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(NYPost)   Passengers of U.S. Airways flight 1549 thrilled to be given free first class upgrades for a year. Just kidding, they're biatching their lungs out because they want free upgrades for life   (nypost.com) divider line 266
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2009-01-30 05:38:04 AM  
Actually, A year isn't much.

For people that are flying all the time, they are elite status already and for the most part don't have to fly coach anyway.

For people that aren't already elite, they aren't flying but a few times a year if that.

I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.
 
2009-01-30 05:45:44 AM  
What are US Airways biatching about? "Life" will only be until the next time they crash a plane after a bird strike with a pilot that isn't as good as "Sully". They'll only have to upgrade them once, twice at most.
 
2009-01-30 06:32:13 AM  
I can understand the passengers side of the story, but this reminds me of the old joke where a lady complains to the waiter that the food is horrible and she won't eat it. When asked if there is anything else wrong, she replies, "Yes, the portions are too small!"

If the flight was such a horrible ordeal, why complain that you want a lifetime of "luxury" flights that will only serve to remind you of said ordeal?
 
2009-01-30 08:05:27 AM  
Seriously.. if any one of you involved in the crash are reading this and think that US Airways should be providing any benefits to you - think of this:

They already provided you with a pilot who is arguably one of the safest and coolest-headed pilots in the industry. One that gave you your miserable life back after a completely random incident happened that would have taken it had there been a lesser pilot in the left seat.
 
2009-01-30 08:13:27 AM  
When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?
 
2009-01-30 08:26:04 AM  
How exactly was this crash the fault of US Airways? Are they supposed to be able to control geese?

You got 5 grand, future expense claims, and some good faith flights. Americans might be the only people in existence who feel they're owed something from an unavoidable accent.
 
2009-01-30 08:26:14 AM  
labman: When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?

Yes! And I expect deers to give me free venison for life.

/Gimme
 
2009-01-30 08:26:25 AM  
These people don't deserve anything aside from having their luggage replaced, unless of course the NTSA somehow finds US Airways at fault. As near as I can tell the plane was roperly maintained right up until some geese got sucked through the engines and the flight crew was damn good.

Airplanes are pressurized metal tubes in the sky, sometimes nature picks one off.
 
2009-01-30 08:26:47 AM  
How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?
 
2009-01-30 08:27:32 AM  
Give them free one way tickets to Biafra. No inflight meal.
 
2009-01-30 08:29:13 AM  
Your average person gets a few weeks vacation a year, at a time when their work lets them, which is often spent keeping an eye on their kids or doing home tasks. How often do most people fly anywhere? Offering a year of free first class is, for most people, one or two flights at the most. That barely covers the value of the luggage they lost.
 
2009-01-30 08:29:16 AM  
FTA"You're going to crash me into the water, and you're going to tell me all I get is an upgrade?" asked Antonio Sales, 20, who was traveling with the University of South Carolina's track team. "That's more of an 'OK, you're not dead, I'll give you something to hold on to.' It's not enough at all."

I feel a hate crime coming on.
 
2009-01-30 08:29:30 AM  
Plus they've had to fight all those polar bears and that smoke monster thing! They deserve something!
 
2009-01-30 08:30:20 AM  
I wish the airline would publish the names of all the passengers so we can start calling them out by name. These douchebags deserve public scorn and ridicule. For life.
 
2009-01-30 08:31:22 AM  
dreadlocksFTW: FTA"You're going to crash me into the water, and you're going to tell me all I get is an upgrade?" asked Antonio Sales, 20, who was traveling with the University of South Carolina's track team. "That's more of an 'OK, you're not dead, I'll give you something to hold on to.' It's not enough at all."

I feel a hate crime coming on.


I bet USC has one of those searchable student and staff directories like most schools do.
 
2009-01-30 08:32:07 AM  
Better to have had everybody die in the crash I guess.
 
2009-01-30 08:32:08 AM  
They already got a lifetime upgrade from "Dead".
 
2009-01-30 08:32:14 AM  
Conditioned response to entitlement society.
 
2009-01-30 08:32:23 AM  
OMG, It's The American Way!
 
2009-01-30 08:32:49 AM  
No Such Agency: Your average person gets a few weeks vacation a year, at a time when their work lets them, which is often spent keeping an eye on their kids or doing home tasks. How often do most people fly anywhere? Offering a year of free first class is, for most people, one or two flights at the most. That barely covers the value of the luggage they lost.

They already paid for the luggage they lost, so who cares? They didn't have to do anything. These people are sandy vagina little biatches, should get over themselves, and should stop being upset that Sully is getting the praise and they aren't be lauded as "heroes" for escaping.
 
2009-01-30 08:33:44 AM  
No Golden Pass?
 
2009-01-30 08:34:03 AM  
I knew Sully should have just saved himself
 
2009-01-30 08:34:27 AM  
I think they should be able to sue and get compensation for whatever was responsible for the plane going down. And that would be the birds.


As for who was responsible for them surviving (which is the pilot, and thus US Air), I think they have the right to say 'thank you', and then STFU.
 
2009-01-30 08:34:41 AM  
ha-ha-guy:
I bet USC has one of those searchable student and staff directories like most schools do.


you mean facebook?
 
2009-01-30 08:35:09 AM  
They should at least throw in a free ShamWow.
 
2009-01-30 08:35:35 AM  
z_gringo: Actually, A year isn't much.

For people that are flying all the time, they are elite status already and for the most part don't have to fly coach anyway.

For people that aren't already elite, they aren't flying but a few times a year if that.

I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.


I'm all for them taking the offer away from the people that complained.
 
2009-01-30 08:36:14 AM  
No Such Agency: That barely covers the value of the luggage they lost.

Of course, the $5000 check helps some with that, too.

I don't see how the airline is liable for anything here, but they're making a gesture . . . and the passengers are saying "gimme more"? Screw those greedy farkers.
 
2009-01-30 08:36:24 AM  
All the passengers did is not die because of the skill of the pilot. They want to be rewarded for that? I think that they're getting a pretty good deal for ballast, which is what they were during the whole thing.

I love America. No where else gives me quiet the same sense of moral and intellectual superiority.
 
2009-01-30 08:36:49 AM  
All the passengers on flight 1549 were from Long Island??? How is that possible?
 
2009-01-30 08:38:40 AM  
FTA: "You're going to crash me into the water, and you're going to tell me all I get is an upgrade?" asked Antonio Sales, 20, who was traveling with the University of South Carolina's track team. "That's more of an 'OK, you're not dead, I'll give you something to hold on to.' It's not enough at all."

Teammate Gabrielle Glenn, 20, was more blunt: "That's it. They should sue."


For FSM's sake, it was a freak accident that both engines got hit at the same time, and the airline upheld their end of the bargain by getting them all safely off of the plane. Why should they get sue-happy now? If the engine failure was due to poor maintenance, then I could see their point. But you can't sue an airline for a freak coincidence of nature, during which you received nothing more than a good scare.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.
 
2009-01-30 08:38:51 AM  
Didn't this plane have a bunch of failures before the crash?

A double engine failure is extremely rare, and it's not been proven yet that there wasn't more to this crash than geese. While the passengers should be grateful to have survived, and I think 5k + lost stuff + a year of upgrades is plenty, I do think the idea that they are horrible people for asking for more is a bit silly.

They did suffer a plane crash. If the airline wants to get publicity out of these people, then it's only fair to negotiate for it.
 
2009-01-30 08:39:06 AM  
Foxie299: I love America. No where else gives me quiet the same sense of moral and intellectual superiority.

How about giving you loud the same sense of moral and intellectual superiority?
 
2009-01-30 08:40:13 AM  
ha-ha-guy: These people don't deserve anything aside from having their luggage replaced, unless of course the NTSA somehow finds US Airways at fault. As near as I can tell the plane was roperly maintained right up until some geese got sucked through the engines and the flight crew was damn good.


They dont even deserve that. That's what flight insurance is for. Its optional for a reason. If something happens beyond their control then flight insurance picks it up.

I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life.
 
2009-01-30 08:40:17 AM  
I dunno, I think i would just be happy to be alive.
 
2009-01-30 08:40:18 AM  
You're still the man Sully. Retire comfortably with the satisfaction of having the plan all come together.

I hope you never have to deal with those folks ever again if you don't want!
 
2009-01-30 08:40:27 AM  
they want free upgrades for life

Well, what's the problem then? They got it.

They were upgraded from 'very likely to die a horrible death' to 'briefly inconvenienced and frightened'.


That's an upgrade I'd take any day of the week considering it wasn't the airlines fault that geese are nasty dumb creatures.
 
2009-01-30 08:40:31 AM  
I think I would be grateful just to be alive. I am a silly person.
 
2009-01-30 08:41:09 AM  
ShillinTheVillain: It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how people assume our society has become litigious based on the availability heuristic and not actual data.
 
2009-01-30 08:41:49 AM  
I would consider having a pilot that was skilled enough to not kill you or immediately sink the plane thus saving your life to be a perk. Looking at the options of a horrible crash, drowning trapped in a plane filling with water or being forced into freezing water I think they got really lucky.

Replace their luggage, compensate them for the original flight ticket and move on. This wasn't negligence it was just fate.
 
2009-01-30 08:42:12 AM  
Here's what I want (and, if I get it, I PROMISE I won't sue): I want a meal. Just one. I don't fly for the food, and an airplane is a lousy restaurant (except for Virgin... hmmmm.... where was I? Oh...) but when I am traveling for business, I usually try to pack as much as I can into my day and maybe the ONLY time I get to grab a quick bite is on the way home. I also want you to explain to the guy behind me that my seat-back is immediately adjacent to my person and that it is NOT a catapult (or at least, not a very good one). Provide ether for the crying kids, and just 1 or 2 more inches of leg room - especially US Airways, which is the WORST. Actually, I was truly surprised at how quickly everyone got off of that aircraft. When I fly US Airways (and I actually flew them that same day - from Columbus to LGA), it takes me longer to get my knees out of the seat in front of me (apologies to that guy, by the way).

