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(ICV2)   "Magic: The Gathering" prepares for eighth edition. Ignorance of previous seven editions seen as sign of a healthy, well-rounded personality   (icv2.com) divider line 123
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2003-01-27 06:25:11 PM
I actually just got back into the game last summer. I started playing around the 4th Edition/Fallen Empires releases. I played a bunch in high school. It was good, harmless fun. I didn't let it get the best of me like apparently some people did. I pretty much stopped playing when I went to college.

I played once or twice through college, but didn't get back into the game until this past summer. I had a bunch of friends who also had nothing else to do. We decided to pick it up again. We just got a few preconstructed decks for cheap and found we could play the game and have lots of fun w/o the monetary commitment.

I follow the game now and keep up with the new sets and stuff. I even went to the Legions prerelease this past weekend. As long as you can restrain yourself, you can have lots of fun without spending your life savings. Just be sure to get out and talk to chicks once in a while and stuff. Probably 1% of people who play are women.
 
2003-01-27 06:27:56 PM
It's cards like this that turned me off.

http://www.findmagiccards.com/Cards/ON/Polluted_Delta.html

Why would you use that, when you could use this instead http://www.findmagiccards.com/Cards/AL/Thawing_Glaciers.html
 
2003-01-27 06:37:28 PM
....nevermind....
 
2003-01-27 07:15:05 PM
going to sell mine, my collection is currently worth an estimated 1000$... i still think it is a good game, great for the mind, just no time or anyone to play with...

and whilst you can call me a geek or whatnot, i don't really care
 
2003-01-27 07:27:03 PM
I got out early and have never looked back. Actually made just a bit over what I had put into it. The only card I wished I'd kept was my Beta Lord of the Pit... came in the first pack I opened.
 
2003-01-27 07:30:38 PM
Ha you guys are biatching aobut cards which ain't all that ugly. Check out THIS peice of shiat:

http://www.findmagiccards.com/Cards/UG/Giant_Fan.html
 
2003-01-27 07:48:51 PM
When someone I had known for years spirited off with over $3000 worth (probably something more like $300 now, I imagine) of my magic cards, I reexamined my enthusiasm for the game.
 
2003-01-27 07:50:36 PM
I remember choosing between Weatherlight and 5th edition... stopped playing after a while. They keep adding new rules, though.. it gets more and more confusing as it goes along.
 
2003-01-27 07:58:33 PM
LordAgent- If Thawing Glaciers is the only land in your hand, then you can't play anything and you can't even use the Thawing Glaciers. However, with Polluted Delta, you would play it, sac it, and then you would have a swamp or island to use that turn.

In general, Thawing Glaciers looks to be much "slower" than Polluted Delta. If you only have two swamps free and you want to play that creature which costs 1BB, you can do it right away with Polluted Delta. With Thawing Glaciers, you'd couldn't play the creature the first turn because the Thawing Glaciers comes into play tapped. The second turn, you'd use the Thawing Glaciers, but the Swamp that you get would also come into play tapped. You wouldn't be able to play your creature until the third turn. Being able to have your creature for those 2 extra turns could be difference between winning and losing.
 
2003-01-27 09:11:41 PM
Skazzytl: Yes, but the problem is that Polluted Delta takes up a card space in your deck. And its only purpose is to put more land into play. ANd you have to pay 1 life to do it. And it's a 1 shot use (unless you recycle your graveyard).

I think it would be more econimical to put some other form of mana generation into your deck. Hell, even a basic land would be better than delta.

But then again, I'm Evil, so my preferred special land has always been Lake of the dead.
 
2003-01-27 11:02:59 PM
I've got cards from the 2nd or 3rd edition when I played years ago. I'm still holding on to them, hoping that I'll run into someone who plays. Don't think I'll ever sell em off.
 
2003-01-27 11:05:22 PM
Somehow I ended up with a big box of "Rage" cards.
I don't even play those card games.
 
2003-01-27 11:15:18 PM
I tried MTG, and it just didn't do it for me. I loved illuminati.

I'd like to see another edition of that.

TWTFIWWY card was the funniest thing I've seen today.
 
2003-01-27 11:32:47 PM
Turn 1 I drop polluted delta.. I can cast anything that costs U, B, or requires returning an island to my hand.

Your thawing glaciers sits there while your opponent drops creatures.

Turn 2 I can have UU(counterspell mana), UB(edict, smother), BB(nantuko shade, hymn to tourach).

Thawing glaciers player can either use his thaw or cast a one mana spell now(and not thaw).

Turn 3, player with delta has 3 mana per turn. If you play thaw, you have 2 mana and a tapped thaw, if you played another non thaw land to cast a 3 drop your in equal position and wasted turns 1 and 2(the most important turns).

A basic land doesn't offer the choice of what color you need after you see your hand also with more searching lands you draw less in the late game where you don't need them(this is one of the strong points of thawing glaciers).

