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(Daily Kos)   Mahmoud Ahma... ahma... Ahma not gonna be President anymore, anyway   (dailykos.com) divider line
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2009-02-08 11:29:14 PM  
I LOVE THIS HEADLINE SO MUCH
 
2009-02-08 11:36:58 PM  
Rock on, this would be awesome. Might actually be able to pull something out of that charlie foxtrot in the desert after all.
 
2009-02-08 11:40:21 PM  
 
2009-02-08 11:44:23 PM  
Try not to get too excited. Ahmadinnerjacket is full of suprises.
 
2009-02-09 12:00:24 AM  

Bucky Katt: Try not to get too excited. Ahmadinnerjacket is full of suprises.


I guess that's in the fear handbook: always say the enemy is cleverer than he really is.
 
2009-02-09 02:50:54 AM  
Awesome. I hope it's true.
 
2009-02-09 01:33:16 PM  
This is good news for. . . .everybody.
 
2009-02-09 01:35:19 PM  
THIS IS A fark!
 
2009-02-09 01:37:04 PM  

DarnoKonrad: This is good news for. . . .everybody.


It's bad news for the Palin 2012, which was going to run their entire campaign on the position of killing this guy who they believed to be the King of Muslim Land.
 
2009-02-09 01:37:13 PM  
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2009-02-09 01:37:24 PM  
somebody please post the "I might hit it " pic featuring Mahmoud Imanutjob.....
 
2009-02-09 01:37:40 PM  
"Cool" would be "Iranian moderates kick out Supreme Council."
 
2009-02-09 01:38:03 PM  
Thievery!

Link

/still bitter I didn't get the green
//cue that douchebag telling me my headline sucked from the thread that did go green
///works better in this situation anyway, so props to you, Subby.
 
2009-02-09 01:39:44 PM  
Fools! He'll just be promoted to Supreme Leader. Or something. We emboldened him by electing Obama.
 
2009-02-09 01:39:56 PM  
If the new guy is being supported by the Iranian Supreme Council and Ayatollah Khammeni, just how much better will he be?
 
2009-02-09 01:40:33 PM  
I've said all along (so has Persepolis) that all the Iranian govt needs to do to get rid of A-jad is to have a reformist on the ballot that isn't a complete joke... and he'll win. So long as nothing too turbulent happens in the next six months, Khatami will win and our own hardline freaks and Israel-first tools will have lost their greatest reason to waver from peace.

It's not a *huge* shift in Iranian politics though. He's been president before, and not a whole lot changed since the position holds little *real* power, but it's a lot easier to negotiate with them with A-jad out. Just like Bush being gone makes it easier for us as well (this likely wouldn't have happened if Obama didn't win). This is a very good thing.
 
2009-02-09 01:40:43 PM  

Gangway Fathead: "Cool" would be "Iranian moderates kick out Supreme Council."


I read that totally wrong...Thinking, how is that cool?
 
2009-02-09 01:43:49 PM  
What, just because a Kos blogger says so???
 
2009-02-09 01:44:02 PM  

Gangway Fathead: "Cool" would be "Iranian moderates kick out Supreme Council."


That's a pipe dream. It would take a revolution. Reform is the only real hope short- and long-term.
 
2009-02-09 01:44:22 PM  
Love the "Office Space" reference.

/LOVE IT!
 
2009-02-09 01:44:31 PM  
When you stop calling Iran the enemy, support for idiots like this begins to dry up.
 
2009-02-09 01:45:54 PM  
Not so fast with the congrats just yet...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/world/middleeast/09iran.html?ref=mid​dleeast

(no linky because Fark hates the NYT)
 
2009-02-09 01:46:18 PM  

Edsel: What, just because a Kos blogger says so???


Yes, just because a Kos blogger says so. It's not like the worldwide press has been eagerly anticipating such an announcement for weeks.
 
2009-02-09 01:46:42 PM  

Gangway Fathead: "Cool" would be "Iranian moderates kick out Supreme Council."


Small steps, my friend.
 
2009-02-09 01:47:06 PM  

LarryDan43: DarnoKonrad: This is good news for. . . .everybody.

It's bad news for the Palin 2012, which was going to run their entire campaign on the position of killing this guy who they believed to be the King of Muslin Land.


ftfy

/and not the half breed kind.
 
2009-02-09 01:47:21 PM  

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: Thievery!

Link

/still bitter I didn't get the green


I submitted it as well. Hold the tears.

mofomisfit: If the new guy is being supported by the Iranian Supreme Council and Ayatollah Khammeni, just how much better will he be?


Consider that in eight years, he did nothing to cause strain with the west. Contrast that to four years of Ahmadinejad.
 
2009-02-09 01:48:02 PM  

bartink: When you stop calling Iran the enemy, support for idiots like this begins to dry up.


THIS.
 
