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(Major League Baseball)   Adam Dunn will officially join the Washington Nationals today, marking his swift descent into obscurity   (mlb.mlb.com) divider line 44
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2009-02-12 02:06:53 PM
Book it. Dunn.

/repeat?
 
2009-02-12 02:09:06 PM
You can consider him "Well Dunn"?

//link picture of old WWF Tag Team "Well Dunn" plz
 
2009-02-12 02:09:12 PM
Who?
 
2009-02-12 02:11:55 PM
The Onanist: Who?

No, that's Jim Nidehart.

Well Dunn
www.obsessedwithwrestling.com

//hot like Ricky Steamboat
 
2009-02-12 02:14:55 PM
Wha? Didn't we already have a thread on this this morning?

Why'd we kill that one to replace it with this one?

/sick of being a liter.
 
2009-02-12 02:17:31 PM
It's so hard to follow baseball. Last year I went to about 70 D-backs games and watched another 30 or so on TV. I have no idea who will be on the team this year.

I saw Lyon left. Good riddance.
 
2009-02-12 02:26:17 PM
xnewnoisex: No, that's Jim Nidehart.

I met his neice at a party recently.

I dont remember that tag team. I dont know if that is a good or bad thing.

/"Still bah bah....."
 
2009-02-12 02:31:29 PM
Gunny Highway: xnewnoisex: No, that's Jim Nidehart.

I met his neice at a party recently.

I dont remember that tag team. I dont know if that is a good or bad thing.

/"Still bah bah....."


They were JTTS. I barely remember them myself.

Niedharts niece is hot though. we need to post pics
 
2009-02-12 02:33:39 PM
www.obsessedwithwrestling.com

Said female in question.
 
2009-02-12 02:39:26 PM
xnewnoisex: Niedharts niece is hot though. we need to post pics

Different niece but also hot.

Oh yea. Adam Dunn....he strikes out alot but is still a good pick up. Or something. I am trying to remember what I read in the Adam Dunn thread from yesterday.
 
2009-02-12 02:50:32 PM
Gunny Highway: Different niece but also hot.

Oh yea. Adam Dunn....he strikes out alot but is still a good pick up. Or something. I am trying to remember what I read in the Adam Dunn thread from yesterday.


It's a good signing. The career .900 OPS makes up for the rough defense. Not that the Nats are going to contend anyways, but he definitely makes the team better, and didn't cost too much in money and years besides.
 
2009-02-12 02:57:54 PM
Manny managed this team as though he had a homerun hitter like Dunn in the line-up last year. So naturally he'll try to play small ball this year. Yay.

/GO NATS!
 
2009-02-12 03:04:41 PM
Do the Nats still have Dmitri Young? How many fat, unathletic dudes do they need over there?

Dunn should have been a DH
 
2009-02-12 03:41:08 PM
he will still find a way to hit at least 2 walk off homers against Pedro Feliciano this season.

/hates that guy
//mets fan
 
2009-02-12 03:45:17 PM
Is Kearns still on the Nats? There were a lot of rumors about those 2 closing bars on a regular basis in Cincinnati. This should be good.
 
2009-02-12 05:13:53 PM
The donkey plays terrible defense and strikes out a lot.

But when he hits it, it's fun to watch.
 
2009-02-12 05:48:50 PM
the Nationals now have about 17 outfielders competing for 3 spots
 
2009-02-12 06:33:22 PM
Dunn is a few bad years and 120 home runs away from the Mendoza line. Who does he think he is, Mike Schmidt?

Love the ballpark, but the team couldn't be more obscure.
 
2009-02-12 07:46:10 PM
Reds 2.0 is nearly complete.

The Nats are lucky to have him. Yes he strikes out a lot, but he also hits the ball 500 feet. If someone can get on base in front of him, he'd lead the majors in rbi's.
 
2009-02-12 09:52:39 PM
mybulkaddress: Reds 2.0 is nearly complete.

The Nats are lucky to have him. Yes he strikes out a lot, but he also hits the ball 500 feet. If someone can get on base in front of him, he'd lead the majors in rbi's.


big if with that team.
 
2009-02-12 11:30:33 PM
i'm a nats fan and there are days i feel like the nerds in the beginning of major league...who are these guys?

then again...i'd don't really follow who is on the team. it is a nice background noise during the summer. keeps the news off the tv.
 
