49 dead

So much for that safety record.

Um, Clarence isn't really Buffalo, Subby. But damn.

I know but who knows what Clarence Center is.

I'm going to hell for this.

but I can't not post it.

The pilot was aiming for the runway but landed wide right.

Well, I suppose you can reset that "Days since last fatal accident" counter back to zero, then.

I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

from the looks of that fire, it's not looking good.

/watching bizarre live scenes "via skype" on CNN

Clarence Carter?

Robo Beat: Well, I suppose you can reset that "Days since last fatal accident" counter back to zero, then.

When I GIS'd that I got:

Holy shiat!

That's kind of scary knowing that I live around here.

I used to sit in the workstation of my friend when she was in school and have my teeth cleaned while watching planes land at that airport.

/is now creeped out and will be eyeing the skies a little closer

cameroncrazy1984: The pilot was aiming for the runway but landed wide right.

Bet those were some hot wings!

/Buffalonian expat

Here is what it looked like before the plane hit.

Damn. Now I feel bad for posting that. I might have known someone on that plane.

threefeetoffun: I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

Then why did you submit it?

My thoughts ad prayers go to the families of everyone on board.

NewportBarGuy: They should make the whole plane a black box.

Sad. RIP.

How about Nerf?

bighasbeen: When I GIS'd that I got:

Which is funny, since she's still alive..

Aaliyah is the one that died in a plane crash.

Does this mean the survivors don't have to pay full price?

Corvus: crypticsatellite: They don't yet know how many dead, at least according to CNN. FAA says 48 on board...2 people taken to the hospital...

Good, once it becomes 50 it's in bad taste to make jokes.

Then why are Holocaust jokes funny?

alfredromeo: Here is what it looked like before the plane hit.

That's Williamsville, not Clarence. Clarence is just to the east, though.

tagjim: Clarence Carter?
When I start flying a plane
I don't just fly
I be crashin'
That's what I be doin'

tagjim: Clarence Carter?

They be smokin'

/smokin' to the east, smokin' to the west, smokin' to the crash site that they love the best

hardinparamedic: Should have had Sully piloting it.

If he had been piloting he would have set it down nice and gentle just below Niagra Falls. :)

/going to hell, I know.

I think this one might be it?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CJC3407

Foxxinnia: tagjim: Clarence Carter?
When I start flying a plane
I don't just fly
I be crashin'
That's what I be doin'

Curses and drat! Five seconds!

You know its not your day when you're at home, happily watching the tv, and a place falls on your head.

threefeetoffun: I know but who knows what Clarence Center is.

Clarence center? That's where you can buy plane parts at a deep discount.

This is a block from my house, maybe a little more. I was on the computer when it happened. There was engine noise, which isn't unusual as we're on a flight path, which ended with a loud bang. I ran downstairs, saw the sky just to the north absolutely lit up red, with a white strobing light as well. I called 911, but the lines were jammed.

After the crash, I heard two small pops, and one larger secondary explosion, all some time after the crash.

The crash is near some local restaurants and shops, a day care, and less than 100 yards from the Clarence Center volunteer fire hall. Other departments responded amazingly fast. Right now there's a minor smell in the air, but we're thankfully downwind.

Local news doesn't have a lot of details. Not sure where the Buffalo News is getting its info from, but it seems pretty consistently reported that it was a fifty passenger plane - whether or not it was full is not known yet.

Some reports indicate that at least some of the people in the home hit got out safely. I'm a little freaked as one of my coworkers lives right near the house that was hit - it may even be next door.

mmm, cook-out

Barnacles!: "Do we have Clearance Clarence?"

Roger Roger

:(

Try that again, with link:

Link (new window)

I heard someone on the ground died from just seeing it. HE BE STROKIN! THAT'S WHAT HE BE DOIN'!

I knew those boneless wings would never fly.

//too soon?

My sincere condolences to those who lost a friend or family member.

=(

They should have landed in Niagra Falls.

BalugaJoe: They should have landed in Niagra Falls.