2009-02-09 01:49:52 PM  

wolvernova: That's a pipe dream. It would take a revolution. Reform is the only real hope short- and long-term.


Didn't he take a step in that direction with his "twin bills"?

That being said him just saying he is going to run doesn't mean they will approve of him.
 
2009-02-09 01:52:01 PM  

bartink: When you stop calling Iran the enemy, support for idiots like this begins to dry up.


Precisely.

Edsel: Not so fast with the congrats just yet...


I see nothing in that article that contradicts this article.
 
2009-02-09 01:52:16 PM  
i liked Khatami. Seemed like a fairly cool dude. Obama would meet with Amanedajawhatever, but he could make progress with Khatami.
 
2009-02-09 01:55:00 PM  

DrJesusPhD: Yes, just because a Kos blogger says so. It's not like the worldwide press has been eagerly anticipating such an announcement for weeks.


"Khatami announces candidacy" is a pretty far cry from "Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out".

wolvernova: I see nothing in that article that contradicts this article.


I fail to see how that is possible. The blog link contains about a dozen inferences, starting with "this is a clear signal".

Straight off I can contradict that with the NYT take on it: "Iran's supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final word on domestic and foreign policy, has favored Mr. Ahmadinejad in his speeches.

It is unclear whether the Guardian Council, a hard-line body of clerics close to the supreme leader that has the power to approve or disqualify candidates, will try to prevent Mr. Khatami from running."
 
2009-02-09 01:56:03 PM  

liam76: wolvernova: That's a pipe dream. It would take a revolution. Reform is the only real hope short- and long-term.

Didn't he take a step in that direction with his "twin bills"?

That being said him just saying he is going to run doesn't mean they will approve of him.


You don't get to run period if they don't like you.

The very fact that he can throw his name into the ring means he passed their approval.

The Supreme council can't be too happy with Mahmoud right now. Iran/West relations are bad right now. A new, trusted president could turn that around. They need someone who the west won't consider the spawn of Satan himself.
 
2009-02-09 01:59:04 PM  

DarnoKonrad: This is good news for. . . .everybody.


I dunno... Ahmadinejad seemed to form a symbiotic relationship with the most hawkish politicians on the world stage. He would say something that would piss people off, the hawkish elements would hype it as much as they could, it would (ideally) have an impact on the price of oil, and then everyone wins. The hawks get a prepackaged justification for their ideology that they can sell to the public and Iran gets a spike in their revenue stream which is highly dependent on the price of oil.
 
2009-02-09 01:59:13 PM  

Edsel: "Khatami announces candidacy" is a pretty far cry from "Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out".


Khamenei has widely been seen as a likely candidate to defeat Ahmadinejad, who would most likely win against another conservative.
 
2009-02-09 02:00:58 PM  
Sorry. That was supposed to be "Khatami", not "Khamenei". Ctrl-C'ed the wrong name. :(
 
2009-02-09 02:01:05 PM  

Edsel: I fail to see how that is possible. The blog link contains about a dozen inferences, starting with "this is a clear signal".

Straight off I can contradict that with the NYT take on it: "Iran's supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final word on domestic and foreign policy, has favored Mr. Ahmadinejad in his speeches.

It is unclear whether the Guardian Council, a hard-line body of clerics close to the supreme leader that has the power to approve or disqualify candidates, will try to prevent Mr. Khatami from running."


The difference between the NYTimes article and the kooks article is that the times lays out the potential obstacles, where the kooks articls says that they're "sure" those obstacles won't be a problem, or he wouldn't have announced his candidacy to begin with.

Not taking any sides on that, just that considering Ahmadinejad's unpopularity (rumor is that the supreme leader does NOT like him at all, or the trouble he brings) and the fact that this guy has been prez there from 1997 to 2005 leads me to think they won't object to his presence on the ballot.
 
2009-02-09 02:03:23 PM  
So now he can get a job in the Obama administration.
 
2009-02-09 02:05:00 PM  
Ida, Ida, Ida LoL'd!
 
2009-02-09 02:13:49 PM  
FTFA:

"I assure you he asked."

This blogger is definitely in the know. Why the hell is he not working for the NYT or Washington Post?
 
2009-02-09 02:17:33 PM  

DrJesusPhD: Edsel: "Khatami announces candidacy" is a pretty far cry from "Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out".

Khamenei has widely been seen as a likely possible candidate to defeat Ahmadinejad, who would most likely win against another conservative.


Look, I want a reformist back in office in Iran as much as anybody does. But let's not start handing out the unicorns and rainbows just yet. Contrary to what the Kos-sack is saying, we don't even know if the Supreme Council will let the guy run.

wolvernova: The difference between the NYTimes article and the kooks article is that the times lays out the potential obstacles, where the kooks articls says that they're "sure" those obstacles won't be a problem, or he wouldn't have announced his candidacy to begin with.