2009-02-13 07:37:44 AM
Mateorocks: Love the ballpark, but the team couldn't be more obscure.

They could always move back to Montreal. That would be obscure.

/youppi!
 
2009-02-13 10:35:47 AM
Mateorocks: Dunn is a few bad years and 120 home runs away from the Mendoza line. Who does he think he is, Mike Schmidt?

Love the ballpark, but the team couldn't be more obscure.


Says the dodo who doesn't have a clue about OBP.
 
2009-02-13 10:44:40 AM
Derwood: the Nationals now have about 17 outfielders competing for 3 spots

And no pitching...Go Nats....Go Shawn Hill's elbow!!!

Seriously though, are all 17 of them really competing? I know Dukes, Millege, Kearns, and Pena are competing. I imagine Pena will be the rotation guy but the rest are rookies and 30 year old journeymen.
 
2009-02-13 11:41:42 AM
dhudd: Mateorocks: Dunn is a few bad years and 120 home runs away from the Mendoza line. Who does he think he is, Mike Schmidt?

Love the ballpark, but the team couldn't be more obscure.

Says the dodo who doesn't have a clue about OBP.


sometimes you'd rather have a pujols than a dunn.. well, actually, all the time.

/not a particular fan of an all or nothing type of guy, rather have a guy that makes every kind of hit and is also patient
 
2009-02-13 12:36:30 PM
bhcompy: dhudd: Mateorocks: Dunn is a few bad years and 120 home runs away from the Mendoza line. Who does he think he is, Mike Schmidt?

Love the ballpark, but the team couldn't be more obscure.

Says the dodo who doesn't have a clue about OBP.

sometimes you'd rather have a pujols than a dunn.. well, actually, all the time.

/not a particular fan of an all or nothing type of guy, rather have a guy that makes every kind of hit and is also patient


On that last word - do you know that Dunn takes more pitches than virtually every hitter in baseball? A .380 on base percentage with 40 homeruns is HUGE. The strikeouts, who know who else struck out a lot (hint, they named candy bars after them). A serious power hitter in the middle of the lineup makes everyone around him better. This is nothing but 100% good for the Nats. They might even make .500 this year.
 
2009-02-13 01:06:31 PM
dhudd:

On that last word - do you know that Dunn takes more pitches than virtually every hitter in baseball? A .380 on base percentage with 40 homeruns is HUGE. The strikeouts, who know who else struck out a lot (hint, they named candy bars after them). A serious power hitter in the middle of the lineup makes everyone around him better. This is nothing but 100% good for the Nats. They might even make .500 this year.


If that's the case then why were the A's terrible last year? Jack Cust was in the middle of their lineup, hit .233, 33 bombs(in 500AB, 1 per 14.6 ab), walked 111 times, struck out 197 times, had a .375 obp, and 52 xbh. Dunn put up slightly better numbers(.236 avg, 40 bombs(1 per 12.9ab), .386 obp, 122 bb, 164 k, 63xbh).

Cincinnati had Dunn for most of the year and was terrible(14 games under .500) and Arizona was a much better team and was 2 games over .500. Washington was 43 games under .500. I don't think Dunn makes Washington a .500 team, especially seeing someone like Cust, who is similar to Dunn, put up similar numbers in a heavy pitchers park and have the team still not crack .500 eventhough they have a more talented roster and are the quintessential moneyball team.
 
2009-02-13 01:39:07 PM
bhcompy: dhudd:

On that last word - do you know that Dunn takes more pitches than virtually every hitter in baseball? A .380 on base percentage with 40 homeruns is HUGE. The strikeouts, who know who else struck out a lot (hint, they named candy bars after them). A serious power hitter in the middle of the lineup makes everyone around him better. This is nothing but 100% good for the Nats. They might even make .500 this year.

If that's the case then why were the A's terrible last year? Jack Cust was in the middle of their lineup, hit .233, 33 bombs(in 500AB, 1 per 14.6 ab), walked 111 times, struck out 197 times, had a .375 obp, and 52 xbh. Dunn put up slightly better numbers(.236 avg, 40 bombs(1 per 12.9ab), .386 obp, 122 bb, 164 k, 63xbh).