End of pseudo-rant.


But a big "THIS" for both labman and me texan, above. I would thanks that pilot, have drink and be thrilled with my own personal chunk of kharma.
 
2009-01-30 08:42:20 AM  
A flight of 150, and the Post found two passengers to quote. One of the two seemed reasonable. Two more negative quotes from non-passengers and they've invented a story.

They're nearly as bad as Newsday.
 
2009-01-30 08:42:25 AM  
I wish my flight last week ditched in the water with all surviving. I could use $5000 right now.
 
2009-01-30 08:42:34 AM  
Hell, if they don't want it, I'll take it.
 
2009-01-30 08:43:33 AM  
Is it really "the passengers of flight 1549" or is it a couple of ingrate douchebags from flight 1549 making a lot of noise?
 
2009-01-30 08:44:02 AM  
z_gringo: I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.

If that were the case they would have paraded him up with the company executives much like the mayor of NYC did when he held his circle jerk of "heroes" that saved people on the river. They've left him alone and his first interview STILL isnt for days. US Airways is being a stand up company here. The passengers are the ones taking advantage of the situation.
 
2009-01-30 08:44:19 AM  
I don't see anything wrong with negotiating.
 
2009-01-30 08:45:25 AM  
for life? who's life? the airline's?
USAir sucks and will merge again with someone.
 
2009-01-30 08:46:21 AM  
They should give them all first class tickets to Shut the F**k Up Island.
 
2009-01-30 08:46:29 AM  
dreadlocksFTW: As for who was responsible for them surviving (which is the pilot, and thus US Air), I think they have the right to say 'thank you', and then STFU.

Um, actually God was the one who saved them, duh. And because God saved them, he obviously thinks they are first-class people. You watch, God will get them their first-class upgrades for life, just you watch.
 
2009-01-30 08:47:02 AM  
tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how people assume our society has become litigious based on the availability heuristic and not actual data.


STFU, noob (new window)
 
2009-01-30 08:47:11 AM  
FTA: "You're going to crash me into the water, and you're going to tell me all I get is an upgrade?" asked Antonio Sales, 20, who was traveling with the University of South Carolina's track team. "That's more of an 'OK, you're not dead, I'll give you something to hold on to.' It's not enough at all."

Did this wankstain just say that being alive isn't enough? Wow.
 
2009-01-30 08:47:14 AM  
fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys
 
2009-01-30 08:47:22 AM  
labman: When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?

THIS!
/I hit a goose once, smashed my windshield
//nobody gave me a car to drive for a year
 
2009-01-30 08:47:54 AM  
This isn't true for all passengers. I had a family member on that plane, and he isn't looking for a lottery win. Poor guy does has a lot of emotional scars right now and needs time to sort things out. We have an attourney in our family who is advising him right now, but suing UA hasn't come up. Right now he'd just like to be able to sleep through the night without the nightmares.
 
2009-01-30 08:48:41 AM  
"I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?
 
2009-01-30 08:50:00 AM  
It saddens but doesn't surprise me that this story of overcoming great odds has quickly turned into a biatch-fest representing the worst of our self-entitlement attitudes. I sincerely hope someone slaps them back to reality and they appreciate the gift they have already been given.

/not likely
 
2009-01-30 08:50:49 AM  
The Crepes of Wrath: They should at least throw in a free ShamWow.

but they can't do that all day
 
2009-01-30 08:50:50 AM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


don't let the door hit ya on the way out. i hear North Korea is nice this time of year.
 
2009-01-30 08:51:00 AM  
It's stories like this that restore my misfaith in humanity.
 
2009-01-30 08:51:25 AM  
Ohhh nooz the nightmares!!!!! Seriously??
 
2009-01-30 08:51:30 AM  
rhiannon: "I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?


If you're the only survivor... You're automatically a hero!
 
2009-01-30 08:51:42 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: don't see anything wrong with negotiating.

Except what is the passengers negotiating position? That if they don't get what they want they will whine and biatch and be mocked mercilessly on the internet?
 
2009-01-30 08:51:51 AM  
They should all be given leave to join the mile-high club. 20 minutes of privacy at altitude to complete the achievement. They'll have to provide their own dance partners, of course.
 
2009-01-30 08:52:20 AM  
NYRBill: The Crepes of Wrath: They should at least throw in a free ShamWow.

but they can't do that all day


Why aren't they calling?
 
2009-01-30 08:52:25 AM  
If I was one of the passengers, I would I would owe USAIR the greatest gratitude for keeping me alive after birds downed the plane.
 
2009-01-30 08:52:45 AM  
SOLUTION:

Get the names and addresses of these complainers and add them to the watch list.

Problem solved.
 
2009-01-30 08:52:53 AM  
Umm...pretty sure having my life would be compensation enough...
 
2009-01-30 08:53:18 AM  
rhiannon: "I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?


That's obviously where he was going with it. While a stretch, it isn't implausible. Take automakers, for instance. If they discover a defective part, the equation to determine whether or not to recall it is as follows:

A.) Likely # of injuries/deaths caused by faulty part x average size of settlement.
B.) Total cost of recall.

If A > B, recall the part. If B > A, let it go.
 
2009-01-30 08:53:19 AM  
Aidan:
If you're the only survivor... You're automatically a hero!


Typically it makes you the automatic crazy killer I believe.
 
2009-01-30 08:53:43 AM  
NYRBill: but they can't do that all day

I LolWowed.
 
2009-01-30 08:54:12 AM  
gtraz: HotWingConspiracy: don't see anything wrong with negotiating.

Except what is the passengers negotiating position? That if they don't get what they want they will whine and biatch and be mocked mercilessly on the internet?


They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.
 
2009-01-30 08:54:53 AM  
It is surprising to me that EVERY SINGLE PASSENGER is complaining about the exact same thing.
 
2009-01-30 08:55:52 AM  
Flying generally sucks period. For a lot of reasons. For the same reason you hate the dentist, he hates you back, so customer service sucks. I'd hate to work...well, anywhere in the airline industry. As for the $5k, very nice gesture, but I've flown with more cash in my briefcase than that...sure I could make a claim for the rest, but how could I prove it? It's cash. The upgrade seems a little silly as well. I say let the lawyers duke it out.

/slashy for no reason
 
2009-01-30 08:56:32 AM  
Sniper 1: We have an attourney in our family who is advising him right now, but suing UA hasn't come up.

wow, that's a good lawyer to advise against suing United, since they had nothing to do with it ;-)
 
2009-01-30 08:56:34 AM  
not2bright: They already got a lifetime upgrade from "Dead".
 
2009-01-30 08:57:04 AM  
Once again, people get shafted for doing the right thing. I would agree with the passengers IF this was some sort of safety issue that the airline just failed to enforce. But since the preliminary indications are that a double bird strike occurred, that's like trying to predict when lightning will strike you twice (well, that's probably rarer, who knows). So they should be happy to get the $5000 for lost/delayed luggage AND the free upgrades for a year.
 
2009-01-30 08:57:46 AM  
Guess next time the pilot should just parachute out of the plan and let every one die. Seems to be the lesson these scum bags want to teach the airline.

Seriously these people are a bunch of bastards.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:02 AM  
z_gringo: I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.

I dunno, based upon their gesture and the asshat passengers responses, I find myself wanting to book some US Airways flights.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:07 AM  
Maybe they should've slammed their faces into the back of the seat in front of them during the landing, that way they could sue for $1,000,000,000 due to the mental anguish of having a busted nose. You snooze you lose.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:21 AM  
If anything, Capt. Sully should get the pick of the hot chicks on that flight and get blowjobs for life.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:24 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

Really? I'm no lawyer but I would think that any case against the airline would be thrown out by the judge in pretty short order.
 
2009-01-30 08:59:20 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

How so?
 
2009-01-30 08:59:36 AM  
nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

Is that like a baggage check? This TSA stuff is getting out of hand!
 
2009-01-30 09:00:22 AM  
Sniper 1: This isn't true for all passengers. I had a family member on that plane, and he isn't looking for a lottery win. Poor guy does has a lot of emotional scars right now and needs time to sort things out. We have an attourney in our family who is advising him right now, but suing UA hasn't come up. Right now he'd just like to be able to sleep through the night without the nightmares.


2/10

WEAK!
 
2009-01-30 09:00:37 AM  
I bet that the pilot of this plane reads about all of these ungrateful asshats complaining, he thinks "Maybe I should have just crashed it into the landfill and let thier asses die."
 
2009-01-30 09:00:41 AM  
I think both arguments have some form of merit.

On one hand, the airline really DOESN'T have to do anything. Like someone pointed out, these people survived a fatal but RANDOM accident because of an excellent pilot. The airline doesn't really "owe" them anything - if they had been to blame in some way, that's one thing. But it's a flock of geese, fer crissake.

On the other hand, as a gesture this can ring hollow with some passengers. Many are right - they probably won't be flying much in the next year. It's a gesture that they will not be taking advantage of, so it's essentially useless. It's kind of like telling a vegetarian that they get free Big Macs for a year.

Someone else hit it on the head - make this "gesture" for a set number of flights, rather than a set amount of time. 5 flights - or 10 flights - without a time limit, or at least a much longer time limit. You use up your free upgrades in 6 months, then TS. Don't complain that someone has some left over 5 years from now.

