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2009-02-12 04:34:20 PM  
Hmmm...it seems like Obama should have discussed the stimulus bill with his...COMMERCE SECRETARY before offering him the job...
 
2009-02-12 04:34:34 PM  
Nicee Headlinee
 
2009-02-12 04:38:09 PM  
Yet another Democrat with tax issues!
 
2009-02-12 04:40:05 PM  

Bloody William: Yet another Democrat with tax issues!


Sen. Gregg is a Republican. His replacement would have been picked by the governor of New Hampshire, a Democrat, leading to some speculation that the pick was engineered at least in part to help give the Senate a filibuster-proof Democratic majority.
 
2009-02-12 04:41:22 PM  
I'mm oldde gregg
 
2009-02-12 04:43:07 PM  

what_now: Hmmm...it seems like Obama should have discussed the stimulus bill with his...COMMERCE SECRETARY before offering him the job...


Did you even RTFA? It says Gregg said they did talk before, just didn't focus on some damn thing, yes. I think subby is right. Tax problems.
 
2009-02-12 04:43:37 PM  

Nabb1: is replacement would have been picked by the governor of New Hampshire, a Democrat, leading to some speculation that the pick was engineered at least in part to help give the Senate a filibuster-proof Democratic majority.


Except that Gregg only accepted the nomination after Gov. Lynch said he would choose a Republican. He has already announced Gregg's replacement.
 
2009-02-12 04:44:24 PM  
But what does Boxxy have to say about thiss?
 
2009-02-12 04:47:12 PM  
what_now: Except that Gregg only accepted the nomination after Gov. Lynch said he would choose a Republican. He has already announced Gregg's replacement.

Really? I expected that was the reason for the "irreconcilable differences." Well, I wonder who is the 3rd choice. Hey Obama, I'll take it.
 
2009-02-12 04:48:37 PM  

Nabb1: Bloody William: Yet another Democrat with tax issues!

Sen. Gregg is a Republican. His replacement would have been picked by the governor of New Hampshire, a Democrat, leading to some speculation that the pick was engineered at least in part to help give the Senate a filibuster-proof Democratic majority.


Except that a deal had been struck that one of the governor of New Hampshire would appoint a Republican as his replacement. I think that the GOP pressured Gnaibunto dropping out not on policy differences, but because they did not have the resources to fight for his seat in the future with what was likely going to be a weak candidate.

Current projections from the Cook Political Report put three Republican Senate seats in danger in 2010 and no Democratic seats.
 
2009-02-12 04:49:44 PM  

Nabb1: Bloody William: Yet another Democrat with tax issues!

Sen. Gregg is a Republican. His replacement would have been picked by the governor of New Hampshire, a Democrat, leading to some speculation that the pick was engineered at least in part to help give the Senate a filibuster-proof Democratic majority.


sneaky
 
2009-02-12 04:49:55 PM  
i didn't see that coming.

-wow.

i will take the job, if i am called upon.

i have a great job...but who could refuse the offer?

how does someone say "no" to the big-O?

tax problems, mr. gregg?

-wtf!?
 
2009-02-12 04:50:03 PM  

kimwim: what_now: Hmmm...it seems like Obama should have discussed the stimulus bill with his...COMMERCE SECRETARY before offering him the job...

Did you even RTFA? It says Gregg said they did talk before, just didn't focus on some damn thing, yes. I think subby is right. Tax problems.


My money is on pressure from the GOP leadership.
 
2009-02-12 04:50:08 PM  

what_now: Nabb1: is replacement would have been picked by the governor of New Hampshire, a Democrat, leading to some speculation that the pick was engineered at least in part to help give the Senate a filibuster-proof Democratic majority.

Except that Gregg only accepted the nomination after Gov. Lynch said he would choose a Republican. He has already announced Gregg's replacement.


I should have said "originally led to speculation." I forgot about the deal. I wasn't really following that aspect of the story closely.
 
2009-02-12 04:52:02 PM  

GaryPDX: Nabb1: Bloody William: Yet another Democrat with tax issues!

Sen. Gregg is a Republican. His replacement would have been picked by the governor of New Hampshire, a Democrat, leading to some speculation that the pick was engineered at least in part to help give the Senate a filibuster-proof Democratic majority.

sneaky


But, not accurate. Not at all.

Code_Archeologist: think that the GOP pressured Gnaibunto dropping out not on policy differences, but because they did not have the resources to fight for his seat in the future with what was likely going to be a weak candidate.


If true, that's disgusting. Way to put your country first, asshat.
 
2009-02-12 04:52:39 PM  
it was a line in the sand thing.

I'm glad the Cook Report is still democrat propoganda. And yes, I've said that directly to his face at lunch before.
 
2009-02-12 04:54:50 PM  
what_now: If true, that's disgusting. Way to put your country first, asshat.

Did you forget we're dealing with Republicans here?
 
