joking, but later it seemed like she was really serious about that. I decided she wasn't someone I wanted to stick around with.(No pun intended)
 
2009-02-20 10:27:05 PM
muck4doo: No, you're just trying to be difficult. If you can't understand that just put together a bunch of two year olds or chimps and throw some cookies in the middle. See how they react.

I actually like your analogy, because I imagine that being the feeding method for a bunch of captive chimps, and I imagine myself among them. After two or three batches of cookies, I say, "Pardon me, chaps, but I'm awfully hungry. What say on the next batch I get a cookie or two? Hmm?" Then, if they behave rapaciously, I get all stabby.

I guess that's why it's call the "Department of Defense" Violence only as a last resort and all that. What an absolutely adorable name. If only it were accurate. Perchance to dream.
 
2009-02-20 10:27:48 PM
Gigglecream: The key is to find the right balance between being a "REAL MAN" and a misogynist.

Yikes. You used that as an example? Yikes.
 
2009-02-20 10:27:59 PM
NYZooMan: Maybe if provoking were regarded with the same disdain as hitting it'd help the situation.

HAHA!~

As IF!!

Humans are teh stupid!


You should post that old lady gif. I don't know if it is appropriate or not here, but then again, none of us know what the hell it is.
 
2009-02-20 10:28:26 PM
sheilanagig: Gigglecream: The key is to find the right balance between being a "REAL MAN" and a misogynist.

Yikes. You used that as an example? Yikes.


I'm glad someone else noticed this.
 
2009-02-20 10:29:01 PM
Smacky the Frog: queenb4biatch: Smacky the Frog: I know. I was being an ass.
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

And once I left the relationship I got counseling and found better people to associate myself with. And as far as earning your respect since you say you have none for me since I was trapped in this relationship for a year without any perceived way of getting out (he was excessively controlling and basically held me prisoner with threats against my family and me), please do me a favor and just put me on ignore. I am not here to try to earn your respect. I am a survivor and I don't give a shiat about you and your respect. I have the respect of my family and friends, and those are who matter, not some no name, no faced snarking ahole here. You are right because there are plenty of nice guys out there. I know, I did find one. But if you choose to not respect someone in this situation, you should maybe focus on the ones who constantly go back and don't get out. I try hard not to pass judgment on anyone in this type of situation, but hopefully try to help them see there is a way out other than ending up dead.

/whatever dude, I'm gonna go watch tv...

Sabyen91: Wow, that is farking uncalled for.

Thank you - it was...

I respect you for getting out of it, even if it did take way too long IMO.
Women who stay with husbands who beat them for 30-40 years are worthless.

Here's a rule ladies: First time your man hits you, it's over. That's it, he's an asshole, it's done.
There is no 'forgive and forget', because it will happen again.


Is that you, Tom Cruise?
 
2009-02-20 10:29:21 PM
brewssuds:
I guess the real question is why do "survivors" of abusive relationships feel the need to tell complete strangers on the internet how they "only" put up with it for a year before they got out?


The herculean effort it takes to get OUT of those patterns does qualify for a great deal of respect, in my personal opinion. And no small amount of bragging rights, if one is inclined to post such things. Most people don't even really have the self-examination necessary to break little habits that are only lightly self enforced.

Look at it this way... If someone already had the will, strength, and self-esteem necessary to leave a relationship like that, they would have left immediately. On the other hand, if they entered the relationship minus the tools necessary to leave, and had to develop them WHILE dealing with the relationship... yeah. That is an amazing trick worthy of a cup o' suds on hearing it.
 
2009-02-20 10:29:37 PM
brewssuds: sheilanagig: Gigglecream: The key is to find the right balance between being a "REAL MAN" and a misogynist.

Yikes. You used that as an example? Yikes.

I'm glad someone else noticed this.


The reason I noticed it is because I read the books. Hella misogynistic up in there.
 
2009-02-20 10:29:37 PM
WildMonkey
This is why I quit dating, I might do something I might regret. Not because I'm a violent person but because women think that they are immune from retribution just because they are women. So they usually say and do horrible things.

You are probably selecting the wrong women. Not all women are like this. Just the ones you are attracted to.
 
2009-02-20 10:29:53 PM
chris brown is going to get jumped real real bad.
 
2009-02-20 10:29:55 PM
brewssuds: hairywoogit: Smacky the Frog:
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

brewssuds:
I'm sorry, but if you're in an abusive relationship and don't get out immediately, I don't have any sympathy for you. (I save it for the truly deserving).

Yeah, none of this deserves respect or sympathy...
So... why do all these people stay?
1. They have been taught to be afraid of more violence. Pain teaches fear, fear creates strong patterns of control.
2. "You can't leave a marriage! If you do, god will hate you!" Thank the assorted religions for that one.
3. Not enough resources to sustain them. The street is a big, frightening, and cold place. Sometimes, painful struggle is at least less frightening then being out with nothing.
Also, if you are short on resources, consider...
a. Most abused women have at least one minor child.
b. Many abused women are not employed outside the home.
c. Many abused women don't have property that is solely theirs.
d. In many cases, abusers have cut off access to cash or bank accounts.
e. Most abused women fear losing joint assets and custody of their children.
f. Abused women fear a lower standard of living for themselves and their children.
4. "Gee, Im sorry baby!" Abusers actually are often very sorry for what they do, and its convincing because its real. But they cant control themselves, they do more (insert X issue here), and BAM!
5. Ignorance of the support available, and fear that it wont be available for them. Shelters, etc.

And much much more.

So... much of that is copy paste, Im at work. Google for "why women stay in abusive relationships", and learn.

All valid points.

I guess the real question is why do "survivors" of abusive relationships feel the need to tell complete strangers on the internet how they "only" put up with it for a year before they got out?


Perhaps they aren't talking to a cock like you.
 
2009-02-20 10:30:19 PM
hairywoogit: Smacky the Frog:
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

brewssuds:
I'm sorry, but if you're in an abusive relationship and don't get out immediately, I don't have any sympathy for you. (I save it for the truly deserving).

Yeah, none of this deserves respect or sympathy...
So... why do all these people stay?
1. They have been taught to be afraid of more violence. Pain teaches fear, fear creates strong patterns of control.
2. "You can't leave a marriage! If you do, god will hate you!" Thank the assorted religions for that one.
3. Not enough resources to sustain them. The street is a big, frightening, and cold place. Sometimes, painful struggle is at least less frightening then being out with nothing.
Also, if you are short on resources, consider...
a. Most abused women have at least one minor child.
b. Many abused women are not employed outside the home.
c. Many abused women don't have property that is solely theirs.
d. In many cases, abusers have cut off access to cash or bank accounts.
e. Most abused women fear losing joint assets and custody of their children.
f. Abused women fear a lower standard of living for themselves and their children.
4. "Gee, Im sorry baby!" Abusers actually are often very sorry for what they do, and its convincing because its real. But they cant control themselves, they do more (insert X issue here), and BAM!
5. Ignorance of the support available, and fear that it wont be available for them. Shelters, etc.

And much much more.

So... much of that is copy paste, Im at work. Google for "why women stay in abusive relationships", and learn.


Psychopaths also have great logical reasons for what they do. Doesn't make it right.
 
2009-02-20 10:31:18 PM
muck4doo: brewssuds: Is Chris Brown related to Bobby Brown?

James Brown.


Buster Brown
 
2009-02-20 10:31:42 PM
i168.photobucket.com

/look at how swollen Rihana's lips are
 
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