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2009-02-20 10:01:01 PM  

brewssuds: Is Chris Brown related to Bobby Brown?


James Brown.
 
2009-02-20 10:01:07 PM  
... some people just... yeah.

No. No hitting people, except maybe in the extreme of self defense of yourself or another. Other then that, if you haul off and hit someone weaker then you, you have officially resigned from human being status and need to be caged with the rest of the unreasoning animals until you learn to rejoin the human race.

Lost a family member to that. And any fool who pipes up with "Just leave!", clearly has NO clue of the control mechanisms involved, and just how horribly effective they are. Yes, women are far more likely to be abused. Gotta love all those social programming sets that subtly, and not so subtly, encourage them to take/tolerate/accept abuse in exchange for "love". Bleh.

And just to clarify... if some female of the species has decided you look suspiciously like someone who needs to be in pain and bleed out of many orifi, feel free to defend yourself. Just bear in mind that its FAR easier for men to develop more explosive upper body strength, and if you make hash out of her in exchange for a mild abrasion on your upper torso, you are still an unreasoning schmuck.
 
2009-02-20 10:01:08 PM  

muck4doo: /Rihanna has the herp?


You think she made it big based on her talent?
 
2009-02-20 10:01:08 PM  

muck4doo: Smacky the Frog: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheAthiestChaplin: I heard the biatch gave him herpes... If that doesn't merit some domestic abuse I don't know what does

Supposedly he gave HER the herp, and while they were driving to the Grammy's he got a text from Paris Hilton wanting to meet up with him later. Rihanna took his phone and read the text, and that's when the shiatstorm started.

The Dlisted writer calls Paris WonkyMcValtrex for a reason...but even passing on an STD is not an excuse for violence.

Here's a good question then... what is the appropriate response for someone giving you the herp? What constitutes an fair reaction?

I would treat it like someone who has knowingly passed you AIDS without telling you. People have been prosecuted for that, the same thing should apply to herpes. Assualt with a deadly weapon or something like that.

/Rihanna has the herp?


Well, knowingly giving herp is nasty but it isn't HIV.
 
2009-02-20 10:01:08 PM  

Sabyen91: Smacky the Frog: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheAthiestChaplin: I heard the biatch gave him herpes... If that doesn't merit some domestic abuse I don't know what does

Supposedly he gave HER the herp, and while they were driving to the Grammy's he got a text from Paris Hilton wanting to meet up with him later. Rihanna took his phone and read the text, and that's when the shiatstorm started.

The Dlisted writer calls Paris WonkyMcValtrex for a reason...but even passing on an STD is not an excuse for violence.

Here's a good question then... what is the appropriate response for someone giving you the herp? What constitutes an fair reaction?

Rusty knife historectomy.


The only thing that came to my mind was taking out a billboard in your town stating that "XXXXXX has vaginal herpes and you shouldn't touch her."
 
2009-02-20 10:01:10 PM  
wow...looking at those pictures takes me back to a time about 18 years ago when I ended up with some similar bruising, but most of it was in my body where it was easier for me to hide, because if anyone saw the bruises, cigarette burns and cuts from the previous evening's altercations, well it would make him look like a "bad man", and he wasn't a bad man, he "just got angry" a lot. After all he sometimes would apologize for beating me because he drank through his case of beer and I didn't have enough money to go to the store to buy him more. Or the time he was upset because the washing machine didn't get his socks clean enough after his church softball game, and he had to wear socks with dirt stains and it was deemed to be my fault since it was my washer and dryer. Or when the lamp in the bedroom was used as a projectile and connected quite nicely with the back of my head because the light bulb blew out and he was upset by that for some reason. You reach a point where you expect the beatings to begin for no reason, he stops apologizing and you can't wear that long sleeve shirt in August anymore because it is too hot and you are tired of hiding.

I hope for her sake she leaves him and never looks back. It took me almost a year of his alcoholism and beatings before I got out. She needs to stay away from him and others like him.

It's sad when girls are now becoming more violent than boys. It's sad that there is even this level of violence in our society. It's sad that even though we joke about it, that Maury does shows on it weekly, that we laugh at "COPS" when they go get the hillbilly in the wifebeater shirt covered in her blood that we still think what did she do to deserve it. It's sad that people have stopped instilling the basic life lessons in our precious snowflakes that you need to try your best to be kind to each other, but to defend yourself from people who are not nice. It's sad that we as humans have lost our sense of humility, humanity and humbleness towards other.