Sadly, most people won't be pleased with the fact that they're simply alive. If they weren't already conditioned by society to say "gimme gimme gimme", they've had people around them TELLING them to say it. Especially all the storefront lawyers sniffing around them for a quick payday.
 
2009-01-30 09:00:42 AM  
gtraz: HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

Really? I'm no lawyer but I would think that any case against the airline would be thrown out by the judge in pretty short order.


Eh. I have no such faith in the courts.
 
2009-01-30 09:03:05 AM  
Another thing, isn't it the AIRPORT's responsibility to keep birds away? I'm not sure if this happened at much altitude, but just sayin'.
 
2009-01-30 09:03:32 AM  
tampaflacouple: I bet that the pilot of this plane reads about all of these ungrateful asshats complaining, he thinks "Maybe I should have just crashed it into the landfill and let thier asses die."

Problem: Cockpit hits the ground first.
Solution: Parachute
 
2009-01-30 09:04:40 AM  
joethorne.: How exactly was this crash the fault of US Airways? Are they supposed to be able to control geese?

You got 5 grand, future expense claims, and some good faith flights. Americans might be the only people in existence who feel they're owed something from an unavoidable accent.


THIS! My father was in a plane crash when he was in the military. Does he expect the Air Force to provide him with free transportation for the rest of his life? NO! Thank your lucky stars, count your blessings and STFU!
 
2009-01-30 09:04:52 AM  
I flew to Chicago and back on Southwest last weekend. The flight home was about a third full and arrived 20 minutes early. That was enough for me.

/Oh, and I didn't die.
//Fricken' cold in Chicago last weekend, though
 
2009-01-30 09:05:20 AM  
You guys are slamming 150 people over the comments from about four. Not everyone on that plane feels the same way.
 
2009-01-30 09:05:48 AM  
Two questions:

How many of "they" (biatching passengers) are there out of the total?

When you're dealing with over 100 people rich enough to fly, what are the odds that at least a few of them are total douchebags?

This is not news. It's not a sign that America overall is now a cesspool filled with entitled yuppie trash. Go back 10, 100 or 1000 years and any random sample of 100+ people in any part of the world will have a few greedy idiots who will milk any situation for all it's worth.
 
2009-01-30 09:05:53 AM  
i plan to fly once, maybe twice in the next year.

if i were given free trips first class, that number goes up to more than five times. I'll fly everywhere.

If it is just free upgrades to first class after i have to buy a coach ticket, eh, maybe i will fly three times in the next year. it is basically $50 per flight, on 6 flights, so compensation of $300 or so.

But, since i would have flown less without the offer and some of those free first class seats i got would not have been sold anyways, the cost to the airline is essentially zero.
 
2009-01-30 09:06:01 AM  
Classic New York Post hyperbole. They quote exactly 2 of the 150 passenger, so 2 becomes "Some", "Some" becomes "Passengers of 1549" which to the average readers "All".

Two biatchy passengers among 150. They don't represent the group.
They aren't "The 1549 passengers". They are "Two whiners who happened to be on flight 1549", but then the headline wouldn't be nearly as interesting, right?
 
2009-01-30 09:06:05 AM  
Wait until they find out they ALL have to go back to the Island.
 
2009-01-30 09:06:57 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: gtraz: HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

Really? I'm no lawyer but I would think that any case against the airline would be thrown out by the judge in pretty short order.

Eh. I have no such faith in the courts.


Normally I'd agree since people are pretty good at finding things to sue over but it seems that the airline did as much as possible given the circumstances. No injuries and the reason it happened in the first place is really more an airport problem than an airline problem.
 
2009-01-30 09:07:14 AM  
If US Airways hadn't already sent out checks and refunds I'd feel completely different about this. They are doing everything in their power to make things right. Though it wouldn't hurt if they wouldn't charge these people for drinks.
 
2009-01-30 09:07:16 AM  
their prize was that they lived. screw them. everyone wants a friggin hand out.
 
2009-01-30 09:07:47 AM  
Iwouldhitit: labman: When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?

Yes! And I expect deers to give me free venison for life.

/Gimme


It's there for the taking.
 
2009-01-30 09:08:18 AM  
Welcome to America, where we're all entitled to lots of goodies anytime we don't like the outcome of any situation.

In this case, surviving a major accident isn't enoguh unless it comes with perks, too, and by God, we'll decide which perks are enough to make up for the mental anguish of living through what could have been a fatal crash.

/or is that "should have been?"
 
2009-01-30 09:08:29 AM  
auditd0rk.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-01-30 09:08:44 AM  
not2bright: They already got a lifetime upgrade from "Dead".

Worthy of repeating.
 
2009-01-30 09:09:03 AM  
Boo Hoo

Fark all these self-centered b@astards. Just because something bad happens doesn't entitle you to jack shait, especially since it wasn't even the airlines fault.
 
2009-01-30 09:10:00 AM  
U.S. Airways was not negligent in any way. It would have been better to offer nothing than a token.

If there was some negligence on US Airways part, I'd be singing a different tune, but in this circumstance, I don't think they need to offer anything.
 
2009-01-30 09:11:18 AM  
I don't think they should get anything at all. They're LUCKY, apparently a little fact that has escaped their notice. Opportunistic ingrates should get down on their knees and thank God that they escaped so easily.

/Maybe the airline should always save LUGGAGE first, since clearly that is where the true value is to so many.
//Maybe the passengers should sue the Geese?LOL
 
2009-01-30 09:11:30 AM  
Anyone watch Mythbusters They did one on seat safety. One guy said they build the seats to break so everyone dies in the crash because it is cheaper to pay a dead family then an alive complaining one.
 
2009-01-30 09:11:37 AM  
Bunch of freeloaders. I wonder who they voted for...
 
2009-01-30 09:13:43 AM  
for 150 people...yeah that should have been for life. For that small token, you couldn't buy that kind of PR.

I remember a small independent cruise liner that broke down at see a few years ago. They got stuck out there for 2 days. As the news crews met the offloading passengers at the dock, they were waiting breathlessly for the horrors of being stuck out at sea.

This cruise liner opened the bars and had chefs on 24 hours, making anything these people wanted. One guy interviewed basically said those were the two best days of his life, hooked up with multiple girls in a drunken stupor. everyone else said that a good time was had by all.

So you do the little things, get great press and move on.

That being said, those people biatching should stfu.
 
2009-01-30 09:16:48 AM  
ShillinTheVillain: tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how people assume our society has become litigious based on the availability heuristic and not actual data.

STFU, noob (new window)


So farking what? Lawsuits have decreased some years, too. You show a single farking DATA POINT and try to justify your stupid little claim.

Your a idiot.
 
2009-01-30 09:17:36 AM  
You're alive. STFU and be happy about that.
 
2009-01-30 09:17:57 AM  
Arcanum: Didn't this plane have a bunch of failures before the crash?

A double engine failure is extremely rare, and it's not been proven yet that there wasn't more to this crash than geese. While the passengers should be grateful to have survived, and I think 5k + lost stuff + a year of upgrades is plenty, I do think the idea that they are horrible people for asking for more is a bit silly.

They did suffer a plane crash. If the airline wants to get publicity out of these people, then it's only fair to negotiate for it.


That did not suffer a plane crash. They suffered a early landing. Some of the people that came off of the plane said that they have had worse landings on a runway.
To the passengers. You are not dead and that is the fault of US air and their pilot. Maybe the rest of us should sue for not offing the greedy jerks on the plane.
 
2009-01-30 09:18:57 AM  
The airline seems to have lost so much more then these two sandy vagina passengers. One is college student heading back from a trackmeet, like he had 5k worth of anything on the plane. The airline not only is paying cash and upgrades they also lost a plane. I know insurance will help but if insurance companies bone people over a few grand imagine millions.
 
2009-01-30 09:19:56 AM  
uptonogood:

fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


do us all a favor and surrender your passport once you land in your new country. fark you.
 
2009-01-30 09:20:07 AM  
img205.imageshack.us
 
2009-01-30 09:21:11 AM  
tonesskin:
Your a idiot.


If you're going to call someone an idiot...
 
2009-01-30 09:22:10 AM  
Was the "God was watching over us" guy among those who were biatching?

/please say yes
//DNRTFA
 
2009-01-30 09:22:20 AM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


Unless you are going into the depths of the Congo, or maybe Antarctica...dumb arse, the economic recession/craphole/void that we are in is effecting the entire world.

We are going to be sorry to see you go, I mean, there's a real shortage of foreigners who want to talk trash about the US.
 
2009-01-30 09:24:30 AM  
Fark smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.

Fark these dysfunctional,
Insecure airline passengers.

Learn to swim.
 
2009-01-30 09:26:24 AM  
z_gringo: Actually, A year isn't much.

For people that are flying all the time, they are elite status already and for the most part don't have to fly coach anyway.

For people that aren't already elite, they aren't flying but a few times a year if that.

I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.


I agree. A fixed number of upgrades (like 10) would be better for the fliers. Since I stopped flying for business, I have not flown, except internationally ... once ... in ten years.

/ten upgrades could also be used to upgrade others, like ones wife, kids or friends.
 
2009-01-30 09:27:31 AM  
Throw in a goose every Christmas.
 
2009-01-30 09:28:14 AM  
Gunderson: Fark smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.

Fark these dysfunctional,
Insecure airline passengers.

Learn to swim.


The point is that most of them won't probably want to fly within the next 12 months, or have the need to. In order to get these 'upgrades' they need to SPEND their own money.

/how about three flights and 10 upgrades?
 
2009-01-30 09:29:59 AM  
tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how people assume our society has become litigious based on the availability heuristic and not actual data.