NIAGRA FALLS!...slowly I turned...step by step...inch by inch...

alfredromeo: Here is what it looked like before the plane hit.

You've got the wrong Long St. You want the one in Clarence Center, not Buffalo.

Ah jeez. My mom has to take a Dash 8 to visit us here in Toronto on Saturday, she's going to be hysterical.

crash location

Clarence Center is a hamlet in the Town of Clarence. Doesn't look like much from this image, but Clarence is a very well-off 'burb.

Damn. Buffalo is a very close-knit, small town-kind of big city, and odds are there's only one or two degrees of separation between anyone in the region and someone on this plane.

the_wanderer: bighasbeen: When I GIS'd that I got:

Which is funny, since she's still alive..

Aaliyah is the one that died in a plane crash.

But she killed someone in a car crash. I doubt Aaliyah really needs one.

judge-z: This is a block from my house, maybe a little more. I was on the computer when it happened. There was engine noise, which isn't unusual as we're on a flight path, which ended with a loud bang. I ran downstairs, saw the sky just to the north absolutely lit up red, with a white strobing light as well. I called 911, but the lines were jammed.

After the crash, I heard two small pops, and one larger secondary explosion, all some time after the crash.

The crash is near some local restaurants and shops, a day care, and less than 100 yards from the Clarence Center volunteer fire hall. Other departments responded amazingly fast. Right now there's a minor smell in the air, but we're thankfully downwind.

Local news doesn't have a lot of details. Not sure where the Buffalo News is getting its info from, but it seems pretty consistently reported that it was a fifty passenger plane - whether or not it was full is not known yet.

Some reports indicate that at least some of the people in the home hit got out safely. I'm a little freaked as one of my coworkers lives right near the house that was hit - it may even be next door.

Holy Jesus man, godspeed.

On a slightly seperate note, that has to be the absolute suck being hit by a plane while in your house. I live near a flight path where many many many planes land every day and night. Scary thought.

Damn you Donnie Darko, damn you and your infernal time machine!

judge-z: This is a block from my house, maybe a little more. I was on the computer when it happened. There was engine noise, which isn't unusual as we're on a flight path, which ended with a loud bang. I ran downstairs, saw the sky just to the north absolutely lit up red, with a white strobing light as well. I called 911, but the lines were jammed.

After the crash, I heard two small pops, and one larger secondary explosion, all some time after the crash.

The crash is near some local restaurants and shops, a day care, and less than 100 yards from the Clarence Center volunteer fire hall. Other departments responded amazingly fast. Right now there's a minor smell in the air, but we're thankfully downwind.

Local news doesn't have a lot of details. Not sure where the Buffalo News is getting its info from, but it seems pretty consistently reported that it was a fifty passenger plane - whether or not it was full is not known yet.

Some reports indicate that at least some of the people in the home hit got out safely. I'm a little freaked as one of my coworkers lives right near the house that was hit - it may even be next door.

Yikes that's scary! :(

threefeetoffun: I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

**Clicks profile**

Yeah and I wish you were the hot female midget that I imagined from your fark handle . We can't always get want we want. Shakes angry fist

threefeetoffun: I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

Then why did you submit it?

This.

awwww man... this means there's a trifecta that has to be completed.

Do we have word on Omarian?

Link (new window)

Well, uh, I guess that's technically true.

/praying for Omarion

Omarion is safe.

Did you check Twitter?

judge-z: This is a block from my house...

Holy shiat man. I think you need to pop a beer and thank FSM he wasn't a little wide/short etc...

/wow

I get it was at Clarence Center, but where was the plane going or coming from?

Take Five: threefeetoffun: I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

Then why did you submit it?

This.

Because if news happens in Buffalo im going to submit it. More wish it was better news. Like the Bills actually win something. Wonder why the guy who submitted it 2 hours ago didnt get green light.

Awful. I'm waiting to hear about the cause of this now. Planes usually just don't falling down. :( those poor people.

Norad: SJKebab: You know its not your day when you're at home, happily watching the tv, and a place plane falls on your head.

Fireplace? Anyplace? Myplace?

