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2009-02-05 06:32:52 PM  
thomps: Winktologist: She's kinda hot until she opens her mouth.

/no, not Whoopi

even hotter when you find out that she's a lawyer.


She is not a lawyer. Her mother, who has the same name as her, but spelled with a z in lieu of an s, is a lawyer.
 
2009-02-05 06:32:55 PM  
larrimo: wynper:

Humm Hasselbeck & Palin...naked and wrestling...I'd watch that!

PayPer View?


Fap Per View?

Pay Per Fap?

Fap.
 
2009-02-05 06:34:18 PM  
Valdes: It works this way:

Scenario #1
Wolves breed extremely fast. If you kill enough of them, the caribou and moose population explodes. There is enough food for the remaining wolves to eat. The remaining wolf population explodes again with the much larger caribou and moose populations. You continue to shoot wolves to keep the prey populations stable. The wolf population remains relatively stable.

More wolves. More caribou and moose.

Scenario #2
You leave the wolves alone. There is a much larger cyclical downswing/upswing between the predator and prey. The wolf and prey populations continually crash, slowly rise over a decade or two, then crash again when the wolf population gets too large.

Less wolves. Less caribou and moose. At least for a much larger period of time.

Essentially, they are artificially eliminating the cyclical nature of the prey crash cycle.

And yes, I think it inhumane. But I understand the logic of it.


And what you don't touch on is that by keeping the big game/wolf population stable, you are able to count on a continued big-game season that helps to fund all sorts of conservation programs throughout the state.

If you want to see what unchecked wolf populations are like, just look at Idaho where the Fish and Game is being forced to slash the number of big-game permits due to crashing big-game populations due to an exploding population of wolves. Now they are needing to raise thier revenue by raising prices for licenses and tags. Hunters are getting fed up with having to pay more money for less opportunity and hanging up their guns, further weakening state run conservation programs.

/It's the Cirrrrrrrcle of Liiiiiiife!
 
2009-02-05 06:42:08 PM  
Totally wrong message in the ad. Describing the hunt as brutal etc. etc just turns off hunters in general (a group who's support you need) by associating hunting in general as something needlessly brutal. You will get no traction from this method. What must be appealed to is the honor of hunters.

The air hunting needs to be called what is it. Unsportsmanlike and cowardly, akin to remote control hunting. Real hunters eat their kill (or in rare cases cull the diseased) This will get the attention of hunters and get them to evaluate the value of these so called hunts. An appeal must me made for the stewardship of the land and a proper connection to nature.

//the kill must be earned
 
2009-02-05 06:43:24 PM  
Diogenes: This. (one of my favorite movies)

THANK YOU!!!

/just bought it
 
2009-02-05 06:48:53 PM  
mrlewish: The air hunting needs to be called what is it. Unsportsmanlike and cowardly, akin to remote control hunting.

From what I understand, the aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska is meant for only one thing - Wolf population control. From what I remember, it is not supposed to be for sportsman, but goverment wildlife managers. I could be wrong, but I don't belive that sportsmen can do this legaly.
 
2009-02-05 06:50:21 PM  
Every time someone misuses the word socialist God kills an unborn child.
 
2009-02-05 06:53:18 PM  
Thank god for that woman. Without her, I might run out of women to hatef***.
 
2009-02-05 06:54:10 PM  
I guess I was wrong. Did a little reasearch and they do permit private hunters to hunt from planes. There is, however, a quota on the total number of wolves killed per the state's management plan.
 
2009-02-05 06:55:46 PM  
I hope naked pictures of that moron find their way on the internet. It would make me quite happy.
 
2009-02-05 07:04:51 PM  
snocone: "Ooohh, I love to dance a little side step
Now they see me, now they don't

and lead the people on."


Am I the only one who got that? Really I'm too young be the only other person here who loves that movie.

Oh and fark you for getting it suck in my head.
 
2009-02-05 07:23:48 PM  
Ashtrey: Am I the only one who got that?

