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(NYPost)   Passengers of U.S. Airways flight 1549 thrilled to be given free first class upgrades for a year. Just kidding, they're biatching their lungs out because they want free upgrades for life   (nypost.com) divider line 266
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2009-01-30 09:08:18 AM
Welcome to America, where we're all entitled to lots of goodies anytime we don't like the outcome of any situation.

In this case, surviving a major accident isn't enoguh unless it comes with perks, too, and by God, we'll decide which perks are enough to make up for the mental anguish of living through what could have been a fatal crash.

/or is that "should have been?"
 
2009-01-30 09:08:29 AM
auditd0rk.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-01-30 09:08:44 AM
not2bright: They already got a lifetime upgrade from "Dead".

Worthy of repeating.
 
2009-01-30 09:09:03 AM
Boo Hoo

Fark all these self-centered b@astards. Just because something bad happens doesn't entitle you to jack shait, especially since it wasn't even the airlines fault.
 
2009-01-30 09:10:00 AM
U.S. Airways was not negligent in any way. It would have been better to offer nothing than a token.

If there was some negligence on US Airways part, I'd be singing a different tune, but in this circumstance, I don't think they need to offer anything.
 
2009-01-30 09:11:18 AM
I don't think they should get anything at all. They're LUCKY, apparently a little fact that has escaped their notice. Opportunistic ingrates should get down on their knees and thank God that they escaped so easily.

/Maybe the airline should always save LUGGAGE first, since clearly that is where the true value is to so many.
//Maybe the passengers should sue the Geese?LOL
 
2009-01-30 09:11:30 AM
Anyone watch Mythbusters They did one on seat safety. One guy said they build the seats to break so everyone dies in the crash because it is cheaper to pay a dead family then an alive complaining one.
 
2009-01-30 09:11:37 AM
Bunch of freeloaders. I wonder who they voted for...
 
2009-01-30 09:13:43 AM
for 150 people...yeah that should have been for life. For that small token, you couldn't buy that kind of PR.

I remember a small independent cruise liner that broke down at see a few years ago. They got stuck out there for 2 days. As the news crews met the offloading passengers at the dock, they were waiting breathlessly for the horrors of being stuck out at sea.

This cruise liner opened the bars and had chefs on 24 hours, making anything these people wanted. One guy interviewed basically said those were the two best days of his life, hooked up with multiple girls in a drunken stupor. everyone else said that a good time was had by all.

So you do the little things, get great press and move on.

That being said, those people biatching should stfu.
 
2009-01-30 09:16:48 AM
ShillinTheVillain: tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how people assume our society has become litigious based on the availability heuristic and not actual data.

STFU, noob (new window)


So farking what? Lawsuits have decreased some years, too. You show a single farking DATA POINT and try to justify your stupid little claim.

Your a idiot.
 
2009-01-30 09:17:36 AM
You're alive. STFU and be happy about that.
 
2009-01-30 09:17:57 AM
Arcanum: Didn't this plane have a bunch of failures before the crash?

A double engine failure is extremely rare, and it's not been proven yet that there wasn't more to this crash than geese. While the passengers should be grateful to have survived, and I think 5k + lost stuff + a year of upgrades is plenty, I do think the idea that they are horrible people for asking for more is a bit silly.

They did suffer a plane crash. If the airline wants to get publicity out of these people, then it's only fair to negotiate for it.


That did not suffer a plane crash. They suffered a early landing. Some of the people that came off of the plane said that they have had worse landings on a runway.
To the passengers. You are not dead and that is the fault of US air and their pilot. Maybe the rest of us should sue for not offing the greedy jerks on the plane.
 
2009-01-30 09:18:57 AM
The airline seems to have lost so much more then these two sandy vagina passengers. One is college student heading back from a trackmeet, like he had 5k worth of anything on the plane. The airline not only is paying cash and upgrades they also lost a plane. I know insurance will help but if insurance companies bone people over a few grand imagine millions.
 
2009-01-30 09:19:56 AM
uptonogood:

fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


do us all a favor and surrender your passport once you land in your new country. fark you.
 
2009-01-30 09:20:07 AM
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2009-01-30 09:21:11 AM
tonesskin:
Your a idiot.


If you're going to call someone an idiot...
 
2009-01-30 09:22:10 AM
Was the "God was watching over us" guy among those who were biatching?

/please say yes
//DNRTFA
 
2009-01-30 09:22:20 AM
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


Unless you are going into the depths of the Congo, or maybe Antarctica...dumb arse, the economic recession/craphole/void that we are in is effecting the entire world.

We are going to be sorry to see you go, I mean, there's a real shortage of foreigners who want to talk trash about the US.
 
2009-01-30 09:24:30 AM
Fark smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.

Fark these dysfunctional,
Insecure airline passengers.

Learn to swim.
 
2009-01-30 09:26:24 AM
z_gringo: Actually, A year isn't much.

For people that are flying all the time, they are elite status already and for the most part don't have to fly coach anyway.

For people that aren't already elite, they aren't flying but a few times a year if that.