This is just farkin sad. I wouldn't blame her one bit for wanting to put a cap in his ass...He deserves it after his actions.
 
2009-02-20 10:01:12 PM  
Well, to be fair...

I don't really think she deserved that Memphis Mouthwash.
 
2009-02-20 10:01:17 PM  

FireBreathingLiberal: Any man who would hit a woman is NOT a REAL man.

REAL men know this.


Real men aren't misogynists.
 
2009-02-20 10:01:18 PM  
FireBreathingLiberal: Any man who would hit a woman is NOT a REAL man.

REAL men know this.



I have lost count of how many times ive heard this, but never, not even once, have i heard "REAL women dont hit men. REAL women know this."
 
2009-02-20 10:01:22 PM  

ipeeintheshower: I'm not saying Rihanna provoked or deserved the attack because I really don't know any of the facts but this "rule" that a guy should never hit a girl is a bunch of bull to me.


Yes typically women are smaller and weaker than their male counterparts, but what do parents tell the younger brother when
he hits his older brother and then the older brother hits him even harder back? The parents say "don't hit your older brother", which is appropriate.


I don't see any difference in male/female adult relationships. If the woman hits first, she should get it back. That is the appropriate deterrent to starting violence in the first place. If someone is dumb enough to strike first at someone who is that much bigger/stronger than you, then what else is going to help them learn?


No...

If *anyone* attacks you, male or female and you don't feel that you are in danger, back off and call the cops. Let them get the assault charge. If you fight back you *will* get at least a public disorder charge if you can't show that you were in any danger. If there's a lot of damage you *will* get even more serious charges. Let them be a criminal.

If you honestly feel you are in danger from either a male or female, and honestly size doesn't matter in a lot of situations, then you still have to try and remove yourself from the situation. If that's not possible then you are absolutely justified in defending yourself.

Self defense when someone is attacking you does NOT include:

"he/she slapped me so I beat the ever loving crap out of him/her"
 
2009-02-20 10:02:12 PM  

bonnieboodickie: No I know what you're saying completely. I just wish young men understood- and they don't. And these girls amaze me- I tell my son this is all part of a bigger game the girls are playing- I know I played them too- he just looks at me like I'm crazy.


To be fair I wouldn't have heard any of that either when I was younger. Some of this stuff just takes life experience to really get the message through, as maddening as that can be for families.
 
2009-02-20 10:02:15 PM  

Smacky the Frog: Sabyen91: Smacky the Frog: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheAthiestChaplin: I heard the biatch gave him herpes... If that doesn't merit some domestic abuse I don't know what does

Supposedly he gave HER the herp, and while they were driving to the Grammy's he got a text from Paris Hilton wanting to meet up with him later. Rihanna took his phone and read the text, and that's when the shiatstorm started.

The Dlisted writer calls Paris WonkyMcValtrex for a reason...but even passing on an STD is not an excuse for violence.

Here's a good question then... what is the appropriate response for someone giving you the herp? What constitutes an fair reaction?

Rusty knife historectomy.

The only thing that came to my mind was taking out a billboard in your town stating that "XXXXXX has vaginal herpes and you shouldn't touch her."


Public humiliation would be particularly effective. It isn't like she could sue you for libel.
 
2009-02-20 10:02:33 PM  

queenb4biatch: This is just farkin sad. I wouldn't blame her one bit for wanting to put a cap in his ass...He deserves it after his actions.


And so the circle is complete...
 
2009-02-20 10:02:52 PM  

muck4doo: It has nothing to do with intelligence, and everything to do with maturity.


I'm curious how you think maturity assuages the tendency to inflict violence in conflicts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just at a loss to define the difference.
 
2009-02-20 10:03:06 PM  

Gdalescrboz: FireBreathingLiberal: Any man who would hit a woman is NOT a REAL man.

REAL men know this.


I have lost count of how many times ive heard this, but never, not even once, have i heard "REAL women dont hit men. REAL women know this."


I thought it was just a given.
 
2009-02-20 10:03:26 PM  
I blame Twilight, stupid sparkly Edward.
 
2009-02-20 10:03:29 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: You have went up 10 points in my respect Lionel.


