Party Boy: An easy way to look at that is to see what classes are offered on U.S. and race, and U.S. and class.

Well, I currently work for a med school, so I'm pretty sure there are no classes like that!

But my Alma Mata? Giant Expensive Private University?

I can almost guarantee there are no classes on class. Let me check..

Well, you can take a poli sci class on: Reckoning with the Past: Reparations and Justice in Comparative Perspective

and

The Politics of Race and Ethnicity

I'm sure there are classes that TOUCH on class- like: Civil Society and the Stateor some of the history classes, but there is NO class specifically on class.

My point isn't that we aren't teaching race issues, it's that we're doing it wrong.

Party Boy: whole student centers divided into race/ethnicity...

Wheres the poor folks student center?

My office.

/financial aid

Party Boy: There seems to be, then, an even greater vacancy on class in academia.

Why is that?

Because class is something you move from, race is not. Look, if you asked most people in this country to list their 5 best friends (not family), most people would mostly list people of the same race.

Now, spare me the "my* friends are a UN..." because I said most. And yeah, I know you* have the one black friend, I'm talking about MOST people. Including ethnic minorities.

However, if you asked that same group of people about the class that their friends were BORN into, I think you'd get a different answer- a lot of people might not even know.

* I don't mean "you" Party Boy, I mean the plural "you", fark. The English language doesn't pluralize "You".

He naiiiiled it. We don't like talking about any tough subjects.

I wish instead of talking about this he were discussing how to go about restoring civil liberties and decreasing executive power instead of maintaining a large amount that was grabbed by GWB.

And here's a story about a college that has put up White and Black drinking fountains.

I'm sure there will be plenty of butthurt over this.

DslainteC: HAHA! You've become Canada.

That's no shiat.

what_now: And here's a story about a college that has put up White and Black drinking fountains.

I'm sure there will be plenty of butthurt over this.



This 1950's replica diner is completely accurate in its details...right down to the blacks/whites only tiles on the floor. In the 50's, you could find yourself in some mighty big trouble if you were white and stepped on the black tiles...or vice versa.

Morgan Freeman has some good thoughts on this topic.

I'm a little sad that us European-Americans don't get our own month, though...

burndtdan: i don't think we segregate racially so much as we segregate culturally. and that's really to be expected, regardless of race.

Bingo.

burndtdan: i don't think we segregate racially so much as we segregate culturally. and that's really to be expected, regardless of race.

i don't care what race someone is, i just want to hang out with people who have the same interests as i do.

And, over in one.

wee: Morgan Freeman has some good thoughts on this topic.

I'm a little sad that us European-Americans don't get our own month, though...

I knew I liked that guy for a reason.

cheshirecatsmileyface: As a black person, I am more than fine with giving up Black History Month. However, it would be nice if black history wasn't relegated to just a couple chapters on slavery and the civil rights movement in school history books.

I'm with you on that. I've been reading a lot of nonfiction lately (turning into my dad, I guess), and I'm always coming across interesting stuff I never learned in history class. The last good one I read was called "Rum". It had all sorts of really interesting stuff in it about the slave trade and how this part of the world was colonized. A book along those lines called "Salt" also gets into some black history hardly anyone talks about.

Another good one I read is called Patton's Panthers. It's about the first all black tank battalion to enter combat in WWII and what they accomplished. Fascinating stuff, and I'd never even heard of them (which is saying quite a lot, since I've been a big WWII buff for 30 years now).

Anyway, the token history month should go. It's mean to showcase and honor and educate, but it pretty much fails on all those counts. I think it's actually actively divisive.

CrankMyBlueSax: And how is it Mr. Holder can get away with saying such things? Oh yeah .....

I am sorry what is he "getting away with" exactly?

I find it funny how when a black person says "America has a problem about dealing with race issues" the right takes it as them saying "WHITEY has a problem with race issues".

It's pretty damn funny.

Is it they think blacks always accuse whites?

Is it they think only real Americans are white?

It's pretty funny and scary at them same time.

gustakooka: Corvus: the right takes it as them saying "WHITEY has a problem with race issues".

The who? Who said that?

No one said that but you. Methinks you are projecting a little bit.

So I feel that blacks are accusing white people?

Really?

What color am I?

Hey idiot read this thread and you will see many comments of people referring to black people calling out white people on racism. Which is not what Holden is doing here.

so pathetic.

gustakooka: Corvus: the right takes it as them saying "WHITEY has a problem with race issues".

The who? Who said that?

No one said that but you. Methinks you are projecting a little bit.

Opppss Here is an example:



cchris_39: Let's see......maybe he should start by explaining why 99% of the blacks voted for the black guy......

What an asshat

cchurch: And there is nothing wrong with having a problem with a culture. If we find fault with a culture (which is really just a shared outlook), then we've lost the ability to judge anyone's opinions.

But it is a problem when you prejudice an entire race based on the culture and for many that is easy to do.