I suck

Colgan Air 3407.

myalias1845: I get it was at Clarence Center, but where was the plane going or coming from?

From Newark. Looking at Google Maps, Clarence Center is right in line with the main runway just a short distance away.

Courtesy of airliners.net

If anyone wants to listen here is the ATC for KBUF during the incident
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kbuf/KBUF-Feb-13-2009-0300Z.mp3

myalias1845: I get it was at Clarence Center, but where was the plane going or coming from?

Newark

cameroncrazy1984: Um, Clarence isn't really Buffalo, Subby. But damn.

Even the News stations have an arrow pointed at Buffalo and say "suburban Buffalo" oh well

wanted for questioning

myalias1845: I get it was at Clarence Center, but where was the plane going or coming from?

It was inbound to Buffalo from Newark. Link^{^}

Hey judge-z, what did it sound like?

judge-z:

Good luck to you and everyone you know. I really hope you and your friends and family are ok.

Please pray for the families and cut the sarcasm... Or do whatever it is you do when tragedies like this occur.

Here's the area, crash on long street

View Larger Map

Dammit, we were COUNTING ON YOU!

Take Five: threefeetoffun: I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

Then why did you submit it?

This.

Perhaps because the other links submitted in the past were funnier and less depressing?

Just a thought!

Yay... lets watch CNN take advantage of a possible victims relative, LIVE!

There are a lot of people who need sarcasm to cope. Fark is the home for most of 'em. Doubt any mean disrespect, tyb.

Jeesh.

This is no good at all :(

On one side I feel really bad for the people who got hurt/killed here but now I get to take a break from the media talking about the stimulus/death package in the works. It's sad to say but I kinda miss news like this now and then.

/R.I.P

I'm from wny so I'm not getting a kick out of this story.

The Taliban Strike Back.

jackbooty: Yay... lets watch CNN take advantage of a possible victims relative, LIVE!

I thought that was a little creepy, but then again I have no idea why that guy decided to talk to the camera.

No survivors was just confirmed by Buffalo Fire.

Appears to be operated by Colgan Air, flying Newark to Buffalo.

Aren't these the first US aircraft deaths in 2 years?

SirGnarls: Holy Fark! I used to know someone that lived on that street.

Also, Colgan Air? WTF?

And why does WNY get farked over by everyone? From CNN: "Commuter plane crashes in the US State of New York"

SRSLY? Any other place in the country, it's listed as is. Here, we have to explain to the rest of the idiots that we're part of NY state. Farkin' A, we're 6 to 8 hours away from NYC, but we're all a part of NY state!!

/Freakin' A, man!

Its listed on CNN as Buffalo and as Clarence

SirGnarls: And why does WNY get farked over by everyone? From CNN: "Commuter plane crashes in the US State of New York"

That is because the coverage is being provided by CNN International so the feed you see on CNN is going out to a lot of different countries around the world. I guess all the USA CNN people are already in bed.

SpinStopper: judge-z: This is a block from my house, maybe a little more.

A BLOCK from your house? HOLY SHIAT! I'm glad you're okay!

I'm not trying to be calloused, but do you have a camera? Not necessarily for us, either. The more eyes, the better.

I have a camera, but there are people who live closer and have already taken as clear a shot of what's happened as you're going to see. They're all over the local news right now. I can't actually see the plane or the house from here - there's trees and other houses in the way. I could see the fire trucks as they left the station, and was wondering why they were moving at a crawl - the proximity of the crash would explain it.

I have no desire to be a media whore, but am totally willing to share what I have personally heard and saw.

BTW, they are now confirming 49 dead. One on the ground in that total.

I'm mildly freaked, mainly because my brain immediately went through all of the coworkers and students that I have living in that direction. As someone said, we're a pretty close knit community.

I'm just glad that my first instinct was to call 911. You never know how you'll react in situations like this until they happen. Holy shiat did I get the shakes after, though.

Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

SirGnarls: SRSLY? Any other place in the country, it's listed as is. Here, we have to explain to the rest of the idiots that we're part of NY state. Farkin' A, we're 6 to 8 hours away from NYC, but we're all a part of NY state!!