That puts me at, what...-15?

;)
 
2009-02-20 10:04:00 PM  

fritton: ipeeintheshower: I'm not saying Rihanna provoked or deserved the attack because I really don't know any of the facts but this "rule" that a guy should never hit a girl is a bunch of bull to me.


Yes typically women are smaller and weaker than their male counterparts, but what do parents tell the younger brother when
he hits his older brother and then the older brother hits him even harder back? The parents say "don't hit your older brother", which is appropriate.


I don't see any difference in male/female adult relationships. If the woman hits first, she should get it back. That is the appropriate deterrent to starting violence in the first place. If someone is dumb enough to strike first at someone who is that much bigger/stronger than you, then what else is going to help them learn?

No...

If *anyone* attacks you, male or female and you don't feel that you are in danger, back off and call the cops. Let them get the assault charge. If you fight back you *will* get at least a public disorder charge if you can't show that you were in any danger. If there's a lot of damage you *will* get even more serious charges. Let them be a criminal.

If you honestly feel you are in danger from either a male or female, and honestly size doesn't matter in a lot of situations, then you still have to try and remove yourself from the situation. If that's not possible then you are absolutely justified in defending yourself.

Self defense when someone is attacking you does NOT include:

"he/she slapped me so I beat the ever loving crap out of him/her"


Exactly, if you don't feel in danger is a good rule of thumb (not the wife-beating rule of thumb).
 
2009-02-20 10:04:08 PM  

queenb4biatch: wow...looking at those pictures takes me back to a time about 18 years ago when I ended up with some similar bruising, but most of it was in my body where it was easier for me to hide, because if anyone saw the bruises, cigarette burns and cuts from the previous evening's altercations, well it would make him look like a "bad man", and he wasn't a bad man, he "just got angry" a lot. After all he sometimes would apologize for beating me because he drank through his case of beer and I didn't have enough money to go to the store to buy him more. Or the time he was upset because the washing machine didn't get his socks clean enough after his church softball game, and he had to wear socks with dirt stains and it was deemed to be my fault since it was my washer and dryer. Or when the lamp in the bedroom was used as a projectile and connected quite nicely with the back of my head because the light bulb blew out and he was upset by that for some reason. You reach a point where you expect the beatings to begin for no reason, he stops apologizing and you can't wear that long sleeve shirt in August anymore because it is too hot and you are tired of hiding.

I hope for her sake she leaves him and never looks back. It took me almost a year of his alcoholism and beatings before I got out. She needs to stay away from him and others like him.

It's sad when girls are now becoming more violent than boys. It's sad that there is even this level of violence in our society. It's sad that even though we joke about it, that Maury does shows on it weekly, that we laugh at "COPS" when they go get the hillbilly in the wifebeater shirt covered in her blood that we still think what did she do to deserve it. It's sad that people have stopped instilling the basic life lessons in our precious snowflakes that you need to try your best to be kind to each other, but to defend yourself from people who are not nice. It's sad that we as humans have lost our sense of humility, humanity and humbleness towards other.

This is just farkin sad. I wouldn't blame her one bit for wanting to put a cap in his ass...He deserves it after his actions.


You must have low self-esteem...
How you doin'...
 
2009-02-20 10:05:18 PM  

Sabyen91: muck4doo: Smacky the Frog: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheAthiestChaplin: I heard the biatch gave him herpes... If that doesn't merit some domestic abuse I don't know what does

Supposedly he gave HER the herp, and while they were driving to the Grammy's he got a text from Paris Hilton wanting to meet up with him later. Rihanna took his phone and read the text, and that's when the shiatstorm started.

The Dlisted writer calls Paris WonkyMcValtrex for a reason...but even passing on an STD is not an excuse for violence.

Here's a good question then... what is the appropriate response for someone giving you the herp? What constitutes an fair reaction?

I would treat it like someone who has knowingly passed you AIDS without telling you. People have been prosecuted for that, the same thing should apply to herpes. Assualt with a deadly weapon or something like that.

/Rihanna has the herp?

Well, knowingly giving herp is nasty but it isn't HIV.


No, it isn't HIV. Have people died from Herpes in the past? I don't know. It still should be treated like as if someone used a biological weapon on someone. Spreading herpes knowingly should be assault, period. Sti;; doesn't mean he gets to beat her ass. He should have reported it to the authorities.
 
