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(Rabies the Dog)   Complete "Bloom County" to be released in October 2008. Will join "Complete" Far Side where half the strips are redrawn, and "Complete" Calvin and Hobbes" where 2 strips are edited and 1 is not included at all   (idwpublishing.com) divider line 101
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2009-02-05 02:14:47 PM
Grew up on Opus, Milo, Portnoy, Steve, Lola Granola, Gramps, Cutter John, Milquetoast, Rosebud, Binkley, Oliver, and Bill the F*n Cat.

Loved the original strip. Outland, etc, not so much.
 
2009-02-05 02:18:37 PM
I guess Breathed's "Opus" money got blown on his retirement vacation.

I think it's good. It's his best work, and reflective of the era. It should be compiled.

Now, what's this about Far Sides being redrawn, and Calvin editing strips? Citations please.
 
2009-02-05 02:22:24 PM
will be released in October 2008? Did I miss where the Universe started running bassakwards?
 
2009-02-05 02:22:26 PM
Earguy: Now, what's this about Far Sides being redrawn, and Calvin editing strips? Citations please.

Yeah, this.


submitter: Complete "Bloom County" to be released in October 2008

October 2008 was 4 months ago (but I'm sure this will be corrected by the time this posts to regular Fark, rendering this whole statement moot. What are you still doing here? Move on to the next post already)
 
2009-02-05 02:22:35 PM
ack
 
2009-02-05 02:22:50 PM
Everything I ever knew about journalism I learned from the Bloom Beacon

"Just one question, Senator Bedfellow: where did you bury Hoffa's body?"
 
2009-02-05 02:23:57 PM
October 2008? Wow, I hope we have flying cars by then!
 
2009-02-05 02:24:28 PM
Earguy: Now, what's this about Far Sides being redrawn, and Calvin editing strips? Citations please.

Hmmm. What I found after googling:

ORIGINAL DIALOGUE FROM COMIC EDITED 11-25-88

The original goes:
CALVIN: Watch out, Mom. I'm in a bad mood.
MOM: Be in a bad mood somewhere else, OK? I'm busy.
CALVIN: Hmph! I'll bet my BIOLOGICAL MOTHER would've bought me a comic book and made me feel better instead of shunning me like you.
MOM: Kid, anyone but your BIOLOGICAL MOTHER would've left you to the wolves long ago.
CALVIN: Yeah right. REALLY, HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR ME?

Changed to:

CALVIN: Watch out, Mom. I'm in a bad mood.
MOM: Be in a bad mood somewhere else, OK? I'm busy.
CALVIN: Hmph! I'll bet A GOOD MOTHER would've bought me a comic book and made me feel better instead of shunning me like you.
MOM: Kid, anyone but your GOOD MOTHER would've left you to the wolves long ago.
CALVIN: Yeah right. LET'S SEE YOUR TRAINING CERTIFICATE.
 
2009-02-05 02:24:59 PM
Huzzah!
I love "Bloom County" though Breathed is a very frustrating comic strip artist to love. of course he quit Bloom County because he decided he had lots of money and only wanted to draw one strip a week. That brought us "Outland". Then he said screw that and retired. Then I presume the retirement money started getting a little low or he just got bored or whatever, so he came up with the weekly strip again in "Opus". But that only lasted a few years and he quit again. GAH! Stop teasing us, Berkeley!
 
2009-02-05 02:25:40 PM
Earguy: Earguy: Now, what's this about Far Sides being redrawn, and Calvin editing strips? Citations please.

Hmmm. What I found after googling:

ORIGINAL DIALOGUE FROM COMIC EDITED 11-25-88

The original goes:
CALVIN: Watch out, Mom. I'm in a bad mood.
MOM: Be in a bad mood somewhere else, OK? I'm busy.
CALVIN: Hmph! I'll bet my BIOLOGICAL MOTHER would've bought me a comic book and made me feel better instead of shunning me like you.
MOM: Kid, anyone but your BIOLOGICAL MOTHER would've left you to the wolves long ago.
CALVIN: Yeah right. REALLY, HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR ME?