My favorite question to answer is "Oh yeah? How do you like the city?"

Radio feed (new window)

I flew over the Cascades in one of those DeHavillands, through a storm on a December evening. Never really worried but it was definitely the roughest plane ride I have ever had. And it was piloted by two blonde women to boot...

I've flown on Dash 8s and the only aircraft I hate more is the Short 360.

Take Five: threefeetoffun: I wish my first green link wasnt this one.

Then why did you submit it?

This.

Is no one not allowed to report actual news anymore? He's just saying that it sucks that this is his first greenlight. You guys need to wash the sand out of your vajayjay.

Man, some of those shots look like the poster for Sunshine.

METAR @ KBUF:

SPECI KBUF 130505Z 25012KT 4SM BR BKN008 BKN015 OVC021 01/00 A2983 RMK AO2 FZRAB0458E0459SNE0458 CIG 005V011 P0000

Rough translation: Winds out of the WSW at 12 knots, overcast with low clouds. (I don't know what the fields after AO2 mean, but having fields like that generally means that the weather isn't good)

You have to love CNN.. their crawl says
"49 passengers confirmed dead"
and then two scrolls later
"Fate of those on board unknown"

FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

Valium. Lots of it.

I'm eating some Buffalo hot wings right now, so I'm really getting a kick...

Damn :(

My heart goes out to the Buffalonians whose people were on the plane... not really feeling the jokes

FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.

/Holy hell!!!!

Relax! Math is your friend!

FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

dude US air is the same airline Sully flies for.... I'd feel safe

NewportBarGuy: They should make the whole plane a black box.

Sad. RIP.

Won't work. They wouldn't fit in a freeway lane.

And they sure wouldn't fly.

damn, havent those dash 8's been having a bunch of issues before this already?

bobbette: Damn :(

My heart goes out to the Buffalonians whose people were on the plane... not really feeling the jokes

x2, this is just a couple of miles away from the uni I went to. I've almost that same flight (except from Albany, not Newark)

I'm surprised at how fast the radio log got on the internet.

fake

cameroncrazy1984: I'm going to hell for this.

but I can't not post it.

The pilot was aiming for the runway but landed wide right.

I came here to post "wide right" but should have known that with 131 replies already in, Fark would have this covered.

InferiousX: Valium. Lots of it.

The last commercial flight I was on (several weeks ago) was a Saab 340, which is a prop plane similar in size to the plane that just crashed.

I had my skydiving gear with me as carryon luggage.

Behold, the internet age: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPoqhEHKNQk

Already on Youtube.

Holy crap. 49 is awful but I hope it stays at 49.

/flying Continental in a month
//TO LONDON
///crap

Wow, US dropping planes almost every week now.

shawnshawnery: Hey judge-z, what did it sound like?

Well, I'm piecing together part of what I heard in retrospect. I was actually playing a game with headphones on, but had them turned down low (so I can hear my daughter if she wakes up). I heard what sounded like normal engine noise - the planes go pretty much over our house this time of night - ending with a moderate sounding bang, then no more engine noise. I did not hear a crash, and by the time I got to a window, I could see fire.

After calling 911, there were two or more smaller popping sounds, and a few minutes later another, louder bang similar to the first.

Officials announcing sleet and rain combination is what caused the plane to crash.

CNN is saying it is unknown if there are any survivors.

This has been happening because of the airlines companies have been scaling back on regular farking maintenance. There is zero excuse for this kind shiat to happen.

FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

Take a deep breath. I am sure you will be okay. If you are still nervous when you board, consider letting the copilot fly.

BTW, they are now confirming 49 dead. One on the ground in that total.

They're all on the ground.

FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

You can get on any random flight anywhere in the world every single day for 100 years and chances are, you would never be in an accident. If you were in an accident, chances are you would survive.

/Yeah, I know, [citation needed]
//I'll look up the PBS documentary that stated it

Good lord. First the plane ditched in water last month, now this. Also, another plane apparently caught fire, but it was either on runway or low enough that no casualties resulted. Every day, I'm more and more resolved not to fly. I'll just stay on the ground and wait for death from above when one decides to fall into my living room.