2009-02-20 10:05:33 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: That puts me at, what...-15?


heheh... this isn't the politics tab. I think we all want what is right in the world. Politics doesn't need to define right vs. wrong.

/I put you at -40
 
2009-02-20 10:05:55 PM  
Came for the Glen Ford pic. Fail.
 
2009-02-20 10:05:57 PM  

Fano: I blame Twilight, stupid sparkly Edward.


It's not abuse when it's TRUE LOVE
 
2009-02-20 10:06:20 PM  
content.ytmnd.com

And of course this
 
2009-02-20 10:06:21 PM  

Egalitarian: Also I have to say, what's with men who stick around with abusive women? Trow da beyotches out, just like women shouldn't stick with abusive men.


To some extent, it's the chivalry thing. Guys are taught to just be stoic and put up with it.

Also, it seems like people always stay in bad relationships longer than you'd expect. Maybe it's just that you can only see things clearly from the outside. Or maybe some dumbasses just deserve each other.
 
2009-02-20 10:06:29 PM  
blog.newsok.com

I don't hit women. I would never hit a woman. I'd hit a woman who was trying to hit me with a bottle. That's different. That's self-defense, isn't it? Or a woman who could do karate. I would never hit a woman generally.
 
2009-02-20 10:06:37 PM  

Smacky the Frog: queenb4biatch: wow...looking at those pictures takes me back to a time about 18 years ago when I ended up with some similar bruising, but most of it was in my body where it was easier for me to hide, because if anyone saw the bruises, cigarette burns and cuts from the previous evening's altercations, well it would make him look like a "bad man", and he wasn't a bad man, he "just got angry" a lot. After all he sometimes would apologize for beating me because he drank through his case of beer and I didn't have enough money to go to the store to buy him more. Or the time he was upset because the washing machine didn't get his socks clean enough after his church softball game, and he had to wear socks with dirt stains and it was deemed to be my fault since it was my washer and dryer. Or when the lamp in the bedroom was used as a projectile and connected quite nicely with the back of my head because the light bulb blew out and he was upset by that for some reason. You reach a point where you expect the beatings to begin for no reason, he stops apologizing and you can't wear that long sleeve shirt in August anymore because it is too hot and you are tired of hiding.

I hope for her sake she leaves him and never looks back. It took me almost a year of his alcoholism and beatings before I got out. She needs to stay away from him and others like him.

It's sad when girls are now becoming more violent than boys. It's sad that there is even this level of violence in our society. It's sad that even though we joke about it, that Maury does shows on it weekly, that we laugh at "COPS" when they go get the hillbilly in the wifebeater shirt covered in her blood that we still think what did she do to deserve it. It's sad that people have stopped instilling the basic life lessons in our precious snowflakes that you need to try your best to be kind to each other, but to defend yourself from people who are not nice. It's sad that we as humans have lost our sense of humility, humanity and humbleness towards other.

This is just farkin sad. I wouldn't blame her one bit for wanting to put a cap in his ass...He deserves it after his actions.

You must have low self-esteem...
How you doin'...


Wow, that is farking uncalled for.
 
2009-02-20 10:08:01 PM  
FitzShivering

Would you have an issue with a man beating a woman who was physically stronger than he is?

Or do you really mean to say that women are like "children" and the "disabled" and can't defend themselves?


Look if Chyna starts stomping on zombie Billy Barty, Billy can feel free to do whatever he can to knock her out.

It's a huge imbalance in physical strength we're talking about here.

\didn't Spiderman's uncle say that "With great power comes great responsibility?"
 
2009-02-20 10:08:06 PM  

Skyrmion: Also, it seems like people always stay in bad relationships longer than you'd expect. Maybe it's just that you can only see things clearly from the outside. Or maybe some dumbasses just deserve each other.


This.

I'm sorry, but if you're in an abusive relationship and don't get out immediately, I don't have any sympathy for you. (I save it for the truly deserving).
 
2009-02-20 10:08:08 PM  
To clarify my totally trashy and rumormongering post -

Rihanna allegedly got the herp and has only been with Chris Brown recently. Chris Brown alledgedly got a text from Paris Hilton - who is allegedly known to have the herp - on the way to the Grammys. Rihanna allegedly read this text and surmised this is where her herp came from, then allegedly had a fit, threw the keys, got beat up, etc. ALLEGEDLY!
 