STFU, noob (new window)

So farking what? Lawsuits have decreased some years, too. You show a single farking DATA POINT and try to justify your stupid little claim.

Your a idiot.


I'm not having this argument with you. Neither of us is going to win the other one's opinion, and you've proven time and time again to be a troll anyway. Besides, I think you're in the minority of people who think that frivolous lawsuits are less frequent now than, say, 10-20 years ago.
 
2009-01-30 09:30:04 AM  
sinanju: tonesskin:
Your a idiot.

If you're going to call someone an idiot...


HAHAHAHAHAHA! Your a idiot, two.

/pet peeve
 
2009-01-30 09:32:07 AM  
Give them a few free tickets or upgrades that they can use whenever the heck they fly again. Want something more? Sue the geese.
 
2009-01-30 09:33:24 AM  
ShillinTheVillain: Neither of us is going to win the other one's opinion, and you've proven time and time again to be a troll anyway. Besides, I think you're in the minority of people who think that frivolous lawsuits are less frequent now than, say, 10-20 years ago.

1) Facts aren't opinion.
2) I'm not trolling
3) Availability heuristic, etc.

You've now gone from "litigious" to "frivolous," so which did you mean?
 
2009-01-30 09:34:50 AM  
sixpack: Anyone watch Mythbusters They did one on seat safety. One guy said they build the seats to break so everyone dies in the crash because it is cheaper to pay a dead family then an alive complaining one.

Bullshiat. No such quote in that show.

/amazing how people "remember" what they want to heat, ain't it?
 
2009-01-30 09:34:54 AM  
OMG I was expecting this to happen. But inside, deep down I was really hoping that they would thank the crew, take the money for their luggage, thank their lucky stars they lived through the ordeal and go on with life. But I have been dissappointed.

While I hate the airlines as much as I hate any corporation in the US. This was in no way their fault, their employees did a wonderful job(they should be rewarded not the passengers) and they should not be buying off these passengers.
 
2009-01-30 09:36:24 AM  
bighairyguy

I LOL'd.
 
2009-01-30 09:37:20 AM  
joethorne.

Canadians may be the only group who feel they are entitled to tell other cultures how to act.
 
2009-01-30 09:37:26 AM  
How about they get on with their lives? shiat happens, and it's not always the companies fault.

I flew to Toronto in Dec. with Air Canada. On the flight back, we're minutes away from touching ground. The captain comes on and tells us something is wrong with the runway, and we can't land, we have to turn around.

What happens when we get to the airport? EVERYONE except two of us (me and my buddy. And literally, everyone else, it was a smaller plane, it was obvious) start complaining to Air Canada's manager, demanding free accommodations until we can fly back. They wouldn't give it to us, and I was apparently the only guy who understood that it wasn't Air Canada's fault, it was the airport in an entirely different province.

Like I said, shiat happens. You can't expect a free ride (no pun intended) because something bad happened to you.
 
2009-01-30 09:38:09 AM  
Maybe they're trying to offset the value of the checks they sent to the crew in gratitude.

My point: Those who performed the miracle = regular pay and pat on the back.

Those who did nothing but ride along = "Give me lots of money."
 
2009-01-30 09:38:58 AM  
nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

Good idea. US Airways didn't NEED to do anything. They just want some free good publicity, I think. The 5 free upgrades is a good idea.
 
2009-01-30 09:39:30 AM  
U.S. Airlines should give a copy of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand to every whining passenger on that plane. If you've read it, you know what I'm talking about.
 
2009-01-30 09:39:43 AM  
www.planetizen.com

Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind.

/WTF?
 
2009-01-30 09:39:54 AM  
tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: Neither of us is going to win the other one's opinion, and you've proven time and time again to be a troll anyway. Besides, I think you're in the minority of people who think that frivolous lawsuits are less frequent now than, say, 10-20 years ago.

1) Facts aren't opinion.
2) I'm not trolling
3) Availability heuristic, etc.

You've now gone from "litigious" to "frivolous," so which did you mean?


1.) You provided no facts, just your own misguided opinion.
2.) Maybe, maybe not
3.) I'm not basing that on recollections. I'm basing that on a definite long-term upward trend in litigation in the U.S. Yes, it may decrease one year, but the overall trend is upward. Read up on malpractice insurance as one good example.

And I'm not sure what you don't understand about litigious or frivolous. Allow me to spell it out for you. We, as a society, are suing more often now than we did in the past, and for more silly reasons than we used to.

Got it now? Or are you just going to resort to calling me an idiot and really build up the foundation for your own well-supported argument?
 
2009-01-30 09:42:12 AM  
it wasn't the airline's fault it crashed, why should they offer extended vouchers?

Whiny passengers that lived due to the amazing skill of the flight team need to STFU!
 
2009-01-30 09:43:41 AM  
miracledirt: A flight of 150, and the Post found two passengers to quote. One of the two seemed reasonable. Two more negative quotes from non-passengers and they've invented a story.

Winna! The Weekly World News has more journalistic integrity than the NYPost. I half expect them to run 1890's type stories claiming that the Irish shouldn't be considered human beings.
 
2009-01-30 09:44:08 AM  
the concept of suing here is laughable. What jury would actually agree with them?

certainly the majority of passengers do not feel they need MOAR compensation.
 
2009-01-30 09:45:53 AM  
sorr: sixpack: Anyone watch Mythbusters They did one on seat safety. One guy said they build the seats to break so everyone dies in the crash because it is cheaper to pay a dead family then an alive complaining one.

Bullshiat. No such quote in that show.

/amazing how people "remember" what they want to heat, ain't it?


That was the whole point of the episode, to disprove that myth.

Check this out
 
2009-01-30 09:46:11 AM  
how the conversation should've gone...


US Airways: FREE FIRST CLASS UPGRADES FOR A YEAR!

Passengers: Boo! We want it for a lifetime!!!

US Airways: F--- you. You ungrateful snots. You get nothing now.
 
2009-01-30 09:46:22 AM  
There was a time when I was glad to hear these people survived.

Now not so much.
 
2009-01-30 09:46:25 AM  
Maybe US Airways should give them each a free raft or something. You know, to remember the experience.
 
2009-01-30 09:47:45 AM  
They act like they are the survivors of flight 815 or something. Throw in a smoke monster and the others...

Now you're talking free upgrades for life...
 
2009-01-30 09:49:13 AM  
Although a year isn't much. This was not only not the airlines companies fault, but they did a great job in handling an impossible situation.

When you get on a plane, they say "in the event of a water landing...." that means that you know there is a chance of a water landing. People can sue, but I hope that the judges see that this isn't the airlines fault, it is just a crappy situation that everyone has to endure.
 
2009-01-30 09:49:51 AM  
nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

A fixed number instead of a time based one would have been a better choice, and i'm certain the airline wishes they had doen that now.
 
2009-01-30 09:50:40 AM  
To be fair, U.S. Airways charging each of them for a goose dinner WAS going a bit far...
 
2009-01-30 09:53:01 AM  
If it was me I would have called them out on it. Not because I'd want more upgrades, but because it's pretty transparently for the publicity for the airline.

Come out saying "You actually think I'll be flying anywhere in the next year? They can keep their empty guesture. I'm happy to be alive."

Then people will sympathize a little more. They come off as greedy here. Don't lump all the passengers together though, I'm sure many/most of them are normal, rational people who are happy to be okay.
 
2009-01-30 09:53:21 AM  
ShillinTheVillain: 1.) You provided no facts, just your own misguided opinion.

I never said it was my opinion. You did.

2.) Maybe, maybe not

Okay.

3.) I'm not basing that on recollections. I'm basing that on a definite long-term upward trend in litigation in the U.S. Yes, it may decrease one year, but the overall trend is upward. Read up on malpractice insurance as one good example.

Where is the trend? The win rate has certainly remained stable, and the rate of lawsuits being filed adjusted for population is stable. The majority of litigation in the United States is between two companies, not individuals.

Malpractice insurance has zero to do with litigation. It has to do with fear of litigation and insurance companies who settle because they have nothing to fear (they just pass the costs onto the doctors). The rate of winning malpractice suits is about 35%; the insurance companies should fight.

And I'm not sure what you don't understand about litigious or frivolous.

First you said more litigious, then you said more frivolous. They are two totally different things and totally different data points. For the latter, you can find THOUSANDS of seemingly frivolous cases starting in the 18th century, especially when the media reports them. The McDonalds coffee case, for instance, is one of the most un-frivolous cases out there yet people always bring it up as frivolous.

Allow me to spell it out for you. We, as a society, are suing more often now than we did in the past, and for more silly reasons than we used to.

You saying that doesn't make it true. Again, I think the "silly reasons" is entirely subjective (unless quantified by cases dismissed for being frivolous).

Got it now? Or are you just going to resort to calling me an idiot and really build up the foundation for your own well-supported argument?

Uh, you made the initial argument without support. I just think it's a silly farking argument. You are taking something with such a low base rate and trying to pretend like it's some kind of epidemic. It isn't.
 
2009-01-30 09:55:03 AM  
sinanju: tonesskin:
Your a idiot.

If you're going to call someone an idiot...


meme fail...
 
2009-01-30 09:55:32 AM  
"You're going to crash me into the water, and you're going to tell me all I get is an upgrade?" asked Antonio Sales, 20, who was traveling with the University of South Carolina's track team. "That's more of an 'OK, you're not dead, I'll give you something to hold on to.' It's not enough at all."

Well dumbass the plane could have crashed into a building and all the passengers could be dead. Everyone walked away from this. Not a single loss of life. Why should they get anything at all? US Airways isn't responsible for that flock of geese having been there and the pilot did a damn fine job of recovering from what could have been a complete catastrophe. I think US Airways fulfilled its obligation to the passengers when the pilot made as safe a landing as he did with no casualties.
 