So one person on the ground died including all the passengers on the plane according to buffalo radio.

1 dude on the ground, wow.

gm: Behold, the internet age: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPoqhEHKNQk

Already on Youtube.

The first YouTube comment I saw:

"LETS GO RAVENS! BILLS SUCK!!!!"

I really wish that person was on the plane. Asshattery of the highest order.

Plane crashed 10 miles from my old apartment up there.

Rest In Peace

Franco: This has been happening because of the airlines companies have been scaling back on regular farking maintenance. There is zero excuse for this kind shiat to happen.

The last two plane crashes: one was caused by bird strikes to both engines and by the looks of it this one is probably due to weather (really too early to tell). How does that have to do with regular maintenance?

octopied: Good lord. First the plane ditched in water last month, now this. Also, another plane apparently caught fire, but it was either on runway or low enough that no casualties resulted. Every day, I'm more and more resolved not to fly. I'll just stay on the ground and wait for death from above when one decides to fall into my living room.

You are an idiot.

WBEN in Buffalo is saying approach controller confirmed final approach and that was last contact. Female pilot.

LegacyDL: So one person on the ground died including all the passengers on the plane according to buffalo radio.

1 dude on the ground, wow.

Someone really wanted that man dead.

cameroncrazy1984: WBEN in Buffalo is saying approach controller confirmed final approach and that was last contact. Female pilot.

Well 'final approach' wasn't exactly inaccurate... =/

Weather today was really shiatty earlier on, but what we have right now isn't all that bad, honestly. Wet snow, bit of rain, no real freezing on the ground. Wind isn't that bad at all - 10-15 mph, when we had over 60mph winds this morning. Planes land here in much, much worse all the time. The most reputable local weather dude suggested he would be shocked if weather was a factor.

the most surreal thing? While this has been going on, a half dozen to a dozen other planes have landed on the same flight path, as if nothing was amiss. I'd hate to be on those planes - I've flown that path, and you can CLEARLY make out ground features at that altitude *we're just 5 miles out from the runway).

judge-z: After calling 911, there were two or more smaller popping sounds, and a few minutes later another, louder bang similar to the first.

OK, I was just wondering, because I live in South Florida right over the flight path to Ft. Lauderdale International.

Your heart must be beating so rapidly right now. Glad you're ok, and I'll be praying for the victims and their families. This is just terrible news.

Franco: This has been happening because of the airlines companies have been scaling back on regular farking maintenance. There is zero excuse for this kind shiat to happen.

Not necessarily. S**t happens, and no matter how much maintenance you perform, s**t will still happen.

Franco: This has been happening because of the airlines companies have been scaling back on regular farking maintenance. There is zero excuse for this kind shiat to happen.

I think Sully cheated Death, and Death is catching up.

I really feel for them. I'm from Buffalo/Grand Island -- it's a small town, and there's gonna be a lot of broken-hearted folks there tonight.

Listened to ATC. Icing on some of the planes, but nothing abnormal.

sinanju: FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

You can get on any random flight anywhere in the world every single day for 100 years and chances are, you would never be in an accident. If you were in an accident, chances are you would survive.

/Yeah, I know, [citation needed]
//I'll look up the PBS documentary that stated it

I'm way too exhausted to look it up, but you are spot on. The statistical odds of everyone on a plane dying in a crash are actually much lower than most people think. Matter of factly, the numbers are skewed to the high side because the freak event of Sept 11th (four plane crashes in one day with 100% fatalties) and I'd really love to see Ahab try and jack another Amercian plane in the next century.

This will be a great story in the news, for the next four days, about heroism on behalf of the flight crew, and the rescue workers on the ground. There will be tragedy and suspense among the interviews with passengers, family and friends, as well. Stay tuned.

valar_morghulis: I really feel for them. I'm from Buffalo/Grand Island -- it's a small town, and there's gonna be a lot of broken-hearted folks there tonight.