I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.


I agree. A fixed number of upgrades (like 10) would be better for the fliers. Since I stopped flying for business, I have not flown, except internationally ... once ... in ten years.

/ten upgrades could also be used to upgrade others, like ones wife, kids or friends.
 
2009-01-30 09:27:31 AM
Throw in a goose every Christmas.
 
2009-01-30 09:28:14 AM
Gunderson: Fark smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.

Fark these dysfunctional,
Insecure airline passengers.

Learn to swim.


The point is that most of them won't probably want to fly within the next 12 months, or have the need to. In order to get these 'upgrades' they need to SPEND their own money.

/how about three flights and 10 upgrades?
 
2009-01-30 09:29:59 AM
tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how litigious our society has become.

It makes me stabby if I spend too much time thinking about how people assume our society has become litigious based on the availability heuristic and not actual data.

STFU, noob (new window)

So farking what? Lawsuits have decreased some years, too. You show a single farking DATA POINT and try to justify your stupid little claim.

Your a idiot.


I'm not having this argument with you. Neither of us is going to win the other one's opinion, and you've proven time and time again to be a troll anyway. Besides, I think you're in the minority of people who think that frivolous lawsuits are less frequent now than, say, 10-20 years ago.
 
2009-01-30 09:30:04 AM
sinanju: tonesskin:
Your a idiot.

If you're going to call someone an idiot...


HAHAHAHAHAHA! Your a idiot, two.

/pet peeve
 
2009-01-30 09:32:07 AM
Give them a few free tickets or upgrades that they can use whenever the heck they fly again. Want something more? Sue the geese.
 
2009-01-30 09:33:24 AM
ShillinTheVillain: Neither of us is going to win the other one's opinion, and you've proven time and time again to be a troll anyway. Besides, I think you're in the minority of people who think that frivolous lawsuits are less frequent now than, say, 10-20 years ago.

1) Facts aren't opinion.
2) I'm not trolling
3) Availability heuristic, etc.

You've now gone from "litigious" to "frivolous," so which did you mean?
 
2009-01-30 09:34:50 AM
sixpack: Anyone watch Mythbusters They did one on seat safety. One guy said they build the seats to break so everyone dies in the crash because it is cheaper to pay a dead family then an alive complaining one.

Bullshiat. No such quote in that show.

/amazing how people "remember" what they want to heat, ain't it?
 
2009-01-30 09:34:54 AM
OMG I was expecting this to happen. But inside, deep down I was really hoping that they would thank the crew, take the money for their luggage, thank their lucky stars they lived through the ordeal and go on with life. But I have been dissappointed.

While I hate the airlines as much as I hate any corporation in the US. This was in no way their fault, their employees did a wonderful job(they should be rewarded not the passengers) and they should not be buying off these passengers.
 
2009-01-30 09:36:24 AM
bighairyguy

I LOL'd.
 
2009-01-30 09:37:20 AM
joethorne.

Canadians may be the only group who feel they are entitled to tell other cultures how to act.
 
2009-01-30 09:37:26 AM
How about they get on with their lives? shiat happens, and it's not always the companies fault.

I flew to Toronto in Dec. with Air Canada. On the flight back, we're minutes away from touching ground. The captain comes on and tells us something is wrong with the runway, and we can't land, we have to turn around.

What happens when we get to the airport? EVERYONE except two of us (me and my buddy. And literally, everyone else, it was a smaller plane, it was obvious) start complaining to Air Canada's manager, demanding free accommodations until we can fly back. They wouldn't give it to us, and I was apparently the only guy who understood that it wasn't Air Canada's fault, it was the airport in an entirely different province.

Like I said, shiat happens. You can't expect a free ride (no pun intended) because something bad happened to you.
 
2009-01-30 09:38:09 AM
Maybe they're trying to offset the value of the checks they sent to the crew in gratitude.

My point: Those who performed the miracle = regular pay and pat on the back.

Those who did nothing but ride along = "Give me lots of money."
 
2009-01-30 09:38:58 AM
nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

Good idea. US Airways didn't NEED to do anything. They just want some free good publicity, I think. The 5 free upgrades is a good idea.
 
2009-01-30 09:39:30 AM
U.S. Airlines should give a copy of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand to every whining passenger on that plane. If you've read it, you know what I'm talking about.
 
2009-01-30 09:39:43 AM
www.planetizen.com

Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind.

/WTF?
 
2009-01-30 09:39:54 AM
tonesskin: ShillinTheVillain: Neither of us is going to win the other one's opinion, and you've proven time and time again to be a troll anyway. Besides, I think you're in the minority of people who think that frivolous lawsuits are less frequent now than, say, 10-20 years ago.

1) Facts aren't opinion.
2) I'm not trolling
3) Availability heuristic, etc.

You've now gone from "litigious" to "frivolous," so which did you mean?


1.) You provided no facts, just your own misguided opinion.
2.) Maybe, maybe not
3.) I'm not basing that on recollections. I'm basing that on a definite long-term upward trend in litigation in the U.S. Yes, it may decrease one year, but the overall trend is upward. Read up on malpractice insurance as one good example.