2009-02-20 10:08:24 PM  

muck4doo: Sabyen91: muck4doo: Smacky the Frog: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheAthiestChaplin: I heard the biatch gave him herpes... If that doesn't merit some domestic abuse I don't know what does

Supposedly he gave HER the herp, and while they were driving to the Grammy's he got a text from Paris Hilton wanting to meet up with him later. Rihanna took his phone and read the text, and that's when the shiatstorm started.

The Dlisted writer calls Paris WonkyMcValtrex for a reason...but even passing on an STD is not an excuse for violence.

Here's a good question then... what is the appropriate response for someone giving you the herp? What constitutes an fair reaction?

I would treat it like someone who has knowingly passed you AIDS without telling you. People have been prosecuted for that, the same thing should apply to herpes. Assualt with a deadly weapon or something like that.

/Rihanna has the herp?

Well, knowingly giving herp is nasty but it isn't HIV.

No, it isn't HIV. Have people died from Herpes in the past? I don't know. It still should be treated like as if someone used a biological weapon on someone. Spreading herpes knowingly should be assault, period. Sti;; doesn't mean he gets to beat her ass. He should have reported it to the authorities.


No, I don't believe anybody has died of any of the Herpes symplexes...sympli? I agree it should be prosecutable if you knowingly give it to somebody. I think it probably is.
 
2009-02-20 10:08:37 PM  

Smacky the Frog: You must have low self-esteem...


I did...very low. I have been through counseling, and I still battle with low self esteem. However, I no longer put myself into those situations.
 
2009-02-20 10:09:02 PM  

sarcastrophe: Lionel Mandrake: That puts me at, what...-15?

heheh... this isn't the politics tab. I think we all want what is right in the world. Politics doesn't need to define right vs. wrong.

/I put you at -40


Heh, harsh.
 
2009-02-20 10:09:20 PM  

Sabyen91: Smacky the Frog: queenb4biatch: wow...looking at those pictures takes me back to a time about 18 years ago when I ended up with some similar bruising, but most of it was in my body where it was easier for me to hide, because if anyone saw the bruises, cigarette burns and cuts from the previous evening's altercations, well it would make him look like a "bad man", and he wasn't a bad man, he "just got angry" a lot. After all he sometimes would apologize for beating me because he drank through his case of beer and I didn't have enough money to go to the store to buy him more. Or the time he was upset because the washing machine didn't get his socks clean enough after his church softball game, and he had to wear socks with dirt stains and it was deemed to be my fault since it was my washer and dryer. Or when the lamp in the bedroom was used as a projectile and connected quite nicely with the back of my head because the light bulb blew out and he was upset by that for some reason. You reach a point where you expect the beatings to begin for no reason, he stops apologizing and you can't wear that long sleeve shirt in August anymore because it is too hot and you are tired of hiding.

I hope for her sake she leaves him and never looks back. It took me almost a year of his alcoholism and beatings before I got out. She needs to stay away from him and others like him.

It's sad when girls are now becoming more violent than boys. It's sad that there is even this level of violence in our society. It's sad that even though we joke about it, that Maury does shows on it weekly, that we laugh at "COPS" when they go get the hillbilly in the wifebeater shirt covered in her blood that we still think what did she do to deserve it. It's sad that people have stopped instilling the basic life lessons in our precious snowflakes that you need to try your best to be kind to each other, but to defend yourself from people who are not nice. It's sad that we as humans have lost our sense of humility, humanity and humbleness towards other.

This is just farkin sad. I wouldn't blame her one bit for wanting to put a cap in his ass...He deserves it after his actions.

You must have low self-esteem...
How you doin'...

Wow, that is farking uncalled for.


I know. I was being an ass.
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.
 
2009-02-20 10:09:26 PM  

sarcastrophe: Lionel Mandrake: That puts me at, what...-15?

heheh... this isn't the politics tab. I think we all want what is right in the world. Politics doesn't need to define right vs. wrong.

/I put you at -40


I didn't realize "don't hit women" was a political stand...

But I'll take the -40...I'm movin' on up! Yay! :)
 
2009-02-20 10:09:59 PM  

Sabyen91: Yeah, I understand. It is just different when it happens to you. Especially if you were raised the way I was. It is profiling, plain and simple.