2009-01-30 09:56:27 AM  
How about a lifetime of free cockpunch/KHITBASH service to these two idiots?
 
2009-01-30 09:57:26 AM  
knifefish: I'm sure many/most of them are normal, rational people who are happy to be okay.

I thought they were New Yorkers?
 
2009-01-30 09:57:31 AM  
Have a reunion flight.

Crash it properly this time.

Problem solved.
 
2009-01-30 10:03:28 AM  
Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.
 
2009-01-30 10:04:52 AM  
tonesskin: So farking what? Lawsuits have decreased some years, too. You show a single farking DATA POINT and try to justify your stupid little claim.

Your a idiot.



Actually, no, you're the idiot on this one.

[Since 1962] there are five times as many lawsuits today.

They are also increasingly settled out of court. In 1962 11.5% went to court. These days it's less than 2% that go to court, so you'll see spurious "debunkings" that claim the amount of lawsuits have dropped based solely on the misleading statistic of the number that make it to trial.

But that's nonsense. 15 million lawsuits will be filed this year, which is roughly one new one every two seconds. Additionally, Americans spend more on civil litigation than any other industrialized country - we spend twice as much on lawsuits as we do on automobiles, and we have more lawyers per capita then any other country in the world. That's a lot of money being sapped out of industries by lawyers, and a lot of extra cost built in to everything to compensate.
 
2009-01-30 10:05:55 AM  
Actually, due to the rarity of plane crashes, now is the greatest time to actually fly.
 
2009-01-30 10:06:41 AM  
Ever see the US Airways financials? One year might be a lifetime for them.
 
2009-01-30 10:07:11 AM  
incrdbil: nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

A fixed number instead of a time based one would have been a better choice, and i'm certain the airline wishes they had doen that now.


With the number of companies dying these days, that may not be necessarily true.

It would have seemed to be "An act of God". Clearly God is responsible and should be sued, not the airline.
 
2009-01-30 10:07:18 AM  
tgregory: how the conversation should've gone...

US Airways: FREE FIRST CLASS UPGRADES FOR A YEAR!
Passengers: Boo! We want it for a lifetime!!!
US Airways: F--- you. You ungrateful snots. You get nothing now.


okami36: Have a reunion flight.
Crash it properly this time.
Problem solved.


-----
Combine the two.
free upgrades for a year.

reunion flight at end of the year.

crash the flight

there, you've received free upgrades for life!

win-win!
 
2009-01-30 10:08:38 AM  
tonesskin: Uh, you made the initial argument without support. I just think it's a silly farking argument. You are taking something with such a low base rate and trying to pretend like it's some kind of epidemic. It isn't.

Fair enough. It sounds like you're probably more well-versed on this topic than I am, so I'll concede that I may be basing my stance on more conjecture than concrete evidence. It seems to me that people are more likely to sue at the drop of a hat today, but it might have always been this way and I just wasn't paying as much attention.

Either way, I don't want to argue this morning. I haven't had enough coffee.
 
2009-01-30 10:10:53 AM  
SlothB77: If it is just free upgrades to first class after i have to buy a coach ticket, eh, maybe i will fly three times in the next year. it is basically $50 per flight, on 6 flights, so compensation of $300 or so.

Where do you find these cheap upgrades? The last time I looked at an upgrade from coach, it was $90 for the flight from ORD to RDU (a $54 flight lasting 2.5 hours). That was definitely not worth it.

Any of the longer flights (nearly all of my flights are RDU -> SFO and return) are either not available for upgrade, or SIGNIFICANTLY higher (like in the upper $400s)
 
2009-01-30 10:11:41 AM  
I_Am_Weasel: incrdbil: nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

A fixed number instead of a time based one would have been a better choice, and i'm certain the airline wishes they had doen that now.

With the number of companies dying these days, that may not be necessarily true.

It would have seemed to be "An act of God". Clearly God is responsible and should be sued, not the airline.


Oh man, I wouldn't want to get involved their. I hear he's got people that can tie cases up for an eternity until the plaintiff runs out of funds to pursue.
 
2009-01-30 10:11:41 AM  
every one of those effing passengers should just sign their 5k over to the pilot.


Doesn't take too long for these guys to start demanding more. Must be married.
 
2009-01-30 10:22:14 AM  
You're going to crash me into the water

Yeah, buddy, like they did it on fukcing PURPOSE, too!!

I hope none of these people ever win the lottery.

Imagine the biatchin' about having to go pick up the check?
 
2009-01-30 10:23:49 AM  
For fark's sake, you got out of a plan wreck alive, and even without a scratch (for the most part).

Stop being so greedy!! You got your life, and that is priceless.
 
2009-01-30 10:27:52 AM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


+1
 
2009-01-30 10:29:00 AM  
jaggspb: uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys

don't let the door hit ya on the way out. i hear North Korea is nice this time of year.


-1
 
2009-01-30 10:30:46 AM  
Sniper 1: You guys are slamming 150 people over the comments from about four. Not everyone on that plane feels the same way.

It's the quiet ones you have to worry about - they're consulting with an attorney. If at least ten people don't sue I'll eat my hat.
 
2009-01-30 10:32:39 AM  
bighairguy

Comedy Gold!!!
 
2009-01-30 10:33:03 AM  
Pugnacious shiats like that should be cock/coont punched on TV.
 
2009-01-30 10:33:42 AM  
"Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."
 
2009-01-30 10:34:23 AM  
They are being shiatheads for demanding more after they already received money (considering there were no fatalities), but I don't understand why the passengers of the flight should feel "grateful" to US Airways. "US Airways saved their lives!!!" Oh, you mean by pulling them out of the crash that US Airways got them into in the first place?
 
2009-01-30 10:35:44 AM  
I was in a car accident with a 22 Wheeler from a construction company. My car was totaled, but I came out of it completely unscathed. No one was deemed "at fault" by the police. It was totally an accident. History of back problems previously, but never documented by insurance.

Everyone I know was telling me to sue. "You should have gone to the hospital, and claimed it messed your back up.." to "You can take the construction company to the cleaners."

I was in a car accident. I did not win the lottery.
Refused to perpetuate the problem.

Most Americans do suck.
 
2009-01-30 10:36:11 AM  
'THIS' to about 97% of comments, nix to the other 3%
 
2009-01-30 10:37:36 AM  
this is further proof that most of america has officially turned into namby pamby, self righteous, douchebag, entitled pussies
 
2009-01-30 10:39:21 AM  
santadog: I was in a car accident with a 22 Wheeler from a construction company. My car was totaled, but I came out of it completely unscathed. No one was deemed "at fault" by the police. It was totally an accident. History of back problems previously, but never documented by insurance.

Everyone I know was telling me to sue. "You should have gone to the hospital, and claimed it messed your back up.." to "You can take the construction company to the cleaners."

I was in a car accident. I did not win the lottery.
Refused to perpetuate the problem.

Most Americans do suck.


That's why I laugh when people complain about lawyers. Lawyers don't sue; YOU DO, PEOPLE!
 
2009-01-30 10:40:28 AM  
santadog

I was in a car accident with a 22 Wheeler from a construction company. My car was totaled, but I came out of it completely unscathed.


Can you give us details? I could potentially help you sue. I just graduated top of my class from online traffic school (on an academic scholarship).
 
2009-01-30 10:41:47 AM  
santadog: I was in a car accident with a 22 Wheeler from a construction company. My car was totaled, but I came out of it completely unscathed. No one was deemed "at fault" by the police. It was totally an accident. History of back problems previously, but never documented by insurance.

Everyone I know was telling me to sue. "You should have gone to the hospital, and claimed it messed your back up.." to "You can take the construction company to the cleaners."

I was in a car accident. I did not win the lottery.
Refused to perpetuate the problem.

Most Americans do suck.



Good for you, seriously.

I hit the back of a car a few months ago, completely my fault. But the woman I hit (though pissed her bumper was ruined) was very cool about it. There was no complaints of any injury from herself of the passenger. I was grateful.

I'm in Canada, but it still could've sucked.
 
2009-01-30 10:42:34 AM  
Why shouldn't these people get free upgrades for life? I'm thinking the average person flies 1 time per year. That's 155 free first class upgrades a year that really cost USAir nothing; as opposed to lawsuits from all of these people that could cost millions. If you don't want problems like this, don't crash planes into rivers.
 
2009-01-30 10:44:13 AM  
I don't wish harm to anyone, but you know..the ones who are biatching ought to all die
 
2009-01-30 10:44:31 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: If you don't want problems like this, don't crash planes into rivers.

You just read the bold words in a news story, don't you?
 
2009-01-30 10:45:26 AM  
mistervague: santadog: I was in a car accident with a 22 Wheeler from a construction company. My car was totaled, but I came out of it completely unscathed. No one was deemed "at fault" by the police. It was totally an accident. History of back problems previously, but never documented by insurance.

Everyone I know was telling me to sue. "You should have gone to the hospital, and claimed it messed your back up.." to "You can take the construction company to the cleaners."

I was in a car accident. I did not win the lottery.
Refused to perpetuate the problem.

Most Americans do suck.

That's why I laugh when people complain about lawyers. Lawyers don't sue; YOU DO, PEOPLE!


No, but lawyers encourage people to sue and defend people they know are guilty of ridiculous things. If you know your client is guilty, you should make that fact known. Fark attorney client privelege, if your client killed 14 people and you know it and still get them off, you and the murderer should go to jail for life.
 
