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(New York Daily News)   South Asian man stopped 21 times by NYPD on subway files lawsuit. Police say they weren't using racial profiling, just that he looked suspicious entering and exiting his home subway station every single day   (nydailynews.com) divider line 129
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2009-02-20 11:04:09 AM
I am reawy, reawy upset about this.
 
2009-02-20 11:04:39 AM
www.peakradar.com

That's Profiling and profiling is wrong

//hotter than tater salad
//wait what
 
2009-02-20 11:05:25 AM
He was probably working for the terrorist organization Viet Cong.

/Pigs are morons. Pigs looking for terrorists are beyond morons, they're dummy-shiathead-dummy-dummy
 
2009-02-20 11:06:04 AM
img7.imageshack.us

Have a nice day citizen.
 
2009-02-20 11:06:16 AM
Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is 1 in 165 million.

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.
 
2009-02-20 11:06:59 AM
How many posts till a successful troll for either side really gets this ball rolling? Excen's opening gambit is a bold one.
 
2009-02-20 11:07:21 AM
is there a chance, even a small one that this is a set up?
 
2009-02-20 11:08:01 AM
This...is a lawsuit I actually agree with.

WTF?
 
2009-02-20 11:09:20 AM
A canned soundtrack on the Subway now says NYPD has the liberty to detain & search your belongings

Nearly did a doubletake when I heard that on the 4-line today

/embiggened for my outrage
 
2009-02-20 11:09:37 AM
I don't agree with the lawsuit.

It's a cash grab that will cost all of us, because the costs of policing New York are the same.

We'll probably figure out in another month that his next-door neighbor -- who was also South Asian -- was a big-time drug dealer.
 
2009-02-20 11:09:38 AM
Seacop: By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.

He was also able to calculate that in his head in a matter of seconds. He later stated that he has to ride the subway because he cannot manage to park his car anywhere.
 
2009-02-20 11:09:38 AM
before anymore asian jokes come in, try to remember South Asia consists of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, and British Indian Ocean Territory. Some definitions may also include Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tibet, and Iran. (Taken from Wikipedia)

I think they recently started calling themselves south ASIAN for a better image. If you are Iranian trying to apply for a job in America, it probably looks better on a resume to say you are "asian"
 
2009-02-20 11:10:05 AM
Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is 1 in 165 million.

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.


so damn funny
 
2009-02-20 11:10:30 AM
Ikimasen: How many posts till a successful troll for either side really gets this ball rolling? Excen's opening gambit is a bold one.

All muslims are not terrorists, but all the terrorists are muslims.
 
2009-02-20 11:10:37 AM
FTFA:
...no, sorry, it's racial profiling," said the 32-year-old Sultan

Wonder if he's kin to the Sultans of Swing.
 
2009-02-20 11:10:38 AM
Can this guy prove he was stopped 21 times? It sounds like he has a case if he can.
 
2009-02-20 11:11:16 AM
aMiGo255: I think they recently started calling themselves south ASIAN for a better image. If you are Iranian trying to apply for a job in America, it probably looks better on a resume to say you are "asian"

I thought the usual ploy was to say you're from Persia.
 
2009-02-20 11:11:37 AM
Rats Racist
 
2009-02-20 11:11:44 AM
He should know this is what happens when you're with the Sultans of swing.
 
2009-02-20 11:11:49 AM
Look, obviously the police are going to stop those who they think a danger. This guy may have been born in NYC, but a lot of times people like that will have loyalties to their home country. How many terrorists are well-educated, middle class students or doctors?
 
2009-02-20 11:12:16 AM
ZachF81: Seacop: By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.

He was also able to calculate that in his head in a matter of seconds. He later stated that he has to ride the subway because he cannot manage to park his car anywhere.


If he just lops off his wife's head, he can park in her spot.
 
2009-02-20 11:12:18 AM
ZachF81:
He later stated that he has to ride the subway because he cannot manage to park his car anywhere.

fixed
 
2009-02-20 11:12:33 AM
Pair-o-Dice: FTFA:
...no, sorry, it's racial profiling," said the 32-year-old Sultan

Wonder if he's kin to the Sultans of Swing.


Dang it!
 