I had a finger slammed in a door accidentally by a friend when I was about six years old. My dad still feels rage when he talks about how the hospital grilled me about "does Daddy ever hit you? Is Daddy mean to you? Who really hurt your finger, we won't tell Daddy." Added to the hospital staff grilling him mercilessly at the same time as his baby girl was in the emergency room with a squashed finger.

It's completely understandable given the fact that so many abuse cases go undetected because the victims are terrified of the consequences of telling the truth. It's also terrifying for a 6 year old girl to think that she might be getting her dad into trouble by getting hurt. I can only imagine how infuriating it was for the loving dad who never raised a hand in anger to be indirectly accused of gross abuse.

My finger wasn't broken, just smooshed. It's now slightly crooked and more flat than the one on the other hand. I get by just fine.
 
2009-02-20 10:10:18 PM  

TheDeathMerchant: I don't hit women. I would never hit a woman. I'd hit a woman who was trying to hit me with a bottle. That's different. That's self-defense, isn't it? Or a woman who could do karate. I would never hit a woman generally.


Yeah, lower the boom then.
 
2009-02-20 10:10:47 PM  

boobsrgood: muck4doo: It has nothing to do with intelligence, and everything to do with maturity.

I'm curious how you think maturity assuages the tendency to inflict violence in conflicts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just at a loss to define the difference.


No, you're just trying to be difficult. If you can't understand that just put together a bunch of two year olds or chimps and throw some cookies in the middle. See how they react.

/Prisoners tend to react the same way.
 
2009-02-20 10:11:43 PM  
Sabyen91
Gdalescrboz: FireBreathingLiberal: Any man who would hit a woman is NOT a REAL man.

REAL men know this.


I have lost count of how many times ive heard this, but never, not even once, have i heard "REAL women dont hit men. REAL women know this."

I thought it was just a given.


I thought it was REAL human beings don't hit other human beings. REAL human beings know this.

SRSLY I have never physically abused any of my boyfriends and the very idea of doing so seems almost ludicrous to me. I can't even do the dominatrix thing in the sack.
 
2009-02-20 10:11:53 PM  

Smacky the Frog: But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.


Seriously? You have obviously NEVER been a victim of abuse. You know what causes low self-esteem? Abuse. You're an asshole.
 
2009-02-20 10:12:00 PM  

Sabyen91:
No, I don't believe anybody has died of any of the Herpes symplexes...sympli? I agree it should be prosecutable if you knowingly give it to somebody. I think it probably is.


About 1 in 5 people have Herpes. It's much, much more common than you think and you've probably been exposed to it many times.
 
2009-02-20 10:12:15 PM  

Smacky the Frog: But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.


Boring guys, you mean.
 
2009-02-20 10:12:18 PM  

muck4doo: If you can't understand that just put together a bunch of two year olds or chimps and throw some cookies in the middle.


Dude, too soon. That lady who was attacked by a chimp was eating a cookie.
 
2009-02-20 10:12:28 PM  
I would do just about anything to understand a women who stays in an abusive relationship- I know it's low self esteem but it has to be more than that- we all have low self esteem at times. I'm not judging- I just don't get it- do you live in constant fear?
 
2009-02-20 10:12:28 PM  
No Such Agency
But SRSLY people... violence is almost never justified among civilized, intelligent adults. Especially not because someone told you off, or threw away your keys, or did something stupid or even evil. Unless they are physically attacking you in a way that actually threatens your safety... violence is not justified.


THIS. If someone is really pissing you off, you can always just leave their presence.

FightDirector
On a serious note, what's the magic number of times a woman is allowed to hit a guy (not play-fighting - we're talking full-on punches when the chick is a 15-year Wushu practitioner) before he's allowed to hit back? My brother would like to know, once he's out of the hospital. After all, a REAL man never hits a woman, right?


See above. If conflict escalates to violence, you get the hell away from that person. Self-defense is acceptable if someone blocks you from getting away, but the best thing to do is just leave.

/and women who go back to violent men are morans.
 
2009-02-20 10:12:39 PM  
No...

If *anyone* attacks you, male or female and you don't feel that you are in danger, back off and call the cops. Let them get the assault charge. If you fight back you *will* get at least a public disorder charge if you can't show that you were in any danger. If there's a lot of damage you *will* get even more serious charges. Let them be a criminal.