Not taking any sides on that, just that considering Ahmadinejad's unpopularity (rumor is that the supreme leader does NOT like him at all, or the trouble he brings) and the fact that this guy has been prez there from 1997 to 2005 leads me to think they won't object to his presence on the ballot.


We'll see. All I'm saying is that the article jumps to a LOT of conclusions.
 
2009-02-09 02:19:14 PM  

Edsel: We'll see. All I'm saying is that the article jumps to a LOT of conclusions.


If only they had some sort of mat they could use...
 
2009-02-09 02:21:23 PM  

LarryDan43: DarnoKonrad: This is good news for. . . .everybody.

It's bad news for the Palin 2012, which was going to run their entire campaign on the position of killing this guy who they believed to be the King of Muslim Land.


I wonder if they have the order of succession for Muslim Land already planned out (Hussein, Alphabetsoup, Obama, Darwin...?) or if they just spin a big wheel.

Either way, they'll find somebody else to focus their ignorance and hate on easily enough. Inevitably that person will be someone who doesn't have enough pieces of flare.

/flag pins, magnetic ribbons, decorative execution devices, tithing receipts, chastity rings, personalized molded dildos, etc.
//you know, all the signs and symbols of a True Scotsman AmericanTM
 
2009-02-09 02:21:43 PM  

Antimatter: You don't get to run period if they don't like you.

The very fact that he can throw his name into the ring means he passed their approval.


I don't think that is quite accurate. In 04 (or 05, I forget) there were a bunch of people running for the legislature that were then barred from running. Just because he is running now doesn't mean he won't be barred from running later on.

Antimatter: The Supreme council can't be too happy with Mahmoud right now. Iran/West relations are bad right now. A new, trusted president could turn that around. They need someone who the west won't consider the spawn of Satan himself.


The council follows the ayatollah, and publicly he seems pretty happy with Mo Ahamadinejihad.
 
2009-02-09 02:24:37 PM  

Edsel: e don't even know if the Supreme Council will let the guy run.


Is it a different composition than when he ran the first time? To let him once, and then deny him a second time would be a very politically difficult thing to do -- half of those guys are elected themselves (to the best of my knowledge).
 
2009-02-09 02:27:37 PM  

liam76: I don't think that is quite accurate. In 04 (or 05, I forget) there were a bunch of people running for the legislature that were then barred from running. Just because he is running now doesn't mean he won't be barred from running later on.


I'll put money on it that Khatemi won't get barred from running. Being barred does happen, but not for being a reformer per se, but for being secular. This isn't the case for Khatemi, the dude's a reformist cleric, which is a good medium to get reformists in the process.

liam76: The council follows the ayatollah, and publicly he seems pretty happy with Mo Ahamadinejihad.


Just like the conservative party is happy with Bush. Take that anyway you want. They're not going to publicaly bash him.

/Iran can't work with Revolution. What it needs is Evolution, Khatemi is the right step.
 
2009-02-09 02:29:08 PM  

Edsel: We'll see. All I'm saying is that the article jumps to a LOT of conclusions.


Agreed, and they did speak about "certainty" without backing it up. With anything. Just given that it is the dailykos, I will not give them the benefit of doubt.

liam76: The council follows the ayatollah, and publicly he seems pretty happy with Mo Ahamadinejihad.


Of course the ayatollah will always publicly back the hardliner. That has never changed. Doesn't mean he wouldn't love to see him go away. He's brought only trouble.
 
2009-02-09 02:30:53 PM  

wolvernova: Of course the ayatollah will always publicly back the hardliner. That has never changed. Doesn't mean he wouldn't love to see him go away. He's brought only trouble.


Persepolis: Just like the conservative party is happy with Bush. Take that anyway you want. They're not going to publicaly bash him.


Good point.

Hope you guys are right.
 
2009-02-09 02:30:55 PM  

Edsel: "Khatami announces candidacy" is a pretty far cry from "Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out".


I'm saying it right here. Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out. Save this thread, throw the words back in my face if need be.
 
2009-02-09 02:33:43 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Edsel: We'll see. All I'm saying is that the article jumps to a LOT of conclusions.

If only they had some sort of mat they could use...


Heh. I thought about hotlinking an image but I got lazy. :P

DarnoKonrad: Edsel: e don't even know if the Supreme Council will let the guy run.

Is it a different composition than when he ran the first time? To let him once, and then deny him a second time would be a very politically difficult thing to do -- half of those guys are elected themselves (to the best of my knowledge).


The Guardian Council is all appointed by clerics, no?
 
2009-02-09 02:34:42 PM  

Persepolis: Edsel: "Khatami announces candidacy" is a pretty far cry from "Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out".

I'm saying it right here. Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out. Save this thread, throw the words back in my face if need be.


Hey, I've got no problem with that. Just sayin' that we shouldn't count our chickens just yet. ;)
 
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