My Twitter, Facebook and AIM statuses pretty much confirm this.

/I don't social network enough.

cretinbob: Dash-8 seats 49 people?

Most of my experiences on late night regional flights involve lots of empty seats.

Why interview a woman on CNN who was on a different plane who thought about taking the flight which crashed?

That seems sort of reaching.

The photos on CNN are incredible.

Sun God: This will be a great story in the news, for the next four days, about heroism on behalf of the flight crew, and the rescue workers on the ground. There will be tragedy and suspense among the interviews with passengers, family and friends, as well. Stay tuned.

I'm waiting for the made-for-tv movie on USA Network.

This picture was just posted online. Videos are popping up on Youtube. Ah, internet.

wow. So sad.

shocking that there is a youtube video up before cnn has any real info/pictures.

cameroncrazy1984: /I don't social network enough.

Gonna call my aunt and uncle in Grand Island just to make sure none of them were in the area.

hmm gotta love wikipedia, the wiki page for the dash 8 has about as much information as cnn has been saying...

sinanju: Yeah, I know, [citation needed]

If he had a citation, he wouldn't have to be flying on a old rattling twin prop held together with duct tape and rancid grease. (And I think you're scaring him too.)

Bixia Yuanjin: Why interview a woman on CNN who was on a different plane who thought about taking the flight which crashed?

It's not CNN. It's WGRZ.

I would be hard pressed to find someone in Buffalo who has not been on a plane just like that coming back from NYC/NJ. Its a common day trip.

FiendishFellow05: Holy farking shiat. Holy farking shiat.

I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.


/Holy hell!!!!

They say a day after a crash is the safest time to fly because there hasn't been a case where a crash happened two days in a row.

/RIP

Omarion needs you now more than ever.

RoyBatty: If he had a citation, he wouldn't have to be flying on a old rattling twin prop held together with duct tape and rancid grease.

You haven't flown on an old rattling prop plane until you've flown on some of the skydiving planes I've been on.

threefeetoffun: I would be hard pressed to find someone in Buffalo who has not been on a plane just like that coming back from NYC/NJ. Its a common day trip.

I've done it. The last time I did it, it was snowing. But it was a 717.

MrsReba: wow. So sad.

shocking that there is a youtube video up before cnn has any real info/pictures.

Not really shocking at all. Less red tape.

YouTube:

1: Event happens
2: Take video
3: Upload video

CNN:

1: Event Happens
2: Take video
3: Video goes through at least a dozen hands before it gets on air
4: Reporter has to finish his/her segement with shocked family memeber before rolling the tape they just got

and so on and so forth

Looks like weather was an issue

Link (Radar grab/Flight track from FlightAware.com)

cameroncrazy1984: threefeetoffun: I would be hard pressed to find someone in Buffalo who has not been on a plane just like that coming back from NYC/NJ. Its a common day trip.

I've done it. The last time I did it, it was snowing. But it was a 717.

I did it last year for a yankee game. Got home around 11pm. No different. Well now that gas prices are low im driving next time.

Uh, where's Obama? Why isn't he on TV condemning this attack?

Lame, looks like there were fields nearby
43.012045° -78.638754°

RoyBatty: sinanju: Yeah, I know, [citation needed]

If he had a citation, he wouldn't have to be flying on a old rattling twin prop held together with duct tape and rancid grease. (And I think you're scaring him too.)

Well, on the plus side, I'm not flying on a prop plane. Flying on a Canadair Regional Jet(CRJ). Makes me feel a little better.

/Horrible farking timing.
//Those poor people.

tangside: They say a day after a crash is the safest time to fly because there hasn't been a case where a crash happened two days in a row.

Statistics don't work that way. The odds are the same regardless of what happened the previous day.

wow foxnews has way better info than cnn.

Looks like NASA was beat to the punch on its fireworks show by Continental... Except continental forgot fireworks go off in the air.

/Ticket please
//Window seat-bulkhead

AntiNorm: You haven't flown on an old rattling prop plane until you've flown on some of the skydiving planes I've been on.