If you honestly feel you are in danger from either a male or female, and honestly size doesn't matter in a lot of situations, then you still have to try and remove yourself from the situation. If that's not possible then you are absolutely justified in defending yourself.

Self defense when someone is attacking you does NOT include:

"he/she slapped me so I beat the ever loving crap out of him/her"



I don't agree because in some situations that just doesn't seem like a very satisfying option. If say, someone were to sucker punch me in the face and then try to run away, I will chase that person down and beat them to the ground. That's just how it is. I understand I could be charged with a crime, but so could he, plus my fists in his face.
 
2009-02-20 10:12:50 PM  

Smacky the Frog: Sabyen91: Smacky the Frog: queenb4biatch: wow...looking at those pictures takes me back to a time about 18 years ago when I ended up with some similar bruising, but most of it was in my body where it was easier for me to hide, because if anyone saw the bruises, cigarette burns and cuts from the previous evening's altercations, well it would make him look like a "bad man", and he wasn't a bad man, he "just got angry" a lot. After all he sometimes would apologize for beating me because he drank through his case of beer and I didn't have enough money to go to the store to buy him more. Or the time he was upset because the washing machine didn't get his socks clean enough after his church softball game, and he had to wear socks with dirt stains and it was deemed to be my fault since it was my washer and dryer. Or when the lamp in the bedroom was used as a projectile and connected quite nicely with the back of my head because the light bulb blew out and he was upset by that for some reason. You reach a point where you expect the beatings to begin for no reason, he stops apologizing and you can't wear that long sleeve shirt in August anymore because it is too hot and you are tired of hiding.

I hope for her sake she leaves him and never looks back. It took me almost a year of his alcoholism and beatings before I got out. She needs to stay away from him and others like him.

It's sad when girls are now becoming more violent than boys. It's sad that there is even this level of violence in our society. It's sad that even though we joke about it, that Maury does shows on it weekly, that we laugh at "COPS" when they go get the hillbilly in the wifebeater shirt covered in her blood that we still think what did she do to deserve it. It's sad that people have stopped instilling the basic life lessons in our precious snowflakes that you need to try your best to be kind to each other, but to defend yourself from people who are not nice. It's sad that we as humans have lost our sense of humility, humanity and humbleness towards other.

This is just farkin sad. I wouldn't blame her one bit for wanting to put a cap in his ass...He deserves it after his actions.

You must have low self-esteem...
How you doin'...

Wow, that is farking uncalled for.

I know. I was being an ass.
But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.


It isn't about other guys. It is about her own mental health. Do you think a totally healthy, stable, confident woman would put up with abuse? I don't. That doesn't mean those that do should be insulted and despised.
 
2009-02-20 10:13:12 PM  

vodka: I blame video games.


I blame booze.
 
2009-02-20 10:13:24 PM  

Sabyen91: kronicfeld: 2wheeljunkie: Yelling and throwing keys warrants an ass beating.

He distinctly said "that does not make it ok."

He clearly implied it would be ok if it were a guy.


No, he said it would HAPPEN if it was a guy. Beating someone up for lameass reasons is never okay. But it does happen. It's also a fact that women-beaters rarely stop at women. They're usually petty criminals of various types: Drunk drivers, assault&battery types who get in bar fights, morons who mouth off to cops & then whine when they get a baton in the teeth.

After the day I had at the DV clinic filling out TROs for sad women who were blaming themselves for the beatings they took, someone needs to bring these brats to my clinic, or one similar, and let them listen to some of these ladies' and mens' stories. Then they might shut THEIR whore mouths once in a while and learn something.

(For those who think men are all beasts & assholes: Took a TRO from a guy today who called the cops on a woman trying to beat him up...because he didn't want to have to hit her to make her stop. "I could never hit a woman.")
 
2009-02-20 10:13:47 PM  

sarcastrophe: Smacky the Frog: But seriously. I have little respect for women who stay in abusive relationships. There are plenty of nice guys out there who won't beat the shiat out of you.

Seriously? You have obviously NEVER been a victim of abuse. You know what causes low self-esteem? Abuse. You're an asshole.


Well, he's been a victim of abuse NOW.

/words hurt
 
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