Cincinnati had Dunn for most of the year and was terrible(14 games under .500) and Arizona was a much better team and was 2 games over .500. Washington was 43 games under .500. I don't think Dunn makes Washington a .500 team, especially seeing someone like Cust, who is similar to Dunn, put up similar numbers in a heavy pitchers park and have the team still not crack .500 eventhough they have a more talented roster and are the quintessential moneyball team.


One assumes that the Nats won't have the most injuries in baseball (by far) this year.
 
2009-02-13 02:18:47 PM
bhcompy: If that's the case then why were the A's terrible last year? Jack Cust was in the middle of their lineup, hit .233, 33 bombs(in 500AB, 1 per 14.6 ab), walked 111 times, struck out 197 times, had a .375 obp, and 52 xbh. Dunn put up slightly better numbers(.236 avg, 40 bombs(1 per 12.9ab), .386 obp, 122 bb, 164 k, 63xbh).

Let me get this straight: you ask why the A's were terrible, and then simply list their best hitter. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but baseball is actually a team sport. So let's look at the rest of the team:

Kurt Suzuki: OK season
Daric Barton: Terrible season for a 1B
Ellis: Not his best season ever, but still ok
Bobby Crosby: Terrible season (TANGENT: Bobby Crosby claims he worked out with McGwire in the offseason. why would anyone admit that?)
Jack Hannahan: Terrible Season
Jack Cust: By far their best hitter last season.
Carlos Gonzalez: Terrible
R.Sweeney: Decent
Frank Thomas: Decent

And everyone on the bench had below league average production except Chris Denorfia (minimum 50 PA).

So that's why they were terrible. For the record, they averaged 4.01 runs per game, which is horribly low. To stick with the "OBP is good" theme, they had an OBP of .318. That's really low. And they yet, they still got third place in the division, and were 3.5 games back of second.

Oh, and I have a feeling you're using the word "Moneyball" wrong, but that's probably a little too complicated to explain to you, so you might just want to avoid using it in the future.
 
2009-02-13 02:48:38 PM
DeWayne Mann: bhcompy: If that's the case then why were the A's terrible last year? Jack Cust was in the middle of their lineup, hit .233, 33 bombs(in 500AB, 1 per 14.6 ab), walked 111 times, struck out 197 times, had a .375 obp, and 52 xbh. Dunn put up slightly better numbers(.236 avg, 40 bombs(1 per 12.9ab), .386 obp, 122 bb, 164 k, 63xbh).

Let me get this straight: you ask why the A's were terrible, and then simply list their best hitter. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but baseball is actually a team sport. So let's look at the rest of the team:

Kurt Suzuki: OK season
Daric Barton: Terrible season for a 1B
Ellis: Not his best season ever, but still ok
Bobby Crosby: Terrible season (TANGENT: Bobby Crosby claims he worked out with McGwire in the offseason. why would anyone admit that?)
Jack Hannahan: Terrible Season
Jack Cust: By far their best hitter last season.
Carlos Gonzalez: Terrible
R.Sweeney: Decent
Frank Thomas: Decent

And everyone on the bench had below league average production except Chris Denorfia (minimum 50 PA).

So that's why they were terrible. For the record, they averaged 4.01 runs per game, which is horribly low. To stick with the "OBP is good" theme, they had an OBP of .318. That's really low. And they yet, they still got third place in the division, and were 3.5 games back of second.

Oh, and I have a feeling you're using the word "Moneyball" wrong, but that's probably a little too complicated to explain to you, so you might just want to avoid using it in the future.


dhudd claimed that dunn could make the worst team in baseball a 500 team, which has been getting nl teams in the playoffs recently. the a's were better than the nats, have better players/get more from them, and cust as the power catalyst(which is what dunn will be) did not make them a 500 team. its absurd to claim dunn will have that much influence
 
2009-02-13 03:07:44 PM
bhcompy: DeWayne Mann: bhcompy: If that's the case then why were the A's terrible last year? Jack Cust was in the middle of their lineup, hit .233, 33 bombs(in 500AB, 1 per 14.6 ab), walked 111 times, struck out 197 times, had a .375 obp, and 52 xbh. Dunn put up slightly better numbers(.236 avg, 40 bombs(1 per 12.9ab), .386 obp, 122 bb, 164 k, 63xbh).