2009-02-12 04:55:46 PM  
Good for him. No point taking the job if you don't agree with the policy.
 
2009-02-12 04:56:05 PM  

Code_Archeologist: Current projections from the Cook Political Report put three Republican Senate seats in danger in 2010 and no Democratic seats.


Is Vitter one of those? I hear rumblings that Mitch Landrieu - Mary's brother - may go after his seat. I shudder at the thought of two Landrieus, even though I doubt the lobbyist kick-back trough is big enough for two Landrieus.
 
2009-02-12 04:56:36 PM  

kimwim: It says Gregg said they did talk before, just didn't focus on some damn thing,


The 'some damn thing' is moving the census to the West Wing where Obama can manipulate every congressional district and electoral allotment in the US. Add this to the health care electronic monitoring proposal where the Feds will decide what is appropriate treatment for you, and I wouldn't want to be part of it either.
 
2009-02-12 04:56:48 PM  
"If true, that's disgusting. Way to put your country first, asshat."

-this.
 
2009-02-12 04:57:00 PM  
I think it might have something to do with Obama pulling the Census out of Commerce and into the White House. That is the most blatant politically based move he's made so far, without any reasonable explanation other than to give Rhambo an opportunity to favorably redistrict the country for the Dems.
 
2009-02-12 04:57:44 PM  

wyohome: The 'some damn thing' is moving the census to the West Wing where Obama can manipulate every congressional district and electoral allotment in the US. Add this to the health care electronic monitoring proposal where the Feds will decide what is appropriate treatment for you, and I wouldn't want to be part of it either.


If true, that's disgusting.
 
2009-02-12 04:58:12 PM  

GAT_00: Did you forget we're dealing with Republicans here?


He's a New England Republican. We breed 'em differently up here- just look at Senators Snowe and Collins of Maine, former senator Chafee from Rhode Island, etc. Moderates, willing to compromise and NOT owned by the Christian Right. Or as someone will call them- RINOs.

Romney doesn't count. He's a Michigan carpetbagger who no one likes.
 
2009-02-12 04:58:30 PM  

Code_Archeologist: My money is on pressure from the GOP leadership.


I see your bet and raise you fiddy cent.

And it appears the Obama people were blindsided. If he had real philosophical issues he couldn't overcome, you'd think he would have let the Obama people take care of the message.

Smells fishy. But I'll reserve judgment for now.
 
2009-02-12 04:58:42 PM  
But did he resign? I can't remember. Will there now be a new Senator from NH?
 
2009-02-12 04:58:58 PM  

knbber2: I think it might have something to do with Obama pulling the Census out of Commerce and into the White House. That is the most blatant politically based move he's made so far, without any reasonable explanation other than to give Rhambo an opportunity to favorably redistrict the country for the Dems.


That makes a lot of sense, actually. I guess everyone was assuming the stimulus plan was the issue, but that certainly sounds more likely.
 
2009-02-12 04:59:10 PM  

bradkanus: it was a line in the sand thing.

I'm glad the Cook Report is still democrat propoganda. And yes, I've said that directly to his face at lunch before.


You know Charlie?
 
2009-02-12 04:59:13 PM  

what_now: But, not accurate. Not at all.


Something is going on. Why would he about face like that?
 
2009-02-12 05:00:13 PM  

Nabb1: knbber2: I think it might have something to do with Obama pulling the Census out of Commerce and into the White House. That is the most blatant politically based move he's made so far, without any reasonable explanation other than to give Rhambo an opportunity to favorably redistrict the country for the Dems.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. I guess everyone was assuming the stimulus plan was the issue, but that certainly sounds more likely.


I'll agree with that. Gregg has his own opinions on Census. But still, sloppy handling.
 
2009-02-12 05:00:48 PM  

kimwim: But did he resign? I can't remember. Will there now be a new Senator from NH?


You usually don't resign your seat until you're confirmed.
 
2009-02-12 05:00:49 PM  

Nabb1: Code_Archeologist: Current projections from the Cook Political Report put three Republican Senate seats in danger in 2010 and no Democratic seats.

Is Vitter one of those? I hear rumblings that Mitch Landrieu - Mary's brother - may go after his seat. I shudder at the thought of two Landrieus, even though I doubt the lobbyist kick-back trough is big enough for two Landrieus.


Vitter is one, along with Martinez (Florida), and Bunning (Kentucky).

Martinez is facing a state that is shifting away from him politically. Bunning is likely retiring and there are no strong GOP candidates to take his place.
 
2009-02-12 05:02:11 PM  

Code_Archeologist: Vitter is one, along with Martinez (Florida), and Bunning (Kentucky).

Martinez is facing a state that is shifting away from him politically. Bunning is likely retiring and there are no strong GOP candidates to take his place.


Correction: Martinez isn't running again.
 
2009-02-12 05:02:43 PM  

Diogenes: But still, sloppy handling.