2009-01-30 10:47:14 AM  
Howabout, be happy you're not dead. US Airways provided you with a safe airplane and a damn good pilot. If anything, sue the airport for not getting the geese outta the way.
 
2009-01-30 10:49:00 AM  
IXI Jim IXI: CBR ME ASAP: If you don't want problems like this, don't crash planes into rivers.

You just read the bold words in a news story, don't you?


What the fark is that supposed to mean? Unless I missed something, these people paid to fly to Charlotte not the Hudson river. I'd say it was a pretty traumatizing experience. If they all died, there would be 155 lawsuits, since they all lived USAir should be off the hook...is that what you're saying?
 
2009-01-30 10:51:53 AM  
tonesskin:
Your a idiot.


I actually laughed out loud. That is classic!
 
2009-01-30 10:52:47 AM  
FeeltheIllinoise: Howabout, be happy you're not dead. US Airways provided you with a safe airplane and a damn good pilot. If anything, sue the airport for not getting the geese outta the way.

Easy to say when you are on the outside looking in.
 
2009-01-30 10:52:58 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: IXI Jim IXI: CBR ME ASAP: If you don't want problems like this, don't crash planes into rivers.

You just read the bold words in a news story, don't you?

What the fark is that supposed to mean? Unless I missed something, these people paid to fly to Charlotte not the Hudson river. I'd say it was a pretty traumatizing experience. If they all died, there would be 155 lawsuits, since they all lived USAir should be off the hook...is that what you're saying?


People are saying that this is a genuine accident. The airline is not at fault. The aeroplane manufacturer is not at fault. It was caused by geese. The passengers are mostly just grateful that they're alive. A couple of morans believe that they'll get rich apportioning blame where there is none. These people are deserving of our scorn. As are you if you think they're right.
 
2009-01-30 10:56:15 AM  
The crew saved their lives
The airline hiring the best people and giving them great training saved their lives
The passengers acting sensible and calm saved each other lives.
The people jumping into boats and reaching them quickly saved their lives (well at least the people who can't swim).
This was a act of God (well "Bird God")

The passangers dont deserve anything from the airline.

Another example of ... something bad happened to me, how do I make a profit. Of course it was stupid for the airlines to do this because its bad PR.
 
2009-01-30 10:56:17 AM  
This article is meaningless without a quote from someone named Kolodjay.
 
2009-01-30 10:56:58 AM  
Ding Dong Seven: Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.


A plane load of THIS!
 
2009-01-30 10:59:11 AM  
Perhaps they should just be glad to be alive....
 
2009-01-30 11:03:37 AM  
The Envoy: CBR ME ASAP: IXI Jim IXI: CBR ME ASAP: If you don't want problems like this, don't crash planes into rivers.

You just read the bold words in a news story, don't you?

What the fark is that supposed to mean? Unless I missed something, these people paid to fly to Charlotte not the Hudson river. I'd say it was a pretty traumatizing experience. If they all died, there would be 155 lawsuits, since they all lived USAir should be off the hook...is that what you're saying?

People are saying that this is a genuine accident. The airline is not at fault. The aeroplane manufacturer is not at fault. It was caused by geese. The passengers are mostly just grateful that they're alive. A couple of morans believe that they'll get rich apportioning blame where there is none. These people are deserving of our scorn. As are you if you think they're right.


How do you know who is and is not at fault? Were you watching from above? How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided? Maybe brass balls was catching a round of jaw from the hot flight attendant and could've avoided the geese. Anything could have happened to cause this. The NTSB has said the investigation will take a YEAR. Good thing we have people like you that can apportion blame in hours without access to any of the facts or evidence not stated in the NYPost.

I don't think anyone is trying to get rich. These people get free upgrades for a YEAR???? For most of them that probably means NO FREE UPGRADES because they won't be flying this year. If that's the case they might feel like it would have been better for USAir to just say sorry and be done with it, but free upgrades for a year probably reeks of a publicity stunt to some.
 
2009-01-30 11:04:53 AM  
nearscentedhound: Ding Dong Seven: Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.

A plane load of THIS!


You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you.
 
2009-01-30 11:09:16 AM  
SlothB77: i plan to fly once, maybe twice in the next year.

if i were given free trips first class, that number goes up to more than five times. I'll fly everywhere.

If it is just free upgrades to first class after i have to buy a coach ticket, eh, maybe i will fly three times in the next year. it is basically $50 per flight, on 6 flights, so compensation of $300 or so.

But, since i would have flown less without the offer and some of those free first class seats i got would not have been sold anyways, the cost to the airline is essentially zero.


Just flew with USAir to Phoenix from Indianapolis (getting a kick...) and they sold the upgrades for $150. Delta charges from $50-150 depending on distance, and Airtran does sell upgrades from $49 to $99. The 50 buck upgrades are for shortish (about) 500-mile flights.
 
2009-01-30 11:09:17 AM  
FlippityFlap: Perhaps they should just be glad to be alive....

Welcome to US Airways - Just be glad you're alive.
 
2009-01-30 11:09:58 AM  
I'd prefer a guarantee that my luggage will always arrive in the same city that I do.
 
2009-01-30 11:11:27 AM  
B..b..but the "Oceannic 6" got free flights for life...
 
2009-01-30 11:11:30 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Ding Dong Seven: Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.

A plane load of THIS!

You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you.


Aren't you just the sweetest little troll. Here's something fun that you can do today. Research "limited liability"... you may also want to research "sh*t happens", because it does.

Also, you may want to haul your butt away from your computer once in a while. If you actually got out now and then, you may come to realize that when "sh*t happens", it makes you a tougher person. When you survive trauma, you are stronger for it. That's so much better than being a whining pansy with no backbone, but you absolutely have to have a life to experience it.

Ok. Have a great day. :)
 
2009-01-30 11:12:08 AM  
CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.
 
2009-01-30 11:16:36 AM  
Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.


But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)
 
2009-01-30 11:17:12 AM  
CBR ME ASAP:
I don't think anyone is trying to get rich. These people get free upgrades for a YEAR???? For most of them that probably means NO FREE UPGRADES because they won't be flying this year. If that's the case they might feel like it would have been better for USAir to just say sorry and be done with it, but free upgrades for a year probably reeks of a publicity stunt to some.


You do realise that this was an airliner right? Not an F18 with Maverick at the helm? Avoid the geese!

How did I start my last post? "People are saying". Show me where I said that I was there and knew for a fact. Oh, I didn't? You're excused. I love how you attempt to castigate me for coming to my conclusion without evidence but then go straight in to admitting that you know what the passengers are thinking. Nice work.

It has often been stated that bird strike caused the accident. The parts of birds recovered from the engines seem to bear that up. I'm going to pre-emptively believe that this is the case, like most people do.

The passengers who are complaining, such as the chump oft-quoted in TFT, seem to think that they DESERVE more than they got, which in this case was their lives. They don't deserve more and if they don't think that participating in a publicity stunt for a company who provided the means for them to walk away from the crash with their lives is worthwhile then they can STFU and boycott. Seriously, bollocks to them.
 
2009-01-30 11:20:49 AM  
joethorne.: How exactly was this crash the fault of US Airways? Are they supposed to be able to control geese?

You got 5 grand, future expense claims, and some good faith flights. Americans might be the only people in existence who feel they're owed something from an unavoidable accent.


Fuhgettaboutit
 
2009-01-30 11:23:34 AM  
The passengers should be afforded the opportunity to orally satisfy Sully in gratitude and no more.
 
2009-01-30 11:24:02 AM  
nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Ding Dong Seven: Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.

A plane load of THIS!

You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you.

Aren't you just the sweetest little troll. Here's something fun that you can do today. Research "limited liability"... you may also want to research "sh*t happens", because it does.

Also, you may want to haul your butt away from your computer once in a while. If you actually got out now and then, you may come to realize that when "sh*t happens", it makes you a tougher person. When you survive trauma, you are stronger for it. That's so much better than being a whining pansy with no backbone, but you absolutely have to have a life to experience it.

Ok. Have a great day. :)


You may also want to take a look at the real world. In particular check out "cheap publicity stunt".
 
2009-01-30 11:25:21 AM  
nearscentedhound: Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.

But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)


And I'm the troll....try attacking the argument, not the person.
 
2009-01-30 11:27:01 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

You couldn't avoid a flock of geese flying at you in a car. How do you think a passenger plane could?

Speed of plane... speed of geese.. yeah right.
 
2009-01-30 11:27:16 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Ding Dong Seven: Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.

A plane load of THIS!

You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you.

Aren't you just the sweetest little troll. Here's something fun that you can do today. Research "limited liability"... you may also want to research "sh*t happens", because it does.

Also, you may want to haul your butt away from your computer once in a while. If you actually got out now and then, you may come to realize that when "sh*t happens", it makes you a tougher person. When you survive trauma, you are stronger for it. That's so much better than being a whining pansy with no backbone, but you absolutely have to have a life to experience it.

Ok. Have a great day. :)

You may also want to take a look at the real world. In particular check out "cheap publicity stunt".


LOL - Here in the real world, sweetie, cheap publicity stunts are a dime a dozen. Again, step outside once in awhile and you'll start picking up on that too. ;~)
 
2009-01-30 11:27:29 AM  
I didn't bother to read the thread, so I'm sure I'm just reiterating, but....

First of all, this was an accident. This incident was not by any means foreseeable or controllable by US Airways. I'm inclined to think that had any other pilot been at the helm, all the people on that plane would be feeding the marine life in the Hudson River.

To those demanding more: You are not OWED a goddamn thing. By federal law, they are only required to compensate you $250 for lost luggage, whereas you received five thousand dollars. Not only that, but you got a year of free upgrades to first class. Despite what one may think, that kind of cash does add up - especially when the industry is suffering as a whole. To top it off, the passengers don't even have to waive their rights to sue to accept these concessions.