Let me get this straight: you ask why the A's were terrible, and then simply list their best hitter. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but baseball is actually a team sport. So let's look at the rest of the team:

Kurt Suzuki: OK season
Daric Barton: Terrible season for a 1B
Ellis: Not his best season ever, but still ok
Bobby Crosby: Terrible season (TANGENT: Bobby Crosby claims he worked out with McGwire in the offseason. why would anyone admit that?)
Jack Hannahan: Terrible Season
Jack Cust: By far their best hitter last season.
Carlos Gonzalez: Terrible
R.Sweeney: Decent
Frank Thomas: Decent

And everyone on the bench had below league average production except Chris Denorfia (minimum 50 PA).

So that's why they were terrible. For the record, they averaged 4.01 runs per game, which is horribly low. To stick with the "OBP is good" theme, they had an OBP of .318. That's really low. And they yet, they still got third place in the division, and were 3.5 games back of second.

Oh, and I have a feeling you're using the word "Moneyball" wrong, but that's probably a little too complicated to explain to you, so you might just want to avoid using it in the future.

dhudd claimed that dunn could make the worst team in baseball a 500 team, which has been getting nl teams in the playoffs recently. the a's were better than the nats, have better players/get more from them, and cust as the power catalyst(which is what dunn will be) did not make them a 500 team. its absurd to claim dunn will have that much influence


Hum, what other team went from worst to best recently? I'm pretty sure you know who I'm talking about - hazard a guess? Hint, the city begins with a T and has a B also. Nice of you to not notice how many injuries the Nats had last year.
 
2009-02-13 03:11:13 PM
bhcompy: dhudd claimed that dunn could make the worst team in baseball a 500 team, which has been getting nl teams in the playoffs recently. the a's were better than the nats, have better players/get more from them, and cust as the power catalyst(which is what dunn will be) did not make them a 500 team. its absurd to claim dunn will have that much influence

Except Dunn probably will make them a 500 team. PECOTA already projected the nats as a 79 win team, and I don't think it's out of the question that Dunn can provide 2 extra wins.

I feel you're forgetting that the nats made a few other moves this offseason. We're not talking about "Dunn makes the '08 Nats a .500 team," we're talking "Dunn makes the Nats of 3 days ago a .500 team."

Are you really not getting this?
 
2009-02-13 03:12:26 PM
bhcompy: dhudd claimed that dunn could make the worst team in baseball a 500 team, which has been getting nl teams in the playoffs recently

Oh, and, .500 won't win the NL east. .500 is only good enough to make the playoffs in the AL West or the NL West.
 
2009-02-13 03:36:17 PM
DeWayne Mann: bhcompy: dhudd claimed that dunn could make the worst team in baseball a 500 team, which has been getting nl teams in the playoffs recently

Oh, and, .500 won't win the NL east. .500 is only good enough to make the playoffs in the AL West or the NL West.


Is someone saying .500 will win the NL east? I didn't see that anywhere.
 
2009-02-13 04:04:56 PM
dhudd: Is someone saying .500 will win the NL east? I didn't see that anywhere.

Look at what I quoted. He's saying that a .500 team in the NL can get into the playoffs. The nats are in the east, so the only conclusion I can make is that he thinks .500 could win the NL East (or the wild card, which makes even less sense).
 
2009-02-13 04:22:38 PM
DeWayne Mann: dhudd: Is someone saying .500 will win the NL east? I didn't see that anywhere.

Look at what I quoted. He's saying that a .500 team in the NL can get into the playoffs. The nats are in the east, so the only conclusion I can make is that he thinks .500 could win the NL East (or the wild card, which makes even less sense).


Oh, I see, I missed that before. Nope, .500 probably gets second to last in the east.
 
2009-02-13 04:26:54 PM
DeWayne Mann: dhudd: Is someone saying .500 will win the NL east? I didn't see that anywhere.

Look at what I quoted. He's saying that a .500 team in the NL can get into the playoffs. The nats are in the east, so the only conclusion I can make is that he thinks .500 could win the NL East (or the wild card, which makes even less sense).


I'm saying the story of the NL the past few years has been if you target 80 wins, you're in the race, and if you hit 85-90 you're most likely in the playoffs. In the AL, if you hit 90 you're in the race and 95-100 you're in the playoffs. 81 is 500, becoming a 500 team in the NL(divisions shift from year to year, im talking overall) generally puts you in contention for a playoff spot.