Changed to:

CALVIN: Watch out, Mom. I'm in a bad mood.
MOM: Be in a bad mood somewhere else, OK? I'm busy.
CALVIN: Hmph! I'll bet A GOOD MOTHER would've bought me a comic book and made me feel better instead of shunning me like you.
MOM: Kid, anyone but your GOOD MOTHER would've left you to the wolves long ago.
CALVIN: Yeah right. LET'S SEE YOUR TRAINING CERTIFICATE.


That's disconcerting.
 
2009-02-05 02:28:31 PM
Brilliant...

www.cwrl.utexas.edu
 
2009-02-05 02:29:37 PM
noYOUare: That's disconcerting.

Apparently Watterson chose to make the change himself.
 
2009-02-05 02:31:21 PM
If the one that's not included is the fake one making the rounds where Calvin suddenly stops daydreaming, I'm going to stab someone in the eye.

I Googled omitted strip, and all it says is that an "alternate" strip was omitted, but doesn't mention which one...
 
2009-02-05 02:32:18 PM
Always a favorite:

www.berkeleybreathed.com
 
2009-02-05 02:37:10 PM
But will it include the Billy and the Boingers record?
 
2009-02-05 02:41:02 PM
That complete Far Side is one of the best gifts I've ever gotten.
 
2009-02-05 02:41:46 PM
www.whatisdeepfried.com
 
2009-02-05 02:42:37 PM
images.wikia.com

This is not the one I remember.
 
2009-02-05 02:44:57 PM
Which C&H wasn't included?

I need citations!
 
2009-02-05 02:49:39 PM
Earguy: noYOUare: That's disconcerting.

Apparently Watterson chose to make the change himself.


Huh? I can't imagine that. Watterson always had a rather irreverent sense of humor, and the original was so much better. The 'revised' version just fell kind of flat.

And which C&H wasn't included?
 
2009-02-05 02:51:14 PM
1 is not included at all


if you mean that forged "last" C&H, you're an idiot.
 
2009-02-05 02:52:06 PM
GORBACHEV SINGS TRACTORS! TURNIP! BUTTOCKS!
 
2009-02-05 02:52:17 PM
Would love to see a new collection that actually has *all* the strips, rather than the condensed version in "Babylon", which didn't even incorporate all of "Loose Tails". Don't get me started on "Classics of Western Literature"

Side thing to mention - I went ahead and replaced my copies of "Toons for Our Times" and "Penguin Dreams" a few years back with the Amazon used book sales-thingy. Having literally demolished my originals, it was so nice to read them again. Oh, Berke. Why couldn't you have just stopped went the well ran dry, instead of raping something wonderful for so long with Outland and Opus?
 
2009-02-05 02:54:09 PM
img22.imageshack.us
 
2009-02-05 02:55:05 PM
Damn, I just realized I screwed up my own quote.

"Senator Bedfellow, can you confirm this quote for me? 'They paid me 20 grand to sink Hoffa's body in my backyard pond?'"

"What? No they didn't?"

"Oh, so they DIDN'T pay you 20 grand for you to sink Hoffa's body in the pond?"

"I don't know where Hoffa is!"

"Got it. 'I lost Hoffa's body,' Senator Bedfellow said."
 
2009-02-05 02:55:10 PM
I thought I remembered Waterson commenting on that revised strip in the 10th Anniversary Book or whatever it was called.
 
2009-02-05 02:57:55 PM
HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Oh, Berke. Why couldn't you have just stopped went the well ran dry, instead of raping something wonderful for so long with Outland and Opus?

Seconded. I loved "Bloom County" but really didn't care for either "Outland" or "Opus."
 
2009-02-05 02:58:41 PM
kronicfeld: I thought I remembered Waterson commenting on that revised strip in the 10th Anniversary Book or whatever it was called.