And I'm not sure what you don't understand about litigious or frivolous. Allow me to spell it out for you. We, as a society, are suing more often now than we did in the past, and for more silly reasons than we used to.

Got it now? Or are you just going to resort to calling me an idiot and really build up the foundation for your own well-supported argument?
 
2009-01-30 09:42:12 AM
it wasn't the airline's fault it crashed, why should they offer extended vouchers?

Whiny passengers that lived due to the amazing skill of the flight team need to STFU!
 
2009-01-30 09:43:41 AM
miracledirt: A flight of 150, and the Post found two passengers to quote. One of the two seemed reasonable. Two more negative quotes from non-passengers and they've invented a story.

Winna! The Weekly World News has more journalistic integrity than the NYPost. I half expect them to run 1890's type stories claiming that the Irish shouldn't be considered human beings.
 
2009-01-30 09:44:08 AM
the concept of suing here is laughable. What jury would actually agree with them?

certainly the majority of passengers do not feel they need MOAR compensation.
 
2009-01-30 09:45:53 AM
sorr: sixpack: Anyone watch Mythbusters They did one on seat safety. One guy said they build the seats to break so everyone dies in the crash because it is cheaper to pay a dead family then an alive complaining one.

Bullshiat. No such quote in that show.

/amazing how people "remember" what they want to heat, ain't it?


That was the whole point of the episode, to disprove that myth.

Check this out
 
2009-01-30 09:46:11 AM
how the conversation should've gone...


US Airways: FREE FIRST CLASS UPGRADES FOR A YEAR!

Passengers: Boo! We want it for a lifetime!!!

US Airways: F--- you. You ungrateful snots. You get nothing now.
 
2009-01-30 09:46:22 AM
There was a time when I was glad to hear these people survived.

Now not so much.
 
2009-01-30 09:46:25 AM
Maybe US Airways should give them each a free raft or something. You know, to remember the experience.
 
2009-01-30 09:47:45 AM
They act like they are the survivors of flight 815 or something. Throw in a smoke monster and the others...

Now you're talking free upgrades for life...
 
2009-01-30 09:49:13 AM
Although a year isn't much. This was not only not the airlines companies fault, but they did a great job in handling an impossible situation.

When you get on a plane, they say "in the event of a water landing...." that means that you know there is a chance of a water landing. People can sue, but I hope that the judges see that this isn't the airlines fault, it is just a crappy situation that everyone has to endure.
 
2009-01-30 09:49:51 AM
nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

A fixed number instead of a time based one would have been a better choice, and i'm certain the airline wishes they had doen that now.
 
2009-01-30 09:50:40 AM
To be fair, U.S. Airways charging each of them for a goose dinner WAS going a bit far...
 
2009-01-30 09:53:01 AM
If it was me I would have called them out on it. Not because I'd want more upgrades, but because it's pretty transparently for the publicity for the airline.

Come out saying "You actually think I'll be flying anywhere in the next year? They can keep their empty guesture. I'm happy to be alive."

Then people will sympathize a little more. They come off as greedy here. Don't lump all the passengers together though, I'm sure many/most of them are normal, rational people who are happy to be okay.
 
2009-01-30 09:53:21 AM
ShillinTheVillain: 1.) You provided no facts, just your own misguided opinion.

I never said it was my opinion. You did.

2.) Maybe, maybe not

Okay.

3.) I'm not basing that on recollections. I'm basing that on a definite long-term upward trend in litigation in the U.S. Yes, it may decrease one year, but the overall trend is upward. Read up on malpractice insurance as one good example.

Where is the trend? The win rate has certainly remained stable, and the rate of lawsuits being filed adjusted for population is stable. The majority of litigation in the United States is between two companies, not individuals.

Malpractice insurance has zero to do with litigation. It has to do with fear of litigation and insurance companies who settle because they have nothing to fear (they just pass the costs onto the doctors). The rate of winning malpractice suits is about 35%; the insurance companies should fight.

And I'm not sure what you don't understand about litigious or frivolous.

First you said more litigious, then you said more frivolous. They are two totally different things and totally different data points. For the latter, you can find THOUSANDS of seemingly frivolous cases starting in the 18th century, especially when the media reports them. The McDonalds coffee case, for instance, is one of the most un-frivolous cases out there yet people always bring it up as frivolous.

Allow me to spell it out for you. We, as a society, are suing more often now than we did in the past, and for more silly reasons than we used to.

You saying that doesn't make it true. Again, I think the "silly reasons" is entirely subjective (unless quantified by cases dismissed for being frivolous).

Got it now? Or are you just going to resort to calling me an idiot and really build up the foundation for your own well-supported argument?

Uh, you made the initial argument without support. I just think it's a silly farking argument. You are taking something with such a low base rate and trying to pretend like it's some kind of epidemic. It isn't.
 
2009-01-30 09:55:03 AM
sinanju: tonesskin:
Your a idiot.

If you're going to call someone an idiot...


meme fail...
 
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