Not to knock thawing glaciers, it's an excellent card.. but glacially slow as well.

As an aside to the other magic players still reading, how did you do in the Legions pre-release? 3 boxes + 18 packs between me and a friend in 3 flights and 2 main events.
 
2003-01-27 11:46:25 PM
[nerding]

Polluted Delta and Thawing Glaciers serve different purposes. Delta lets you get out land very early, and Glaciers helps you thin your deck tremendously late in the game.

btw, if anyone has some of the very early edition cards (alpha, beta, unlimited, revised) gimme an email if you want to sell them, I might be interested.

[/nerding]
 
2003-01-27 11:49:34 PM
As an aside to the other magic players still reading, how did you do in the Legions pre-release? 3 boxes + 18 packs between me and a friend in 3 flights and 2 main events.

I played at the Chicago pre-release and didnt do so hot. I played a 3 color deck and was really good at drawing land alot. My last game kicked ass though, despite loosing.

The other guy with had 9 life and 9 creatures out, i had 5 creatures and was down to one life. I cast Wave of indifference and prevented all his creatures from blocking,then attacked with all 5 of my creatures for 9 damage. saddly though he was able o do 1 damage to an attacking creature (which killed it) staying alive to kill me the next round :(
 
2003-01-27 11:58:50 PM
I won a ton of my games with the wave of indifference I had. (ended up G/R/b splashing 2 cruel revival) Highlights of the deck were a sparksmith, starstorm, crown of fury, wave of indifference, 2 frenetic raptor(1 SB), wirewood savage; and a really solid mana curve all the way up.

IMHO the best land/spell mix I saw was 18 lands(usually you'll get a cycling land which helps) and 22 spells since there's so little removal that you can't afford to be behind in mana development and there's a number of bombs. Also the green, red, and black invokers which are common require a large mana investment but pay off nice dividends. Some guy setup a cleric wall against me so I just used the red invoker until he died, the green one you can drop early and hit then later make it a 7/7, and the black one can break open a stalled board.
 
2003-01-28 12:35:20 AM
Anybody ever play "Lunch Money"?
Now, that's a kick-butt game.
 
2003-01-28 12:40:25 AM
The new Magic card design makes them look like the newer Pokemon card game design.

Charmander, baby.
 
2003-01-28 01:32:03 AM
I heard that this game turns you into a satanist or something. Do any of you who play feel slightly more evil?
 
2003-01-28 10:40:18 AM
Turn 1 I drop polluted delta.. I can cast anything that costs U, B, or requires returning an island to my hand.

Which is better than laying down a normal island because? Sure, you can grab an island or a swamp. But with a well constructed (read balanced) deck, you shouldn't have any trouble playing an island or swamp on the first turn, and you save a point of life. And later on, when you would play polluted delta, just think you could have put down a normal land. AND, you sac it, so you get one use unless you recycle your graveyard, whereas, with two thawing glaciers, I can alternate them and eventually clean out my library of land. (I need alot of land to sac to my Lake of the Dead).

Anyway, you blue players were always a little weird to me. I'm black and red myself. Dark ritual 4 life. And the aformentioned Lake of the Dead.
 
2003-01-28 11:12:55 AM
I don't know, I guess I'm just used to having a ton of mana available so the leadup of the glaciers don't bother me. You would never play a glacier near the beginning, the beginning of the game is for dark rituals and plain lands.

Doesn't matter to me, my black deck is currently set up as a gravebane deck. (four gravebane zombies, four ashen ghouls, four nether shadows, four buried alives (to get the graveyard goin), a handfull of badmoons. The aformentioned lakes and thawing glaciers, a life drain or two. And other assorted cards.

Not exactly tournament material, but it's fast, hellishly fast. And fun to play. Normally runs like this.

turn 1) Drop down a swamp, cast dark ritual. Cast nether shadow. Take 1 point of burn, attack for 1 damage. OR I could opt to use the DR to cast buried alive and toss a nether shadow and two Ashen Ghouls into my graveyard.

Turn 2) Drop down another swamp. Normally I could cast a badmoon, or another nether shadow. If I have another dark ritual in my hand then I could out with an ashen ghoul, a gravebane, or two shades. Or, if I opted to bury the Ashen Ghouls/shade earlier, I could use the 2nd dark ritual to bury three more ghouls/shades.

Turn 3) If I buried creatures, pay to bring ghouls back, the shades would come back automatically. Lay down lands, etc etc. If I have an all hallow's eve in my hand, I pop it and all the buried creatures rise.

Turn 4) Get badmoons and gravebanes out, start in with glaciers and lakes of the dead. Keep in with attacks and cycle creatures as they die.
 
2003-02-01 04:28:15 AM
Turn 5: Cast Forever Virgin and restart game

/sarcasm off
 
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