I don't get it though, how is the revised one "better" or less offensive or whatever than the first one?
 
2009-02-05 03:01:12 PM
One more


img132.imageshack.us
 
2009-02-05 03:02:44 PM
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Love, love, love Bloom County.
 
2009-02-05 03:13:37 PM
TFA: The beloved and quirky denizens of Bloom County include Opus, Steve Dallas, Bill the Cat, Milo Bloom, Michael Binkley, and Cutter John.

Portnoy? Hodgepodge? Two of the best characters that didn't get enough exposure.
 
2009-02-05 03:17:43 PM
Meanwhile, on the Far Side front...

Much of the original work was retained in the compilation, though Reagan said some captions were redone and some panels redrawn. In doing the retrospective work, Reagan said, there were even some that Larson came to regret drawing.

"Absolutely, but never did he say we couldn't put it in a book," he said. "He would absolutely cringe at some of them."


From here (new window)
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-02-05 03:32:28 PM
If you like Far Side, get the Prehistory book with some of the early draft no-way-in-hell-will-this-get-published-in-a-family-newspaper strips.
 
2009-02-05 04:13:26 PM
ZAZ: If you like Far Side, get the Prehistory book with some of the early draft no-way-in-hell-will-this-get-published-in-a-family-newspaper strips.

Is that the one with the drawing of Jesus pouring a cup a coffee and saying "What time is it? ...I feel like I've been dead for three days...."

My roommate put it on the fridge, and I laughed every damn time I saw it for the next two years.
 
2009-02-05 04:22:26 PM
I have arrived to add my voice to those who say this:

Outland and Opus both sucked. Hard, long, and deep. Overrated, bad, pretentious, unfunny. Peeeeeeeeeee-yew.

Bloom County was flat out good for a while, then sucked for the last couple years before Retirement Mark I.
 
2009-02-05 04:29:58 PM
itazurakko: kronicfeld: I thought I remembered Waterson commenting on that revised strip in the 10th Anniversary Book or whatever it was called.

I don't get it though, how is the revised one "better" or less offensive or whatever than the first one?


I'm sure the original made adopted children cry.
 
2009-02-05 04:34:10 PM
letdogsvote: I have arrived to add my voice to those who say this:

Outland and Opus both sucked. Hard, long, and deep. Overrated, bad, pretentious, unfunny. Peeeeeeeeeee-yew.

Bloom County was flat out good for a while, then sucked for the last couple years before Retirement Mark I.


Agreed here too, now that you mention it the last bit of Bloom County it had pretty much morphed INTO Outland.

Lionel Mandrake: Is that the one with the drawing of Jesus pouring a cup a coffee and saying "What time is it? ...I feel like I've been dead for three days...."

My roommate put it on the fridge, and I laughed every damn time I saw it for the next two years.


Ha! Now THAT is some funny religious humor - FWIW I bet my religious Christian friends would laugh at it, no offense.
 
2009-02-05 04:58:06 PM
I think when Breathed started over-drawing the strips (putting shadows on everything) and overdoing Opus' schnoz, it kinda jumped the shark at that point.
 
2009-02-05 05:05:07 PM
I still have alot of Calvin and Hobbes books my brother gave me as a kid. When were the changes made to the strips, recently or when they are printed in book form?
 
2009-02-05 05:08:58 PM
ptttttthhhppppp

Subby read article next time.

FTFA
(San Diego, February 4, 2009) IDW Publishing is pleased to announce the forthcoming release of The Bloom County Library. Beginning in October 2009, each of the five volumes will collect nearly two years worth of daily and Sunday strips, in chronological order.
 
2009-02-05 05:11:36 PM
Earguy: Earguy: Now, what's this about Far Sides being redrawn, and Calvin editing strips? Citations please.