2009-02-20 11:13:10 AM
aMiGo255: before anymore asian jokes come in, try to remember South Asia consists of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, and British Indian Ocean Territory. Some definitions may also include Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tibet, and Iran. (Taken from Wikipedia)

I think they recently started calling themselves south ASIAN for a better image. If you are Iranian trying to apply for a job in America, it probably looks better on a resume to say you are "asian"


Screw wikipedia, Iran is not in South Asia, nor is Tibet or Afghanistan
 
2009-02-20 11:14:52 AM
I have a friend who used to get stopped on occasion. He's a white guy, and he was perpetually late for work for some reason or another*, and he'd bring his lunch in a paper bag, hair wet from just getting out of the shower.

Oh, and he was a programmer/analyst, so he had that nerdy nervousness about him.

Hell, I used to get followed (but not stopped) by the police all the time back when I had long hair, apparently to see if they could pull me over. I'd drive extra carefully, not wanting to give them an excuse.

Piece of advice for rural cops: The one 'unmarked' car your department has is known on sight by everyone in town about 2 weeks after you first get it.


*To his credit, he'd stay late most days working on stuff, so it's not like he was cheating the company he worked for.
 
2009-02-20 11:14:56 AM
Land Ark: Pair-o-Dice: FTFA:
...no, sorry, it's racial profiling," said the 32-year-old Sultan

Wonder if he's kin to the Sultans of Swing.

Dang it!


Did he make fast just as the time-bell rings?

/I FINALLY saw Mark Knopfler in concert a couple of years ago at the Molson Ampitheatre in Toronto. It was a transcendental experience, considering I was Dire Straits fan from age 7 (now 38).
 
2009-02-20 11:15:04 AM
aMiGo255: before anymore asian jokes come in, try to remember South Asia consists of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, and British Indian Ocean Territory. Some definitions may also include Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tibet, and Iran. (Taken from Wikipedia)

I think they recently started calling themselves south ASIAN for a better image. If you are Iranian trying to apply for a job in America, it probably looks better on a resume to say you are "asian"


better to lie than
checking off the Towel Head box or the Camel Jockey box
 
2009-02-20 11:15:32 AM
Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is 1 in 165 million.

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.


What's wrong with an Indian perpetuating a positive stereotype? If there was anything positive about, say, the blacks' culture, that would be okay to perpetuate as well.
 
2009-02-20 11:16:15 AM
Bummer of a birthmark, Hal

/obscurish
 
2009-02-20 11:16:39 AM
rocinante721: A canned soundtrack on the Subway now says NYPD has the liberty to detain & search your belongings

Nearly did a doubletake when I heard that on the 4-line today

/embiggened for my outrage


Liberty...I don't think it means what they think it means.
 
2009-02-20 11:16:54 AM
what_now: Can this guy prove he was stopped 21 times? It sounds like he has a case if he can.

He's probably carrying around suspicious bags/packages, or looks worried. As he stated, he was stopped at a variety of stations all around Manhattan and Brooklyn, so it's not like the same cops had it out for him. I guarantee he was doing something to look suspicious. I've seen the cops in the subway let plenty of people from every corner of the earth walk through without a bother, but if anyone has a big bag or looks anxious in the least bit, they get checked.

This had nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the fact that the guy probably carries himself awkwardly, and constantly looks suspicious because of it.
 
2009-02-20 11:16:55 AM
Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is '1 run in 165 million run hundwed rickty-rive mirron.'

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.
 
2009-02-20 11:17:09 AM
dittybopper: Piece of advice for rural cops: The one 'unmarked' car your department has is known on sight by everyone in town about 2 weeks after you first get it.


*snort* Too true.

I grew up in rural Ontario, Canada. Kids "from town" would joke about the cops trying to pass themselves off as not-cops in bars, etc. Except for the fact that their back jeans pocket would have the faded and worn outline of their handcuffs on them.

/great undercover police work there, Lou
 
2009-02-20 11:17:13 AM
Just in case it wasn't clear: My friend lived in Manhattan and would get stopped by cops in and around the subway (his main form of transportation), and I didn't live in NYC and it was local PD.
 
2009-02-20 11:17:30 AM
Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is 1 in 165 million.

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.


When did South Asians get stereotyped as being C-3PO?
 
2009-02-20 11:17:56 AM
FahQue: Bummer of a birthmark, Hal

/obscurish


Only to "Garfield" fans.
 
2009-02-20 11:18:17 AM
Conservationist: I don't agree with the lawsuit.