As far as Dunn and the other signees fixing the Nats. The Nats need to be fixed from the inside-out to some degree, not the other way around. Someone brought up the Rays, and they were fixed by their farm system and a few veteran free agents, not by signing sluggers(which they did before to no effect). The team hasn't been competitive for longer than the Rays and while Ray like turnarounds are possible, they aren't probable.
 
2009-02-13 04:50:02 PM
bhcompy: I'm saying the story of the NL the past few years has been if you target 80 wins, you're in the race, and if you hit 85-90 you're most likely in the playoffs. In the AL, if you hit 90 you're in the race and 95-100 you're in the playoffs. 81 is 500, becoming a 500 team in the NL(divisions shift from year to year, im talking overall) generally puts you in contention for a playoff spot.

As far as Dunn and the other signees fixing the Nats. The Nats need to be fixed from the inside-out to some degree, not the other way around. Someone brought up the Rays, and they were fixed by their farm system and a few veteran free agents, not by signing sluggers(which they did before to no effect). The team hasn't been competitive for longer than the Rays and while Ray like turnarounds are possible, they aren't probable.


You're like talking to a wall.

A .500 team will not be in playoff contention in the NL East this season. End of story. It won't win the East, and it certainly won't win the wild card.

As for the nats, perhaps you should look at what they actually did. It's not just signing FAs. They also made some good trades, and as dhudd has pointed out several times, they had a high number of injuries last season.

And, btw, as for them not being competitive: I'd agree, except they were 81-81 in 2005, which clearly makes them a playoff team (even though they placed 5th in the NL East). And don't even look at 2003, or your head might explode.
 
2009-02-13 05:15:10 PM
DeWayne Mann: bhcompy: I'm saying the story of the NL the past few years has been if you target 80 wins, you're in the race, and if you hit 85-90 you're most likely in the playoffs. In the AL, if you hit 90 you're in the race and 95-100 you're in the playoffs. 81 is 500, becoming a 500 team in the NL(divisions shift from year to year, im talking overall) generally puts you in contention for a playoff spot.

As far as Dunn and the other signees fixing the Nats. The Nats need to be fixed from the inside-out to some degree, not the other way around. Someone brought up the Rays, and they were fixed by their farm system and a few veteran free agents, not by signing sluggers(which they did before to no effect). The team hasn't been competitive for longer than the Rays and while Ray like turnarounds are possible, they aren't probable.

You're like talking to a wall.

A .500 team will not be in playoff contention in the NL East this season. End of story. It won't win the East, and it certainly won't win the wild card.

As for the nats, perhaps you should look at what they actually did. It's not just signing FAs. They also made some good trades, and as dhudd has pointed out several times, they had a high number of injuries last season.

And, btw, as for them not being competitive: I'd agree, except they were 81-81 in 2005, which clearly makes them a playoff team (even though they placed 5th in the NL East). And don't even look at 2003, or your head might explode.


Risking derision here from the average farker, but I'm getting a feeling that E. Dukes is going to have a monster year and Millage is going to up his numbers somewhat. If Guzman hits and they find any decent pitching, .500 is very reasonable. In fact, they could really surprise if a couple of the pitchers (Olson and Cabrerra sp?) have decent, injury free seasons. Also, Hanrahan could become a very good closer.

I love spring training - everyone gets to feel good about their team.
 
2009-02-13 05:23:04 PM
DeWayne Mann: bhcompy: I'm saying the story of the NL the past few years has been if you target 80 wins, you're in the race, and if you hit 85-90 you're most likely in the playoffs. In the AL, if you hit 90 you're in the race and 95-100 you're in the playoffs. 81 is 500, becoming a 500 team in the NL(divisions shift from year to year, im talking overall) generally puts you in contention for a playoff spot.

As far as Dunn and the other signees fixing the Nats. The Nats need to be fixed from the inside-out to some degree, not the other way around. Someone brought up the Rays, and they were fixed by their farm system and a few veteran free agents, not by signing sluggers(which they did before to no effect). The team hasn't been competitive for longer than the Rays and while Ray like turnarounds are possible, they aren't probable.

You're like talking to a wall.

A .500 team will not be in playoff contention in the NL East this season. End of story. It won't win the East, and it certainly won't win the wild card.