Hmmm. What I found after googling:

ORIGINAL DIALOGUE FROM COMIC EDITED 11-25-88

The original goes:
CALVIN: Watch out, Mom. I'm in a bad mood.
MOM: Be in a bad mood somewhere else, OK? I'm busy.
CALVIN: Hmph! I'll bet my BIOLOGICAL MOTHER would've bought me a comic book and made me feel better instead of shunning me like you.
MOM: Kid, anyone but your BIOLOGICAL MOTHER would've left you to the wolves long ago.
CALVIN: Yeah right. REALLY, HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR ME?

Changed to:

CALVIN: Watch out, Mom. I'm in a bad mood.
MOM: Be in a bad mood somewhere else, OK? I'm busy.
CALVIN: Hmph! I'll bet A GOOD MOTHER would've bought me a comic book and made me feel better instead of shunning me like you.
MOM: Kid, anyone but your GOOD MOTHER would've left you to the wolves long ago.
CALVIN: Yeah right. LET'S SEE YOUR TRAINING CERTIFICATE.


Huh. I remember reading the first one, and I could swear it was in one of the compilations.

And I do own the Artbook-sized one, and no you can't take any of the three volumes out of the case. I'm more protective of my C&H archive than I would be of my own children. I bought one of those little hand-thingies that Jews use to turn the pages of the Torah for it.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-02-05 05:18:24 PM
Lionel Mandrake

Jesus is amusing, but it's not the one I'm thinking of. Mine has a crib. (I don't want to spoil the strip, because it is better seen than described.)
 
2009-02-05 05:31:50 PM
FTA: IDW Publishing is pleased to announce the forthcoming release of The Bloom County Library. Beginning in October 2009, each of the five volumes will collect nearly two years worth of daily and Sunday strips, in chronological order.

I am suddenly envisioning that this collection will set new records for price, eclipsing C&H, Far Side, and perhaps even the exhaustive Peanuts compilations. Glad I hung on to Billy and the Boingers Bootleg, as I'll probably have to content myself with that.
 
2009-02-05 05:41:48 PM
Me & Berke Breathed, a week before the final Opus comic.

SUCH an honor to get to meet him!

i205.photobucket.com
 
2009-02-05 05:43:55 PM
i82.photobucket.com

/approves..
 
2009-02-05 05:58:47 PM
www.rodentia.org
 
2009-02-05 06:10:47 PM
The TV show... it was weird. anybody know if it's online anywhere?

/still have my stuffed Bill the cat, somewhere
 
2009-02-05 06:13:16 PM
Dumb-Ass-Monkey:

Can I marry you?
 
2009-02-05 06:44:22 PM
Subby here, ready to answer your questions. In no particular order:

"October 2008" was either an accidental typo, or a deliberate one intended to ensure the greenlight. Your call.

Many, many of the Far Sides in the "Complete" book have either been colored or redesigned to fit across half a page. Unless I'm mistaken, they occasionally appear out of chronological order too. I want a book of the newspaper strips, exactly how they originally appeared. Because I'm a butthead that way.

The two edited Calvin and Hobbeses both used adoption as a punchline. Watterson made the decision to change the text in the "complete" book, even though they'd been collected earlier with their original text.

Earguy found one. The other was approximately this:

Calvin: Mom, was I adopted?
Mom: No.
C: Are you going to send me to work in a cannery?
M: No.
C: Are you fattening me up to eat me?
M: Goodness no! Who is putting these weird ideas in your head?
C (to Hobbes): Weird ideas she called them.
H: Like she's going to tell you the truth.

The reference to adoption as being on par with cannibalism or child labor was changed.

dstanley in his post had the strip that has not been collected in any of the books. It was an alternate to an early strip the syndicate worried might be too gross.

I had forgotten about the controversial final C&H, which of course has also never been collected. I include it here for completeness:

www.joeydevilla.com

/Waiting for the Arlo and Janis collection to come out.
//And I really would like to see a collection of the Larry Doyle and Neal Sternecky Pogos from the early '90s.
 
2009-02-05 06:51:03 PM
Came for the Pear Pimples, left satisfied.
 
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