It's a cash grab that will cost all of us, because the costs of policing New York are the same.

We'll probably figure out in another month that his next-door neighbor -- who was also South Asian -- was a big-time drug dealer.


If his neighbor is a big time drug dealer, and the police are looking for that neighbor, and they are searching the man instead, then the police are incompetent. Unless we're talking about identical twins here, if you've got a target, and you mistake someone else for your target over 20 times, you've got a problem.

What is more, if his neighbor is a big time drug dealer, and the police have targeted this neighbor more than 21 times for searches and still found nothing, then the police are incompetent. How is it even remotely intelligent to engage a dangerous drug dealer that often, and not be able to make absolutely anything stick to them?

Are we to assume that the police are less competent than your average toddler? Or should we rather assume that this supposed drug dealer doesn't really exist, and they're just racially profiling this guy?
 
2009-02-20 11:19:18 AM
Ponzholio: Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is '1 run in 165 million run hundwed rickty-rive mirron.'

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.


South Asian, you idiot. Meaning Indian, ect.
 
2009-02-20 11:19:31 AM
ZachF81: Seacop: By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.

He was also able to calculate that in his head in a matter of seconds. He later stated that he has to ride the subway because he cannot manage to park his car anywhere.


Don't New Yorkers place a lawn chair in their parking space?
 
2009-02-20 11:19:40 AM
IonBeam2: Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is 1 in 165 million.

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.

What's wrong with an Indian perpetuating a positive stereotype? If there was anything positive about, say, the blacks' culture, that would be okay to perpetuate as well.



ZING!
 
2009-02-20 11:19:58 AM
When I started reading the article I thought, "Ethnic profiling of South Asians? Are Thai Muslims global now?"

Then it's noted his parents are from Kashmir. When the hell did we start calling that part of the world South Asia? Didn't it used to be Central Asia?
 
2009-02-20 11:20:05 AM
insano: I am reawy, reawy upset about this.


Didn't you read the article?

Damn if you're going to stereotype the guy at least use the proper stereotype.

I'm wery wery upset about this.
 
2009-02-20 11:20:31 AM
ZachF81: but if anyone has a big bag or looks anxious in the least bit, they get checked.

I go to the gym after work and usually have a big bag. I look nervous a lot if I'm going to be late. Am I a suspect?
 
2009-02-20 11:20:41 AM
Waisis?
 
2009-02-20 11:21:10 AM
what_now: ZachF81: but if anyone has a big bag or looks anxious in the least bit, they get checked.

I go to the gym after work and usually have a big bag. I look nervous a lot if I'm going to be late. Am I a suspect?


Only if you are going in like 26 minutes
 
2009-02-20 11:21:33 AM
It would appear that IonBeam2 has won my little challenge.

If you come down to the station we'll give you a coupon for dinner for two at Flaming Amy's Burritos (up to a 25 dollar value.)
 
2009-02-20 11:21:37 AM
aMiGo255: before anymore asian jokes come in, try to remember South Asia consists of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, and British Indian Ocean Territory. Some definitions may also include Afghanistan, Myanmar, Tibet, and Iran. (Taken from Wikipedia)

I think they recently started calling themselves south ASIAN for a better image. If you are Iranian trying to apply for a job in America, it probably looks better on a resume to say you are "asian"


So is there a North Asia, maybe a North Asian. I will tell you why there isnt any, because there are no dark skinned Asian there in North Asia.
 
2009-02-20 11:21:42 AM
IonBeam2: Ponzholio: Seacop: Jangir Sultan, who is of South Asian descent, says in a new federal suit that the odds of his being stopped randomly that many times is '1 run in 165 million run hundwed rickty-rive mirron.'

By all means, don't perpetuate stereotypes.

South Asian, you idiot. Meaning Indian, ect.


You're a lot of fun at parties huh? JUST GIVE IT TO ME DAMN IT.
 
2009-02-20 11:22:02 AM
www.aclu.org

ooops, wrong race...
 
2009-02-20 11:22:44 AM
what_now: ZachF81: but if anyone has a big bag or looks anxious in the least bit, they get checked.

I go to the gym after work and usually have a big bag. I look nervous a lot if I'm going to be late. Am I a suspect?


Only if you have a year round tan. Which makes me wonder if guidos ever run into this problem.
 
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