You two are not the only ones in this little bitty pissant country place who got that reference.
 
2009-02-05 07:24:45 PM  
I would get an abortion long before I killed a wolf that wasn't attacking anyone at that time.

/didn't rtfa
 
2009-02-05 07:41:42 PM  
BunkyBrewman: It is curious that we consider furry creatures to be more important than our own fellow man. It was more important to spend 7mil on an animal shelter than 1mil on a homeless shelter. (too lazy to provide the ref)

That's moronic. Just because there are still human problems, doesn't mean we should neglect all other problems.
 
2009-02-05 07:52:05 PM  
Didn't click the link but my thoughts are -

It's apparently not ok to drill in ANWR because it supposedly would (according to the greens) effect moose and caribou populations

It's apparently ok to let the wolf population run wild (due to a ban on hunting them backed by the greens) even though they were rapidly wiping out the moose and caribou populations

So my message to the greens is...try to make more sense.
 
2009-02-05 07:55:30 PM  
Palin's used the 'we hunt and eat what we kill" defense, and shat a big dollop of economic hardship on top of that.

Three things:
1. No-one eats wolves.

2. If you have the funds to rent a helicopter or plane, the economic hardship card doesn't apply to you.

3. If you have to hunt from a helicopter, you're a cowardly douchebag and I hope you crash, but barely survive and have to spend your last hours watching the wolves surrounding you waiting for the meal to stop struggling.

I like to hunt, but with the idea that what I kill will be eaten. I don't do it to get my jollies. People that hunt from helicopters are the kind of people that dress up as cowboys and go to $3000 a weekend ranches where they watch someone else rope an arthritic cow. Take off the hubcap sized belt buckle and get your your lily asses beck to suburbia.
 
2009-02-05 08:09:34 PM  
People that hunt from airplaneshelicopters are the kind of people that dress up as cowboys and go to $3000 a weekend ranches where they watch someone else rope an arthritic cow. Take off the hubcap sized belt buckle and get your your lily asses beck to suburbia in Alaska are killing off wolves so they can, for the most part, ensure more game meat for people in rural villages and sport hunters to a lesser extent
 
2009-02-05 08:17:31 PM  
r1niceboy: If you have the funds to rent a helicopter or plane, the economic hardship card doesn't apply to you.

You do realize that most folks that live in the remote parts of Alaska own bush planes correct? Owning a plan in Alaska is kind of like owning a boat if you live on the coast. Not uncommon at all.

If you don't know anything about what you are posting on, it may be best to not say anything at all.
 
2009-02-05 08:17:34 PM  
Why are we picking on Hasselbeck? She's a MILF. Whoopi is just as big an idiot and she's not even hot. We should be making fun of her.
 
2009-02-05 09:21:25 PM  
kakakaty: that is fine, she can compare baby killing to wolf killing. then maybe all those pro-lifers will stop killing all of the sweet baby cows, chickens, pigs, rabbits, emus, bison, alligators, possum to feed their bellies.

/hypocrites


Hypocrite? you are an idiot the only hears what you want. Killing an animal and killing a human is not the same thing. I don't care how much you like animals there is a food chain. These animals have to be killed to protect the ecosystem. During the winter and from the air is the best way to see them and safest way.
The Pro-lifers are trying to protect a human life from being taken. This the rest of the idiots want to save every animal but in the same breath say a woman can kill her baby because she does not want it. Your "Choice" was mad when you decided to have sex. I do understand that rape can bring a lot of grey area to this argument as there was no choice made but some things are out of our hands. The fact is we need to decide when human life starts. No I do not believe birth control is murder but there needs to be some line like brainwaves or a heart beat to determine life.
If you lived in my house and I shut off my power and that inturn shut off you ventilator and you died I would be tried for murder, but hay my house my choice right?
 