But no, you say, that's not enough. The misplaced sense of entitlement here is absolutely staggering. This kind of bullshiat and national/societal attitude does not help the global perception of our culture.

In short, GO FARK YOURSELVES.

To those that were on the flight that aren't demanding concessions like a spoiled toddler, congrats. You're decent human beings. Live long and prosper.
 
2009-01-30 11:28:29 AM  
they are complimentary SPACE AVAILABLE upgrades. if there is a first class seat, they would be in the running to get it. there are no guarantees that they will be accomodated on any particular flight. and if it is on a smaller airplane--us air express, there are typically no first class seats.

what would be a better gesture is to give the passengers a lifetime membership in the u.s. airways club. then, if they are traveling thru an airport with a club, they would be able to use the club facilities, no matter what the plane is--or depending on what airport, what airline they are flying that particular day.
 
2009-01-30 11:29:33 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.

But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)

And I'm the troll....try attacking the argument, not the person.


CBR states: "You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you."

Hmmmm... Yes, I see how you attacked the argument there and not the persons. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Maybe this explains why you don't live in the real world, you're too sensitive even for this. Have a nice day, trollmaster, I've got some living to do. =D
 
2009-01-30 11:30:17 AM  
The Envoy: CBR ME ASAP:
I don't think anyone is trying to get rich. These people get free upgrades for a YEAR???? For most of them that probably means NO FREE UPGRADES because they won't be flying this year. If that's the case they might feel like it would have been better for USAir to just say sorry and be done with it, but free upgrades for a year probably reeks of a publicity stunt to some.

You do realise that this was an airliner right? Not an F18 with Maverick at the helm? Avoid the geese!

How did I start my last post? "People are saying". Show me where I said that I was there and knew for a fact. Oh, I didn't? You're excused. I love how you attempt to castigate me for coming to my conclusion without evidence but then go straight in to admitting that you know what the passengers are thinking. Nice work.

It has often been stated that bird strike caused the accident. The parts of birds recovered from the engines seem to bear that up. I'm going to pre-emptively believe that this is the case, like most people do.

The passengers who are complaining, such as the chump oft-quoted in TFT, seem to think that they DESERVE more than they got, which in this case was their lives. They don't deserve more and if they don't think that participating in a publicity stunt for a company who provided the means for them to walk away from the crash with their lives is worthwhile then they can STFU and boycott. Seriously, bollocks to them.


Notice the usage of the words "might" and "probably" in my post. You whine that I called you out for "stating the facts", and then turn around and do the same farking thing.

My point in all of this is that this reeks of cheap opportunism by USAir. I, for one, would be happy with reimbursement for my ruined luggage and a sincere apology. But when the PR Dept starts giving out token perks that amount to shiat and making sure it is well publicized, I say fark USAir, I hope they get sued.
 
2009-01-30 11:33:51 AM  
santadog: CBR ME ASAP: How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

You couldn't avoid a flock of geese flying at you in a car. How do you think a passenger plane could?

Speed of plane... speed of geese.. yeah right.


Nice example. Plane=car, I get it. You could always hit the brakes.

Let's just ignore the fact that you completely missed my point. Nobody here on fark knows how this went down. To say that certain people are or are not to blame is retarded, unless of course you asre privy to the facts and evidence.
 
2009-01-30 11:35:03 AM  
nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Ding Dong Seven: Seeing that this was not the fault of the airline, they don't deserve jack shiat. If they'd all died, their families wouldn't have deserved jack shiat. There's no such thing as being 100% safe. If the pilot had been drunk, or if the airline had failed to maintain the plane, sure. But they cannot control every goose that skeets around out there - if you insist on pointing fingers, the airport itself would be the ones to biatch at.

It's called life, assholes.

How long till we have someone shiat themselves because of turbulence, and end up demanding free upgrades for life, and a $100 million?

Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.

A plane load of THIS!

You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you.

Aren't you just the sweetest little troll. Here's something fun that you can do today. Research "limited liability"... you may also want to research "sh*t happens", because it does.

Also, you may want to haul your butt away from your computer once in a while. If you actually got out now and then, you may come to realize that when "sh*t happens", it makes you a tougher person. When you survive trauma, you are stronger for it. That's so much better than being a whining pansy with no backbone, but you absolutely have to have a life to experience it.

Ok. Have a great day. :)

You may also want to take a look at the real world. In particular check out "cheap publicity stunt".

LOL - Here in the real world, sweetie, cheap publicity stunts are a dime a dozen. Again, step outside once in awhile and you'll start picking up on that too. ;~)


Ok, I will, thanks for the advice.
 
2009-01-30 11:38:27 AM  
nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.

But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)

And I'm the troll....try attacking the argument, not the person.

CBR states: "You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you."

Hmmmm... Yes, I see how you attacked the argument there and not the persons. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Maybe this explains why you don't live in the real world, you're too sensitive even for this. Have a nice day, trollmaster, I've got some living to do. =D


There was no argument from those retards. Unless you consider, "I hope they all die in a plane crash" to be a valid argument.

I must be a good troll then, I've gotten 10 farking responses from you alone.
 
2009-01-30 11:45:23 AM  
I think if I had been on that plane, I would want some free trips on Amtrak, instead, as I don't know if I would be getting on a plane again anytime soon.
 
2009-01-30 11:45:27 AM  
One of the cocks from the article complaining about it not being enough. (pops)
 
2009-01-30 11:49:09 AM  
And one of the other cocks (pops)
 
2009-01-30 11:49:21 AM  
DslainteC: I can understand the passengers side of the story,

I can't. This wasn't due to pilot error or negligence on part of the airline. This was caused by geese. An act of nature if you will. This isn't anyone's fault. So why should these passengers be rewarded by the airline? They should thank their lucky stars that they are still alive and be done with it.
 
2009-01-30 11:50:07 AM  
A year of upgrades, $5000 each and another chance at life...and they want more? If US Airways would have known they would not be grateful for their lives they should have just let them crash and burn.
 
2009-01-30 11:52:18 AM  
CBR ME ASAP: I don't think anyone is trying to get rich. These people get free upgrades for a YEAR???? For most of them that probably means NO FREE UPGRADES because they won't be flying this year. If that's the case they might feel like it would have been better for USAir to just say sorry and be done with it, but free upgrades for a year probably reeks of a publicity stunt to some.

Yeah, "Sorry that there are birds in the air. We'll try to do something about that next time".

And can you also do something about the god damned deer that jump in front of cars too.
 
2009-01-30 11:55:21 AM  
Why should US Airways be responsible. The air traffic controllers are the ones who cleared the plane for takeoff into a flock of geese.
 
2009-01-30 11:55:56 AM  
img136.imageshack.us
 
2009-01-30 11:57:14 AM  
They should really feel stupid for getting anything at all. US Airways's only role in this was saving their lives.
 
2009-01-30 12:00:21 PM  
StarSys: A year of upgrades, $5000 each and another chance at life...and they want more? If US Airways would have known they would not be grateful for their lives they should have just let them crash and burn.

I'm gonna agree.

/*Ding!* X gets a square!
 
2009-01-30 12:00:37 PM  
perhaps they should be thrilled they get to keep their lives..
 
2009-01-30 12:02:05 PM  
And didn't most of these people proclaim how thankful they were to God for being alive? Apparently not thankful enough.

"Praise Jebus for saving my life, now GIMME MY FARKING COMPENSATION!!"

/I do not like your Christians
//They are so unlike your Christ....
 
2009-01-30 12:03:20 PM  
Did anyone watch the video of that pilot's award ceremony? His younger wife came out and acted like she was accepting the crown for Miss America. Then he came out and said "I was just doing my job" and left.
 
2009-01-30 12:10:29 PM  
The greedy passengers asking for more can DIAR for all I care.
 
2009-01-30 12:26:21 PM  
CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.

But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)

And I'm the troll....try attacking the argument, not the person.

CBR states: "You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you."

Hmmmm... Yes, I see how you attacked the argument there and not the persons. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Maybe this explains why you don't live in the real world, you're too sensitive even for this. Have a nice day, trollmaster, I've got some living to do. =D

There was no argument from those retards. Unless you consider, "I hope they all die in a plane crash" to be a valid argument.

I must be a good troll then, I've gotten 10 farking responses from you alone.
 
2009-01-30 12:27:08 PM  
CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.

But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)

And I'm the troll....try attacking the argument, not the person.

CBR states: "You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you."

Hmmmm... Yes, I see how you attacked the argument there and not the persons. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Maybe this explains why you don't live in the real world, you're too sensitive even for this. Have a nice day, trollmaster, I've got some living to do. =D

There was no argument from those retards. Unless you consider, "I hope they all die in a plane crash" to be a valid argument.

I must be a good troll then, I've gotten 10 farking responses from you alone.


You can't count, either... why does that not surprise me?
 
2009-01-30 12:39:00 PM  
US Airways needs to 'upgrade' all the whiney people back on their own, remote controlled plane.

... and fly that into a mountain.

Asses.
 
2009-01-30 12:40:51 PM  
How about a free upgrade to a slap upside the head?

/First Class isn't that great anyway on domestic flights.
//International? Oh hell yes it is.
 
2009-01-30 12:41:23 PM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


As a fellow Iowan, (well former Iowan), I can tell you your problem isn't with the USA, it's with the state you're in. Move west or east and see if that doesn't clear up a lot of your problems. Don't go south though.
 
2009-01-30 12:42:03 PM  
Ding Dong Seven: Assholes. I have no sympathy. Put the bastards on a kamikaze plane and crash it into a sewage plant.