Well, I guess if things go wrong with those planes you're all set t jump out already, eh?

Dude, that's farked up. I'm glad I enjoy driving to my destinations. I'm not afraid of planes or anything, I'd just rather not...you know...burn to death.

shawnshawnery: wow foxnews has way better info than cnn.

cnn is simulcasting the local nbc affiliate.

I just noticed - thanks to whomever anonymously Totalfarked me. I'm gonna head downstairs for a bit, have a drink (I'm getting over a bad cold, but I think I'm due a beer). I'll post any meaningful updates in a bit. Otherwise, g'night. Thanks for the words of support, but I don't need them. If you have a preferred deity, please direct your kind thoughts towards my friends, coworkers and students who live even closer.

Me, I'm gonna Praise Bob with a bottle of liquid slack.

Yikes. I've flown out of Newark on a those smaller Continental planes many times. I've even been on some of their prop planes like the one that went down.

I was on one of their tiny jets when one of the control surfaces in the tail jammed up. I was sitting in the last row and it was the scariest noise I've ever heard a plane make.

The pilot had to turn back and land using just the wing flaps. I was the last one off and trust me, I shook his hand and thanked him.

How many plane crashes has it been this year so far? Three or four? Or am I missing one?

It's not even mid-February!

FiendishFellow05: Well, on the plus side, I'm not flying on a prop plane. Flying on a Canadair Regional Jet(CRJ). Makes me feel a little better.

I think you'll be fine, but my Weeners to you was much funnier.

xuanzhiyouxuan: Lame, looks like there were fields nearby
43.012045° -78.638754°

Yes, I am sure the pilot said "fark that field, Im gonna take some houses out instead!!!!"

Dumbass.

This is horrible!!! :(

We have hamlets?

Obligatory?

ohmyhead: This is horrible!!! :(

We have hamlets?

Yeah, I had one at Burger King this morning.

/no planes crashed into me, though

kewlbeezer: FlightAware Link, if it hasn't already been posted (new window)

Was the plane supposed to take that huge deviation near buffalo or was that when things started to go bad?

jackbooty: xuanzhiyouxuan: Lame, looks like there were fields nearby
43.012045° -78.638754°

Yes, I am sure the pilot said "fark that field, Im gonna take some houses out instead!!!!"

Dumbass.

You. You're alright.

D-Liver: Omarion needs you now more than ever.

He's got a black box where his heart used to be.

threefeetoffun: Like the Bills actually win something.

*prays*

Zousand: Obligatory?

I actually just watched that episode this evening.

mooseyfate: Dude, that's farked up. I'm glad I enjoy driving to my destinations. I'm not afraid of planes or anything, I'd just rather not...you know...burn to death.

Number of car accident deaths in the United States in the past 2 years: 80,000
Number of airplane accident deaths in the United States in the past 2 years: 49

IronTom:
yes, from a statistics point of view, but you know the aircraft maintainers are going to work extra hard tomorrow to make sure their planes are in good condition.

True... but the engineers maintaining the QF flight from BKK to LHR won't have heard of this. Likewise, BKK commuter flights that drop out of the sky will likely have no effect in the US besides a maintenance bulletin if the manufacturer sends one out.

In a big enough environment, it all averages out.

FiendishFellow05: I'm flying on a US Airways regional jet tomorrow. I am freaking the fark out. shiatshiatshiatshiatshiat.

Don't read my earlier post then.

PSA: Coast to Coast AM is canceling tonight's show which had been scheduled to discuss spontaneous human combustion.

MSNBC just had witness claim that the plane was already on fire before it crashed.

Given the popularity and age of the Dash-8 design, there've been very FEW incidents with them.

Even accounting for years in service and numbers built, planes like say the 737, have a much higher rate of accidents.

My first wife was tarded. She's a pilot now.

deltabourne: Number of car accident deaths in the United States in the past 2 years: 80,000
Number of airplane accident deaths in the United States in the past 2 years: 49

Remember kids, the most dangerous thing you do everyday is drive your car.

/Still doesn't change the crap factor for this situation. It's too bad