As for the nats, perhaps you should look at what they actually did. It's not just signing FAs. They also made some good trades, and as dhudd has pointed out several times, they had a high number of injuries last season.

And, btw, as for them not being competitive: I'd agree, except they were 81-81 in 2005, which clearly makes them a playoff team (even though they placed 5th in the NL East). And don't even look at 2003, or your head might explode.


Checked out your profile - I agree with your baseball stat analysis 100%. Red Soxs are my AL team (were my dad's team).
 
2009-02-13 05:28:57 PM
dhudd: Risking derision here from the average farker, but I'm getting a feeling that E. Dukes is going to have a monster year and Millage is going to up his numbers somewhat. If Guzman hits and they find any decent pitching, .500 is very reasonable. In fact, they could really surprise if a couple of the pitchers (Olson and Cabrerra sp?) have decent, injury free seasons. Also, Hanrahan could become a very good closer.

I love spring training - everyone gets to feel good about their team.


Eh, I more or less agree with you. Maybe not about Lastings (most of the projections only have him gaining 20 to 30 points of OPS over last year, so I don't know if that's what you were suggesting), but otherwise, yeah.

You might like this article about Dukes.

The real question is what they're going to do with Nick Johnson. It almost makes more sense to go with him at first, Dunn in left, Dukes in center, and then everyone else in right. They should probably try and trade some of those extra OFs for pitching (maybe to Atlanta/SF?). Deal from strength and all that.
 
2009-02-13 05:30:37 PM
dhudd: Checked out your profile - I agree with your baseball stat analysis 100%. Red Soxs are my AL team (were my dad's team).

Thanks. Nats are kinda my NL team (definitely top 3, along with Giants & Braves), so it seems we're two sides of the same coin.
 
2009-02-13 05:50:37 PM
DeWayne Mann: dhudd: Risking derision here from the average farker, but I'm getting a feeling that E. Dukes is going to have a monster year and Millage is going to up his numbers somewhat. If Guzman hits and they find any decent pitching, .500 is very reasonable. In fact, they could really surprise if a couple of the pitchers (Olson and Cabrerra sp?) have decent, injury free seasons. Also, Hanrahan could become a very good closer.

I love spring training - everyone gets to feel good about their team.

Eh, I more or less agree with you. Maybe not about Lastings (most of the projections only have him gaining 20 to 30 points of OPS over last year, so I don't know if that's what you were suggesting), but otherwise, yeah.

You might like this article about Dukes.

The real question is what they're going to do with Nick Johnson. It almost makes more sense to go with him at first, Dunn in left, Dukes in center, and then everyone else in right. They should probably try and trade some of those extra OFs for pitching (maybe to Atlanta/SF?). Deal from strength and all that.


Here's what they HAVE to do: Let Nick see if he can stay healthy. If he does, he plays first (he's one of the very best at digging balls out of the dirt, just simply outstanding). If he gets hurt and has to go on DL, he's done at that point and Dunn (pardon me please) is made the permanent first baseman.

I also would play Dukes in center (despite his amazing arm for right). I accept your numbers for Millage, that would be acceptable (perhaps a platoon in rf with Kearns, who has to play well, right from the start).
 
2009-02-13 05:56:48 PM
dhudd: Here's what they HAVE to do: Let Nick see if he can stay healthy. If he does, he plays first (he's one of the very best at digging balls out of the dirt, just simply outstanding). If he gets hurt and has to go on DL, he's done at that point and Dunn (pardon me please) is made the permanent first baseman.

I also would play Dukes in center (despite his amazing arm for right). I accept your numbers for Millage, that would be acceptable (perhaps a platoon in rf with Kearns, who has to play well, right from the start).


It's worth noting that Nick Johnson is apparently requesting a trade (which would be a bad move for the Nats, since they wouldn't get much for him at the moment, thanks to injuries), and that (prior to the signing of Dunn), he was projected to be the best hitter on the team this season.

But I'd guess, come August, Dunn is the 1B no matter what (unless they go ahead and trade some OFs). If NJ is hurt, then this is obvious. But if he's not, he'd probably be really good trade bait for the deadline (basically every AL West team could use an upgrade at 1B, for instance). I think we agree they're not making the playoffs this year, but they've got a better shot next year. So trading Johnson this year might be a good move to help that goal.
 
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