Heh. I didn't even see you posted this until after I made my post.

Agree 100%.
 
2009-01-30 12:42:37 PM  
Pincy: CBR ME ASAP: I don't think anyone is trying to get rich. These people get free upgrades for a YEAR???? For most of them that probably means NO FREE UPGRADES because they won't be flying this year. If that's the case they might feel like it would have been better for USAir to just say sorry and be done with it, but free upgrades for a year probably reeks of a publicity stunt to some.

Yeah, "Sorry that there are birds in the air. We'll try to do something about that next time".

And can you also do something about the god damned deer that jump in front of cars too.


As far as the deer, I kill as many as I legally can each year. That's about the best I can do for you.
 
2009-01-30 12:44:19 PM  
nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: CBR ME ASAP: nearscentedhound: Lasolimu: CBR ME ASAP:How do you know that the geese could not have been avoided?

Geese are agile animals in the air whereas a plane is not. Also geese are small and there is no way the pilot could know they were there and that he needed to do something to avoid them. Also, the geese were not stationary, they were in motion making it so the pilot could not predict their motions. It is quite clear that avoiding the geese was not a simple option.

But... but... Lasolimu... CBR has never hit a goose while he's playing X Plane 8.0 between posts! It can't really be any harder in real life!!! ;~)

And I'm the troll....try attacking the argument, not the person.

CBR states: "You two sound very intelligent. I bet you wonder why people hate you."

Hmmmm... Yes, I see how you attacked the argument there and not the persons. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Maybe this explains why you don't live in the real world, you're too sensitive even for this. Have a nice day, trollmaster, I've got some living to do. =D

There was no argument from those retards. Unless you consider, "I hope they all die in a plane crash" to be a valid argument.

I must be a good troll then, I've gotten 10 farking responses from you alone.

You can't count, either... why does that not surprise me?


This from the guy that can't figure out how to post a comment.

No, I can count, I just don't give a fark.
 
2009-01-30 12:51:53 PM  
rhiannon: "I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?


No, but they could figure out that all of those extra safety things they do beyond federal requirements dont pay off in crashes. Extra pilot training or aisle lights? Super-day-glow inflatable life vests with nice little watertight flashing lights? Out the door.

I'm just saying - once you start putting a price on when a company isnt at fault and still has to compensate you for living then they start calculated the costs of all scenarios including how much your life is worth to keep.
 
2009-01-30 12:53:40 PM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


As another fellow Iowan, fark you. Your general assumption based on a small amount of people you know or may have read about is ignorant and just plain stupid. When you leave the country, please never come back.
 
2009-01-30 01:15:38 PM  
I took this airline to Costa Rica over Christmas, and I've never been made to feel like a head of cattle more than traveling US Airways.

- all four flights were late with no apology.
- nearly impossible to get through to a person via the customer service line.
- No assistance (or even sympathy) given when concern was expressed about possibly missing a layover.
- longest lines ever to check in (90 minutes for me).
- $15 per luggage for ANY checked luggage, despite having an international destination.
- no food on the flight unless you pay $5-$10. Peanuts? NOT YOURS.
- hot meal on a long international flight? forget it.
- all drinks, including soft drinks AND WATER must be paid for.
- CASH ONLY in USD - the Canadians with a toddler behind me who had a layover in Phoenix were farked, because they wouldn't accept credit cards or Canadian money for WATER for their KID (they got irate)
- ok, so there's no TV in every headrest. How about a movie on international flights like they used to do before the TV-headrest thing? HAHAHAHA.


/sorry i get mad again just thinking about that airline. I'm taking foreign carriers from now on whenever possible.
 
2009-01-30 01:18:09 PM  
I think they watch too much Lost. But I think they should get a few free flights out of the deal. I've flown first class as a free upgrade before. BFD, I could care less about an upgrade. Like most people I only fly a few times a year. You have what, 140ish people, How much in real costs would it be to give them each five free flights?
 
2009-01-30 01:20:32 PM  
LessO2: Ever see the US Airways financials? One year might be a lifetime for them.

Oh, I hope you're right.
 
2009-01-30 01:23:41 PM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

Hey, don't hate on our nation's over-inflated sense of self-entitlement. We're the victims here. The customer is always right.

/poor us.
 
2009-01-30 01:49:54 PM  
images.teamsugar.com

Unimpressed.
 
2009-01-30 01:55:00 PM  
justanotherfarkinfarker: I think they watch too much Lost.

That's what I came here to say.

Honestly though, free upgrades for a year is diddly. Most people don't fly often enough to make that worth very much. How about free upgrades for the next five years, max five upgrades total or something. Or a brazillion dollars. That would be good too.
 
2009-01-30 02:16:43 PM  
LoneVVolf: It's stories like this that restore my misfaith in humanity.

...disturbing.

Aidan: If you're the only survivor... You're automatically a hero!

Branded!
Scorned as the one who ran.
What do you do when you're branded
And you know you're a man?

And wherever you go for the rest of your life
You must prove you're a man!

/ Fark the money-grubbers
 
2009-01-30 02:25:01 PM  
Wow. That would be worth something, if you traveled more than once a year. There aren't many people who top one.
 
2009-01-30 02:31:16 PM  
Iwouldhitit: labman: When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?

Yes! And I expect deers to give me free venison for life.

/Gimme


Can have
/yours
 
2009-01-30 02:56:13 PM  
Free flights in second class for a year, or 5 flights in first class for the rest of their lifetime, in addition to what's already been given. Honestly I don't think they needed to do any compensation since it was a random act of nature, which they had no control over, and they did the best thing they could by insuring that their pilots are well trained in the case of such emergencies. If they want to sue anybody, sue the folks who made engines which were not invincible to every concievable situation, or better yet the geese. They made it off that plan with their lives, they should be grateful.
 
2009-01-30 03:04:29 PM  
This accident wasn't the fault of United Airlines. These people are owed NOTHING.

What a bunch of assholes.
 
2009-01-30 03:17:48 PM  
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2009-01-30 03:28:07 PM  
Thrown these motherfarkers back into the river.

Their costs are just going to be kicked back to the regular fliers.
 
2009-01-30 03:47:45 PM  
Sniper 1: You guys are slamming 150 people over the comments from about four. Not everyone on that plane feels the same way.

Fark? Over generalizing? I think you MUST be mistaken
 
2009-01-30 04:02:57 PM  
joethorne.: How exactly was this crash the fault of US Airways? Are they supposed to be able to control geese?

You got 5 grand, future expense claims, and some good faith flights. Americans might be the only people in existence who feel they're owed something from an unavoidable accent.


i agree, i hate seeing people sueing for like, speaking in a regional dialect such as brooklynese.
 
2009-01-30 05:25:17 PM  
aresef

Unimpressed.

Would have been disappointed if someone had not posted that. First thing I thought of.
 
2009-01-30 05:43:47 PM  
onelikeseabass: This accident wasn't the fault of United Airlines. These people are owed NOTHING.

What a bunch of assholes.


If they're trying to shake down United Airlines I would have to agree.
 
2009-01-30 06:22:58 PM  
Is it USAirways's fault that geese flew into the engine? Fark these farking whiny attention whores. Thanks to the quick-thinking of the captain and crew (who were employees of said airline), all of the passengers survived and eventually made it safely to their destinations.
 
2009-01-30 08:18:01 PM  
not2bright 2009-01-30 08:32:08 AM
They already got a lifetime upgrade from "Dead".

Win.
 
2009-01-30 09:16:17 PM  
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2009-01-30 10:17:15 PM  
BalugaJoe: Give them free one way tickets to Biafra. No inflight meal.

Not even Jello?

/I know I'm late
 
2009-01-30 10:29:33 PM  
Ensconced in this article and in many of these posts, is exactly what's wrong with the people in this country today.

I drive 10 hours a day to make my living, and I'm thankful everyday I get home safe and all in one piece in body and vehicle. These folks need to severely reexamine their priorities.
 
2009-01-30 11:01:46 PM  
When I spring for a first class flight, I want the person sitting next to me to regale me with the story of how they crashed once.

"What are the chances of surviving, huh?" they can tell me. "Most people die when an airliner crashes. So, in the unlikely event of a crash today, I've already used up all the good luck."
 
2009-01-31 01:08:50 AM  
Wow, and here I'd be asking for free airfare for at least a year or more. It's not like the survivors didn't lose most every posession they had on board, including in their checked bags... laptops, computers... and they want to compensate them with something that's completely worthless? No way.
 
2009-01-31 03:47:43 AM  
Some of these people are probably irritated that the golden opportunity to drag out a big settlement was offset by a company and employees who did everything humanly possible to avoid a catastrophe.

There were reports of some passengers (this is unsubstantiated, mind you) that were furious when told they would face difficult challenges in litigating against US Airways. It's almost as if they wanted to take a slight injury that they could exploit for millions.

If anything, I would fly US Airways because they performed exemplary in a dangerous situation. The entire company from the stewardesses on up did everything they could. Walking away from something like this is a bigger reward than some of them deserved.
 
2009-01-31 04:22:58 AM  
My dad's cousin was a pilot back in the 70's. Their plane went down, all were killed, something like 79 people or something. His wife and daughters were given lifetime free flights.

Only problem was the airline was Pan Am. But they got a few years out of it, though I don't know that they traveled much to begin with.
 
2009-02-02 04:11:55 PM  
Ok. Look. I understand you went through something traumatic. But the plane getting FOD'd was not their fault. You didn't die. Frankly, getting my money back and getting reimbursed for the trip is all I want. Getting money for my sunken luggage is a bonus. Getting upgrades for a year is extra awesome.

Now you're just getting greedy.
 
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