I disagree. He is dealing with a White House full of dirtbags. You don't play nice Rahmbo.
 
2009-02-12 05:02:45 PM  

kimwim: But did he resign? I can't remember. Will there now be a new Senator from NH?


No. He had not yet resigned. He doesn't have to actually resign till the confirmation hearings begin.
 
2009-02-12 05:02:49 PM  

GaryPDX: Something is going on. Why would he about face like that?


Possible reasons:

1. Tax issues, or some other dirty laundry.
2. NE is trending Democratic- EVEN NH. Gregg is well respected up there, but the person Gov. Lynch put in his place already said she wouldn't run for reelection. That means the GOP would need to fight for what is currently a safe seat.
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4573. Actual disagreement with the president.
 
2009-02-12 05:03:21 PM  
"wait until we get back in power!" -republicans

"wait until we get back in power!" -democrats

/rinse repeat?

we deserve better.

-and now we are seeing it.

we have george bush to thank for barack obama.

-soooo...thanks chimpy mcflightsuit!!!!
 
2009-02-12 05:03:22 PM  

Code_Archeologist: Nabb1: Code_Archeologist: Current projections from the Cook Political Report put three Republican Senate seats in danger in 2010 and no Democratic seats.

Is Vitter one of those? I hear rumblings that Mitch Landrieu - Mary's brother - may go after his seat. I shudder at the thought of two Landrieus, even though I doubt the lobbyist kick-back trough is big enough for two Landrieus.

Vitter is one, along with Martinez (Florida), and Bunning (Kentucky).

Martinez is facing a state that is shifting away from him politically. Bunning is likely retiring and there are no strong GOP candidates to take his place.


I thought as much with Vitter. I can't see Louisiana voting Mitch in with Mary there, though. Besides, this guy recently caused a stir for spending $1 million in state money to redecorate his office and apartment in Baton Rouge.
 
2009-02-12 05:04:09 PM  

wyohome: Diogenes: But still, sloppy handling.

I disagree. He is dealing with a White House full of dirtbags. You don't play nice Rahmbo.


Ok, well ignoring the trollish aspects of what you just said, what do you think Obama's reaction will be to him now? I think Gregg just made an enemy.
 
2009-02-12 05:04:22 PM  

wyohome: Diogenes: But still, sloppy handling.

I disagree. He is dealing with a White House full of dirtbags. You don't play nice Rahmbo.


I don't care. When you're invited to join the cabinet, you show some courtesy. Parties notwithstanding.
 
2009-02-12 05:05:18 PM  

what_now: I think Gregg just made an enemy.


He and Lieberman will be sitting at their own table in the Senate cafeteria.
 
2009-02-12 05:05:24 PM  

Diogenes: Code_Archeologist: Vitter is one, along with Martinez (Florida), and Bunning (Kentucky).

Martinez is facing a state that is shifting away from him politically. Bunning is likely retiring and there are no strong GOP candidates to take his place.

Correction: Martinez isn't running again.


Writing on the wall... better to quit while you are on top I guess. It will be interesting to see if Charlie Crist tries running for the seat (I give it 50/50 odds, despite what he has said).
 
2009-02-12 05:05:42 PM  

Bauer: we have george bush to thank for barack obama.

-soooo...thanks chimpy mcflightsuit!!!!


I also blame Bush for making Will Ferrel a superstar. There is no penance that can atone for that sin.
 
2009-02-12 05:06:24 PM  

wyohome: I disagree. He is dealing with a White House full of dirtbags.


No... Cheney's not there anymore.
 
2009-02-12 05:06:32 PM  

what_now: what do you think Obama's reaction will be to him now?


I wouldn't worry about Obama, Rahm doesn't want this census thing made public though. This is the one way that the Dems could never be voted out.
 
2009-02-12 05:09:03 PM  
"I don't care. When you're invited to join the cabinet, you show some courtesy. Parties notwithstanding."

-yes.

you didn't see that with gwb.

it must be scary to think of the gops prospects for 2010.

for the gop, that is.
 
2009-02-12 05:09:42 PM  

Diogenes: bradkanus: it was a line in the sand thing.

I'm glad the Cook Report is still democrat propoganda. And yes, I've said that directly to his face at lunch before.

You know Charlie?


Yes - as of a matter of fact I do.

subby I'd be an ass if I didn't give you props for that littlee thingg youu didd theree.
 
2009-02-12 05:10:40 PM  

Diogenes: I don't care. When you're invited to join the cabinet, you show some courtesy.


I must have missed the part where he didn't wipe his feet on the way in. What exactly is discourteous about this?
 
2009-02-12 05:10:55 PM  

Bauer: we have george bush to thank for barack obama.

-soooo...thanks chimpy mcflightsuit!!!!


Is there anything that guy can't do?
 
2009-02-12 05:10:56 PM  
wyohome: He is dealing with a White House full of dirtbags

No, see that got fixed back on Jan 20.
 
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