2009-02-05 09:32:58 PM  
Valdes: People that hunt from airplaneshelicopters are the kind of people that dress up as cowboys and go to $3000 a weekend ranches where they watch someone else rope an arthritic cow. Take off the hubcap sized belt buckle and get your your lily asses beck to suburbia in Alaska are killing off wolves so they can, for the most part, ensure more game meat for people in rural villages and sport hunters to a lesser extent

All true.

Also, the wolves aren't anywhere near endangered, the predator control is only happening in certain limited areas until subsistence-use populations of game by the local residents are assured (Native Alaskans for the most part BTW, why do you folks hate the First Peoples maintaining their cultures and lifestyles?) and nobody who does it considers it "hunting" in the sense of fair chase. It's a challenging task but most folks who do it would rather be hunting for food.

The reason they are using aircraft is the physical impossibility of covering enough terrain in any other way to make an appreciable dent in the local wolf populations. Finding the damn things and maneuvering for a shot is hard enough from the air. Trying it on, say, snowmachines over rough terrain is just burning gas and wasting time.
 
2009-02-05 09:35:15 PM  
Whoops, the lined out portions didn't carry over.

The stuff that was crossed out in the original post is nonsense.
 
2009-02-05 09:39:40 PM  
stev6801: kakakaty: that is fine, she can compare baby killing to wolf killing. then maybe all those pro-lifers will stop killing all of the sweet baby cows, chickens, pigs, rabbits, emus, bison, alligators, possum to feed their bellies.

/hypocrites

Hypocrite? you are an idiot the only hears what you want. Killing an animal and killing a human is not the same thing. I don't care how much you like animals there is a food chain. These animals have to be killed to protect the ecosystem. During the winter and from the air is the best way to see them and safest way.
The Pro-lifers are trying to protect a human life from being taken. This the rest of the idiots want to save every animal but in the same breath say a woman can kill her baby because she does not want it. Your "Choice" was mad when you decided to have sex. I do understand that rape can bring a lot of grey area to this argument as there was no choice made but some things are out of our hands. The fact is we need to decide when human life starts. No I do not believe birth control is murder but there needs to be some line like brainwaves or a heart beat to determine life.
If you lived in my house and I shut off my power and that inturn shut off you ventilator and you died I would be tried for murder, but hay my house my choice right?


We don't need to decide when life begins. We need to let medical decisions to be made by doctors and their patients. The medical profession has specific guidelines about abortion time frames.

We need to stay the heck out of someone's reproductive system. It's her plumbing and nobody else's.

Or does the state own ovaries? Should we class abortion as murder so we can try doctors and their patients for murder. Then stack juries with fundies so they pass the death penalty on doctors and their patients.

Fundies used execute doctors with sniper rifles and bombs. It was easy to justify a few murdered doctors. Now they are just working within the legal system. But they're still planning on killing murderers.
 
2009-02-05 09:50:55 PM  
Gosh you redneck douchebag hunters. I can't imagine how nature would survive without you.

/if you kill for enjoyment, you are a douchebag. If you kill for "food" with a $1200 rifle, you are still a douchebag killing because you enjoy KILLING.

//not a member of PETA.
 
2009-02-05 09:59:35 PM  
so just to make sure I have this straight...

hot chick 1 makes a commercial to say that hot chick 2 is an evil murderer and then hot chick 3 gets upset and says hot chick one is a worse woman then Whoopi stops everything before we see any boobies at all?

That freaking sucks.
 
2009-02-05 10:06:06 PM  
zenferret: can't imagine how nature would survive without you.

Nature would survive fine without us. The issue is how well does it survive WITH us? If you want to go stick you head in the sand and pretend that we are not here and that we have no impact on nature, then go ahead, but you would be wrong. Wildlife managment is necessary to keep things in balance with hunters, conservationalist, and each other.

Not too tough to understand
 
2009-02-05 10:09:49 PM  
HeadLever: zenferret: can't imagine how nature would survive without you.

Nature would survive fine without us. The issue is how well does it survive WITH us? If you want to go stick you head in the sand and pretend that we are not here and that we have no impact on nature, then go ahead, but you would be wrong. Wildlife managment is necessary to keep things in balance with hunters, conservationalist, and each other.

Not too tough to understand


Again, I don't understand how nature could survive without us.

/hunters should be hunted. For their pelts.
 
2009-02-05 10:16:53 PM  
Let me guess you had a filling and yummy bowl of tofu for supper didn't you? And not to mention those stylish hemp slacks!
 
2009-02-05 10:23:37 PM  
mitchcumstein1 2009-02-05 02:33:19 PM I would pay a million dollars to have Hasselbeck explain to me what Socialism is.
=========================

I'd be willing to bet a million dollars no far-right scum like Hasselbeck (Remember this isn't all republicans, I'm talking far-right scum like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Malkin, and Hasselbeck) actually know what socialism is.

None of them.

Though, probably half the people in these forums probably don't know what socialism is either. But it'd be a mix of both sides.
 
2009-02-05 10:24:22 PM  
kpottruff: Let me guess you had a filling and yummy bowl of tofu for supper didn't you? And not to mention those stylish hemp slacks!

Hell no, I'm a carnivore. On the other hand, I don't get an erection hanging out in slaughterhouses.
 
2009-02-05 10:26:38 PM  
zenferret: Gosh you redneck douchebag hunters. I can't imagine how nature would survive without you.

/if you kill for enjoyment, you are a douchebag. If you kill for "food" with a $1200 rifle, you are still a douchebag killing because you enjoy KILLING.

//not a member of PETA.


I don't suppose you would consider the idea that a $1200 rifle might help you bring down the animal more humanely?

The idea is one shot, one kill. If it takes a $1200 weapon, then that's what you do.

Of course, we could just let everything breed its little heart out. And then when Species X dies from starvation, we'll send you the bill for the cleanup of the bodies.

Sound fair?
 
2009-02-05 10:28:35 PM  
zenferret: kpottruff: Let me guess you had a filling and yummy bowl of tofu for supper didn't you? And not to mention those stylish hemp slacks!

Hell no, I'm a carnivore. On the other hand, I don't get an erection hanging out in slaughterhouses.


Fair enough but in that case how is hunting different from gardening? While I don't personally hunt I know people who like to dress and package the meat from the animal they have killed, which is quite like someone digging their own potatoes or shelling peas in my optnion.
 
2009-02-05 10:31:18 PM  
zenferret: Again, I don't understand how nature could survive without us.

Then you are pretty dumb if you actaully think that nature exists in a vacuum. Pretending otherwise is nothing but a fantasy and I tend to keep my arguments grounded in reality. Sorry if I don't play along with your hypotheticals.

Just remember that hunting and fishing pays for the vast majority of the conservation and habitat programs overseen by state and local goverments.
 
2009-02-05 11:10:49 PM  
I've always found the whole "pro life" movement to be very hypocritical.

It's funny how the same people who are all for saving the unborn babies are comfortable with executing criminals, wars, and letting people go without food for whatever political reasons they use to excuse themselves.

What use is it to save the poor babies when there is no concern over what happens to them afterward?

I find it shallow and unsophisticated, something for people to pray and hold signs and win votes with so they can feel like they are doing some good without having to get their hands dirty.

Even if abortion were to be made illegal it still wouldn't make the world a better place because these fools don't even know where the problem even begins.
 
2009-02-05 11:21:17 PM  
If you're too bleatingly STUPID to see the SPIN on that show you should kill yourself.
 
2009-02-05 11:33:17 PM  
bingo the psych-o: It's funny how the same people who are all for saving the unborn babies are comfortable with executing criminals

Why is that funny? Conservatives only believe in the death penalty for people over the age of 18.
 
2009-02-05 11:34:35 PM  
"Idiocracy" (the movie)

Every day we're getting closer and closer
 
2009-02-05 11:34:56 PM  
HeadLever: Hunters are getting fed up with having to pay more money for less opportunity and hanging up their guns, further weakening state run conservation programs.

That is sad. I thought they were doing it as conservationists. They should be happy they don't have to.
 
2009-02-05 11:36:39 PM  
Cromar: bingo the psych-o: It's funny how the same people who are all for saving the unborn babies are comfortable with executing criminals

Why is that funny? Conservatives only believe in the death penalty for people over the age of 18.


Don't forget the retards.
 
2009-02-05 11:45:52 PM  
Valdes: It works this way:

Scenario #1
Wolves breed extremely fast. If you kill enough of them, the caribou and moose population explodes. There is enough food for the remaining wolves to eat. The remaining wolf population explodes again with the much larger caribou and moose populations. You continue to shoot wolves to keep the prey populations stable. The wolf population remains relatively stable.

More wolves. More caribou and moose.

Scenario #2
You leave the wolves alone. There is a much larger cyclical downswing/upswing between the predator and prey. The wolf and prey populations continually crash, slowly rise over a decade or two, then crash again when the wolf population gets too large.

Less wolves. Less caribou and moose. At least for a much larger period of time.

Essentially, they are artificially eliminating the cyclical nature of the prey crash cycle.

And yes, I think it inhumane. But I understand the logic of it.




Unfortunately, it also works the other way. The science is not exact and greater instances of mange, chronic wasting and other diseases flourish when their natural predators are extinguished.

When I was hunting in Colorado (new window) this was a huge problem with the elk and deer.

In BC culling was done to the extent Alaska does theirs and the end result was that the deer and elk then needed to be culled due to overpopulation.

As Alaska is really not a farming community the wolf population is being culled essentially for game hunters. Myself, I think that the extent to which Alaska culls is unnecessary and somewhat irresponsible.
 
2009-02-05 11:47:15 PM  
Sabyen91: I thought they were doing it as conservationists.

Most do it because they like to hunt (outdoors, solitude, yada, yada) and it can be a easy and cheap way to get a winter's worth of meat. They are conservationist in the sense that they would like to sustain the hunting opportunities that sound management brings.
 
2009-02-05 11:48:10 PM  
Elizabeth Hasslebeck would even be too annoying for porn.
 
2009-02-05 11:51:57 PM  
Oh, and to add, comparing abortions to wolf hunts is like comparing putting down your old dog to killing your grandmother.farking apples and oranges you dumb blond embarrassment to women.
 
2009-02-05 11:53:37 PM  
sleeps in trees: As Alaska is really not a farming community the wolf population is being culled essentially for game hunters. Myself, I think that the extent to which Alaska culls is unnecessary and somewhat irresponsible.

I'm 100% in favor of Alaska culling some of their less-useful, overpopulated humans, too.
 
2009-02-06 12:03:31 AM  
Ahhhhhh, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, the abortion that got away.
 
2009-02-06 12:16:29 AM  
No amount of hawtness or boobies would make me not want to see her mauled by a pack of those Alaskan wolves. Even better if it was a pack of aborted fetuses, a la Dead Space.
 
2009-02-06 12:22:19 AM  
Wait, are they killing the wolves while still in the womb?

At least they have a shot at running or the shooter missing.
 
2009-02-06 12:29:39 AM  
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2009-02-06 01:00:28 AM  
bingo the psych-o: I've always found the whole "pro life" movement to be very hypocritical.

It's funny how the same people who are all for saving the unborn babies are comfortable with executing criminals, wars, and letting people go without food for whatever political reasons they use to excuse themselves.

What use is it to save the poor babies when there is no concern over what happens to them afterward?


executing criminals: they made the choice, babies made no choice. reaction to an action.

wars: is anyone pro war? some groups just have different criteria for war or police action.

food: born people are given a chance for it. noone is guaranteed it. the main idea of banning abortion is to give the child a chance. its the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness, not the guarantee of it.
 
2009-02-06 01:22:29 AM  
Punch your monitor?

Because liberals are cool with killing human babies, but kill a wolf and they have a anxiety attack??


Liberal priorities are all farked up.
 
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